What is the most reliable vw golf generation?
>>28209905Mk3 because it's the last super basic one. The only thing that kills those things is rust.
>>28209907I live in a dry country so that's not an issue
>>28209905Mk4 SDI has a good balance of sheer reliability and availability of parts.
>>28209905most reliable is mk2by farit beats all other generations when it comes to reliabilitymk3 is not far behind
mk2 w tbibetter steel than mk3
>>28209905MK2s and MK4s will outlive this earth.MK3s are solid but die to rust.MK5s and MK1s are okay.Everything else is garbage.This is all assuming you buy the ones with the right engine.
>>28210052What is better the mk4 or the mk2?
>>28210058Electrical fuckery or old vacuum line fuckery, pick your poison.
>>28210063I think i'll take the vacuum line since this piece of crap country still have the mk4 for 7000 dollars used
>Mfw my family had a mint condition mk3 vr6 and sold it right before I got my license because it chugged too much gas>This was 10 years ago so they sold it for less than 3k
>>28210058Are you from the Balkans? If not then I would imagine most of the MK2s wherever you live are either rotted shitboxes or just recently restored and cost too much for what they are.If you are Balkanese, then it's mostly down to preference I guess. MK2 Golfs are old and if you aren't okay with driving something slow as fuck and without power steering or any more modern comforts then steer clear of it. If you do decide on a MK2 then go for the 1.6 Diesel engine. I believe that's the most reliable one but don't take my word for it and dig through some forums.MK4s on the other hand are relatively easy to find in cleaner condition and the 1.9TDI engine has practically legendary status so you know what to expect.
>>28210075mfw it's 2025 and they are still being sold for more than 3K dollars
>>28210068It's the easier option to work on for sure, but since it's way older it's gonna have more age-related problems.Still, extremely well-documented and supported, a good way to learn to wrench.
>>28210079Thanks for the advice but i live in north africa
>>28210083Yeah really good if it still didn't cost over 3k
>>28210085Then you'd probably be better off going with the newer MK4. The car culture over here has entirely revolved around the MK2 for the past 30+ years so it's pretty easy to find a MK2 in solid condition for like a 1000€ even in 2025. I doubt that's the case anywhere else even in really poor countries.
>>28210085My condolences
>>28210095It's a nice advice except the fact that the mk4 cost 7k where the average pay with a deplomat is 300
>>28210103Ah nevermind, I didn't see the screencap.>2800€ for a MK2 GolfThat's crazy. What's your budget and what cars can you find within your budget? There must have been something that was imported in droughts back in the 90s and 2000s.
>>28210112Right now still no money just trying to get informations firstalso we used to get cars imported from western europe for cheap until the shitty goverment banned it around 2014
Germany here, Mk2 Golfs are honestly the oldest beater cars you still see on the road on the regular basis. There were also a fair amount of 190E and Audi 80 because I'm from the south, but those mostly disappeared/became weekend cars
>>28210211danke, anonymer Typ, looks like the MK2 is the best choice
>>28209907>Mk3 because it's the last super basic oneYou've clearly never owned a MKIII.
>>28209924>most reliable is mk2>by farThis hands down. They also had the best engines, the 16v, the g60, the vr5, the 2.9 vr6...
>>28210415so what's the best engine for the mk2?
>>28210052>MK4s will outlive this earth....but their power windows and cupholders and trunk latches won't work.>MK3s are solid but die to rust.Everyone who says this is a liar. Sure they rust, but the OBDI and OBDII version are both electrical nightmares, and absolutely fall apart suspension-wise every 30,000 miles.If you spend a year redoing everything on the car, including relays and switches and engine wiring, and replacing everything with $$$ then yeah, they are reliable, but you also can't flash the ECUs without tons of equipment and a PROM programmer.They are also notorious oil leakers, I've actually seen cars dumping a quart A DAY when they were less than a year old back in the 90s. Enjoy changing your intermediate shaft seal. That's a fun job.They were also one of the 1st VWs to introduce stretch bolts and phenolic parts, and the 020 was about the most pointlessly complicated manual trans in history. The MKIII auto transmissions were also junk, eating valve bodies at 20,000 mile intervals.Honestly, if it weren't for the ABA 2.0 being basically bulletproof, and the modular nature of the car sharing MKII and MKIV parts they would all be gone.
