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>For Classics made from 1979 or older, with few exceptions.
>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.
>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.
>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.
>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.
>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.
>Period correct performance > cosmetics.
>Metal > plastic.
>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.
>JBweld and RTV can fix anything
>If you see rust there is more.
>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.
>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multimeter.
>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.
>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.
>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.
>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded
>Nothing is as easy as it seems

Previous thread: >>28777936
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Its not pretty but I can fix it.
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>>28793181
>It might have been worth it to go 66 and earlier.
I think this sometimes, but I so far I haven't found a '66 or earlier model car that
>I really like the look
>I find the interior comfy
>I like the dash
>Has reasonable parts availability
>Has either good suspension or well supported aftermarket suspension upgrades
>Is priced sanely

I know that's a lot to ask, but the truth is there just aren't many pre-67 cars that really do it for me. This is of course subjective, but generally I find them either gaudy and over designed or they have whacky gimmicky dashes or overly sparse interiors. Of the ones that I do like, they're crazy expensive. 1965-66 Mustangs and GTOs for example are all going for brand new family car money. If you do find one for $12-15k, it's a clapped out project with a straight six and a 3-sleed automatic that will need $10k in parts to be what I want it to be anyway.

So it was either spend $25-40k on a pre-67 that I like, or get pretty much everything I want from a 75-85 model for $15k tops but have to navigate the emissions shit.

So we'll see how it goes. Worst case scenario and I can't get it through emissions, I have three options.
>Move out of this shithole city.
>Title it to a trustworthy family member in another county to be exempt.
>Pull my expensive powertrain, sell the roller, and buy the cheapest 65-66 mustang I can find.
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>>28793889
>complaining about a 3 speed auto
There are 2 speed powerglide builds that are faster than anything you've ever driven or will ever drive.
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>powerglide
WEW couldn't be me
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>>28793889
Other pre-67 cars I somewhat like besides the Mustang
>Fairlane
>Galaxie
>Chevelle
>Nova
>>28793961
>There are 2 speed powerglide builds that are faster than anything you've ever driven or will ever drive
Man I don't really care about that - I'm not a spec sheet cock measurer. It's all about the driving experience and how the cars makes me feel, and I like driving manuals. Even if they're slower. Autos, regardless of how many gears they have or how fast the car it's in is, deprive me of an entire aspect of driving that I enjoy. So if I'm buying a car as anything but a practicalitymaxxing commuter econobox, the auto has to go.
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>>28793961
no one gives a shit nigger
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>>28793889
>Pull my expensive powertrain, sell the roller, and buy the cheapest 65-66 mustang I can find
Are you the guy with the 4 door Fairmont?
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>>28793889
I bought a 1990 mustang to do an efi swap in my '66.
>this was in the 90's.
Made the mistake of driving the '90. Hated driving the '66 after that.
Original body style mustangs look cool but they're not good cars. Everything from seating position to suspension geometry is....get this....ancient 1960's design.
So much has to be modified to make them handle as well as even a 2000 camry that theyre only good for boulevard cruisers.

