I have mixed feeling /o/.Just shy of a two months ago my car was drug off by a shadetree mechanic I sold it to because it was beyond saving. For the time being until I can procure enough cash to buy another car I have borrowed my fathers unused work truck that barely gets 5 mpg on the 390 because it has a cylinder down on pressure. I can count the six on startup, hear the seventh soon after and eventually, eight.I just need it to get to work in town. Really. Strangest thing is the smiles, the waves, the peace signs and nods from random folks I just smile and nod back to in good faith. Trust me folks, It's not intentional, but OK. I'll roll with it.It's expensive in fuel and little other than wipers, lights and the oil pressure/water temp working, it's worth waiting for another car...for now.
>>28207424If you drive 12k miles a year you will spend a grand total of $4,160 on fuel at current prices at 9mpg. When you look at it like that, its not really a whole lot of money, especially compared to buying a newer vehicle. Even without that though driving an old ford is based and you should keep her clean.
Do a tuneup and keep rocking the old ford.
>>28207424there must be several high traffic F150 forums where you could ask if anything can be done about the mpg
>>28207501Or even the 4-5 owners of F-100 pickups in /classic car general/
stuck rings? give er the ol italian tuneup
>>28207424What a piece of shit. Send that turd to the scrap yard.
>>28207501www. fordification .com is the prime website for the bumpside F-100s.>>28207736Go smoke a cat turd, fag.
>>28207740Ford people are such delusional queers
>>28207744pls give chevy, saar!
>>28207432I should have provided distance to help the numbers. My round trip drive is just 4.5 miles. With a rough estimate of working days monday to friday (260 days) then 260 x 4.5 = 1170 miles per year. It's not so bad.Current gas prices around the bay area where I fill right now are at about $4.16 a gallon. If that stays relatively stable then I'm using 234 gallons (1170/5) and fuel being 4.16 comes to $973.44 per calendar year (234x4.16).Could be worse.
>>28207735that would be an insane amount of carbon buildup if the mileage went down 40%the bitog forums are kind of obsessed with valvoline's restore and protect as is lake speed jr. though i don't know if that's an appropriate oil to use with a carburetor>>28207736common zoomer L
>>28207829did you ask your dad when was the last time it had an oil change
>>28207424Advance the distributor a couple degrees until it sounds rightIf it knocks or pings, up the fuel grade
>>28207859I second this, fuck with timing and see how it does. Also find an old goober who has had dozens and feed him beer till he tells you it sounds right.
>>28207424Pic's grainy, but that body looks extremely tight. When you get a new DD, I hang on to this and just do a ring-job and maybe freshen up the valves and seats.
>>28207424When you get a free weekend that you don't need to drive ANYWHERE, pour Marvel Mystery Oil in the goofed up cylinders and let it sit for 24+ hours. Then yank the + wire off the coil and turn it over for a few seconds to evacuate and then re-hook + wire and fire back up. It may not be 100% effective, but you don't have to yank the engine and re-ring it to see an improvement.
>>28208826I think i'll try that for the time I use it since any increase in mileage is a plus. I've also used a light before so i'll see where it is and give that dizzy a twist in timing to see if it helps.
>>28208642Wish I had a photo to show instead of an online one, but the truck to this one is near identical. Only change is primer on the roof instead.
>>28208835Let us know how it goes, bro. Post up in /ccg/. I've got a '69 I'm picking up from a brake job tomorrow myself. Not as good of paint as yours, but yeah.
This is a 70 F-100 I got for free. Had to hammer out some major dentage, but the engine was free and fired right up after some tinkering. Rear axle was fucked, but I stole one out of another parts pickup I had...
>>28208884Seat re-done, re-centered some H1 beadlocks for it and running 37" tires. Front springs still stock in this pic.
>>28208884Built a flatbed for it.
>>28208884Finished. I really need to get this thing out and drive it some more... Been parked for a couple years now.
>>28208898You near Lamar?
>>28208969>You near Lamar?Its about an hour drive from here.
>>28208979Cantaloupe farmer?
>>28208980>Cantaloupe farmer?I'm not a cantaloupe farmer myself, but yeah we have em around here. I raise hay and cattle.
>>28207444trips have spoken
>>28208982Right on. I love driving through that area for some reason. Also, those Rocky Ford's taste the best.
>>28208987I like the trucks but seems like I enjoy the folks with them too. Simple makes things easy to fix.Keep up the wrenching all. Never let a good truck die.
>>28208987>Right on. I love driving through that area for some reason. Also, those Rocky Ford's taste the best.There's a reason the Rocky Ford school mascot is the Meloneer! Lol. Not usually much going on around here, but that's a big part of why I like it...
