Only popular because millennials don't know what an inline 6 was unless it was in some Fast and the Furious movie.
>>28216360no it's a good strong motor
>>28216362All of the big 4 had great Inline 6's
>>28216360Let me guess; you’re a turbo barra fanboy?
>>28216362Its an outdated shitpiece. Literally weighs like a big block v8 while making 300hp>buh muh tunabilityits reliable but only when you leave it stock. when you make an engine produce twice or thrice its factory output youre wandering into the unknown. Whats the point of spending thousands on modding this ancient boat anchor when a fucking ls3 makes 400-500hp with factory warranty all while weighing much less and having no turbo lag? most importantly, the 2gayzee is like one of the least cost efficient methods of building horsepower. The motors themselves cost absurd money (imagine paying 6 grand for a used 30yo engine lmoa) and then you have to throw like 10-20k at it to upgrade everything for big horsepower. and then youre left with heavy ass unreliable shitheap that has huge turbo lag and sucks at everything. And even if you have a fetish for turbo straight sixes, the b58 is better at everything as well. 2JZ is basically an expensive toy for rich weebs with more money than common sense at this point.
>>28216628>Whats the point of spending thousands on modding this ancient boat anchor when a fucking ls3 makes 400-500hp with factory warrantyBecause people like different things, and v8's are fucking boring.
>>28216360Retarded thing to say, why do you think a Supra was used in the movie in the first place? I bet you also think AE86 became popular AFTER Initial D.
>>28216642post your engine
>>28216628It makes 400hp+ with the stock turbos and will still run for over 200,000km no problems.>throw like 10-20k at it to upgrade everything for big horsepowerAnd what would that "everything" be exactly? A new exhaust manifold and a large single turbo? Intercooler? Larger injectors? An ECU? The engine itself will handle 800hp without a sweat by just forcing more fuel and air into it. The only weak point is whatever gearbox is behind it.It's 2025 no one buys 2jzs to swap into things anymore. All the big power 2jz street builds are factory 2jz supras and aristos. The 1jz has been the JZ of choice for swapping into other cars for the last 10 years.
>>28216750>It's 2025 no one buys 2jzs to swap into things anymore.Sad times.
>>28216364>All of the big 4 had great Inline 6'sI used to think the GM 4200 was garbage after repairing a bunch of Trailblazers, but it's probably the best of the bunch at this point considering how little money it takes to hit high horsepower.I would still think it was junk if the Calvin guy from Grassroots didn't dedicate 5 years of his life to them:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeJ26hLa2Nk
>>28216750>A new exhaust manifold and a large single turbo5k+ unless its chinese garbage>Intercooler1.5k>larger injectorsaround 700-1500 a set>An ECU1.5k minimum>The engine itself will handle 800hp without a sweat by just forcing more fuel and air into it.Not for long. If youre messing with a 30yo engine a rebuild is a neccessity anyway. New forged pistons, besrings, gaskets and stuff is another 2k minimum without labor. So far were sitting at around 15k for everything (labor not included). What the fuck is the point if a new hellcat engine fully assembled with a warranty is the same price? A 620hp bbc assembled longblock by chevroelt performance is 17k if youre a fan of stupidly heavy engines, also comes with a warranty
>>28216850All those costs are gay and retarded, like you
>>28216850>What the fuck is the point if a new hellcat engine fully assembled with a warranty is the same price?Overall size, sound, power bands, turbo placement, transmission compatibility, etc. If you only look at price then yeah, V8 is the way to go for easy power. If you look at anything else, like the car, big block engines aren't always the answer.