Sold the '66 many years ago.
Still have the '90.
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>>28794309
im glad you sold the mustang instead of making an abomination out of it like every retard trying to cope with their rose tinted glasses
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>>28793696
fake highboy but still the best OP pic in a long time
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>>28794339
I hate this "build" so fucking much it's unreal
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>>28794339
Half of the 1964 1/2 - 1966 mustangs built were sold in California.
They werent a big deal back then. I bought that car for $800 and there was nothing wrong with it. 289/C4.
It was an awesome car but we took their availability for granted.
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>>28794286
Yes.
>>28794309
>Everything from seating position to suspension geometry is....get this....ancient 1960's design.
That's definitely part of the reason I'm more drawn to 70s and 80s models to he honest. Cars were definitely still being figured out in the 60s, especially when it came to ergonomics, interiors, and suspension. I admit I have a particular fondness for cars from 75-85. Still relatively simple, easy to work on. My favorite era for visual design in general. Much better interior comfort and handling than earlier cars. It's really only the emissions laws and questionable build quality you have to worry about.
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I never did end up posting it before the thread closed, here's my Matador Coupe Barcelona.
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>>28794309
>Original body style mustangs look cool but they're not good cars. Everything from seating position to suspension geometry is....get this....ancient 1960's design.
this was what i was thinking when i saw that infamous pic of that guy that traded in his 66 mustang for an audi s5. it was probably his dream car since he was a kid, and now after all these years of working his ass off to finally be able to get his hands on one...and it wasn't as good as he hoped it'd be.
>>28794391
what are you talking about it's a great build there's nothing wrong at all with rubber band tires and god only knows what else was done to make that car more like a nu-car
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>>28794309
Yeah, but the government won't deny your registration renewal because of archaic suspension geometry and leaf springs.
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>>28794822
Leave California.
I did.
Never been happier.
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is it normal for the valves to be the wear item in heads and not the guides? Ive taken apart the heads on these 3 sbcs and the valves have lots of clearance to wobble in the guides, but a new valve feels snug in all 3 heads
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>>28795073
Sounds odd to me.
Used to take valves with mushroomed stem heads, grind them flat and reuse them. Theyre suppose to outlast seats and guides.
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>>28794822
Exactly. A bit of research shows you can cram better suspension underneath a first gen Mustang body, if you're willing to throw enough money at it. I'm sure it would offend purists but it is what it is. In any case, I'll beat my head against the wall for a while before I fall back on doing something like that. Now that I have the Zephyr all drivable it's really starting to grow on me. I'm pretty sure I can get it to pass but I'm at least trying to think ahead to what I'll do if I can't.
>>28794833
I don't live there. This happens in many states other than California anon, and that's been the case since the 70s. It's on a county by county basis across most of the US, and most counties that have a major city in them have something like it.
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>>28794431
Damn that's really cool anon. That front facia is really striking. Front have of the car is 9/10, back half I'm not as crazy about but it looks super clean. Any interior pics?
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>>28795427
Unless it's really cheap I'd be building the tried and true c4 subframes. You can buy a 500sqft lot somewhere not gay for $7500 and register your car there.
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>>28795434
>You can buy a 500sqft lot somewhere not gay for $7500 and register your car there.
Needs to have a utility bill to count, same as for buying a gun. Just an address or PO box doesn't count AFAIK. So it would have to have electricity or water or something at a minimum.
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>>28794431
What a weird looking pinto.
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>>28795427
Don’t even bother trying to explain, half these toothless mongrels can’t possibly fathom that somebody wouldn’t want to live in some backwoods flyover shit hole and the other half couldn’t afford to live anywhere else anyway.
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>>28795954
>t. hustle and bustle
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>>28795954
Post your zip code.
Let's compare quality of life.
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>>28795465
doesnt need to be a utility bill, i have a empty 10 acre lot with a pole barn i store shit in, i used the receipt for some freight i had dropped there. its in the sticks so no one fucks with any of it
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>>28795431
Yeah, it's absurdly comfortable I love the bench seats.
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>>28796811
8 years apart and AMC still using the same parts, I see. My 85 Eagle has the same inner and outer door handles, same dome light, probably the same window cranks and who knows what else
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>>28796888
Well then just a heads up for you. The tumblers in those door locks will freeze in sub 32 degrees if there's a heavy wind. I couldn't get into my car for a day the other week. Nice fucking interior though man, looks good condition. How's the Eagle as a driver?
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>>28796906
I've had it for 6 years, so when it does get cold out I just heat up a the key with a lighter and it unthaws eventually. As for a driver, the 4x4 is great in the snow, but it's such an underpowered turd, being a straight six from the 80s. The Chrysler transmission doesn't help either, like most Eagles, 3rd gear slips.
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>>28796908
Is that the 727 transmission in there? The TorqueFlite or whatever AMC rebranded it to? Also clean Eagle dude, I almost bought one.
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>>28796924
It's a 904 or some variation of the Torqueflite, I can't remember exactly, only the Jeeps had a 727.
It's a notoriously picky transmission and 3rd gear commonly goes bad on them. As a mechanic, Eagles are not very good vehicles, but people love them. Most of the time I'm parked somewhere, some one comes up to me and tells me how their dad/ uncle/ friend of a friend had one and they think it's cool.
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Well i found out why there’s moss growing on the drivers drip rail
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>>28796934
Odd, I haven't had an issue with the 727 in my Matador, though it seems like it really holds off on that 3rd gear when accelerating foot to the floor, second will take you up to almost 80mph before it shifts unless you blip it. I know just what you mean about people coming up though, the amount of people I've heard do the "An AMC?! I haven't seen one in ages!" is getting a little absurd.
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>>28795994
31021

