So, what's the catch?
>>28216312Red Snapper
>>28216312>220hp>4000lbs>worse than a pickup truck fuel economy>worse than a pickup truck weight distribution>Subaru reliability
Low redline, open diffs and tiny brakes if you don't get a $45k tS or TRGet a base model, retune + exhaust, aftermarket diffs meant for the VA WRX fit, and if you get TR spindles you can fit the VA STi 6 pistons and rotors without modifications.
No wing. Gay. Looks like a camry with a hood scoop. Just looks wrong. That boy ain't right
>>28216328>Under the WRX's hood is a turbocharged 2.4-liter flat-four-cylinder engine. Its 271 horsepower and 258 pound-feet of torque routeTry again nocar faggot.
>>28216328But none of that is true, you literally cannot find another car like it without paying $20k more for a Golf R/GR Corolla or $60k for a M340xi.The new one gets mid-high 20s MPG and holds 600whp on a stock bottom end with ARP headstuds.
>>28216333271, oof. That's less than v6 muscle cars from 10 years ago
>>28216312It's ugly inside and out
>>28216338That's less than 4 cylinders from 20 years ago. Subaru goes backwards with every generation. Sad.
>>28216338>>28216341>I need at LEAST 500hp
>>28216344The average vehicle has 400+hp. It's not unreasonable for an almost 4000lb "sports car" to have at least that much.
>>28216347>Meanwhile the average vehicle Apparently everybody drives race cars.
>>28216344Cope, the new wrx makes less horsepower than a dodge hothatch from Bush's first term
>>28216358What are the top 3 best selling vehicles in North America/the world? They all have standard engines with over 400hp.
the death of the evo meant subaru didnt have to try anymore. now theyre bringing back a limited 500 unit TSI release that only comes in a CVT. it's actually over
>>28216361Yeah but that sucked even compared to the 2008 WRX which was one of the shittiest ones in Subaru history.It was a one trick pony which is why you don't see them on the roads anymore (seriously, when's the last time you saw a Caliber? All the late 00s FWD Dodges disappeared off the road even Darts are rare)https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a15388392/2007-mazdaspeed-3-vs-2008-subaru-impreza-wrx-2008-volvo-c30-t5-comparison-tests/
>>28216312Imagine if they never stopped making a car from 2005 in the best and worst way possible.>>28216328>220hpVB makes ~245 - 260 at the wheels>4000lbs3300-3500lbs depending on trim an options>worse than a pickup truck fuel economy>worse than a pickup truck weight distribution>Subaru reliabilityAll of these are accurate>>28216338It also weighs up to 400lbs less than said V6 pony car.>>28216366>What are the top 3 best selling vehicles in North America/the world? They all have standard engines with over 400hp.400hp in a truck is nothing like 400hp in a car. And those engines aren't standard. The HO Hurricane, Ecoboost / 5.0 and L87 6.2 are all options. Discussion on normal cars that any one of you could buy but won't and instead complain about confuse me. Just go to the fucking dealer and test drive one.
>>28216347The average American is buying $50-70,000 pickups with 450hp V8s at 7.25% APR? No wonder everyone in this country is poor. Anyways #3 is the Rav4.>>28216368Subaru too busy extracting money from rich Japanese GenXers who would pay BMW money for a Subaru.It makes more sense when you find out the CVT WRX is insanely successful in Japan and they've had automatic STis since 2007 (GR A-Line) until the death of the car.
>>28216376The VB is ugly to me but I still like the WRX formula.
>>28216376I love lowering wrx at stoplights>t. BMW owner
>>28216312CVT, 1980's corvette fuel economy, and le heccin SCROONSLast point is just a given on every nucar in fairness
>>28216341Here's to the ones that we gotCheers to the wish you were here, but you'renot'Causethe drinks bringback all the memoriesOf everything we'vebeen throughToast to the ones here todayToast to the ones that we lost on the way'Cause the drinks bring back all the memoriesAnd the memories bring back, memories bring back you...
>>28216312transmission is kinda weak relative to the tuning potential of the enginemost trims have lame brakesthe shifter is like sifting through gravel
>>28216425How is it that Subaru have only managed to make one good transmission ever?
Golf 8.5 R + remap you idiot.
>>28216440strong trans = heavy gears = bad gas mileageif they put the STi trans in the VB it would get like 19mpg instead of 24, it's just not a viable product in [current year]
>>28216312>low mpg>plastic everything>turbocharged boxer engine just begging to blow up>CVT that doesn't have to beg, it just blows up>or tranual that makes you spill your beer while driving>no hatchback option so you have to drive a girl car
>>28216451subaru is also printing money making crosstreks foresters and outbackslike waiting lists and markups on crosstreks and outbacks they do not need to make the wrx, they can discontinue it and no one would notice. the production space + showroom space would go towards making more more $40,000 outbacks that boomers and genxers are fighting each other to buy and sell before they even hit the lot
>>28216451I hadn't thought of that, boxers have such garbage mpg to begin with I suppose it is extra hard to justify.
>>28216528its also mechanical 4wd that's on at all times so they have lots of parasitic draggolf r and gr corolla get better mpg because they're fwd until they detect wheelspin then the electromagnetic clutches engage in the rear diff. its a big reason why haldex was developed (better mpg for awd crossovers/small cars) the boxer issue is a factor but even the older FA wrxs got mid-high 20s mpg vs the EJ WRXs getting at best low 20s...direct injection was a game changer.
The giulia 4wd is the sti we deserve.