>>28216862look, I understabd tgat youre underage and your knowledge of "tuner culture" mainly comes from instagram and tiktok, but do yourself a davor and google hiw much go fast parts actually cost, youll be greatly disappointed>>28216865>Overall sizeyoud be surprised how compact v8s can be>soundV8s rule, period>power bandsa high power 2jz would be awfully peaky and make zero power and torque at low rpms, v8s are much better in this regard. this is the reason why every one in formula drift uses v8s instead of muh jdm 2gayzees>turbo placementNo need for a turbo if your engine is built right, superchargers are an option for v8s too and thwyre far more compact>transmission compatibilitythe strongest tranny 2gayzees came from the factory is the getrag v160, those are considered unobtanium and cost upwards of 5k used, and tgose are still much weaker then, say, a t56 >If you look at anything else, like the carlmao, and what remarkable cars did the 2gayzee come in? a couple luxury sedabs and one "sportscar" as sporty as said sedans? american v8s at least can be found in actual performance cars like the corvette >big block enginesI wasnt referring to big blocks soecifically, I was talking about americam v8s as a whole and used bbc as an example of a stupidlt heavy engine (like the 2jz) that is far more powerful than the 2jz stock and with a warranty. If were talking about something like the good ol ls, those are far car lighter and more compact than the 2jz, despite having twice the displacement.
>>28216865>big block enginesNot every V8 is a big block.
>>28216950V8s can be super compact, but as every youtube project car where they stuff an LS into a miata, kei car, anything they all agree it just ends up with too much power and the front end is laughably heavy. Also, get over yourself, we get it V8s are fantastic. Sometimes people want to take something unusual that isn't a V8 and make bigger power for cheaper while still continuing the original heart and spirit of the car. A twin turbo V6 is simply going to be much more exciting than muh corbette vee ate! If you're too autistic to see why tuners, racers, and general enthusiasts don't automatically do an LS swap, maybe cars isn't the hobby for you.
>>28216974>Not every V8 is a big block.I get it, but a 6.2liter v8 is typically going to be bigger than say, a 4.0L I6 or 2.8L i4. To suggest they're an easy swap is stupid because that hellcat v8 is simply going to be bigger than many, if not most engines. >inb4 muh redneck definition of a big block says its not a big block!I know its early morning in parts of the US, but can we not default to some boomer's arbitrary definitions of stuff?
>>28216950>If were talking about something like the good ol ls, those are far car lighter and more compact than the 2jz, despite having twice the displacement.The 5.7L GenIII hemis are under 500lbs, a Magnum 5.9l is under 550lbs, a big block chevy or mopar is around 650lbs.For reference, a 225 slant six is 475lbs and a honda B series is just over 400 lbs, both are around 100hp.Bmw m50s and m52s are 400+ lbs, m60 and m62s are 500lbs, s85s are 550lbs, n52s are 400+ lbs, n54 are daamn near 500lbs.So you caan EASILY get 200+ more hp and equal massive amounts of torque for around 100lbs of weight OR LESS compared to any other engine. Modern American v8 swaps just can't stop winning because their footprint is smaller andd they make more power.I mean seriously, an n54 weighs about the same as a Hemi or LS and makes just over 1/2 the power stock.
>>28216982>and the front end is laughably heavy.Magical thinking. The LS is about the same weight as most 4 cyl.
>>28216998oh that explains why so many miata owners don't swap in an LS then. If theres no downsides why aren't they doing it?
>>28216983>I get it, but a 6.2liter v8 is typically going to be bigger than say, a 4.0L I6 or 2.8L i4.No. It will be shorter than the i6 and width wise it will be the same footprint as the i6/i4 with side intake manifold.A 6.0l LS is almost the saame weight as a 4.8Ls. A 6.4l hemi is almost the same weight and dimension as a 5.7l hemi.If you are trying to make reliable power there is no reason not to swap in a modern efi pushrod v8.
>>28217005>If theres no downsides why aren't they doing it?Because all miata owners are faggots. How do you not know this?
>>28217006>V8 in the same footprint of a I4Just how much power are you blueballing your self to achieve that?
>>28217005bwcause to properly swap a 400hp engine in a car designed for 150hp is far expensive than you think. You need to upgrade the drivetrain, the cooling system, the brakes, the susepnsion and so on and costs add up quickly. see hwo much flyin miata charge for a turnkey ls swap
>>28217023Nigger there is a picture in this anons post: >>28216950>>28217027>bwcause to properly swap a 400hp engine in a car designed for 150hp is far expensive than you thinkIt's a $5000 swap unless you're doing brand new everything instead of rebuild/refresh, same as a proper turbo setup.
