>Honey why do you hate eletric cars so much?>Look at how much we can save if we get one!
Women don't exist
>>28201409$7500 tax rebates for EVs sure do>1.8 second 0-60s out of the conversation
>>28201412>lets sell our fully paid for ICE vehicle that costs nothing to fuel and run and get a $60k EV so we don't have to buy gas anymore!
>>28201417You save that on gas mere months in.
>>28201428You're burning through $50k+ worth of fuel a year?
>>28201428>>28201412>>28201404tesla salesman gtfo
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>>28201404https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/how-often-do-tesla-batteries-need-to-be-replaced>Climate too hot or too cold?Battery life gets shortened.>Charger overheats the battery?Battery life gets shortened.>Battery health after 5 years?Your range gets halved.>Need new battery, how much will it cost?Between $13,000-$20,000 USD.>Where does my electricity come from?Coal.
>i need to buy a 40k chink thermite bomb to save 300 dollars a year on gasbrown hands shilling for xingpinglingdings shitcar
>>28201428t. drives a '71 eldorado
>>28201428And lose it all when it gets totaled from a fender bender because it put a 2mm dent into the battery pack rendering it a ticking time bomb and a battery replacement costs 70% of the msrp and isn't worth it so insurance only pays you out 20% of what you paid because it lost 80% of it's value in the 4 years you had it and you have to go out and buy another one for an even more inflated price than before. Definitely worth the $1500 you saved on gas per year.
>>28201448>Battery health after 5 years?>Your range gets halved.not even close to being truebatteries in test beds with 1500 charge cycles are still 75%
>>28201464Do cars get driven indoors private pyle?
>>28201464>Looks at chart.>See it is in distance and not time.
>>28201464Hmm funny how there are many Tesla forum posts with people experiencing over 20% degradation after 100k miles. It's also fucking hilarious how you think battery degradation follows a linear line like that.
>>28201487I don't "think" it does. Do you not understand how charts are made? There's also people experiencing as little as 9% degradation over 10 years so it's almost as if anecdotal evidence is useless.
I spend about 300 maplebucks a month on gas. Equivalent cost to charge an electric car would be about 50 dollars. So, I'd be saving $250 a month. A model 3 costs about 55k. So, is have to drive it for over 18 years to make up the cost of getting a new car over my paid off Panther body. No thanks
>>28201555You can't extrapolate things like battery degradation. Especially when you're basing it off the same anectodical evidence I apparently can't use.
>>28201464>200k miles>Assuming best case (for your graph) 250 miles per charge>800 chargesSo what you're saying is BEST CASE SCENARIO you lose close to 1% per 40 charges, or about 1% per 10k miles, AT BEST, under controlled (ie unrealistic) and highly biased testing parameters. >Protip: that's not very goodAlso shoutouts to the y axis being uneven to try and make the drop look smaller than it is, that's how you know they're totally not misleading and lying to you.
>>28201464If I empty and fill my gas tank ten thousand times it still will hold 16 gallons
>>28201404I don't hate electric cars, I just hate teslas.
>>28201560Why do you think it's "extrapolation"? Do you literally not know how a graph is made?
>>28201574I'm not saying that at all. I can only present the data to you. Whatever way you choose to misinterpret it is all on you.
>>28201733Did anyone ever say it wouldn't?
>>28201404I heard they are plentiful in California.Wonder how do people manage to charge them now lmao
look how much more we can save by not buying shit we don't really need
>>28201404Because I have to spend a fuck ton if it breaks because its not user-servicable, but I can fix a gas car.
>>28201428hahahahahaha great bait have a (((You)))
Funny how >>>/o/ has had thousands of anti-EV threads from oil shills, a billions of dollars poured into social media, only for EVs to now make up a quarter of the world's car sales after being under 1% several years ago. I guess the technology speaks for itself, and shilling can't beat the science. In fact, this is one of their many failures. Solar and Wind power , grid battery storage, and Global Warming science have all been unseccessfully attacked by oil shills. And yet, here we are. A majority of the globe now accepts global warming as fact, solar and wind and batteries are going to eliminate fossil fuel usage from grids within a couple decades, and EVs will be 100% of car sales in 20 years.