Reminder that I was raised in 92071
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>>28796938
>moss
My shits been sitting for so long it has lichen on it.
>get gud
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>>28796962
>92071
>Not even La Jolla
kek, you can't talk ANY amount of shit. Dublin area is certainly your pace anyways, poorfaggot
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>>28796964
lich my balls
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>>28796971
Post your zipcode.
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>>28796971
Oh by the way

Law street.
Parking sucks ass.
Throw pallets down the cliffs.
Thats OUR fire ring.
Grunion are a fucking trip.
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>>28796962
There is never anything to gain by providing more information about yourself to someone you're arguing with online.
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Can anyone shed some light to me why this ignition coil has 2 positive leads, one from/to the starter relay?
Is this to make sure the coil gets enough voltage during cranking or am I missing something?
I've never encountered this kind of setup before.
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Eastwood 2 part engine paint and primer spray paint works quite well
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>>28796934
i had the folly of buying one thinking it would be like an xj, i ended up pulling the motor and junking the rest
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>>28797051
at one time 92037 now it's innawoods somewhere in New Mexico. not posting because i don't want any more rubbish shitting up this gem.
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>>28797357
ill pass, s10 already lives there
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>>28797068
One of the positives will be 12v during Start while the other will be at a reduced voltage through a ballast resistor/resistor wire when in Run. Keeps the amperage down so as to extend life of the points and not blow up coils from heat.
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>>28796951
>>28796934
>>28796924
AMC is so weird. I had gm th400 behind my 304 79 CJ
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>>28797060
>OMG someone knows what city I live in!!!
It would be cool.tp get my own stalker.
Thats like rich people hobby.
Bring beer.
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>>28797376
Yeah that's what I kinda figured that it's some sort of ballast type thingy, but I didn't see a ballast on the coil so I dropped that idea. Seems like my initial assumption was correct then.
I'm going to drop the points eventually for a contactless system anyway so a generic coil will do just fine then.
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>>28797541
sure there ain't a ballast resistor somewhere else in the engine bay? mopars as an example would have it somewhere on the firewall or fender
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>>28797541
>>28797545
Some vehicles use a "ballast wire". It looks like a normal piece of wire and can be difficult to find in the harness. If you come across it it looks like some weird factory splice.
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>>28797545
I haven't looked even, but could be.
Shit's still in the bodywork stage before I can get to the engine.
Of course the very first thing I did get for this car was a shiny new carb, but that is essential.
>>28797551
Could be, but then again ancient Soviet engineering that has been fucked around with since the 70s by Ukrainians and was a victim of kolhoz tuning.
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>>28797553
>Soviet engineering
Ya ill bet its a ballast wire, cheapest way to do it so it fits with the Russian mindset
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Subframe almost ready to come out
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>>28797490
condoms and lube, too, or nah?
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>>28797563
The Volga was anything but cheap for its time, but you might still be right.
But it doesn't really matter if I'm ditching points for electronic ignition, that is if I'm keeping the stock engine in there at all.
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>>28794339
I like this restomod and idc what you fags say.
1968 Plymouth Road Runner: The Engine Is the Hellephant in the Room, Pumps Out 1,000 HP - autoevolution https://share.google/aBoPvBc2OloD9iEWD
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>>28797918
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>>28797596
>and lube
Depends how tight your asshole is.
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>>28797918
why didn't you just post the direct link instead of that google link?
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/1968-plymouth-road-runner-the-engine-is-the-hellephant-in-the-room-pumps-out-1000-hp-263646.htm
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>>28794433
>god only knows what else was done to make that car more like a nu-car
they cut and grafted a sn95 into it
put a 0 effort smog 302 making under 200hp and an aod.
it's literally just a complete cut and shut hackjob thats not cool, its worse than just a base 6 falcon.
rcr is a faggot kike who's afraid of cars that're fast he only had it built for him so he could meet old men to suckoff at car meets and he immediately sold it when they still avoided his gay kike ass.
he bought and sold the mr2 for the same reason.
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>>28797918
that's fine except for that gay badge on the side
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>>28797923
it wasn't for me ;)
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>>28797434
teehee I'm just so quirky and weird
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>>28798131
>muh gay
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>>28798616
shut up, lm7bird
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>>28797926
How the fuck do you even drive something with that much power
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After quite a bit of research and talking to the folks at MM, I think my plan is coming together.

