>1950s utopias>tons highways and freeways going through cities>2020s utopias>cars non-existentWhat happened?
i enjoy the walkable city shit, but its a thing that can only exist in countries that have a collectivist mindset. here in america, you cannot trust that the other person won't be a psycho and decide to just shit in the middle of the walk way or pick pocket you or stab you.this kind of shit only works in very small niche european countries like belgium or mega bug empires like China/Korea/Japan.
>>28209704Opposite, I feel like America needs it more because you can't trust a psycho to a 2 ton vehicle.
>>28209710you can kill far more people clumped together on foot than you can in traffic.
>>28209711If that were the case then places like NYC wouldn't have 8 deaths per year in the subway vs hundreds from cars.
>>28209715are those hundreds of deaths from 1 person?
>>28209683>>1950s utopias>>tons highways and freeways going through citiesBrought to you by General Motors, silly goy.
>>28209683>What happened?Big Auto has spent decades lobbying for the federal government and municipalities to invest in roads and highways instead of public infrastructure (such as trains) so that they could sell more cars. Companies such as GM also acquired transportation companies for the sole purpose of killing electric trolleys so they could sell more buses and cars. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy
>>28209704>you cannot trust that the other person won't be a psycho and decide to just shit in the middle of the walk way or pick pocket you or stab youBut you're absolutely fine with the same mongrels being at the wheel of cars? You utter and complete retard. Pre-suburban America was great.
>>28209704If we had public funds committed to locking up the crazies, it wouldn’t be such a problem. But that would be sOciAliSm.
>>28209715>>28209719Also, self driving cars can drastically reduce deaths from car accidents, while allowing people to still have a private method of transportation.You can't control people walking around. the best thing about a car is that it shields you from the world outside. you can listen to anything you want, have a private conversation with anyone you want, and even sleep in it all without prying eyes. if you piss someone off in a car, most of the time, there isn't anything they can do to you. if you piss someone off on foot, they can just kick your ass right then and there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3JzxlatUsthis sentiment is shared with this hit song "Cars" by Gary Numan where he outlines how safe and secure we all feel in the privacy of our own cars. its like a small piece of home away from home.>>28209731Good thing self driving cars exist. how do you control the same mongrel who just beats you to a pulp instead?
>>28209732How do you deem someone "crazy"? tons of "crazy" people who actually have diagnoses live normal lives. and tons of people who are otherwise mentally healthy, can just snap from the pressure and stress of society and decide to beat the fuck out of the next person who bumps into them.
>>28209734>Good thing self driving cars exist. Stupid brainless shill. Self-driving cars are completely retarded, and will only cause more accidents.>how do you control the same mongrel who just beats you to a pulp instead?Ah so that's what it was: you being a little sissy. Well, good thing for you prissy, there'll be someone to stand up for you.
>>28209739Ah, you're just a scared luddite. carry on, then. this discussion is for the mentally mature.
>>28209732>But that would be sOciAliSm.socialists in current year are opposed to locking up crazies fyi
>>28209734>if you piss someone off in a car, most of the time, there isn't anything they can do to you. if you piss someone off on foot, they can just kick your ass right then and there.This sentence is just sad. You're a failure of a human being, let alone of a man.
>>28209742Have you ever actually been in a fight in your life? do you find it pleasant to be struck, even for a minor slight?
>>28209741>socialists in current year are opposed to locking up crazies fyiYou're thinking of your retarded liberals.>>28209740>no argument except "luddite"The technology is nowhere near good enough to even be on the level of the average texting muttoid Stacy. The sudden rise you're seeing is simply "investors" losing patience and wanting to profit as soon as possible.
>>28209744>Have you ever actually been in a fight in your life?Yes, I even compete in MMA for fun. Getting into a scrap is fun as long as you know it won't escalade to a certain point.>do you find it pleasant to be struck, even for a minor slight?Yes, that's how society is regulated. That's my personal opinion, but I think too many people, especially middle-aged and women, have gotten too accustomed to acting like douches with no repercussion. The other problem is uppity faggots masquerading as tough guys arming themselves to the teeth with guns or machetes to avoid reasoning like a normal human, which is: "I don't want to get into a fight, so I'll simply act decently".
