I just came back from the mechanic who was overwhelmingly based. He spoke to me about how gay and retarded modern vehicles are with their proprietary computers. As I was waiting for my truck to finish up, I looked up some open source software and hardware online. Does anyone here have a tl;dr on the topics? I'd love to be able to work on my truck's computer by myself. Buddy also said theres a lawsuit against companies like Ford who are keeping their programs with the dealer mechanics. It's like what John Deere was doing to the farmers.https://github.com/rusefi/rusefi/wiki/Hardwarehttps://www.shop.rusefi.com/shop/p/spring-blade-cyy7nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJcvcgMqtvghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXnzy6tZQSQ
>>28199403And who and how will guarantee no traffic accidents due to bugs in open source software ?
>>28199425There are no guarantees for mechanical or software failures. I think a good way to address your question is to have a kill switch on the dash if the car/truck goes rogue.
>>28199403>computers are gay>links a video about some retard putting a computer ignition/efi box onto a falconhttps://youtu.be/Zd9WSpwDNAQ?si=k1J4fXXjzTWgKbqs&t=1408a falcon of all fucking things is a car that shouldn't be upgraded as it's perfect as is.
>>28199435I don't fucking know about this shit. I'd rather have a 1980s truck that was built in 2025. Same design, same everything, just new material. Can I rip out the computers from my vehicle and somehow make it run like the old trucks?
>>28199403Idk, carburetors are pretty damn "open source"If that's not good enough look up the "carburetor cheat" thingies, makes tuning them way better and apparently they can make slight automatic adjustments for altitude n shitIf you have anything with, say, a SBC in it, you can, at any time, rip off the EFI + transistor ignition and go back to carb + pointsYou can even go forward in time with em, say 80's TPI plus a tune
>>28199437That's fucking sick. The old guy mechanic didn't tell me this.Alright. I have a 2015 F-150. Ballpark the cost of de-fagging it and could a regular shop do this job, or do I need to find a schizo shop?Better yet, if you know of somewhere I can read about this, I'll read instead of asking you to type.I do also think computers are cool, but they need to be 'fixed.' I put GrapheneOS on my phone, I run Arch Linux on my desktop, server, and laptop. In a vehicle, though, computers should fuck off.Thank you for taking your time to chat shit
>>28199436I wonder if restorations will become big in the future, with people just buying restored cars foreverAs such an industry would grow, getting things like replacement bodies, frames, engines etc would become cheaper and cheaper. You can already get remanned metal, interior panels, and powerful carbed SBCs for a fucking bargain for classic muscle cars even with the boomer/USAmade taxEventually a restored car would be as cheap as a regular new car, and then the auto industry would have to die and start over unless drastic changes were madeDon't know if we can get the safetyfag norm norms to drive 70's cars en masse though
>>28199453A childhood friend of mine's father rebuilt a classic car by getting raw sheets of metal and bending them in his shop. It took him basically 10 years of building the car from scratch. I admired him because he wasn't even a mechanic.>safetyfagAre you talking about crumple zones and seatbelts instead of lap belts? That's probably easy to fix.I like your ideas though. If we can remove salt from the roads and replace it with sand, we are definitely moving in the right direction.
>>28199441>2015No can doThe engine is designed from the ground up for new fuel and ignition systemsMaybe you could carb it with excessive nigger-rigging much to the chagrin of the diagnostic computers but the e-ignition is here to stayE-ignition ain't bad but points are super simple and will always be avaliable in the case of mass parts shortagesYou want something with the old motor platforms m8
>>28199461Fuck. Okay. This is going to take a lot of time to look into. Do you have any favourites for make/model to work on? The old guy mechanic said to get an old toyota pickup. They look simple and attractive, but I do also like the comforts of the '15 Ford pickup. I want my ownership philosophy to be "fix it," instead of "replace it." I've really grown to hate consumer culture. But, this needless complexity that the Industry is doing drives me insane. It makes me want to become Amish or something.
>>28199458>Are you talking about crumple zones and seatbeltsMostly the 40^12 airbags plastered everywhere, the gorillions of computer assist systems, parking sensors on every angle, 2 different backup cameras, and yes, the crumple zones that may save your life at 80 but mostly just total-plus-half the car at 10Don't forget the pedestrian safety systems, because of course we have to enable retards' tendencies to walk in front of large moving vehicles whilst on their phonesI'd honestly consider seatbelts a comfort item, it's nice to stay in place while turning/braking, especially as a passenger
>>28199475Right, right. I agree.
>>28199469Toyota will be a bajillion dollars or rusted to shit possibly both, either way your HP will be poor and your MPG bad, other than that, yes, it'll survive a nuke...Otherwise, GMs, especially chevies, are a popular choice due to part interchangeability>If you want it to last forever go 70's and early 80'sCars that started production around ~1982+ started getting the shitty walmart plastic we all know and love today, this is why I consider 90's vehicles very overrated despite their performance and engineering benefits over malaise era vehiclesThe old plastic is mostly indestructible but takes UV really poorly so I'd coat it in some kind of anti-UV clearcoay
>>28199487I've had shitty experiences with GM/Chev. On a chev malibu you need to disassemble the entire front bumper to change the headlights for example. Granted, they were nu-cars, but yeah. I never realized how grim the car market was. I thought most of it was puritan schizo babble. The truck I learned on when I was 13 for driving was solid and comfy. Something like a early 2000s 1500. I live in a high salt area so I actually like the ford aluminimum body. Everyone thinks my truck is brand new because there's no visible rust, and I believe that old aluminum is stronger than rusted steel.