I'm still on the lookout for a good donor car to make this all simpler and cheaper, but people are getting fucking weird about fox bodies. I'm basing my plan on piecing it all together and if I find a donor in the meantime then I'll just use whatever parts I can pull off that instead (k-member, clutch, motor, spindles).

A lot of the more radical or expensive offerings for the suspension and brakes require 17" wheels for one reason or another, and I just don't think they would look good on the car, so that narrowed things down a bit. No MM K-member (it's engineered for SN95 spindles), no Griggs/DetroitSpeed/RideTech SLA, no aftermarket big brake kits, etc. Still on the fence about converting to a coilover, but there are some benefits that are appealing to me when it comes to dialing in the ride height and quality. Really depends on whether I end up finding a donor or go with an aftermarket K-member.

Front
>15" 5-lug wheels
>87-93 V8 spindles
>11" front rotors
>SVO style calipers with 73mm pistons
>87-93 SVO master cylinder
>Upgraded front sway bar (MM/QA1/Eibach)
>K-member + A-arm + spring/shock TBD (MM/QA1 or some mix probably)

Rear
>15" 5-lug wheels
>8.8" rear end, probably retaining the current 3.27 gears for crooozing
>10.5" rotors
>SN95 Cobra calipers
>Sway bar (MM/QA1/Eibach)
>MM/QA1 upper+lower control arms
>MM panhard bar

Powetrain
>Tremec TKX, haven't decided on ratios yet
>Hydraulic clutch manual conversion kit
>302 crate motor, probably a long block instead of dressed so I can fit OEM headers and intake to make sure I can pass inspection.

Interior
>Retrosound head unit
>New 5" dash speakers
>6x9 rear deck speakers
>NOS 80-82 Mustang/Capri 6-gauge bezel I bought
>"hump" top repro mustang dash pad painted to match interior
>NVU/Dakota Digital direct fit gauge cluster
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>>28799406
Once I lock down my decision on those last few suspension components, I'm going to build a full tracking table for all the parts and price everything out on web stores / ebay / etc.

Then I'll split out all the pieces I could get off a donor car and that will tell me what price would make it worth it. A junkyard 302HO and T5 wouldn't be as nice, but I could cope with that for what it would save me and rebuild or down the road once they died.

Then it's just saving up - I won't order anything besides maybe the head unit until I can buy it all at once. Car is drivable now and I don't want to start taking it apart until I have everything I need to get it drivable again.
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>>28799406
>>28799415
I think you ought to just drive the car as is. It's a creampuff, mate.
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>>28799406
big brake kits are a meme, they just allow for increased heat capacity. just get something that'll fit under the stock 15s and if you want to slow down quicker get grippier tyres. if you're getting fade issues then you might start looking into better pad compounds, fluid etc.
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>>28799441
I'm driving it as is for now for sure - but I bought this car specifically with the intent of dropping a v8 and a manual into it, and while I'm doing that I might as well improve the brakes and suspension a bit. At a minimum, the sway bars will make a huge difference and all the original rubber bushings NEED to be replaced, along with the front struts. There are almost no good front strut options for the 79-86 spindles, so swapping to the 87-93 ones has multiple benefits.
>>28799469
>just get something that'll fit under the stock 15s
Yeah that's the plan - the stock wheels are actually 14s but I think a 15 will look just fine on the car. Any bigger is a no from me. 15" 5-lug will give me way more options for wheel and tire so I can find something that looks plausibly stock. There are no rear disc brake options that will fit under the 14s or I'd just keep those. Going to the 10.5" rotor brakes on the rear will throw the bias too far out for a proportioning valve to adjust properly, so the 11" fronts with the SVO 73mm piston calipers should get me back into a reasonable bias. That'll definitely be more than enough stopping power for the car and I doubt I'll have issues with fade on the canyon cruising I'll be doing with the car.
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>>28799487
does it still have rear drums? if so, keep them, it'll be perfectly fine...almost. you might just need to adjust the brake bias so that the fronts lock up right before the rears do (test on empty wet parking lot). you can also swap out the wheel cylinders for a smaller bore to achieve a similar effect if you don't have a prop valve.
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>>28799502
It's there are drums on the 8.8 rear end I bought to install in the car, but I don't want to keep them.