>>28201943You will never be a woman
>let's save money by buying a 50k car that has no resale value
>>28202255>Muh resale valueFucking hell
Are insurance costs still nightmare level expensive for electrics?
>>28202254Thanks for confirming my gender! Didn't realize there were woke posters on here.
>>28202362Tesla insurance was cheaper than for my Honda 2 years ago when I switched.
>>28202328you arent buying a new car because you love it, you do it to shut your bitch wife up, so yes; resale value matters.whereas your race car which the resale value actually matters doesn't even matter ever, it isn't the same, uncomparable.
>>28202328Cope, Gasoline cars are sometimes selling for many times more their MSRP, no such thing has ever happened with gay Teslas
>>28202462EV troons are the only ones who gender dysphoria
>>28202488>vehicles can have genders and be transDamn bro is beyond woke. He/She/Xir is giga woke.
Lmao. My wife brow beats me for not having a carbed truck instead of the 90's EFI I found.
>>28202468>you do it to shut your bitch wife up4chan is not your personal blog, no one asked you, stupid boomer.
>>28202468Your wife cheats on you and will divorcerape you.
>>28202468>you do it to shut your bitch wife upHave you ever considered that marrying is not that good idea or you foolishly and naively choosen a wrong person?
>>28202496https://youtube.com/@transportevolved?si=_EFVECIcuqVUNlbeGo back to your safespace, EV tranny.
>>28201428Worst case it costs me $200 a month to fuel my 20 year old shitbox.
>>28201487There are way, WAY more with less battery loss.Also you don’t know what linear means and it’s funny.
>>28201404bitch, tell me how i'm saving money by selling my 1.5k shitbox and getting 80k rc-car that loses half of its value the moment i sign the papers
>>28202698Yawn, come up with some fresh material, rube goldberg machine cuck.
>>28202730On the left you have the wiring diagram of a gasoline car, on the right you have just one of the many wiring diagrams of a Teslawhy are Rube Kikeberg EV appliances so complicated?
>>28202739So that's why drones are gas powered...wait...
>>28202739EVs are way simpler but the most valuable and dangerous component by far comes from China. That alone is a reason to avoid it. Gas is dangerous, but we've had a long time to address the problems that come with it.
It’s sad that all of the people who supposedly love turning wrenches devolve into consumer faggots when EV’s are mentioned. I’m much more interested in how they work rather than how much they cost or range issue or fires or whatever other boomer-tier reasons you faggits have for dismissing them. Nothing has opened my eyes to the “you’re not immune to propaganda” meme like the EV question.
>>28202841I am not buying an EV, troon
>>28201464Normal cars don't lose 25% of power at 200k miles.
>>28202852>gets called a consumer faggit>continues to think in terms of what he will or will not consumePottery. Keep proving me right, retard.
>>28201404this is a shit test, you fail if you get the faggot car
>>28202868stillnot buying ittranny
>>28201404bitch
>>28202864So? Neither does a bicycle.
>>28203422>poorcyclego back>>>/n/
Have you ever seen how much money women spend on clothes, shoes, makeup, purses, etc. only for them to use them a couple times?What's there to save money for? A new couch? Some landscaping? A fine cutlery set? A $1000 phone every year?
You earn your own money. Buy and drive what you want, I will stick to my gasoline powered UDM.
>>28203710Women believe that a man's money belongs to her. It's not about saving money for the family as a nest egg, it's about ensuring she can keep spending it on the stuff she wants.
my wifejack doesn't like EVs. The only thing I had to talk her out of was domestic, we got a CX-9 for like 1/3rd the price of a yukon and she loves it.
>>28201428Last time I did the math, it would take closer to 7 years and a lot of mileage. You can save far more by just not driving every day.
>dorks constantly arguing about irrelevant things like gas prices, emissions, the environment>chads simply enjoying having a comfy affordable 10 second car
>>28204150>10 second carFor a couple of pulls.