>>28199403In order for you to have "open source" software, you have to have "open source" ECU like megasquirt. Given the way ECU's are programmed and hard coded vs that of conventional computers, you almost always have to have a computer or programmed that's sourced from the manufacturer itself, there's almost no way around this.
>>28199496They're straight up forcing subscriptions upon us. This is most unholy.
>>281994753 point seatbelts at a minimum imo, definitely a safety item. stops your face smashing into the wheel if some retard crashes into you
>>28199494If you want a more "modern" vehicle (not malaise era) I'd go for a GMT 800The 400 is notorious for awful plastics and rustYes, the 800 doesn't have the 'ol SBC, but it has an iron block LS-platform engine and those will be around forever too thanks to muscleboomers...The GMT900 is recession era and has CANBUSThe early CANBUS eliminates the rats nest of wires that are 80s-90s vehicles but if you run out of platform-specific parts or majorly fuck something up you're fucked kekAnd yes, recession era, they've got some really stupid and shitty problems like the door handles and window switches that shouldn't be problems
Anons, I love it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Qo-i8d5Vw
>>28199561very first thing I'd do with that thing is serpentine swap it and put a 650 holley, those 2100s fucking suck.
>>28199576You'd do that even if you wanted to daily drive this?
The tendency to make every repair cost $2000+ and for you to be unable to modify things due to increasingly draconian software/hardware requirements makes me generally unwilling to buy any vehicle, of any type, past 2012. When BMW started charging people a monthly fee to heat their own fucking seats, the "smart" car era jumped the shark.
>>28199579getting rid of the 2barrel and the sqealing vbelt would improve it's streetability.
>>28199582also get the fuck rid of that smog pump
>>28199582If I ever become rich, I will daily drive something like that and repair it to perfection. Sounds good though. Thanks. I'm taking notes on all of this.
>>28199453Yes.I've been saying this for a decade.>Cuba 2.0
>>28199581>every repair cost $2000+Thanks to nusensors, women (fender bender masters) now cost insurance companies more than men do
>>28199595I don't feel like trading in my 2011 camry daily because anything I get as a grocery-getter is going to be hyper expensive easily breakable trash with no wrenchability. Maybe I just keep this thing alive forever
>>28199600>TPMS battery dies>modern car computer reads that as a critical engine failure and the "smart" car refuses to start (for your safety, of course)>"Sorry, Dave. But I cannot let you drive this vehicle. You must have this vehicle towed to an authorized dealer for repairs. That will be $3000 + tip :^) "It's coming.
>>28199601I want to do this with my f150. I'll drive it into the ground if I can. I won't be paying thousands of dollars for a new computer in it though -- whatever kind of **U it is.>>28199610A family member of mine has a brand new Dodge 1500 and it will force you to a grinding hault when you're backing up if you're on a hill. It "detects collision." I was in the rig when the truck was backing up and I almost shit myself when I felt it stopping for the first time.
>>28199403OBD computers are generic. By law, almost all of the sensors must comply to that standard, but yes, some of the heavier "brand specific" shit is missing from that list. Yes, Ford is fucking famous for that. They even had a special tester for their in-car network, I think it was called the "Stargen" tester.
>>28199403If this thread stays up long enough you might summon that guy who's been reverse engineering ford ECUs to V6 swap his focus.RusEFI is neat, lots of features for cheap and you can even roll your own rusefi based ECU using premade modules
>>28199453If there were ever a situation where more than a handful of people tried to take advantage of grandfathered cars becoming economical gubmint would kill it.
>>28199403>I'd love to be able to work on my truck's computer by myself.>>28199441>I put GrapheneOS on my phone, I run Arch Linux on my desktop, server, and laptop.What you want is an OBD2 gauge cluster so you can tell normies about how you hacked your car while you point to the injection rail pressure. You don't even know what you'd do with the ECM apart from install neofetch so you can take screenshots for r*ddit>>28199469>The old guy mechanic said to get an old toyota pickup. They look simple and attractive, but I do also like the comforts of the '15 Ford pickup.You've made your choice.
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>>28199403Learn Arduino and write your own stuff
>>28199403https://www.openmotors.co/evplatform/>top speed 80 mi/h>range 75 mi
>>28200259Free (libre) downloadable plans
>>28200259>order with minimal batteries>install 700cc fridge engine
>>28199403What about when 3rd part software like FORscan becomes unavailable due to Russian bank denial by paypal and Google.
>>28199403you can literally build a megasquirt, just buy a manual flood vehicle and strip it, get the water out of the drivetrain and run whatever it has off megasquirt, boom done open source vehicle. some states its illegal to swap an earlier engine into a vehicle which may be desirable. you can pretty much build a tri5 chevy, s10, or camaro out of a catalogue from scratch. or just buy an existing one and slap a carburetor on it
>>28200259>Huh this looks neat, I could plop on an old euro shitbox body on the frame and->22 fucking grandYeah naaah, fuhgeddaboudit