>>28208836She really looks like something to hold onto. If those rings don't unstick, but the cylinders and pistons turn out to be not too bad, I'd definitely do the rings/valves/seals and keep right on going. I can't remember if your year has the small side-storage compartment, in the bed, that the '70s models had, but if it does, definitely watch out for rust there.
>>28207424>barely gets 5 mpg on the 390Why don't people swap more recent (1990's) 2L Diesels in those? I don't see the point of a 390ci V8 in that body, you're not gonna go fast either way so might as well make it a slow workhorse like pic related.
>>28209780I would if I had a way to remove an engine that weighs roughly 700 lbs. I know a 6BT is around 1100 lbs. but I'd honestly rather have a OM617 in there for 30 MPG. Even with the turbo it's roughly the same weight as the 390 and having the 722 transmission gives me a fourth gear. Unless I tow a lot, it'd be perfect.
>>28207726'66 F100 owner with the FE here.>must be something that can be done for fuel mileageHahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha>>28209780Why not just convert to electric?Why drive a truck at all, a moped will get you to the same destination...Oh btw, that 2L diesel has a shit fucking torque curve. That FE will drag it behind the wood shed and beat it to death with its own exhaust manifold.You're the typical nocar busrider that looks at wiki pages that list peak numbers without knowing how the area under the curve translates to real-world performance.In other words- fuck off.
>>28209809>I would if I had a way to remove an engine that weighs roughly 700 lbs.Ah fuck that's heavy. I get why some here speak of "boat anchors".>>28209829>Why not just convert to electric?Sounds more complicated.>Why drive a truck at all, a moped will get you to the same destination...True.>Oh btw, that 2L diesel has a shit fucking torque curve. That FE will drag it behind the wood shed and beat it to death with its own exhaust manifold.We're not benchracing, who cares about torque curves?>You're the typical nocar busrider that looks at wiki pages that list peak numbers without knowing how the area under the curve translates to real-world performance.I in fact drive an sw20, I'm just not versed in trucks you fucking swarthoid. Nor was optimizing the power the objective here, you little uppity monggrel.>In other words- fuck off.Either post your car or fuck off yourself.
>>28207726'73 F100 with a 429 here10 mpg is just part of the experience
>>28208891That's hot. Really like the way that turned out on that truck man.
>>28208898Needs full on U.S. Army decal treatment.
>>28209835The fact that you thought some 30 yearold 4 banger diesel is going to be a worthwhile swap shows you have no fucking clue what the FE is or what it takes to get a fullsize moving down the road.Go back to the miata general or /mlp/ or wherever your faggot ass usually hangs out and stay out of future truck threads unless you're there to lurk and learn.
>>28208898Do my eyes deceive me or do I see un-rotted cab corners and lower fenders?
>>28209780New rings and it goes from 5mpg to 12 and easily cruises at 70mph. Why waste time with a swap.
>>28210585>Do my eyes deceive me or do I see un-rotted cab corners and lower fenders?I had to do some cutting and patching on some of the sheet metal but it wasn't in too terrible of shape really. If I remember right the lower fenders were rusted out. The way the support is on the back side holds dirt and water in there. I also opened up the fenders and added a 3/8 or 1/2" rod to stiffen up the edge. Cab corners weren't too bad, but I did cut the bottoms out of them because it was another pocket of dirt in there... Sealed em back up with some fire resistant foam up to the cab floor level. Probably not 100% ideal. Also I did have to patch up the floor panels some too. I really should have gotten a true "before" picture, but I'm notoriously bad about not doing that. I always get a halfway through picture and then a bunch of finished pictures. Lol! >>28210004>That's hot. Really like the way that turned out on that truck man.Thanks man, the frame is all pallet racking cross braces so the entire thing is very light and yet strong. Deck is all dimple died. Spare tire carrier will unpin and hinge back making a rack for carrying longer loads, or just unpin completely and pull off. Spare tire carrier has a 4 way lug wrench to hold down the spare. I've done this to a bunch of my pickups, usually with the spare on the headache rack.
>>28210530Stop the seething and do some reading.There are some seriously worthwhile 2L diesel engines when properly boosted can make some excellent numbers. One I've been looking at is the little gem made by Cummins: The R2.8161 hp/ 310 ft lbs, just 500 lb. in weight, the wiring harness is brilliantly simple and plenty of adapters to chose from.Biggest problem is needing a deep pocket...
>>28210736>Biggest problem is needing a deep pocket...Damn, no kidding. $13k with trans, $9k without and you're gonna need that trans.
>>28210674What front bumper are you running? Looks sick.