>>28204234Lol a miata (5.7s) is faster after the second pull. They've maybe mitigated this by now, but it's funny that a miata can out-accelerate a model S perf.
>>28204234Good thing I'm not doing consecutive quarter mile runs>>28204241They did in 2021. I don't know exactly what they changed but you can run quarter miles in a Plaid until the battery dies and the slowest it will go is 9.9 @ 20% soc.
>>28204283Yeah you can't, after all your silly little hobby is being banned from racetracks
>>28204294lmao he actually started editing the article so you can't see it's in australia. he got so fed up with getting called out on only posting about the same two tracks in australia that he's censoring out the subheader that says where the strip is
>>28204301>One in west virginiaIt does look like he did that, and I think it's funny as it's obvious bait.Idk about y'all but I just hit the strips with lots of red lights and launch then slow down to get the next light and repeat. I can do launches all day.
>>28201404>Honey why do you hate eletric cars so much?As long as the ICE car is not a lemon, the electric car costs more on total operational costs when insurance and our household entire electric bill TIER pricing is included. By charging the electric car on our household electricity, the power company moves our entire bill up into another higher cost tier due to our much greater monthly use of electricity.***Dear, you have a habit of crunching up a car every three years. We don't dare get a Tesla due to its high bodywork repair cost.Honey, EV get a rebate.Dear, that is for non-Tesla cars because the current govt hates Elon.Honey, I can save time not going to gas stations. Just plug it into the AC socket.Dear, to recharge an EV we have to install a new level 2 charging station for $1,900. The station needs a new 240vac electric service and that costs between $2400 to $3100. The city permit in San Diego is $150 and inspection is another $150.Honey, I can't wait to supercharge my new Tesla!Dear, the above costs are for a non-supercharger. A supercharger requires the power company to run a new line to the main service box, so that is more money.***Note 1:The example above is very significant in some parts of the USA where the daily kilowatt hour costs 24 cents per kilowatt hour and is as high as 40 cents at peak hour pricing for Tier 3 during the summer A/C peak season and the winter electric heating peak season.
>>28201404>Look at how much we can save if we get one!What is the cost of an EV road trip when driving across part of the USA to a destination 600 miles away? Some recharging stations have free charging up to a certain point (thanx to the taxpayers) as seen in the video below.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13irFZKelJw
>>28201404i drove this geo metro 15,557 miles this year, at a cost of $1088.90. That saves $933 over the previous driven car, a 2001 buick park avenue. That saves $2178 over driving my truck. I still drove my truck, a 1996 F150, 11,000 miles this year, there remains the possibility of saving an additional $1540 over the unnecessary usage of that vehicle, bringing us to a grand total of only $3718 possible annual savings, between a car that gets 50-55mpg, and a car that gets 12-17mpg. There is definitively no possible way to spend $30,000 on a brand new tesla, and save money on fuel in the vehicles entire lifetime. Shut up woman.
>>28202468>you arent buying a new car because you love it, you do it to shut your bitch wife upSomeone this pathetic has no right to give any attitude on this board. Shut the fuck up lapdog.
>>28204058Eggshit cuck car.
>>28201404
>>28201404"I've told you before not to call me Honey, refer to me by my official title of 'Sir Cockthrust Vag Spltittington' ".
>>28201431Are you not a long haul trucker who never goes more than 50 miles between stops?
>>28201464Now do it with most of the shit turned on, in winter.
>>28205998Is that Eric Andre?
>>28206052Do you think battery health and range mean the same thing?
>>28204554>There is definitively no possible way to spend $30,000 on a brand new tesla, and save money on fuel in the vehicles entire lifetime.That's why the federal government was eying a change to mandate electric cars and get rid of ICE for consumer use for new car manufacturing. The problem with inflation during the first term put an end to the next step, so you're lucky Kamala didn't win. Ironically, Elon isn't in favor of banning ICE or mandating that only EV be sold in the USA by 2030.
>>28201404>if we spend this enormous sum of money on a new thing we'll be saving money!Yep she's a woman, this is why you should never listen to them.
