how the fuck does something like this even happen?
>>28204745I'm guessing low visibility and ice
just send in more cars. that will get them to work on time.
>>28204745this happens when people look at their phones instead of the road when driving>>28204749>texas>iceallowing retards like this anon to drive is also a contributing factor
Not my problem
>>28204745Why does it look like some of them didn't start braking until they were 100 ft away?
>>28204745No idea, the F isn't even close to the P, so maybe they're just dumb?
>>28204745Snow + rain + bridge = black iceTexas + black ice + cars = cataclysm
>>28204745Overpass covered in ice. Zero traction. On a hill. Can't see the pile up until you crest the hill, then you can't stop. Everyone slides downhill into each other. And it was in the express lane. Jersey barriers on both sides. Turns into a giant death funnel. TxDOT has very little resources or training for icey conditions. Brine was applied the day before but was washed away by above freezing rain that then flash froze when cold winds blew in.
>>28204745More lanes would've fixed this
>>28204757>>texas>>iceit is ice retard. southern retards dont know how to drive when its icy because it happens rarely
>we wuz cowboyz n shie-ACK!!
>>28204745>how the fuck does something like this even happen?Short answer?"Chronic Cranial-Rectal Inversion Syndrome".
>>28204900>southern retards dont know how to driveYou could just stop there.
It's like when you stand next to that junction in GTA:SA in the boonies and traffic begins to pile up and chaos ensues. Americans are all just NPCs.
>>28204745> "I got 4wd and abs bro. Ice don't mean shit to me."
>file upreopen the schools!
This is just an advertisement more than anything to GTFO of Texas and big cities in general in america. Houston Texas is a hellhole.The east coast is shit, the south is shit, the lower west coast is shit. Western Midwest is alright cops are nice there. Really all you have is the rural PNW, Western states like Wyoming and the desert like Arizona, Utah and Idaho where its a good free place to live. Maybe north California too just depends which parts.American big cities are some of the worst places in the world to live and drive vehicles in. Power tripping cops(many of which aren't even second generation Americans but that shit doesnt matter because we are barreling towards collapse and balkanization anyways), zoning laws which protect corpos, terrible fines and taxes that dont pay for shit.America is a hollow shell of what it once was in terms of wages, freedom and personal liberty. If you dont see the writing on the wall right now to get out of the big cities and most populous areas I don't know what to tell you.
>>28204997
>>28204834It seems like every few years texas has some kind of catastrophe due to cold weather, but their strange texan pride has them in denial. Essentially:>it doesn't EVER get cold in texas you fucking retard we don't need to prepare dor ANYTHING!!!
>>28204965texans aren't muricans, they're texans
>>28205005We will never ever pay for salt or plowing, because even if we did, people would scream bloody murder and primary the "idiots" who dared put something out on the road that rusted their vehicles.
>>28205009Shoulda just stayed in California
>>28205012I feel like there's happy middle ground between the state banning lawnmower ICE engines and ignoring tanker shipping and the state where people believe they can shoot anyone who gets within 10 feet of a tree painted purple.
>see blueberries and raspberries in the distance>don't slow downare texans retarded?
>>28205024Yeah, that's why I want to move to Utah or Nevada. Where the fuck have all the pretty white women gone in California?!
>>28205005It's not denial it's just logistics. It's not feasible to store all the equipment you would need to winterize every road in Texas, or even just the north/east part, all year round for one or two icey days a year. People forget how big Texas is. It would take a ridiculous amount of equipment and man hours. Several several times more than any other state, and again, for just a couple of days a year. Instead you just salt the roads, close everything down, and wait until it melts. It sucks people died but at a certain point there has to be a level of personal responsibility. There's a point where it's negligence on the state and a point where you shouldn't have been driving 75mph in the express lane in the middle of the night during icey conditions.
>>28205042>*denial noises*
>>28205043Explain to me who is denying what because I've clearly misunderstood your original post.
>>28204745Icelow visroad comes up and over a hillIce was at the top of the hillNone of the retards on the side of the road thought it would be a good idea to walk up road and warn others
>>28205047Those people driving 75mph in icey conditions were literally thinking "it doesn't get cold in texas you fucking stupid sign!!"
>>28204749>I'm guessing low visibility and iceIce and no winter driving experience. Texans also just run tires until they're bald since it's usually dry.If I recall correctly that was one of the Texas ice storms.It's not much better elsewhere. I tried to visit my folks in Georgia, and my 2000 mile drive screeched to a halt four times due to car wrecks. It's gotten much worse after marijuana decriminalization.