>>28210736>I want better fuel economy because of the price of gas so I'm going to drop $10k into a turbo diesel + transmission + support components + cuastom fab work to pay 2x the price per gallon and wind up costing the same per mile.Yep.You're a fucking retard.
>>28210802>Yep.You're a fucking retard.$13K in a $2K solid frame is a $15K truck that will do everything I want at bottom dollar with no miles and a fresh start. You can't find that brand new.Get back to the dark corner behind the Wendy's you crawled out from dumbass.
Put a 351c with aussie 302 heads and a c6 auto column in it and run it on propane with some autolite plugs, a good electronic dizzy and a good exhaust. Won't bust your wallet and will still go hard as fuk
>>28210817>with no miles and a fresh startExcept for the 40 year old suspension and steering and diff and electrical and interior and the myriad of worn out components from hood hinges to window regulators.>thinks he can buy a $10k engine and have the necessary support components for just another $3kYou're beyond retarded.You can freshen up an FE and outperform that pos diesel 4 banger and get better mileage per dollar while spending a quarter of the price for your swap.You've never dealt with a truck.You've never done an engine swap.I question if you even own any tools.Just gtfo.
>>28210750>What front bumper are you running? Looks sick.Just one I made myself. It's a bit ridiculous overkill. Made it out of 3/8" thick plate.
>>28210923Do you have a dimple die or something? CAD laser/plasma cutter?
>>28211355>Do you have a dimple die or something? CAD laser/plasma cutter?Dimple dies sized to match hydraulic knockout punches from HF for stuff up to 1/8" thick No CAD or CNC anything. Do have a hand torch plasma, but dont use it much... Don't remember using it at all on the green pickup. Basically a tape measure, some layout tools, drill, grinder and torch are my most used tools. Horizontal swivel head bandsaw made all the cuts it had the capacity for on the bumper. Big holes were centerpunched, scribed with a compass, torched out and finished with a cone stone on an angle grinder. Holes in the bed were laid out in a grid and drilled to 3/4 with a step bit, then punched out with the hydraulic knockout punch and then dimple died with the same hydraulic puller you use with the knockouts.
>>28209780i just want you to know id hit you with a brick in person for suggesting pulling a ford v8 out for a clattering piece of shit deisel.
>>28210530>Go back to the miata general or /mlp/ or wherever your faggot ass usually hangs out and stay out of future truck threads unless you're there to lurk and learn.You sound like a fat fucking faggot using his work equipment as a stand-in for your inadequacy. Kill yourself you ape, any 2.0L PSA diesel will be plenty for OP.
>>28211461How about my knee going through your orbital floor you nofight faggot? Is that a good reward for your stupid V8-worshipping ass?
>>28207444Ya it's an old engine which means you can rip it apart with a socket set and a screw driver in one afternoon
>>28211602You're going to spin that 4 banger diesel upto 2k just to get out of a parking lot.Meanwhile it takes 2 feet on the brake pedal to keep that FE at a standstill at a stop light at idle.You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.You see numbers on a piece of paper and have no idea how it translates to the real world.Drivability of that 2.0 is going to be absolute shit.It will spend its life between 3k and 5k rpms.Meanwhile that FE will be doing 80 on the freeway at 2k.Seriously.GTFO and don't come back until you do some research or take a basic bitch automotive night class because you look like a fucking moron.
>>28211678>You're going to spin that 4 banger diesel upto 2k just to get out of a parking lot.>Meanwhile it takes 2 feet on the brake pedal to keep that FE at a standstill at a stop light at idle.>It will spend its life between 3k and 5k rpms.>Meanwhile that FE will be doing 80 on the freeway at 2k.You sound like pure benchracer from 2010 /o/. "Muh 80mph at 2kRPM" who the fuck cares? Literally who the fuck cares except you and your little butler boyfriend you fucking faggot? Oh nooo I have to rev an internal combustion engine woe is me? Shut the fuck up you utter faggot. OP said he was worried about the abysmal mileage, and you're screeching like a banshee only because of your autistic cult of the V8.
>>28207501For 351W I'm using https://www.fullsizebronco.com/threads/the-ultimate-better-mpg-thread.120045/A lot of it is just using some newer tech with higher ratings.
>>28211692I DD a 4 banger.I have V6's and V8"s.I'm not some poorfag apartment dweller with a McJob like yourself.I was rebuilding engines while you were in diapers.I actually have automotive experience, which you have proven you lack.When you build an engine, the cam profile and vac vs mech secondaries makes a difference depending on if it's going in a 3200 pound car or a 4400 pound truck.You went from "2.0L diesel from the 90's" to "just use this turbo 4 crate motor that cost more than the truck to save $1,000 a year in fuel".You're throwing random engines at an application based on nothing but what Wikipedia tells you peak numbers are.You're a fucking idiot.You've been proven wrong repeatedly with explanations as to why and have had zero rebuttals.So stfu and leave.