>>28201404I like electric cars. I just don't like every single production model that's available for sale right now.
>>28201404>eletricfucking shit this makes me mad
ev shilling chinkbug /n/iggers tongue my anus
>>28201943i dont see anyone here that outright denies global warming or whatever, it's more that like many things in life, it's not as big a deal as we're constantly told it is and if we ask questions we're naughty little kids and should cease that sort of thing right away.
>>28206879>ask question about global warming>get told scientific answer>"you fucking tranny kike globalist! I hope you die!"Stop pretending you aren't a child
>>28206937>scientific answerTell me, scientifically, what portion of climate change is manmade and what portion of it is natural?
>>28206959"We won't know until we eliminate all human impact on the environment."
>>28207007based commies
>>28201557>I spend about 300 maplebucks a month on gas. Equivalent cost to charge an electric car would be about 50 dollars. So, I'd be saving $250 a month. A model 3 costs about 55k. So, is have to drive it for over 18 years to make up the cost of getting a new car over my paid off Panther body. No thanksPretty much. EVs are a very hard sell on TCO. People buy them because they either want them or it was already planned as a replacement for a dying beater car.I could buy a cargo van with a dinosaur V8 and it'd take me years of driving to match the Tesla cost-wise.The only way it'd make sense is if energy got insanely expensive, but if that happened, we wouldn't be driving anymore.
Electric cars all look gay so I won't buy one
>>28201412>$7500 tax rebatesAlmost everyone is not eligible due to income over limit.
>>28201404Honestly the electric drivetrain is the least off-putting thing about most EVs, it's the everything else that puts me off - interiors, design, weight, subscription bullshit, gimmicky bloat, OTHER EV DRIVERS, etc.
>>28206937lol the irony
>>28206959Well since there would be no climate change without human activity, 100%.
>>28207209Oh did the climate just stay the same before humans then?
>>28207212Yeah, there's no point in history where the climate has changed this rapidly. Except cataclysmic extinction events like asteroid impacts.
>>28207218So what portion of the rapid change is natural and what portion is manmade?
>>28207226Well, 0.01°C per century for average change, vs 0.1°C per decade for the past few decades is about 100 times more. So roughly 99% is manmade.
>>28207230That wasn't very scientific anon
>>28207232You're right, scientists probably would give it a higher percentage to humans due to the acceleration of climate change and not simply counting temperature, but also weather effects.
>>28207237Scientists would use actual science, what you've shown is not science, that you cannot answer such a simple fundamental question shows how flawed climate "science" is.
>>28207245What question did you ask? All my answers match up with what scientists have figured out decades ago and more modern measurements confirm.
>>28207257What portion of Climate Change™ is manmade and what portion is natural?Scientific answers only please.
>>28207263From these sources, there is no cause as being natural. All the causes are man made. I guess you were right, my responses weren't accurate.https://www.epa.gov/climatechange-science/causes-climate-changehttps://climate.ec.europa.eu/climate-change/causes-climate-change_enhttps://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/causes/
>>28207266>akshually the climate was supposed to stay exactly the sameThis is why we don't take you retards seriously - you can't admit you don't know what you don't know.
>>28201557>keep old used carvs>buy a new EVIs this how EV deniers think? Obviously keeping your old car is always cheaper, but when considering a new car, an EV makes the most sense economically.
>>28207270Yeah, that's kinda how it's supposed to work naturally. The climate remains the same.
>>28207271Please give a QRD on how a leased $30k ICE car is cheaper to run over 4 years than a leased $60k EV.
>>28207281That's actually not how it works lmao
>>28207282Are you pretending that $30k EVs don’t exist?
>>28207283It litterally does. The climate's temperature fluctuates about 0.01°C per century.
>>28207284There isn't a single sub $30k EV on autotrader. It's only Leaf's which are not acceptable as a daily driver nor comparable to a $30k ICE vehicle.
>>28207285How much was it supposed to fluctuate this last century?
>>282073020.01C. You should just read those websites I linked, they explain everything.