>>28209745>The technology is nowhere near good enough to even be on the level of the average texting muttoid Stacy. The sudden rise you're seeing is simply "investors" losing patience and wanting to profit as soon as possible.Waymo gets into far less accidents than human drivers right now, and that's entirely non-freeway driving.
>>28209745>You're thinking of your retarded liberals.any attempt to actually lock up and keep crazies (reminder: they're mostly homeless, "people of color," immigrants, etc) off of public transportation will be met by VEHEMENT opposition from modern day socialists. hate to break it to you but your pseudoreligion has evolved since 1910 and class-only socialism is obsolete and "problematic"
>>28209763>hate to break it to you but proper socialism is dead for good in the USAYeah I know. Then maybe instead ofsaying you want to lock them up you could try saying you want to build "reformation sites" where they can be remade into productive members of society. Though I've seen some stuff on how the organizations created to "combat homelessness" have become entrenched bureaucracies. So good luck I suppose.
>>28209715Those are Basketball-Americans trying to ride the outside of subway cars and rightfully getting ACK'd.
>>28209683>What happened?Neo liberal sissy faggots like the guy ITT yammering on about self driving cars and being shit scared of other people happened.>inb4 YOU'RE LE LUDDITEYes, to a degree. I believe this senseless chase of ultimate conveniency in every aspect of life is not going to lead to anything good, both removing any kind of SOVL from life by removing most of the manua human input as well as the trillions of sociopolitical implications.That being said, self driving cars are okay (although I'd never trust a machine over my own inputs but I'm sure there are those who would) but the fact of the matter is, when the technology eventually gets there, they're going to mandate all nu cars being self driving pods and outlaw people actually driving their cars, killing this hobby once and for all. There's probably an above 80% chance of this happening unless another Hitler pops up somewhere and turns all zoomers into soap because we're predominately liberal and they're eventually going to reach the age when they become important politicians with their rinky dink ideas.
>>28209734Self driving cars are gay, jewish, and cringeIt's just the worst of all worlds in 90% of cases
>>28209786if i could sleep listening to ASMR on my commute to work or just lay down in my car using my laptop while sight seeing as i go on a road trip.that'd be fucking peek personal luxury. like having a private jet.
>>28209737Shut the fuck up its pretty fucking clear line in reality you fucking retard
>>28209790History has proven it's not.
>>28209683The car went from something which saved you time, to something which causes you to spend more time and money (to the jews) to do something you should just able to walk to.Simple as
>>28209795You are fine until you snap and then you are locked up away from the rest of society. You gave it a good try but you cant handle it. So GOODBYE and good riddanceeasy fag
>>28209798Just implement China's social credit system. its your best bet at trying to control and monitor "crazies" and remove them from society before its too late. if you wait until they "snap" then it doesn't matter. they've already killed someone.
>>28209798You posted the n-word on 4chan, so you get locked up.
>>28209683>utopia>a bunch of fucking niggers are there
>>28209737For example, when I used to live in WA, whenever I visited Seattle there were always homeless people doing "interpretive dances" in moving traffic. That would be a good criteria to start with.
>>28209788Peak personal luxury is a mid-high end 70's yachtEngaging enough to not get bored driving, but not so engaging that it kicks your ass every morning on that one road (you know the one)Comfortable enough to relax, unareodynamic enough to roll down the windows without buffering. Peak commute kino.
>>28209849>Peak personal luxury is a mid-high end 70's yachtYou keep forcing this meme in every thread you can mate, it's tiring. Landyachts are slow, lumbering yet guzzle fuel like a race team. They're huge and heavy, yet cramped. They're loaded with ornaments yet ugly. They're nothing more than the 70's version of "luxury SUVs".
>>28209880But autism
>>28209683The suburban experiment failed. Time to move on.
>>28209880not nearly as tiring as the retarded shitty jeet truck meme like 28202972 being forced.
>>28209982>>28202972
>>28209683People got poor in general, cars got expensive in general. Most people are stupid, so forcing broke idiots to drive creates the dangerous and boring traffic congestion. It's an ugly wakeup to reality and urbanists are shouting out solutions before we hit critical mass.
