>Trump says he might cut emissions standards by 25%Are we getting V6 sedans back or no? 2023 was the last year any V6 Sedan outside of Lexus was made
He needs to get rid of CAFE altogether along with the bullshit EV subsidies but he'll probably just end up fucking to Jewlon and the money lizards
>>28215361*cucking
>>28215295Bring back Pop ups. Get classics off smog testing. Cripple the insurance Jew and the electronic nannies that have resulted. Allow manufacturers to produce true sports cars uncucked by modern limitations.
>>28215361elon has lost the mandate of heaven after crashing out on twitter multiple times in a row.
>>28215361If CAFE standards were scrapped completely, every vehicle on the road would be a 10mpg SUV or crossover. Those are the vehicles most people want, so that’s what manufacturers would make. Very few people want a sedan. Proof: sedans exists but the best selling vehicles are trucks, SUV’s, and crossovers. If people wanted sedans they could buy sedans. Inb4 Model Y (it’s a crossover and you can’t convince me otherwise). CAFE standards didn’t result in giant vehicles. People wanted giant vehicles so the standard was changed.
>>28215406people would want sedans if they were $30k and had 500hp NA V8s.
>>28215295Still not buying a nucar until they give me an option to leave out the 6 billion computers and nannies and driving aids and gaybs (I'm never buying a nucar)
>>28215406I like when I get to look down into shorter cars and see all their shit just lying around in the seat.
if cafe standards get killed where am i gonna find a good coffee?
>>28215406>it's just PURE COINCIDENCE that commercial vehicles get looser emission standards and larger vehicles get looser emission standards and then everyone ended up buying the largest commercial vehicles they could find that come with passenger vehicle comfort featuresFace it buddy there's a correlation here - emissions standards drove people towards larger vehicles with worse emissions. (typical government)
>>28215423so why does this also happen in countries where CAFE doesn't exist?
>>28215442Specifically which?
>>28215442they want americans to buy their cars and they're not gonna spend the money to make more cars for less customers
>this threadHaha, bahahaha.Yeah we need to go back to the 1890s with no corporate control, pollution rampant, 70 hour labor job work weeks, kids in the factories, and all those dumb poors dying at 55 from toxic exposure.Who gives a fuck about a township 50 miles down from the industrial watershed, they dont make me money.No controls no restrictions, its bad for business! Dont you like winning? China does it and they're beating the hell out of us (please ignore the fake gdp numbers, fake population numbers, absolutely nonexistant quality control, their massively fake housing apartment block investment market.) China is winning don't you get it?!China says "lol no more rare earth exports for you!" which means all the processing pollution we've scuttled off to the third world for decades will need to be done on our own ground again. Remind me again what the movie Erin Brokovitch was about.No, anons, people need to be policed heavily or these toxic wastedumps will kill you when your kids need you the most and your grandkids will be stuffed full of cancer by the time they're born.Get fucking real.But, on topic entirely,>>28215295Oh yawn, more 300hp v6s like we've had since 2004.
>>28215446the hilux for example, is the best selling vehicle in many countries. it would be easier to list countries that don't gravitate towards trucks and SUVs.
>>28215449"perhaps there are too many regulations" and "i want to live in a victorian workhouse" are not the same sentence.
>>28215450Did you think those countries don't have emissions standards then?
>>28215449I think you're all out of strawmans to beat
>>28215456
>>28215295>2023 was the last year any V6 Sedan outside of Lexus was madeAcura TLX, Cadillac CT 4 V BW, CT 5, CT 5 V, Genesis G70/80, Audi A8, RS 5, S4, Panamera. Most of BMW's lineup can be optioned with an inline 6. Chargers can still be found new despite ending production over a year ago and the new one will have a TT straight 6 at some point.