>>28207306Anon you just told me those websites said there would be NO CHANGE without man, now you're telling me they'll show a 0.01 degree change?I'm starting to doubt your expertise.
>>28207317The Earth is round, yet you call surfaces in your home flat. A woman's chest is called flat if she has smaller than B cups. The differences are because the context of the conversation determines the meaning of ideas and words. On scales of human lifetimes, the Earth's temperature is naturally consistent. Even centuries. Human actions have changed that.
>>28207321The context of the conversation has remained the same and yet you went from 0.01, to none, back to 0.01 again
>>28207324Sounds like you've never done any science then.
>>28207288They dont make cheap evs for the same reason they dont make cheap ICE cars. Anything under $30k is competing with the used market. If most americans had $15k to spend on a car theyd pick a 10 year old s class or a giant lifted cleetus truck over a new 3 cylinder subcompact povertybox which is why they dont sell very well. The problem for evs is that there really is no used market. EVs only got good at the end of 2024 when NACS became standardized and kia/hyundai/genesis dropped a whole bunch of new models and updates. Its probably going to take 15 years for evs to take over in the us because for that to happen all the upper middle class and up leasers will need to switch to evs first then poorfags will buy them as they age while existing gas cars wear out and get scrapped or shipped to africa. Infrastructure is also a problem since poorfags live in apartments and need access to chargers as easily as they have access to gasoline.
>>28207359>They dont make cheap evs for the same reason they dont make cheap ICE cars.But they do make cheap cars. I can get a new Versa with a stick for $15k. This is capable of doing a weekend outing unlike a EV.
>>28207368The versa is dog shit like all nissans and you can get a 10 year old car thats MUCH nicer for the same amount of money which is why nissan is barely surviving
>>28207373I know you can go used but I wanted to keep shit fair. Super cheap shitboxes like that don't really exist because you can spend another $5-10k or another $100/mo on an actually good vehicle.
>>28207378EVs are actually great if you dont get a low end one like a nissan leaf or a bolt. Kia/hyundai/genesis has some incredible electric cars now. The Kia ev6 GT costs $60k, does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and makes 600hp. You needed to buy a $250k lambo to get that 10-15 years ago. Even the $40k base model makes 400hp. Somehow gm figured out how to make decent affordable evs too. The equinox ev is like $35k.
>>28201464Batteries use more energy to provide the same output wattage as internal resistance increases (long term) and as internal voltage decreases (per charge cycle). Starting at 75% will provide exponentially worse range than starting at 100%, and starting a 500 charge cycle battery at 75% will be worse than starting a 5 charge cycle battery at 75%
>>28207330>science™ is the reason I keep changing my answerMhmm yeah sure
>>282073810-60 times are irrelevant. Nobody uses the performance. If you do your range and your $2xxx tires disappear. Shitty EV's like the Equinox get a little over 100 miles of range which isn't even enough for even the most cucked city cucks. How about we go back to my original statement where I asked you for a break down on how its cheaper to drive a leased $60k EV than it is to drive a leased $30k ICE vehicle.
>>28207390Doing either is retarded, just get a used one for half off unless youre a richfag. The chevy equinox gets 300 miles of range btw, it isnt 2014 anymore. My escooter has 100 miles of range
>>28207410I go by the realistic range which is the estimated range halved. I do the exact same with ICE vehicles and their max range except I don't need to divide the range in half. I knock off 2-3mpg for winter gas, extreme temperatures, excessive idling and excessive hooning.