>>28211710>You went from "2.0L diesel from the 90's" to "just use this turbo 4 crate motor that cost more than the truck to save $1,000 a year in fuel".The first was me, the second was not. You're fucking retarded because it was easy to notice I've only given french (Peugeot) examples while the other anon answering you spoke of a Cummings crate engine. You sound absolutely assblasted for no fucking reason, I don't give a flying fuck about your faggot biography, and the only thing you've "proven" is you being a seething subhuman.OP has even answered me saying he didn't have the means for a swap, and that he'd prefer a Mercedes Diesel if he could. Meanwhile from the start you've disqualified OP's request with>must be something that can be done for fuel mileage>Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaand only kept posting about "muh V8 muh torque" like some deranged crackhead. Re-read the entirety of the thread, realize just how much of an absolute nigger you've been and then move on.
>>28211608deisel niggers get the rope
>>28211788checked
>>28211461>i just want you to know id hit you with a brick in person for suggesting pulling a ford v8 out for a clattering piece of shit deisel.But, hear me out here... what if it was a 6.9 or 7.3 IDI clattering piece of shit diesel???I have a few of those sitting around and think one in a 76 or 77 dentside would be pretty neat...
>>28212639If you are gonna go through the effort might as well throw a diesel that’s a little less of a boat anchor.
>>28211732Oh shit.One of you dumbfucks are still here?OK.Let's do the paint-by-numbers route.EPA and Fuelly say a 1978 F100 with an FE big block 390 will pull 11mpg.So what kind of rating does that 4 banger do when it's hauling a 4500 pound anchor?Oh, you dont know what happens when you add 500 or 1000 pounds (or in this case an actual fucking ton) to a load?!OK so what is the mpg of the factory combo to compare?You have some mythical 40mpg on a2200 pound shitbox (?)What's the price difference for gasoline vs diesel?Gi ahead, answer these questions without looking like a fucking moron.
>>28212673I think something like an om617 td would be pretty alright. They get around mid 20s in a 4000 brick with an ancient 4 speed auto. I’d see something like low 20s in an application with a real light truck like this. Not like you are gonna be doing any serious work with an old f100 with any engine no matter what.
>>28212684Rough numbers on an OM617 is 22-28 mpg with the auto in a 3200 lb car. The old F250 with no matter what engine it came factory is going to beat the 0-60 of that diesel that has only a 17.8 second time, but gas mileage will prevail otherwise. It simply all depends on what you want to do with it.
>>28212639why are you like this
>>28207424>gets 5 mpg...I can count the six on startup, hear the seventh soon after and eventually, eight.Power valve
>>28212785>3200 pound carMy fox body mustang hit the scales at 3280.So in an F100 you're now in the teens.You've lost power and with the cost of diesel you're paying more per mile.
>>28213105>My fox body mustang hit the scales at 3280.Put the fork down! jk why so high? These things should be around 400 less than that?
>>28213105Isn’t an old f100 like a 3000 lb truck?
>>28213112lol what? fuck no. A '78 f100 is like 3,800 lbs in the absolute lightest configuration, most are over 4,000
>>28212793>why are you like thisJust a product of my environment...
>>28212815I should pull apart that old Motocraft 2100 and redo the gaskets. Could be a vaccuum thing. Couldn't hurt to swap in a new power valve.During a plug check I found two sockets have been helicoiled. Pressure might not be there.
>>28213106Ya it's the heaviest fox I know about.It has the glass roof (thats what it's called, gotta be special and not just say "removable sunroof"), full stereo, a modified Saleen body kit, supercharger and intercooler, underglo (fuck you, i like it and have had it since before the first F&F came out), aftermarket alarm with modules for windows and other shit and tanky Cobra R 17s. All that crap adds up.
>>28213172Ya that 3,800 is like a 6 cylinder shortbed stepside with power nothing.The stepside beds were single wall, only takes 2 people to take it off the truck. Not going to do that with the fleetside bed. Just bumper options could increase the weight a hundred pounds.The FX transmission is a cast iron case with aluminum bell housing and tail cone.A stock FE iron intake is 76 poundsMost of those trucks are 4,500+
>>28213106>>28213268That's about what a friends 90 LX 5.0 5 speed weighed in 1990. My 82 Capri RS 5.0 T-top without A/C weighed 2940 at the time.I don't remember fuel levels. As for putting down the fork both of us were under 150lbs then as this was before everybody started getting fat in the late 90's. Besides we weren't in the cars when we weighed them anyway.
>>28212815blown pv would just be flooding constantly
