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>>28234342
Because they actually try to make reliable cars and have the budget for it.
Other high-end brands don’t care because they know their customers are morons who’ll only buy based on brand prestige and shiny logos (just like me).

>>28234342
the actual answer is that they get people to come in every year for a service, because they give you a nice place to sit while they service your car.

>>28234342
That's what happens when the Japanese man builds something.

they make boring well constructed car

NA i4 mated to a cvt in ES is not very complex at all

>made in japan
>made by japanese
need I say more?

>>28234342
They shill. They shill everything, everywhere and recruit moronswho know nothing about the automotive industry into shilling along with them. Simple as.

>>28234429
>Because they actually try to make reliable cars and have the budget for it.
This is actually a good point. I call it privilege. The thing with toyota is, whenyou considerer their profitability, what offer in return is literally nothing much. With that much profit and privilege, they should never have recalls, and their shit should never be that ugly, or overpriced, or ugly, or made with such low tech relative to everyone else. When you consider the profitability of an automaker, vs their output, that's when you really see who is a shitlord and who isn't.
>tldr toyota motor is a relativly shit automaker

>>28234773
They should never have recall buyt they should always spearhead new untested and unpolished tech and they should favor form over function and they should sell cheap.

> Because they're profitable.

You're a retard.

>>28234789
Yea, the profitability to actual offering ratio is
S H I T
H
I
T

It's almost exclusively how I rate automakers desu

>tfw no GSF manly V8 croozer

Their reliability reputation comes from relatively overbuilt parts and japanese build quality before a time when you could have computer simulate parts breakdown against cost benefit to fail just outside of warranty.

>>28234807
>Their reliability reputation comes from
the past. A past most japanese automakers shared

Toyotas are shit right and have been increasingly shit for decades. Back then it was tissue paper headgaskets and sludge and oil burning for 30 years, now the engines just blow up in 1000miles from boost.
Try harder dipshit

>>28234816
>now the engines just blow up in 1000miles from boost
Pardon?

>>28234855
>people screech at Toyota and Lexus for using "outdated" powertrains forever
>they cave partly to screeching but mostly to regulations and install tiny displacement turbo engines like everyone else
>congrats, your Tundras, LX, and Sequoias are now landbarges powered by .2L ticking turbocharged timebombs
>timebombs detonate and ACK the engine

>>28234855
it's a bmw habib coping

>>28234861
That always happens when Toyota adopts new drivetrains.
They end up being unreliable at first, But finish being incredibly reliable.

well other car makers will make a garbage engine from the beginning and it will remain garbage until it's out of production

>>28234816
Nice reading comprehension, ESL.

>shitty 10 year old interior
>cheap parts
>mass made
>no soul
>no respect for customer
>toyota with new badge + leather for 5k extra

>>28234879
Unacceptable. toyota is the last to adopt new tech and they always fuck it up on the first try, even when they've had decades to copy from everyone else who didn't. It's called being a kike company rushing product to market to make them sales. Engine blows up? "too bad go get your warranty work done and be thankful you have a toyota" lol idiots.

>>28234855
>>now the engines just blow up in 1000miles from boost
>HUHHHHH WHUUUUUT HUHHHH
how stupid are you oh wait you're a toyotard nvm i expect nothing from you retards but more fantasy land dreaming
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a60992514/toyota-tundra-lexus-lx-engine-recall/

>>28234861
you're an idiot. that's all

>>28234910
Thanks. As a native English speaker, my command of the language is excellent. Again, thanks for noticing.
But never mind that, how about toyotas arrogant shittiness instead?
Remember when they copies the Skyactiv engine for the A25A, and they didn't even put the right size pistons in it and the camrys were seizing in 1000 miles? Pepperidge Farms remembers. Now their boosted shitty v6 engines are failing, in the same way like how hyundai engines are failing and they're even using the *same excuse* as hyundai- "machining debris" LOL
The most profitable automaker can't machine an engine properly. That's how fucking greedy they are. Fucking Suzuki never had this problem...God damned Mitsubishi for fucks sake.