All reasons EV troons provide for why EV are better are nonsense.>Saves money$30k EV+ insurance + tires + electricity cost + insane depreciation. If your goal is to save gas get a hybrid or an econobox for $10k, an EV could never match the TCo after 5 years of owning an econobox. If you live in California, the public chargers cost 60c/kwh, at home it's 50c /kwh during peak hours, 30c during off peak. At 50c if you get 250miles and have a 90kwh bank that's equivalent to $4 a gallon!>Convinient and saves time from going to gas stationsI fill up once a month and get 500miles range, it takes me maybe 10 mins to fill up my tank. With an EV, if you charge at home, you have to remember to plug it in, it's an extra step when you get home and extra step before you leave. Most EV also get 250 mile range, so you're having to plug in often.If you charge at public stations, you will spend at least 30 minutes each time you have to charge. Let's say you and I drove 12k miles per year. You get 250miles with each charge that means you gotta charge your RC car 48 times in the year, or waste 24 hours worth of time. I only had to visit the gas station 24 times cuz I get 500miles range, and each time I spent 10 minutes, so I only wasted 4 hours of my life.I think the whole not going to gas stations thing is only a win for Californias who are constantly being robbed and raped at gas stations.>Low maintenanceFalse. To maintain your warranty most stealerships make up overpriced scheduled services, like $1k to rotate tires, and change cabin air filters. In addition, tires wear out quicker too, you're probably buying new tires every 15-20k miles.
>>28207381There’s a 2023 Ioniq 6 limited near me for $30k, thinking about pulling the trigger. But it’s the first model year so it’s probably got issues.
>>28207492>muh public charging>muh tiresis that really all you got? if one were to charge at home and buy economy tires, then...
>>28201404just buy one then :^) you dont have to ask me if you want to buy a car with your money. we dont live together.
>>28207492>electricity costWhy would you charge during peak hours? I charge at night while asleep, when the rate is NEGATIVE .03/kwh
>>28207385>thinks science is trademarked>wonders why people treat him like a child
>80k + 15k charging port install + 100k battery replacementsvs>2k car + 10 dollars of gas a weekExplain how women think the top is cheaper
>>28207978BECASUE DA LECTRIC COMES FROM DA WALL AND MY HUSBAND PAYS DE BILLS
>>28201404>keeps her local>never need to jump start>never need to fill it up because "hee hee i forgot">never dings your carSure, hon>It's her car, I don't give a shit.
>>28207978>Last year's EV for half the price of new>$80,000>$200 for a 240v outlet, $600 for a 50 amp charger>$15,000>$8000 in 10-20 years>$100,000You're an idiot that can't do math, but also she's telling you she wants a new car and doesn't want to drive a 20 year old beater anymore. Take the hint, man.
>>28208027>wife pays electric bills>suggest her if she wants some electric shitbox for heir daily commute and grocery shopping>looks into their charging prices>decides that "we're not getting an electric car"Fucked EU electricity prices saved me yet again
>>28207978>$15k to install a 240v outlet in your garagelol, lmao even
>>28208098>connect to a dryer outletIf she fucks it up, she gets a free perm out of it.
>>28208228If it’s grounded and has the proper gauge of wire, etc, then you’re good to go.
>>28201448The irony is that batteries are going to deteriorate faster as climate change gets worse.Nobody in the EV space is willing to talk about this for obvious reasons.
>>28201428I spend $80 a month on gas.
>>28201463Doesn’t this just mean you should buy old ones and drive them into the ground?My buddy has killed a Model S 1st- gen (2012) after 6 years of driving and is on his second (2015). I think he’s at like $18k all-in, he got a good bit of money from selling it even bricked.
>>28208098Not everybody has their main breaker panel in their attached garage. If you need to run enough power to realistically charge a EV or two to a detached garage without having an ugly ass conduit running along the outside that shit is going to get expensive real quick. That's also assuming the likely already maxed out breaker panel even has the capacity to run another subpanel. Of course you EVfags can't comprehend the infrastructure needed for EV's and just assume everybody lives in a big house with a 4 car attached garage with a 400 amp breaker panel.
>>28208518Literally put it on the dryer circuit, you are probably using that once a month, at all other times it's perfectly adequate for a 30 amp 240v charger. Is it slower than a 50 or 60 amp? Sure! It also doesn't matter, it's more than adequate for commuting needs.
>>28208524Once a week*But knowing the kind of people on this board, once a month might be more appropriate anyway.
>>28208524Mine and pretty much everybody elses laundry room is down in my basement around 50' or more away from my garage... Are you really suggesting people run a welding/RV extension cable through their house and out a window every time they want to charge their EV? Do you really think that's a fucking valid solution?