>>28210075>This was 10 years ago so they sold it for less than 3kIt was probably me that bought it. I snatch up every MKIII I find.
>>28210430>mk2Originally? the 1.8 gas was a beast and revved to heaven. other wise the 16v or the 1.9 diesel are close contenders.Retrofitted? 2.0 ABA block with a 16v head, or a 1.8 with a crossflow ABA head and a diesel stroker crank.
>be a mk3>Odometer resets to 100k km if you drive past 300k
>>28209905mk5
>>28210408My dad's had a B4 Passat (mechanically the same thing) for the last 20+ years and that thing's been dead solid, other than when the crank position sensor went out.
>>28211203Passats are not Golf/Jettas, and they were usually built in Brazil or Germany instead of Mexico.
>>28211335Drivetrain- and electronics-wise they're basically the same thing. Even the chassis has a fair bit of overlap (outside the B1/B2 and B5 generations).
>>28211408>>28211335Although adding to this, to be fair, I think my dad's was built in Germany.
>>28211408>electronics-wiseTotally different car. Passats are closer to Audis with their relay madness. Different ECUs than golf/jetta, different fuel pumps, different switches, etc.>Even the chassis has a fair bit of overlapNo, totally different lower control arms and spindles, different rear torsion beam, different steering rack, different everything. Even the rotors on a vr6 passat are different from a vr6 golf/jetta. They also have different subframes most of the time. Pretty sure even the hood latches are different. I know the pedals and steering columns and fuel pumps are different, as are the door latches. It's a totally different car, but yes, they do use the same engines and transmissions.
My mk4 would've lasted til the heat death of the universe but muh co2 measures werent green enough for our overlords so i had to give it awayPersonally i like the mk2 and mk4 the most based on looks, might get a mk2 just for fun
Mk5. Picrel is my 2.5L
>>28209905All of them, as long as it's got a N/A motor. Any 2.0/2.5 VW from the last 25-30 years is guaranteed to have a bulletproof drivetrain for instance. Diesels too by default. Cosmetics are another story entirely, things like door panel fabrics and headliners love to wear out.
By all measures, the Mk 7 generation. Despite the increasing amount of tech, and despite the water pump failure issue. Avoid any VW with an opening sunroof if you can.
>>28212115I went to the wreckers today looking for a steering wheel for my 06 Beetle and its wild how all the jettas steering wheels were fucked up at the top. Like do jetta owners hold the wheel in any other location!?Settled on this leather wheel in the end, seemed like the car belonged to a cocoa_butter-american since its worn but still properly moisturized.
>>28212135>VW from the last 25-30 years is guaranteed to have a bulletproof drivetrain for instance. Diesels too by default.The 24v VR6 and the early VR5 (NOT THE MKIV 2.5L) loves to eat cheap timing chains and the diesels have a tendency to snap the pulley side of the crank inside the block if you haul on it because the OEM pulley is like over 9000 lbs on the diesels.All ABAs (1st gen 2.0L) will leak oil.
MK2 1.8 8V then MK4 2.0 8V
>>28212487>MK4 2.0 8VHow do you do fellow AEG enjoyer.
>>28212115>Picrel is my 2.5LBased 5cyl. Have you changed your oil filter housing manifold yet?
>>28210082Some VW cultists in the Balkans price the used Polo Mk5 at 6000 euros
>>28209905mk5 1.9 tdi
>>28213342>9200 euros for a 2011 polo mk5i think i need to mention that salaries here are way worse than the balkans i'm talking 300/500 euros is the average with a diplomat
7 GTI TCR 2 door my beloved
>>28213342I haven't seen a NA spec mkIII Golf Variant for sale for under $15000 in my entire life.