The car stops... ok currently, but the brake feel is absolutely garbage. Most vague, mushy brakes I've ever felt on a car. And that's after I went fully through the brakes on all four wheels, replaced most of the lines, and fully flushed the system with new fluid. Before I did all that they were even worse. Maybe just the SVO front setup with the appropriate master cylinder and booster would do the trick. Converting the rear to the 10.5" 94-04 rear disk will be easy enough and really not terribly expensive though so I had it noted down as worth serious consideration.
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>>28799540
bigger master cyl bore will increase pedal effort while shortening the travel. that might help with pedal feel. booster could also be contributing to the vagueness
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>>28799406
>Still on the fence about converting to a coilover, but there are some benefits that are appealing to me when it comes to dialing in the ride height and quality
Dialing in is a one time event.
Youre not going to change your mind later.
Having the spring between the lower and the K-member has the benefits of lower CoG and increased clearance for wider tires. Also cheaper struts of the same quality.
Springs will last a lifetime.
Youre going to change struts- and thats just service life without getting into failure rates.

Rear 5 lug/disc conversion is an easy swap with TWO (2) DRIVER SIDE RANGER AXLES sourced from your local junkyard.

Stock headers suck.
Nobody that does a smog check is going to know the difference between the stock 1 1/2 primary dimpled pieces of shit or a pair of 1 5/8 primary Doug Thorley or even BBK headers- but the engine will.

6x9s are trash.
Its an attempt to make 2 different sound waves from a single driver.
Coaxial all around.
3 1/2 in the dash, 5 1/4 in the doors 6 1/2 out back.
8s, 10s or 12s in the trunk depending on your musical taste.
Not some Kenwood trash from walmart but something with enough weight to knock someone out with. My 3 1/2s have 3" magnets
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>>28799406
gonna be a ripper
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>>28799406
>11" front rotors with 15s
im not so damn sure about that nigga
>11" cobra rotors with 18" amr shart wheels
you might possibly fit 16s with the cobra calipers, maybe.
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>>28799646
i've got 11.1 inch/283 mm rotors under 15 inch steelies. this is for a mopar though.
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>>28799591
>junkyard axles
moser will sell you upgrade 31 spline axles for next to nothing.
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>>28799646
>>28799653
I have some 11.75" rotors from a cordoba under some aero steel wheels. also on a MOPAR
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>>28799684
15s
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>>28799669
Cheapest I found.
Still impressive but I can get axles for $10 a piece at the junkyard.
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>>28799669
>upgrade 31 spline
Well thats not a direct swap then now is it.
>just upgrade the spiders bro.
>since you had to pull the carrier instead of just sliding in 28s you should do bearings too.
>well shit nothing lines up now so you might as well re-gear too.
>since the carriers out you might as well replace the friction discs.
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>>28799563
Good tip, I'll keep it in mind.
>booster could also be contributing to the vagueness
Hmm... hydroboost conversion? Something to consider when I'm getting the new steering rack installed. Didn't put it in my original post but I'm definitely planning a Flaming River 12:1 power rack when I can.
>>28799591
>Having the spring between the lower and the K-member has the benefits of lower CoG and increased clearance for wider tires
To be clear, you're saying this is a benefit of keeping the stock setup? I was considering that a benefit of the stock setup with new springs and better struts would probably be easier to maintain in the long run. I'm spoiled on very nice adjustable coilovers on motorcycles and that's why I mentally defaulted to them, but I can see it both ways.
>Stock headers suck.
But they have the air injection ports so I could at least make it LOOK like all the original emissions hardware is there, even if I have it blocked off. Probably overthinking it desu. I would honestly much rather put decent aftermarket short tube headers and a good intake with a Holley Sniper kit on it, but I care more about keeping it on the road in my shit ass corrupt county.
>6x9s are trash
I was only thinking that because there appears to already be mounting holes in the sheet metal beneath the rear deck for them. You can get 6x9 coaxials. In any case, I wasn't planning to mount speakers in the doors since I don't want to cut up the good condition door cards. Just the dash and rear deck. I'll buy good quality speakers. Literally anything is better than the single mono speaker it has right now.
>>28799646
The cars these brakes originally came on had 15s, and the seller says 15s fit. I think it'll work. The stock rotors are 10" and fit under 14s.
>>28799669
>>28799713
>>28799719
Yeah I'm just gonna drop some cheap 28 spline 5-lug axles in the 8.8 rear I have. Not planning on monster power with this thing. Just enough to have fun uphill.
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>>28799751
never tried a hydroboost setup. seems like it delivers even more stopping power than vacuum boost though.
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>>28799783
Most of what I read says that because it's a hydraulic booster running off the power steering pump instead of vacuum off the engine, the braking force you get is consistent across all RPMs and engine conditions, and with more feedback (and can support a stronger boost). With the right master cylinder for the brakes I'm considering, I should be able to get a really nice pedal travel and feel. That's the hope at least.