>>28205042>It's not denial it's just logistics. It's not feasible to store all the equipment you would need to winterize every road in Texas, or even just the north/east part, all year round for one or two icey days a year.Atlanta thought otherwise. The economic impact was in the billions for a few weeks, not counting the damages, so now they winterize at any hint of snow or ice. They run trucks for inside I-285 as large as some state fleets.
>>28204745do americans really?
>>28204997>cities are the worst places in the world to live inyou couldve just said this instead
>>28204745Light pollution.
>>28204745Gib full video pls. On the ground footage of huge pileups in progress are my favorite kind of car crash video.
>>28205006Funny 'cause it 's true.There's a gif with some guy in a storm holding a large US flag and screaming something into the wind as he charges forward that was attributed to being Texan. I knew better because no Texan would pick up a US flag before the Lone Star flag.
>>28204745People driving too fast for the road conditions.
meanwhile in china
>>28205311Interesting that everyone behind the red car only brakes in response to a stopped car in front.
>>28205321there's a reason they're called bugmen
>>28205321>Interesting that everyone behind the red car only brakes in response to a stopped car in front.Here's a documentary on the phenomenon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9loGDM8Z40
>>28204997>Arizona is a good free place to livelol you don't know shit
>>28205300>I knew better because no Texan would pick up a US flag before the Lone Star flag.The jeets invading Texas would sooner wipe their ass with the Lone Star than fly anything but their butthole flag. I wish Texans would exercise 2A a bit more aggressively.
>>28205062>It's gotten much worse after marijuana decriminalization.I noticed this here in Michigan. The same week it was legalized, there were 10x the accidents in my area. I was knocked off my motorcycle by a stoner that ran a red light while high as hell. I wish a gruesome death to everyone who drives stoned.
>>28205338When I lived in Michigan between jobs for a couple months, I couldn't believe the fuckery that driving in that state has become. I don't know what crawled out of Pontiac and Detroit, but they earn every dent and scratch they cause. It smells like pot everywhere.
>>28205344I live near Detroit and often drive around the country for work. I can say with confidence that drivers in Detroit are the worst in the country. Witnessing fatal crashes is not uncommon and I see at least 2 accidents every day on my 15 minute commute down 696. It really is like mad max out here. Stoned niggers doing 115 in the left lane in salt rotted Altimas and Challengers remove a lot of people from the road around here.
>>28205350>Stoned niggers doing 115 in the left lane in salt rotted Altimas and Challengers remove a lot of people from the road around here.I've lived all around the US and Detroit is a clear top 5. It almost made me miss driving in Birmingham, AL, where they weave in traffic at 110 mph halfway sober instead because the factories nearby drug test every month. It's either that or get crushed by a Korean manufacturing robot after walking into the no-go zone high.
>>28205366>get crushed by a Korean manufacturing robot after walking into the no-go zone high.kek
>>28204834based weather
>>28204745As a Texan, I must say that we are fucking retarded when driving in winter conditions.
>>28204745What happens when people who grow up without snow or ice suddenly get lots of snow and ice.
>>28205038White women are going extinct.You'll have to find small pockets in wealthy neighborhoods like certain parts of SoCal, Marina neighborhood in SF, Marin, and the landowning families in rural counties like Placer, etc.CA is 1/3 Asian, 1/3 LatinZ, some Blacks, then half the "whites" are mixed Hispanic.I'm a Chink manlet and refuse to fuck anything except white women from rich families. There is no hope.
>>28204798I spent 2 years in Houston.Serious shit.
>>28205042Yeah yeah yeah, as if it was that difficult. In my neck of the woods it's just contract work, The local government does have heavy equipment to get the snow off the roads, but you can also apply to get paid as a contractor if you have your own vehicle, so many people out here just slap a plow onto a suburban or a pickup truck and go get paid during a storm. A lot of landscaping companies just become snow clean up crews for wintertime.So the state gets the big snow plows for the main roads and highways, and let's all of the contractors to clean up the side streets and suburbia, You fuckers could easily do that, instead of crying about it being too expensive.
>>28205001Was he wrong?
>>28205338Anyone who says prohibition doesn't work is an idiot. If we simply executed anyone found guilty of drug production/sale/consumption, society would be clean and sober in a month.