>>28217006>>28217027>If you are trying to make reliable power there is no reason not to swap in a modern efi pushrod v8.>bwcause to properly swap a 400hp engine in a car designed for 150hp is far expensive than you think.Again, why aren't more people swapping in 6L+ V8's then? Why on earth would anyone get a 2jZ engine to 1500 horsepower when they could've just tossed in a junkyard silvarado engine to make the same power for half the price? Why are Miata owners swapping in a Ford 2.5L 4cyl instead of a V8 if there are simply no compromises? Why aren't there more $500 copart chassis' getting LS's? If they're just so good, so cheap, zero downside, why on earth isn't everyone just swapping a big honkin torque machine into anything they just like? BRZ slower than a minivan? LS swap it. No manuels on nu-supra? LS swap it. Ford Maverick has anemic power? LS under the hood. Ford Coyote making 1200hp with either a twin turbo or supercharger? Nah, could've had 1800 horsepower on an LS! Afterall, its so cheap, reliable, and fits anywhere, right?
>>28216646The ae86 was the lowest tier underpowered shitbox that could plausibly fit in the narrative of the story. The entire point of the plot is look what this piece of shit relative to better cars can do when some extremely autistic person drives against retards.
>>28217076>Why are Miata owners swapping in a Ford 2.5L 4cyl instead of a V8 if there are simply no compromises?Because. They. Are. All. Faggots.
>>28216950are you 16 years old? Serious question. All your posts come off as autistic screeching and failing to understand that different people like different things. V8s can be awesome, especially high revving flat plane crank ones. So can peaky turbo inline 6 turbos, high revving NA small displacement 4 cylinders, turbo rotarys, supercharged V6s etc.
>>28217076>Why are Miata owners swapping in a Ford 2.5L 4cyl instead of a V8Because for an NC, this is nearly a bolt in swap for the cost of a junkyard Ford Fusion engine (plus ancillaries needed to swap the 2.0 Miata head onto that 2.5's block like gaskets) that gets you 30 more hp and way more midrange torque out of the box.
>>28217095Retard
>>28216642>v8's are fucking boring.How DARE youPost tits, stupid whore
>>28217128The last three are GAY as FUCK
>>28217098>Because. They. Are. All. Faggots.You type like one
>>28217403>le ebin motorsports record/dorifotoingIt was a 130 hp Toyota Corolla before the motor swap. Nearly every car besides the Cappuccino and Miata would be more capable driven to the same skill level.
>>28216628Every second engine in professional drift is a JZ, it's a well proven powerhouse in a package small and light enough to shoehorn into anything.
>>28217412a supercharged 3800 in the back of a Fiero isn't gay, nor is an FD. Post car.
>>28217436Found the miata owner.
>>28217793?
>>28217485Doubling down on retardation I see.>le>>>/reddit/
>>282169501300 for exhaust manifold 1000 for exhaust2000 for a turbo 600 for intercooler1000 for a haltech 700 for injectors There's a 700hp+ build. A reliable 600hp.Stock turbos can make 400hp and still ne dailyed reliably.There's a reason the engine is popular. You're just an idiot kid who thinks real life is forza where it's best to just v8 swap everything.
>>282167134.6l v8 and a 3.0l i6. I prefer the i6.
>>28218038>You're just an idiot kid who thinks real life is forza where it's best to just v8 swap everything.But v8 swaps are based, I LS swapped my Volvo 240 and it was easy
>>28218060Did you at least learn to drive properly before LS swapping? I remember you almost binned it off the side of a canyon.
>>28218060>proceeds to nearly drive it off a cliff
>>28216360I just want a slant six to put in my trug, please stop charging 10000 for rusted seized enginest. zoomzoom>>28218038everything LS or SBC is price gouged to fuck. love the honda K series for still being so cheap. you could build a record-setting K for what it costs to get a stock LS1
>>28218038You're easily dumping 20k+ into a 2J build nowadays. Its not a great swap. At this point just buy a 335i and build that out if you want a cheap 600hp turbo i6 car. No swapping or any other bullshit required.
>>28216996>a honda B series is just over 400 lbswith the transmission, axles, and ancillaries. Just the engine alone is under 300lbs
