Is it over before it even started with this kind of pricing?
>>28197574Just at that pricing? No.At that pricing with things like self-driving, lighting themes, and the Sony music library not being lifetime access for the first owner? Yes.
>Customizable Theme>included in 3- year Complimentary SubscriptionYou get your money's worth tho.
All of China's choices outcompete this hunk of junk. Japan will fall.Honda is an embarrassment.https://theevreport.com/zeekr-showcases-innovations-at-ces-2025
The price is truly crazy. Even if that is the price of the highest trim with the subscription to everything built in, it's still crazy. A Model S with lifetime FSD and 3 years of premium connectivity is barely over 90k. With more range and hp.
>>28197581>>28197626weebs will buy it. i think it has its place.
>>28197574Wow, they did it. Now I don't want to cop afeela.
>>28197574afagla lol
>>28197574>3 year complementary subscription *subject to change
>>28197574Huh? I missed this during the nvidia conference yesterday.
>why is no one buying our 100k EVs?
>>28197574i afeela sad-a, mamma mia
>>28197574afeela deez nuts
>subscriptionsKeep murdering CEOs, they haven't learned yet
>>28198008It depends. Cars these days do way more shit that required constant upkeep, updates, data transfers, etc. Subscriptions for things like heated seats and remote start are one thing. But it takes an entire team of people to develop and maintain something like self driving. That costs money. Streaming podcasts, music, live traffic updates, that requires data. Having subscriptions for stuff like that is kind of a different story. "Customizable theme" sounds like a pretty retarded thing to lock behind a paywall though.
>>28198016>music, live traffic updates, that requires dataWe've had that since cars came with analog AM radios.
>>28198039Yeah that's basically the same thing. Not different at all. And of course we all know AM radio is completely free and the station and its employees don't require any funding or wages.
>>28198171>AM radio is completely free and the station and its employees don't require any funding or wages.To the individual listening, it only cost them the radio. There were no subscriptions back then except to magazines and newspapers. Maybe milk. Not sure how that last one worked.
>>28198260>To the individual listening, it only cost them the radio.What were those things called that radio stations and television stations would play in between songs/segments/shows/etc where a company would tell you to go buy their product? It's on the tip of my tongue... Ed? Id? Something like that. Maybe cars should have that instead. You don't have to pay for live traffic updates, instead every time you want to use the navigation, you have to watch 60 seconds of corporate sponsored marketing materials. That way, you, as an individual, don't have to pay anything! That sounds much preferable. I would love to save 10 bucks a month and just watch a few minutes of commercials every time I get in my car.
>>28197626>it's unbelieveable. this mercedes base model costs more than a fully loaded chrysler! they will never sell a single car at that price!
>>28198306>every time you want to use the navigation, you have to watch 60 seconds of corporate sponsored marketing materialsNo, I don't. They're already collecting my data for using their service. I am the product and so are you.>I would love to save 10 bucks a month and just watch a few minutes of commercials every time I get in my car.See above. Don't let them double charge you.
>>28198260radio stations make money via ads and song requests
>>28198318your cope sir
>>28198346>has to race in the streets with the takeover bipoc spics and nogs because his silly little hobby is being banned from racetrackskek
>>28198346>just look at the value proposition. SIX LITER HEMI V8 for the price of a 3 liter v6 in a merc!
>>28197574>>28197626They are probably trying to come close to break even from the gate. Probably won't work. Rivian has made it from losing $150k per sale to only using a few thousands supposedly with a somewhat decent value, Lucid still loses hundreds of thousands per sale and they still have almost no demand, they basically cannot sell a $500k car for $80k. Tough market to break into unless you have infinite money behind you or can instant scale in China, neither of those is true for Sony.
>>28197574A hunk of shit that also looks like it fell out of a hobo's ass? It wouldn't sell well at 40k.
>>28198349>shock hazardsyeah no they just don't like their ICE buddies getting btfo every night kek
>>28198318>>28198364it can play fortnite and you watch spiderman on the bumper obviously it's worth 100k
>>28198171>>28198306Its not our problem how they pay for it. Complaining and boycotting shitty price gouging subscription fees is what keeps things cheap and honest. You are an absolute retard for carrying their water for them, and then thinking this is some sort of enlightened position
>>28198772It is what it is. You pay a subscription for TV. You pay a subscription for your phone plan. You pay a subscription g for Internet. You pay a subscription for online gaming. Connecting a thing to other things and transferring information between things costs money. And the ones that don't charge you directly charge advertisers. So there's only 3 options Not having the thing at all Paying for the thing Watching an ad every 3 minutes to use the thing >Well I don't even want the thing Then don't pay the subscription and you won't get it. Problem solved.
>>28197574Afeela my balls
>>28197574>$100,000 for an EV sedan with worse mileage than a shitbox teslayeah, I’d say it’s over
it's bad but honestly the honda and sony branding alone makes me want iti guess that's poorfag mindset for ya but they're quality brands