Hyundai fucked up because they saved money on induction hardening and polishing journals, I suspect shityota fucked up the same way as hyundai and the two companies are garbage profit mongers who engineer commercials instead of vehicles. GAY

>>28234816
Yessir, an LS 460 is really no different than an S class at this point.

>>28235154
You forgot several punctuation marks and capitalizations.
.t actually white.

>>28235142
like what other anons said, Toyota is slow to adopt new tech.
& their new stuff is always iffy.
but after that it's rock solid reliability.
other car makers make shit from day 1 and that's it, it never changes.

>>28234342
Every single person in my life who I've recommended Lexus to gets a German car instead because they "love" German cars, even down to the lowly VW. What causes this delusion?

>>28234807
the late 80s and early 90s really were a perfect storm of this and the bubble economy. don't think we'll ever ser anything like this ever again, at least not in our lifetime

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>>28235284
Toyotas are dull as dishwater. An S65 would run 120 in the 1/4 and top out over 200 mph 20 years ago. Germans build sick cars you just have to keep them running.

>>28235284
German cars have more soul.
I'm a Lexus is owner and it's true.
the again BMW owners are always talking about rod bearings and insane oil weights.

>>28235284
I got my friend into an ls400 even though I've 4 BMWs.

>>28235413
korean cars seem to have the most soul right now

>>28235413
>always talking about rod bearings and insane oil weights
This is the "SOVL" we are talking about in the parlance of our times
What makes goyotas soulless is partly due how trouble free they are
When you own a BMW, it's like being in a relationship; they'll treat you right if you do the same to them
But sometimes they'll just spin a rod bearing on ya like a little whore
I ONLY use RED LINE 5W40 in my BMWs, by the way.

>>28235422
True, their engines are so SOVLfvl that they commit sudoku at like 888 miles; very lucky

>>28235425
>justifiying bmw
>relationship analogy with they/them pronouns
coincidence?

>>28235430
based reply

all lexass has going for it is reliability.
germshit has better interior/tech and driving dynamics

>>28235526
well and germans actually use new, larger battery packs for their hybrids, especially mercedes, toyota will still sell you a sub ONE kwh nickel hydride pack
the ONLY manufacturer, I know of, still using nickel non-lithium batteries

>>28235392
"Old car good" is not a meme and why /o/ glorifies decades-old shitboxes

>>28235422
they have shit ABS in their sporty cars though
not soulful at all.
although the elantra N is way faster than you'd think it'd be.
but still shit ABS.

>>28235536
i lurbs me sum Toyocunt but i can't habeeb they fukkan still use Nighole Medal Hydride batteries

that shit is from like R/C cars in the 1980s

why are plebs not rioting and mass loving Toyoda headquarters for this?

>>28235787
because the plebs are getting half a million miles before their first battery change

>>28235787
Toyota's nickel batteries are basically the best available.
Crazy good batteries.
eventually they're going to have to go lithium though.

>>28235410
okay but they are still slower than the cheapest tesla

>>28234342
Japanese luxury engineering is even more autistic then regular japanese engineering, and lexus owners follow the goddamn service record instead.

>>28235217
>forgot
>keeps mentioning race
t;only shitskins do that, plus I never cared for typography after the second line. I don't even use even spell check because IDGAF and you should have picked up on that. Prepare for some more me not caring about you. Always hilarious when a nog that's lost their case before they even had one, tries to cling to typographical carelessness to save face. Hop in your corola and cry bitch.
>>28235221
>but after that it's rock solid reliability.
>then it never changes
"Oh but first we have to screw the hell up and gaslight our stupid customers that chose us specifically not to fuck up"
Yeah. Okay.
>rocksolid reliability
IIt's not. Reread my posts. t never was "rock solid reliability" even the 22re was a headgasket eater which chain problems that destroy the timing cover, and that's an old overrated toyota engine, all toyota engines are overrated, and they never 'got better' after that. They still burn more oil than a Mazda which they copied the engine from. A Nissan KA is legit more legendary than any toyota S, R engine, and the newer aluminum toy shit is not even worth mentioning, like the whole block warping, head bolt stripping AZ or oil burning ZZs. Every toyota I hear sounds like crap, VVT phasers rattling, piston slap, general chincy sounding engines. Toyotards know the least, and it's never surprising. The only surprising thing seems to be how deluded toyotards didn't know about the crap they're hawking.