>>28216312It's a sedan that has awd but gets poor fuel economy. If that's what you're looking for, sure, it's a fine car.It's just not sporty. Not at all. If you think this is a sports car you are delusional.
>>28216334>The new one gets mid-high 20s MPG and holds 600whp on a stock bottom end with ARP headstuds.>HOLDS 600WHP>>>>>ON STOCK BOTTOM ENDMY SIDES
>>28216554https://www.instagram.com/p/CvvvcPZxF67/I rounded down
its gay
>>28216558>holds 600whp>blows up according to his own sourcekek okay retard
>>28216579>Was trying for 700whp>Let go after being ripped on for the whole year with 100s of passes >Still drove onto the trailerWhat's the issue, no lies found. They're happy all day long at under 500whp. They make 250-260whp bone stock so 2x that is pretty damn good. They'll add another 50whp from a tune alone and 100whp from tune and exhaust/tmic.Just acknowledge you're wrong and move on. Pic related is from 5 years ago.
>>28216596the guy you're talking to has no idea what he's saying man just ignore him and he'll find another thread to eek attention from
>>28216543Word. Probably not sti but way better than the WRX. More power, looks better, not much more expensive because no one buys alfas so massive discounts.
>>28216819enough power to have fun! get a squadra tune to fine tune this beautiful beast and it’s perfect. I mean, what other car in 2025 offers double wishies in the front and multi link in the rear for that amount of money? you are getting the full blown quadrifoglio chassis. amazing.
>>28216830Wish stellantis wasn't shit and offered an AWD qv. I'd upgrade but I have a 911 and don't need 2 rwd cars in the winter. Probably my last Alfa since stellantis is just going to use their shitty platform instead of Giorgio.
>>28216819You forgot to mention that is one of the most unreliable cars out there to the point you can get them for pennies.And no there is nothing you can say that will change that fact.
everyone will know you're a lesbian
Oil starving boxer engine. Otherwise good piece
>>28216872yep. these were all over my area for maybe six months and then they just vanished. haven't seen one for over a year now.
>>28216968Probably cause the leases ran out. FCA was desperate at one point and had dirt cheap leases before giving up.>>28216886These actually don't starve at all. They have a scavenge pump for the oil drain that forces oil from the passenger head back into the oil pan. FA20 WRXs have the same thing.I actually don't know why Subaru didn't do the same thing for the BRZs.>>28216819Unironically on the short list for me. I really like them. Not sure if I'd do a 2-3 year old Giulia Q2 with extended warranty or a new base WRX as a only car. Supposedly if you buy it from a Stellantis dealer it's eligible for the Mopar warranty and service pack.
>>28216312Driving perfection since 2004
>So, what's the catch?Endless female attention
>>28217222Why are they so slow and shitty to drive then?
>>28217291dykes don't count
>>28216819these have more stock power than a WRX but they are also heavier and more limited in tuningif you want an auto it's a much better choice than a CVT WRX though
>>28216312One of the defining cars of the USGPMT+ movement; simply terrible.
>>28216312Unlike the nocar retards who keep posting in this thread and can barely afford a 25 year old beater with 300k miles, the WRX post 2022 is actually a good car.Back in the day when Subaru jumped into the new engine they fucked up the oiling and it had horrible heating issues, plus leaking like a motherfucker because they used paste instead of a proper gasket. The post 2022 cars have fixed all those issues and now the old premium is the base model. If I have to mention things that arent that great that would be the brakes and the gasket for 2 reasons, 1) Subaru gave this car an engine that can easily be tuned for nice 350 WHP with no modificiations, be aware of the tranny because it doesn't like going higher than that, 2) If you don't beat the shit out of the car and you're a responsible owner, this car will easily go over 200k miles (there are WRX already over that) but you might need to replace the turbo and that's expensive, unless you wanna build the engine because it can go all the way up to 600-700 HP.In short, if you get a 2024 then you're good, stop listening to retards who keep regurgitating the same shit because the first cars had problems.
>>28217625Yes yes it's a good performance car but the black molding and the rear end look like absolute shit
>>28217625My cars are nicer and faster than yours. The wrx is a piece of shit. Cry about it little pussy.
>>28217662>good performance carIt's literally a fucking economy car lol and they're SLOW as FUCK
>>28217681KEK! A 2 decade old car is almost as fast as the USGPMT+ bullshit wrx on tires from 20+ years prior!Why can't subaru make good cars goddamn lol
>>28217669>>28217672>>28217709>no counter arguments>Still seethingYou got smoked by a WRX Timmy?
>>28217681Both are still slower than a Jeep around a track lol.
>>28217669>>28217709autistic FREAK
>>28217755What the fuck is a "wrx timmy?"
>>28217709>USGPMT+gay forced meme.
>>28217779It's not a "meme," it's just an all inclusive acronym for the cars currently being sold, and the cars that mostly get posted here in general. Mostly.
>>28217788>InclusiveKamala LOST faggot.
>>28217803Good. No usglets left behind
>>28217806You'll never fit democrat.
>>28217833How does one "fit democrat?"
And lol what the fuck are you even saying subarus are the official granola liberal dyke cars and I only see little vapefaggots and asian IT fags driving wrxs
>>28216312More boring in practice than in theory.
>>28216333>>28216334>>28216376>taking the bait
>>28217709>muh tireslol the m5 has a higher power to weight ration retardthe cobalt rapes that pos too kek
>>28218070>tires haven't changed in TWENTY (20) years!!!lolfun but um the reality of the situation is the E39 is the best sports sedan overall that there is, and wrxs and cobalts are GAY as FUCK
Head gaskets
>>28218079EJ25 issue.