>>28207224You think I wain't gone been done been gone to Placer or Marin counties? Some hotties there for sure though
>>28207478prohibition was actually not about curbing public alcohol usage, that was just the media lie.it was to eliminate the common man's ability to manufacture gasoline from ethanol which had only recently come into financial prominence as a fuel for these newfangled motor cars after merely being lantern fluid and cleaning solution for a century.as always christcucks' wicked temperance merely lead us into hell
>>28204745You see the subhuman goblino when the video starts?Every vehicle in that video had one in the drivers seat.
>>28207488>physicists at alternate-universe Exxon invented time travel and went back in time to 1893 to found the Anti Saloon League and start a public campaign to ban alcohol as part of an incredibly circuitous and difficult scheme to temporarily cockblock private gasoline production when private cars were brought to market decades later
>>28207586>leave the trillion dollar corporation alone
Why doesn't the government offer a subsidy or tax break for people to get all terrain or winter tires and have them installed? Like it would cost less money than fixing up all these accidents because people have shitty econo-tires from the manufacture worn to the treads that cannot handle ice.
>>28207589>corporations bad therefore retarded conspiracy theory true
>>28207239What, you weren't a fan of the hordes of barely literate tiny Hispanic wamyn driving oversized trailer sized SUVs causing highway shutdowns daily because they can't fucking stop making suicidal last second turns or the hordes of jeets thinking the caste system applies on the road? LolGet me the fuck out of here man. I want to say it's not always those two, but it is literally always those two demographics.
>>28204745>Watch me break through my 84m@1195$ loan debtslavechain!!1
>>28204749>>28205048low visibility is not an excusecan't see? slow down
>>28207597>t. shell employee
>>28204745americans all mixed with black people so theyre pretty dumb
>mfw reading this thread>mfw some day i wanted to temporarly import my car into the states and drive it from texas to commiefornia and then to the east coastim having second thoughts here
>>28207809Just don't do it in the winter? There won't exactly be black ice on Texas highways for the 10 months out of the year when it's 80+.
there's a reason there's not a single american race car driver of note at the international level of motorsport
This entire thread is proof that if you've never driven in winter conditions, you literally have zero driving skillsGet fucked.
>>28207224AHEHAEHAHE
>>28204834Based. Fuck Texas and fuck anyone that lives there.
>>28204834All highways should be flat. Cars should be equipped with emergency dazzlers in case of crash
>>28205338I am off the road for 2.5 weeks because of a stoner who hit me driving with his headlights off (just left his house)He reeked. That drug is just below the realm of driving drunk. Maybe worse in that it's users feel entitled to drive intoxicated and don't see any reason to slow down or be more cautious
>>28204745Autotragic retards that only understand how to press the brake to slow down. When that doesn't work due to ice/snow their brains lock up.
>>28204834Notice how all the truck passenger compartments look relatively unscathed while the carfags got btfo. Curious.
>>28208087stfu, wedont need more regulations
>>28204997>Western states like Wyoming and the desert like Arizona, Utah and Idaho where it’s a good free place to live. All those states besides Wyoming are booming in population and will be the next California or Texas in 20 years
>>28204997>rural PNWYeah maybe if you like DUDE WEED LMAO and other such tards
>>28207605No sometimes it's the blacks.More often than not they don't give a fuck about anything while on the highways.This city is for the dogs.
>>28208622I like forests, moderate winters, and I can get the hell away from dipshits up in the mountains. The fucking mud sucks though.
>>28207969Fuck you babydick!
>>28204745It happened because texans are a subhuman genetic cesspool of all the worst qualities one can have, who are shaped by an environment that is essentially a giant outdoor stripmall in an inescapable flat hellscape that is either hot and way too dry or hot and way too humid. We would be better off as a country if we gave the entire state back to mexico and then nuked it.>>28204997Stay in texas. Do not come to the PNW/INW. You are not wanted.
>>28208654Careful, anon. Californians that hate our summers and gun laws would really enjoy Bend, OR and Boise, ID, don't you think?
>>28208668They’re already there
>>28208684My man, you haven't seen nothing yet.
>>28208654>>28208668>>28208684>>28208688KEK too late
>>28208709Case in point. Now think of 1000 more of these coming each week
>>28208709Yeah, let me know when some dipstick buys up multiple 1600-2000 sq/ft proprties for 800k and then puts 2 of them on air B&B immediately. The only thing keeping everyone from being homeless here is absolutely no one wants to vacation here because of the climate.