>>28208525>implying anyone on /o/ has a car or leaves the house
>>28208529No, split it off at the breaker, obviously. Don't run a fucking extension cable through your house, that's retarded.
>>28208535How exactly do you think the electricity is going to make it from the dryer outlet to the garage 50' away? You know Bluetooth electricity doesn't exist, right? Holy fuck...
>>28208542>reading comprehension
>>28208542You know that a circuit can have multiple outlets on it, right? You just snip the wires and make a split. It's pretty trivial, your house undoubtedly has examples of this all over the place. Just find rooms with multiple outlets on the same circuit.
>>28208544>3rd grade science comprehension>>28208545How the fuck is "splitting the wires" relevant? That's not the fucking hard part. How the fuck do you think the power is making it the 50' from the laundry room to my garage without using any wires or cables?
>>28208548You pay a man from Home Depot $200 to do it for you, since you clearly don't know how.
>>28208554Home Depot is going to give me the $500+ worth of cable as well as rip up and re-pour my patio for $200? Gee golly what a screaming deal!
Just go to construction sites, borrow some heavy duty wire, put a NEMA 1450 male plug on one end and a female plug on the other and there you go
>>28208574I can't wait until you people start burning your houses down. Get ready to pay $50k/yr for house insurance lmao.
>>28207288If you're on the west coast you can find first generation RAV4 EVs for about $2500. You have to put up with 20 miles of range for a while while the NiMH batteries recondition themselves. At the end you get about 80 miles of range and it'll last you FAR longer than any Leaf
>>28208581We've already covered why buying a used EV let alone one that bad is a extremely terrible idea. 40 miles of range is also not comparable to any ICE vehicle at any price point.
>>28208560Does your garage not already have power running to it for the garage door opener? If so, you already have the conduit running there. If not, why have you not already spent the money to run power out to your garage, and if it's lack of money, how do you afford internet?
>>28208588I have a breaker box in my garage, it was already set up for an EV, good stuff.
>>28208576That's what I did when I needed an extension for my J1773 charger and it's worked out fine
>>28208588My garage only has a little 30A sub panel. It's a 1970's house so I would never pull 30A off it. There's no fucking way you're pulling a 6/3 cable through the conduit feeding it.
>>28208602I've got some great news for you, anon. 30 amps of 120v is more than enough to charge an EV. You might only end up getting about 2 kW out of it with a standard 120v outlet, but if you plug in when you get home and leave it plugged in for 12 hours, you will have added about 20 kWh to it, which for most EVs is going to be about 60 miles.
>>28208615>30 amps of 120v >You might only end up getting about 2 kW out of it with a standard 120v outletJesus Fuck. Stop talking about fucking electricity. Fuck it's like a bunch of virgins discussing pussy here.
>>28208621What on earth could you have possibly expected on an EV thread?
>>28208625I would expect at least a Magic School Bus tier understanding of electricity but I guess that was a little much to expect. It seems like people here were thinking about fucking Carlos instead of learning.
>>28208621Electricity is not that complicated. He doesn't want to draw 30 amps. This is fine, because a 120v outlet limited to 15 amps (which is what most American 120v outlets are capable of) puts out 1.8kW of electricity at maximum, which means "about 20 kWh over 12 hours," or "about 60 miles in 12 hours for most EVs."
>>28208657You missed where I said "realistically charge". 120v charging has been proved to be useless many times by now.
>>28201448>Electricity comes from coalYes, but I'll give the EV faggots credit where it's due, at least the electricity from the coal plant doesn't go to powering an oil refinery, then to make gas, then the gas gets shipped to you, and then you put it in your car. I wouldn't be surprised if 1W from the coal plant gets turned into 0.0001W of power available for your car after the whole process is done because it's so inefficient. Now that I think about it, that's probably the whole point
>>28208683The nice thing is that solar is cheaper than ever. The pay back period is usually only 5-7 years now. My state is 60% nuclear anyway.
>>28201404>Look at how much we can save if we get one!Look at how much we can save if you just got a knock off purse.