>>28215449Government:>"Cars are producing TOO MUCH EMISSIONS and that's bad for people! We need to LIMIT THE AMMOUNT OF EMISSIONS THEY CAN MAKE!!!"Guy:>"what about big commercial vehicles which are designed to tow heavy shit? They need big engines which produce a lot of emissions...."Government:>"those are allowed to produce extra emissions"Everyone:>buys big commercial vehicles with big engines which produce lots of emissionsGovernment:>WE DID IT REDDIT!!!!!!!!!!!You have to at the very least admit that the Government does not always produce the results it desires.
>>28215459I accept your concession.
>>28215450there is a very good reason companies pour an assload of money into marketing and advertising
>>28215449Sir this isn't reddit and no one here is going to give you upvotes or gold
>>28215452>>28215458>>28215469>>28215470>not stopping a problem >before it starts by approaching a hyperbolic end resultRemind me again why we brush our teeth every day.
>>28215477Weird to try to shame anons out of an opinion by implying that they only hold said opinion because reddit would shame them for not having it.
>>28215482>mandate that everyone must brush their teeth 10 times before bed or suffer the punishment of eating a bag of candy instead>tooth decay becomes worse>"WE DID IT GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>>28215406>if we scrap cafe we'll have exactly what we have now
>>28215508wow, you understood the point. pat yourself on the back.
>>28215406Big trucks resulted from a combination of:>21st century anxiety>cargo-culting of mid 20th century rural lifeAnd, this is the big one:>every sedan turning into a cuckbox with no visibility. Trucks became just straight up better and were made into land yachts as a result. Now trucks are high status, and sedans are low, similar to how a thunderbird was higher status than a pinto in the 70's. How do we fix this? Require trucks to be more basic. This way, real truck guys can get their real trucks, and karen can go back to her ford LTD. Trucks will eventually become low class, and thus, sedans high class
>>28215527Trucks have always and will always be low class. Too scared to roll around in a 535i.
>>28215514yeah but if we scrap it it'll stop being illegal to build coupes and sedans so it has to fuckin go.
>>28215295It wasn't emissions that killed the sedan. Sedans died because they're useless.
>>28215406yeah dude gas is free
>>28215406back in the 70s you could buy a v8 sedan for the equivalent of around $20k in trump-bucks the cheapest v8 sedan was the now discontinued charger @ $44ka decent spec accord will run you the same as a v8 F150
>>28215573nevermind, you were retarded and didn't understand the point at all.
>>28215367>Get classics off smog testingAnon, I hate to tell ya, but that is a state thing, some states have it, some don't. Trump ain't gonna fix it. I agree though, any car 30-40 years or older should be fucking exempt from smog testing. Can damn near be impossible to find parts for the emissions systems on old cars.
>>28215406>10mpg SUVBased>10mpg crossoverhow would that even happen
>>28215423That’s cute. You’re a funny kid.What actually happened:>people wanted to buy big fuck SUV’s>manufacturers couldn’t meet customer demand because of CAFE standards>the automotive industry lobbied congress to relax the standards>”light trucks” were given a special status>every fed 4 cylinder tiny SUV is now a “light truck”Later…>CAFE standards are even more strict, as they are constantly pushing for better efficiency year after year>manufacturers can’t meet demand and fuel standards (again)>they lobby congress (again)>outside area of the body panels enters the equation so people can buy crossoversIt is 100% about customer demand. This ain’t complicated. If people wanted fuel efficient, small cars, the standard wouldn’t have been changed. Manufacturers don’t only make big cars. What kind of retarded bullshit even is this?
>Trump says
>>28215589People absolutely do not give a shit about gas prices. They’ll complain, sure, but it doesn’t guide their decision making.
>>28215295why would you want v6 fwd cars when a fwd inline 5 cylinder would be easier to work on?
>>28215940Why would you want fag-wheel drive?
>>28215941why not? i just want a traversly mounted nissan 5 cylinder in a pathfinder
>>28215406Gimme a hummer hybrid that has all the ev stuff from the new one and a 10-liter v10
or a kia telluride with a 5 cylinder, no more stupid spark plug jobs that are as expensive as a subaru's
>>28215944You literally don't like cars; why are you even here?