>>28207818Same reason there's no good american soccer players. All the international sports suck ass compared to the american ones and no one gives a fuck about them.
>>28207597Yes.
>>28207818but when an american race car driver beats a euro (who even says that there was nothing unusual going on, he just got beaten fair and square) the seething commenceshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQZgBiiSDao
>>28207597NTA but yes. Corporations are not your friend and they continue to lobby for anti consumer practices to this very day.
>>28209143>Hitler bad therefore Hitler was secretly having gay threesomes with Stalin and Darth Vader
>>28209145I'm sorry you zoned out through your school classes, anon.
>>28209155>I willingly and openly pretend to believe ludicrous bullshit about people I hate purely because I hate themRemind me quickly why anyone should listen to you about anything ever?
Who's gonna tell him lol
>>28205062>It's gotten much worse after marijuana decriminalization.Women, drunks, and immigrants cause all of the accidents, and it's gotten worse since more immigrants and more social media.
>>28205068>City of Atlanta>25,000 miles of paved road>State of Texas>314,000 miles of paved road>time and cost to winterize the roads are the same
>>28205005I'm in TX and all the other retards, probably your relatives, bitched and moaned about sand trucks for the one ice storm now half a decade ago. My city council put together a proposal - two trucks, maintenance, drivers, and a building to put them in was something like 2 million dollars for five years of use, or roughly zero days since that freak storm. They said they'd have to bump property taxes to pay for it, and like magic those retards vanished. Our infrastructure is built around heat, not cold, and definitely not ice. And for the same reason Alaska's is built around snow removal and cold.
>>28204757Say that you don’t live in Texas without saying it. Ice and snow storms do happen
>>28205005Texans are actually pretty proud of their unpredictable weather.
>>28205311is this purely drive incompetence, or are cheap chinese tires and brakes responsible?
>>28210202>Texans are actually pretty proud of their weatherI could never see above 90F or under 35F again and not miss either one, but I might as well wish for a pony while I'm at it.
>>28205042who crashed first though? a texan aka a retard. case closed
>>28205009Sanding the roads is also an option, done in some areas with actual winters where people hate salting.
>>28204757it was below freezing at night the majority of last week here in San Antonio and will for the beginning of next week. I think Houston has also had a freeze this year as well.
>>28205038>utahlel enjoy your cancer dusthttps://attheu.utah.edu/research/just-how-dangerous-is-great-salt-lake-dust-new-research-looks-for-clues/
>>28207647if he's from Houston, there's a good chance he actually is lmao
>>28210023>comparing a city to a statefucking retardgook moot, plz just delet this entire site already
>>28205038If California is anything like where I live, a ridiculous amount are dying of weird cancers. It's a genuine wave.
>>28210816>responding to someone bringing up Atlanta>WAOW YOUR AND R TARD FOR COMPARISON CITY OF STATE!?!?!?!?!?!Go shave perpendicularly to your jugular.
>>28209139>immediately loses to a mid-tier euro race car driver 5 minutes lateramazing
I suppose when the normie culture is;>1s following distance>Everyone is an above-average driver>I know the road>Fog is normal>Big flashy lights on the horizon means the finish line quick go go goNo excuses, really.>>28204749Low visibility? You can almost see the back of the camera in the clip.
>>28204745Don't you have this kind of thing in the US??
>>28204757I bet you thought you were so smart when making this post.
>>28204745Based
>>28207224theres blonde white women from eastern europe and jewish countries that would love your china dick
Every year americans mocks winter/studded tires and every year they are like this.
>>28211340How do you put studded tires on this?
>>28211340You do realize that a southern state like Texas may see ice like this once or twice a year, if at all, and most of the time it doesn't even last 24 hours right?Colder climate states yes, you do have a point, but not in OPs example.
>>28204834How does insurance work here? Who is at fault here? This is easily a million in damage from this one incident and this shit happens all the time. Insurance doesn't even like paying for fender benders
>>28211456That million in damages is split between several different carriers since each driver is supposed to have their own coverage.I was involved in a multi car accident like that and my insurance covered it no problem FWIW
>>28204745they should install a raspberry pi in a weatherproofed box with a camera on one side of the bridge pointing at the road that figures out if the road is blocked or congested and then turn on a warning signal before the bridge to make people slow down
>>28204749>>28205048>low visibilitycan't be, the state made all street lights LED so the roads are bright as day even at night. what do you mean they're only directional and don't give off any ambient light to illuminate the surrounding area? they're blinding people?