I'll talk to MM about it when I call them back, they know these cars inside out and will be able to tell me exactly how to get it set up.
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posted on /dat/ too but will post more about the carb cheater here. o2 sensor installed, can see rpm, vacuum and afr in real time, pretty fucking cool. Tried to start data logging but phone closed the app because overheating fml.
when it cools off later today i might see if i can do a quick zip down the highway to catch some data.
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>>28801168
fuck. so i discovered that my car can't go down the highways for too long lest it overheat. mind you, the guy that filled up the radiator just used straight demin water with redline water wetter. It fills up the overflow bottle and sometimes pukes it out if it gets hot enough. Interestingly, it hasn't lost enough to actually reach the level the factory manual says to fill to ("1.25 inch below filler neck seat")...yet.
Also seems to have a heat soak problem that not even my fiberglass fuel line insulation nor the composite spacer could prevent. Just have to remember to keep cranking with the pedal pushed down a bit till it turns over.
And as for the carb cheater...i has LOGS. just gotta figure out how to get them off the phone though lul.
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>>28801567
alright so it looks like you do need an internet connection if you wanna actually see a graph of the logs. Once it does that, beneath the graph is a data key that you can note down somewhere if you wanna read the log later.
The offline viewer is just lines of text but I think you can enter that into the 'Input Raw Data' field on their site to get a graph. Haven't tested though.
Pic related was driving through the suburbs. If you wanna take a look, go to the home page of the carb cheater website, bottom of that page, then copy the filename of pic related into the data key field
I haven't had the time yet to really dial it in since the exhaust upgrade. I kinda fucked it because it was running pretty good before but I thought the AFRs were way too high when I should've just looked at the vacuum while I was screwing with the idle mix screws.
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>>28801569
oops forgot to turn off dark reader addon
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>>28801572
fuck it. dark reader might be easier on the eyes. you guys can also see the graph yourselves with the data keys too.
>CJuJZ
narrowed it down to the first 30 secs after hitting the record button. Seems like this engine likes to idle at 1000 rpm, judging by the significantly increased vacuum at that particular rpm. Quite surprised since the factory manual idle rpm is usually around 550-600 although it's slightly different depending on the carb so that might not be a good reference.
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>>28801580
moar logs
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This is a pretty textbook example of pre-ignition, is this fucked. Its the only piston that looks like this
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Some weird rust patterns on the bores too. The cylinders are pretty glazed too so looks like it will need a good hone job to straighten this out
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>>28801168
>>28801567
>>28801569
>>28801572
>>28801580
COOL
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>>28802291
So that's where I left my steel BBs.
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>>28802291
That sure as fuck is not pre-ignition, that's something metal that got down the intake
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>>28802304
This is why I refuse to buy used engines for any more than scrap prices. In general there seems to be two places for people to store engines. One is the swamp in the backyard that the engine sank into a couple decades ago and they just now dug it out or on the side of the house right under a downspout so that the water pours directly into the engine. While this one is lightly damaged it appears this was a downspout-stored motor since there's no mud (yet).
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>>28802291
yeah wtf, that isn't preignition. some bullshit got sucked in and kissed the piston
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>>28802345
>>28802406
>>28802424
I scraped away at the carbon on the head and found little dimples so it's possible but im not convinced
>>28802419
I pulled it out of my dad's running driving bronco. We were doing a rear main seal and found bearing material in the pan. Looks like cam bearings but the entire motor looks pretty tired. Rod bearings are showing copper, cylinders are glazed. It'll take some work. The cam bearings are totally shot which would explain the low oil pressure at idle
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>>28802441
What do the valves look like?
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>>28802470
Nothing out of the ordinary here
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>>28802424
Yep.
Deepest impessions coincide with the combustion chamber shape- the debris being smashed between the head and piston in the area outside of the chamber.
Judging by the consistent dimple size I would say it was not a screw or random piece of casting that broke off from somewhere but more like a center electrode from a sparkplug.
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>>28802493
i'm thinking something like this
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>>28802569
aren't those made out of lead?
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Finished disassembly, cam bearings were totally shot



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