>>28215406LAND YACHT SEDANS Enough of the FWD 2.2 L EcoCuck Kias and Hyundais. What people want is this. A Ford / Chevy RWD sedan, long and low, minimum 4 L engine, minimum 6 cylinders.And make it tow, so normies can't get hung up about the two times a year they use a pickup to actually haul something. Picrel has a towing capacity of 5000 lbs, and if Ford/whoever let me engineer it, I promise 10000 lbs towing and still keep the car look like this.Also you must make them "luxury" and make sure to have expensive options, so Karen can buy it and still feel pompous.
>>28215961hyundai can rebadge a genesis as a kia and fill that niche, but won't because america won't use foreign cars for police fleets
hyundai should buy dodge just to make police fleet rwd cars that are rebadged a genesis
>>28215961What advantage does a trunk have over a truck bed with a tonneau cover?
>>28215361>Jewlon and the Money LizardsWhat a name for a band!
>>28215392Elon is the grandson of a Technocrat madman. It's only natural he'll try to make that dystopia a reality
>>28215578Cuckovers are just tall hatchbacks. That's not precisely useful, safe, or gas-saving.
>>28215295>backNo, at best cars that were slated to be discontinued will get a few more years. I think the best case scenario for this will be the Charger and Ram getting the Hemi again, otherwise I think very little will change. Chevy probably would've kept making the Camaro with this news if they hadn't ended production in July.
>>28215992A tall hatchback is magnitudes more useful than a sedan. Try hauling a dog with passengers in the back seat with a sedan. Try bringing home a 90'' TV in a sedan. A taller vehicle will always be more safe than a lower one especially when it's driving in a sea of tall crossovers and trucks. Gas saving is a wash but people don't give a shit about that. Sorry but sedans are just a waste of metal. Good riddens.
>>28215652is the point that you are a faggot?
>>28216002>Try hauling a dog with passengers in the back seat with a sedan.I'm not putting a dirty damn dog in my car or no dirty ass hoes friends around.my 13 year old dog rides shotgun in the beater only.
>>28215975this isnt a cocksuckin contest on what's the most practical, practical cars are the ugliest fucking eyesores ever, why do you aspire to own a groundskeepers cuck-truck, do you want to wave his weedwacker around like him?Why don't you want to be a fucking race car driver, are you mindraped to be a disgusting beaner subsuding on slop?
>>28216006Hmm here's a better example for you. Just think about how many anime pillows and funko toys you could fit in a crossover vs a sedan. >>28216013You know almost every house in a wealthy neighborhood (in the first world) has a pickup truck in the driveway or in the garage, right? I'm not too sure why you're talking about race cars.
>>28216027you are a beaneryou have dog shit-crust and hair in your carpetyour car is ultimately boring and only serves the purpose of ferrying you to and from miseryyou hear 'race car' as a foreign concept because you have cucky sucky cum brain diseaseyou cant comprehend having a fun car.you will never be a woman.
>>28216039Are you implying that shitty Sebring/Taurus abomination in that pic is good or fun? No wonder you people still live in the dark ages.
>>28216046idk what the fuck you're on about, i dont defend fwds or chryslers.
>>28216065Weren't you defending this thing? >>28215961
>>28215295>mightJust like the last time he was in charge? You will buy the 1 ton pickup truck as a daily driver.
>>28215367honestly, pop-ups are overrated. i like the novelty, but ultimately they are added complexity when you can just have the lights inset and covered by a clear body
>>28216488>you can just have the lights inset and covered by a clear bodywe have that on every car retard. I want my car to look like it doesn't have headlamps.
I want tiny truckI want government officials to disappear in a bloody way until I can get tiny truck
>>28215992The plug in rav 4 is the best car made today. Also most sought after
>>28216002Suburbaburger hands wrote this
>>28215295No, just 25% more Indians lmao