>>28212572that makes too much sense for the DOT to consider
>>28212572that will be 110,000 dollars, not including installation feeds and materials costwhere did that money go if not into installation or materials?beats me, :))))))))))))))
>>28204757Dallas got snow and ice last week. The roads were absolutely empty, it was quite nice.
>>28212920guy at work i keep in touch with showed me the invoice he got from a local repair shop, since it was public trains, a normally $2000 job became 5 grand :^)
>>28207586>back in time to 1893 to found the Anti Saloon League>private cars were brought to market decades laterI don't really care but this is the worst kind of midwit take. Can you not conceive of the possibility that the aforementioned interests - hypothetically, remember I don't give a fuck - co-opted and supported a heretofore literally who organisation, over a period of say, decades? Prohibition was in place in the US from 1920 - 1933. It's quite unlikely that you're actually shilling for corporate interests, which just makes it that bit sadder. You're supporting forces that actively work against you and are kvetching about some dude on the internet speculating. Why? Because you thought about something on a very superficial level in an attempt at an "I am very smart" moment. You are a lickspittle and a redditor.
>>28211125>Don't you have this kind of thing in the US??Sure, but nobody reads them anymore because some wise-ass somewhere decided to use them as propaganda devices and now it's spread everywhere. Before that if there was a message up it was Important. Now it's just Tuesday.Note that the (very slightly) humorous messages here have been banned by the federal government. They have to be straightforward, like buckle up, don't speed, etc.
>>28213053>Note that the (very slightly) humorous messages here have been banned by the federal government.Nobody tell TxDoT. They still put them up on our stretch of 35. Yeah, they're terrible, but I'd miss them.
>>28213053In my city during rush hour if there is an accident they will post the location, delay, and to seek alternate route. They don't do it every time, but at least it's an attempt. I have seen them post warnings about black ice also.
>>28204745Staying off major roads during moderately bad weather is a survival skill in Texas.
>>28212952Yeah, I'd do the same thing if I got a government contract, because I know that they're stupid and they'll pay for it.
>>28204834EXCELLENT ANALYSIS but... you forgot the element of hubris inherent in the asshole DFW driver. Now I am not suggesting it is South Florida bad, but it's pretty bad.
>>28204745Not sure, F and P aren’t anywhere near each other on the keyboard.
>>28205042>several several more times than any stateRoad deicing consumes a massive part of any wintery state's road budget. Cuyahoga County, Ohio alone drops more salt on the roads in a week than Texas would need to in a 3 year period.You people are just stupid.
>>28214850they're a colemak user
>>28204745We cant allow AI to take over trucking, our professional truck drivers are much safer than AI ever could be.
>>28216145How would AI deal with this situation though? I doubt it could be programmed to recognise black ice before you hit it based on visuals alone? And the problem is that once you hit it you have zero traction so it doesn't really matter what you do at that point if you're already travelling at 70mph. The only way it could work is if the cars were all sharing data with one another on a network and once one car hit the ice all the others would know to slowdown before they hit it. But as far as I'm concerned it is no longer true autonomous driving when your vehicle is dependent on an external network to function.
>>28204745If I remember right the vast majority of fatalities from this event were people who had left their vehicles to try and get to saftey or assist injured people still in their vehicle.So what would you do in this situation? Would you stay in your car and risk getting crushed by a semi or exit and try and make the much more perilous 30 second sprint off the highway?
>>28216193Generally you'd stay in your "armor" until things settle down but there's enough exceptions, such as fire, that there can't be a single rule beyond Don't Panic.
>mogs
>>28205311Do chinkoids really build their lawns out of wood?
>>28210238Incompetence.You have to remember that China is new to driving all things considered. 20 years ago the majority of their population was on their first generation of drivers, as in most people getting a license and buying a car were the first people in their familial line to ever do so. By contrast when I got my license 10 years ago I was the fourth generation of my family to learn to drive. So there was very little skill to go around in China when it came to putting hundreds of millions on the road for the first time. Under supply of driving instructors, no parents to have picked up driving skills from through observation over childhood, and lack of skilled drivers around you on the road to learn by example.In that webm I suspect that most of those people simply aren't aware of how much braking force their car actually has because no one ever told them and they never saw someone brake hard ever in their life. So they see the hazard ahead and muscle memory means they just hit the brake with the amount of force they typically would before simply accepting their fate.
>>28210023have you ever interacted with a GA DOT employee before?
When was the last time you saw a train pile up?