>>28209683>2020s utopiasThis retard has bought the WEF propaganda The goal is for you to suffer with no mobility options
>>28209704how the fuck will walkable cities ever work in big spread out countries like usa cad and australia? Its fucking retarded!
>open up /o/>get anti-car pro-WALKABLE CITY PUBLIC TRANSIT BIKES TOFU AND KALE BEYOND MEAT thread???
>>28209715The train itself isn't what kills people, it's being locked in a room with a murderer with police willfully avoiding responsibility to stop them
>>28209683>1950's utopiasSpeculated by private illustrators, writers, and industry experts based on trends and theory>2020's utopiasPropaganda developed by WWF owned NGOs that push an idea so they can extract more wealth from the population
>>28209741I mean that's a natural conclusion for them to make, they'd be at the highest risk of being interres
>>28209751Okay how about I fight you with this knife I stole because you dissed my girl by looking at her
>>28209683>What happened?Europeans invaded America
>>28210338Those damn pandas
>>28210251all pre-world war two american cities were "walkable" by today's standards before the spread of suburbia in the 1940sthe US also had the world's largest rail and streetcar network at the timeask yourself how they managed to achieve that with far inferior technology and far fewer people than today - it all comes down to political willpower and interests
>>28210998Suburbs are perfectly walkable. You're just fat and lazy
>>28210251The fuck are you talking about? Melbourne is great to get around without a car because of the tram network.
>>28209739Stupid brainless bitch self driving car is very intelligent and all accident with them is cause by stupid driver touching control and forcing crash.
>>28209880>They're huge and heavy, yet cramped.So you're 430 pounds?
>>28211040>hellbourneoh yeah walkable into niggers and getting muggedevery other city is SHIT to commute around no monorail or trams (they did have them but they where gotten rid of) escooters are also shit
>>28211071What they took from Sydneysiders was a crime, and they covered it up with that fucking opera house.http://www.tundria.com/trams/AUS/Sydney-1947.php
In 1950 they didn't predict that there would be almost 300 million cars in the US in 2020. Those "cities of the future" always showed light traffic, as if only 100k people lived in LA or NY.
>>28209704You just need to remove non-whites.
>>28209683the US population literally doubled
>>28209704i feel like this would work perfectly fine in a place like kennesaw where almost everyone has a gun, and some people don't mind openly carrying it on their backs
>>28209982>this forced shit is tiring>huhhhh how about this other forced shit????Okay.
>>28210349>knife jobber>ever being a threatLol, lmao even.
>>28210998But anon think of the (((fiduciary responsibility)))!!!!!>>28211015Lazy bad faith kike.
>>28211586whoops, there goes your carteroid artery. hope the cement is comfy
>>28211078my grandad invented the glue that holds the tiles on the masonic shithouse lol
I think this walkable city shit is a meme in the literal sense, a bunch of people heard it from some "thought leader" and started parroting itthat said, >>>/n/ faggots
>>28209683>>28209704tldr negros dont allow us to have a functioning society. I would love to have a walkable city where my car just takes me out to the countryside once a week. but im gonna get stabbed to death
>>28209683where does the ambulance go in the walkable city version
>>28212441Nothing nicer than looking at your odometer and knowing every single number on it was for leisure. Daily drivers are a scam.
>>28212466based ive put over a million hoon ks on my shitboxes barely 500km for work LOL
>>282096831950s utopias also included things like pedestrian walkways all along and above every street, crossing very frequently. But it turned out no one wanted to build that because elevated platforms cost more than a ground level road. >>28209739Well, not exactly. The issue with self driving cars is actually that they might work TOO well, and be really really annoying to pedestrians and other drivers, (but not quite dangerous) whenever they don't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=040ejWnFkj0
>>28212451The white path.
>>28209683Starting in the 1960s, leftists began moaning and howling about how cars and suburbs and freeways were racist and anti-poor, so we've spent the last 60 years trying to destroy the groundwork postwar society was built on.
>>28209730Debunked.