>>28213509gotta thank genZ kids who overrate cars espacially JDM's
>>28213356is this morocco?dont you guys manufacture dacias?surely, they must be cheap asf over there right?
>>28213522Manufacture them YESCheap NOThis is a 2007 model and cost around 6000 euros
>>28213528damn you guys are cooked
>>28213528That's fucked, didn't they cost like 7-8000 brand new
What about a Festiva, Pride or Mazda 121, I forget whether it is Morocco or Tunisia where they are common. I would also suggest a Daewoo Matiz and Suzuki Alto/Daewoo Tico.
>>28214662>>28214701>didn't they cost 7k or 8k brand new?I think so but dacia's are overrated here due to low taxes and parts availability, honda civic's are cheaper then dacia's here>What about a Festiva, Pride or Mazda 121, I forget whether it is Morocco or Tunisia where they are common.I think Tunisia because i don't there cars here just french shitboxes
>>28209905as citizen of shithole called eastern jurop (all you faggots quit acting that poland is central eu) i frequently experience shitboxesand the most reliable golfs are MK2, then MK4, MK3 ale nearly all dead, the rest is shit
>>28214811if easter europe is a shithole, i don't know what north africa is
>>28214789>French shitboxesI do not know much about them, because I am a burgerstani, but what are the prices of Renaults from the 1990s, could be in your price range. I am sure a Euro can chime in concerning French cars.
>>28214811Hill street Blues moment.
>>28210453>>282104151.9, 2.3 and 2.9 are all swaps for god's sake
>>28212164>Avoid any car with an opening sunroof if you can.FTFYWhy people want to deal with extra seals boggles my mind
>>28214811The MK1 is a great car. We still have them float around from time to time instead of rot out from wet climates. That first gen 1.5 diesel might be anemic, but that engine is the easiest thing i've ever worked on.
>>28214817> i don't know what north africa isAnything east or south of Italy is a war zone.Don't even.
>>28215027Morocco is not really a warzone more like a place where it's resources is being taken for free by france and a bit of spain and being garded by a royalty dictatorship which you can't even talk about them but fuck them this is 4chan.
>>28214998>4000 euros for 1993 car and aa 3000 euros for a MK2 golfMorocco is a joke
>>28215054That's actually not that bad, anon. I checked marketplace for Golf IIs in my area (leafland) and the cheapest running and driving one was a beat up rusty heap 1.6 diesel asking ~18000 of your currency. The one in your listing looks much cleaner though.
>>28215104you have a good point anon, retro cars are more expensive in western countries but you have to take the salary to perspective, i don't know what country you live in but here buying this mk2 need around 5 to 10 years of saving to buy it without debt
Oh LAWDhttps://www.kijiji.ca/v-autos-camions/drummondville/volkswagen-jetta-mk2-1991-street-or-drag-car/1707555565https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/ottawa/golf-mk2-vr6-turbo/1706888407
>>28209905Prolly mk4 with the 1.9sdi
>>28215110Yeah you guys are kinda cooked
>>282151223 months of a teacher salary to buy a french shitbox made in 80s, yeah looks like were the next egypt
>>28215130How difficult would it be to buy a car in France and then drive it to wherever you live?
>>28215017Correct. B2s got the 2.2 I5 badged as a Quantum in the US. I've seen them swapped into mk2s, and they are sometimes referred to as VR5s, but vr5s were actually late 90s and are closer to 2.5l i5s from the mk5 and up.Some people also treat corrados as mk2s, which would make the g60 and vr6 technically a viable engine, but it's still a swap.I don't think I've ever seen a North American 2.9 vr6.
>>282151762 things, first you need to cross the Strait of Gibraltar and then the moroccan goverment would fuck you in the ass with taxes to the level that taxes may be more expensive than the car
