Okay /o/, I've finally cracked, I cannot find anything in my price range with the features I want unless its an EV because of the Fed/State tax credits (4k from fed, 3k from state). What am I in for if I buy something like a Nissan Leaf? How bad is it and what kind of shit should I expect to deal with using it as a daily commuter to work and back?
>>28195307I never see them broke down on the road if that helps. But it has the typical battery degradation thing like all EVs do. Are you saying you have to pay an additional 7k just to register your car?Also why didn't weegee trim and shape his big fucking eyebrows differently?
>>28195311Nah, I'm saying that I get 7k in rebates IF I buy the leaf instead of a ICE, I can get a 2018 leaf for the same cost to myself as buying a used 2007 accord or camry in my area
>>28195313If it is more reliable, cost the same, and you get a rebate I'd say so with the leaf. But you should go with that ever is most reliable if that's your concern.Also consider this: If you get the leaf, people will think you're gay.
>>28195324I've already gotten told that I'm gay for considering buying a Corolla, so I'm gay no matter what I go with at this price point
>>28195307I bought a 2018 Honda Clarity, over 88k miles i have averaged 96 mpg combined gas/electric. I just plug it in to a wall outlet and don't worry about it only problem has been the front wheel bearings that failed at 66k and the surprise EV tab tax at $970.00 per year. so check your local required EV taxes first. Overall it's been great.
>kind of shit should I expect to deal with using it as a daily commuter to work and backadvertised range assumes you aren't using climate controlalso, if you plan to charge it on stations exclusively becasue you don't have charging station at your home/garage it'll be more expensive than gasbatteries are usually guaranteed for 8-10years (up to 100k miles), and regenerating them isn't really an option, wile replacing it might cost 1/3 of a new vehicle. There is reason why used ev's are so cheap
>>28195364Welcome to/o/.
>>28195307The most important thing is you have a level 2 charger at home, or there's a nearby place with free level 2 charging where you can leave it overnight. Level 1 charging is too slow, and charging every day on paid chargers is both expensive and a huge time waste.
>>28195414Level 1 charging isn't too slow in many circumstances.
>>28195414Really depends on his driving habits. If you drive 40 miles per day, you can fully recharge overnight from a standard 120v 15A outlet. Also, some shopping centers have charging, so you can just keep it full while you get groceries and whatever.
>>28195307should be good as city car if you have charger at home desu. battery degradation, weather etc wont too much pain in arse then. without charger idk, at least if u buy it get charger later
>>28195311>Also why didn't weegee trim and shape his big fucking eyebrows differently?Because that's not Weegee in the picture. That's shaved Jake Gyllenhaal.
>>28195307Cheapest you can get Tesla. Prob ~$15k or so if you buy used Teslas and with few tax credits. Nissan Leaf is too weak. Only has like ~50-60 miles. What in means in practice is that its a golf cart and cant move from city to city. I think there's also BMW i3 thats got PHEV which runs on decent electic motor + battery but use smaller gas engine/tank for longer range. Thats' probably your most useful bet if you want under $10K "EV". Just charge the i3 at night and you're good to go.
>>28195414>>28195577>>28195586Level 1 is 120v socket.Level 2 is 240v socket.Most homes have a 240v socket or two(ie washer dryer). Just buy a splitter if you use them and split one to EV charging. You only use washer/dryer once every week or two for an hour any way. So its a non factor.
>>28195311>Typical battery degradationEV batteries degrade by 1.8% in the first few years until they reach 10% and stay that way for ever. If your leafs battery fails prematurely, you can get the battery swapped for a few grand or individual failed cells for cheap, many shops do this now. I wouldn't worry about reliability of the leaf, probably better than rube goldbergs.One thing about the leaf is there's no thermal management of the battery, so if it's below freezing you may not be able to run your car at all because lithium batteries prevent discharging below 20F.Leafs range also sucks, and if you're poor and can't charge at home, the public charging is shit, they use the old connector style that's being phased out and it's slow charging.Sauce: https://www.motortrend.com/features/ev-battery-lifespan-degradation-replacement-cost-study/
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>>28195307Absolutely do not buy any of those first-gen compliance EVs if it's your only car. Or unless you legitimately will never need to drive more than 50 miles and have a charger at home. Leaf, eGolf, Mini, early Kona, 500e, i3, etc. Bolt is borderline. They're cheap for a reason - cannot really fast charge and don't have enough range. They are also all out of warranty and in that late 2010's era where manufacturers were still getting to grips with touchscreens and similar tech. Leases on new EVs are still pretty cheap, or just get a 40+ mpg civic/corolla hybrid.
>>28198427The problem is that a 40mpg Civic/Corolla that isn't a R-Title or already at 250k miles is 15k or more.