And that's not to let you off with that "bbbut toyota *has* to fuck up its just their normal development cycle". LOL
Literally the most profitable automaker has to *routinely* use the customer as a beta test bed worse than even GM ahaha. It maksed sense that they would be highest profitability, since they spend so little on R&D and engineers salaries. They discovered profit comes easier if they dump billions into advertising to dominate weak minds, and gaslight them after, than actually live up to their "name"

>>28235839
>Toyota's nickel batteries
Toyota isn't a battery mannufacturer, moron and they didn't invent NiMH batteries.
Behold! the toyotard!
>>28235795
>half million miles hybrid
Who would have thought a hybrid vehicle with crippled low ICE output and ancient battery tech that's typically selected by livery fleets can get 500K miles, just like an old Crown Vic? Amazing!!
(and pruises still burn oil lol)

>>28235839
nickel is heavier and less energy dense than lithium - there's a reason nobody else uses it anymore

>>28236078
>Claims to be first world
>Can't speak English properly
Anon....

>>28236085
Toyotas battery chemistry for nickel batteries is basically unbeatable.
I'm not saying that it's necessarily better than lithium, but quality is quality.

>>28234342
The reliability is mostly due to driver mods. Lexus is a certified chinese grandma car

>>28234366
that's not a reliability score you midwit.

>>28234342
They have extreme standards for parts durability in their engineering phase. They iterate slowly so by the end of a model run that is very long they have solved a huge number of issues. The next generation uses the lessons they learned. The owners value reliability, durability, and resale value above all else so that's what they deliver.

>>28234342
Oh also most models are designed and built in japan by japanese people who have a much higher average iq than americans and they care deeply about their work and themselves.

>>28234448
>the actual answer is that they get people to come in every year for a service, because they give you a nice place to sit while they service your car.
this. any car driven reasonably and owned in line with manufacturer maintenance recommendations can be expected to last years and years. Today, anything less is an outlier, not a standard. lexus made a concerted effort to have nice, comfortable dealerships with stuff like decently good coffee and snacks, and seating that is moderately nicer than an airport gate bench.

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Elderly clientele = better upkeep which also skews the average rating

Attracting young chicks (like Mini used to) can fuck your brand's reliability rating in the ass.

>>28236895
I have a a bmw that has a fuck load of parts that get fucked all the time and an old lexus suv that never breaks. ALso the bmw has fluid leaks everywhere from random seals failing and the lexus has zero fucking drips or drops anywhere. toyota just has better parts and its not even fucking close. Bmw does shit like make trash wiring that has shitty insulation that breaks or wires that fatigue and break. BMW put shitty plastic parts that go to rubber tubing on their radiators and those parts fail. BMW water pumps fail faster than toyota water pumps. Toyota oversized their frame components based on the load they will see and bmw doesn't so bmw has issues with subframes and shit like that whereas toyota never does. It really just isn't even close.

>>28235422

Yes. I am on a work trip this week and my rental car is a Genesis and it's actually quite nice. I am seriously impressed.

T. lexus owner

>>28236876
chinese grannies know whats good

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>>28234342
He whipped those nips into shape

>>28236881
>that's not a reliability score you midwit.
I'd still assume midwits to be literate, that guy's a straight up retard.

>>28234342
all it takes is use super old last gen parts, and tune the output so that it's underpowered. You end up using tried and tested parts, and the car lasts longer because there's less strain. Unfortunately you end up with a car for seniors but lexus drivers know what they're getting into.