>>28812166
Aren't 600cc bikes better than 1000cc bikes?

They're lighter, more agile, and only slightly slower.

>>28812173
600RR's are perfect for learners, but have no where near the raw power of a real litre.
To get a 600 to go fast, you have to ring the shit out of it, while a litre is fast all the time, and also they are not much heavier.
600 is considered the bear minimum for a learner who wants to become a decent rider.

>>28812166
Clean thread, melon tranny burn in hell can't believe you posted the same shit for a year straight

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>2022
>Hayabusa is back to Europe after 2 years
>2025
>DRZ is back to Europe after 17 years
>2026
>GSXR1000 will be back to Europe soon after 6 years
Now waiting for Yamaha R1, Yamaha Vmax and Kawasaki ZX-14R successors, although only the first one seems likely, unless H2 SX counts as a ZX-14R successor

>>28812251
>unless H2 SX counts as a ZX-14R successor
Tough call. I need them to both exist

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hey guys, OP here
I forgot to fundamental links from previous generals
and the sticky we've had for 5 years
must be the hrt making me a bit of a klutzy girl hehe :3


Links
>https://msf-usa.org
>https://cycle-ergo.com/
>https://superbikeschool.com
>https://ridelikeachampion.com
>https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/helmets

STICKY >>23526953

>>28812291
>chameleon seething so hard he is desperate to be involved by posting gay links and an the world's shittest sticky
LOL, LMAO even

>>28812251
the zx15r is supposed to be a thing.
I would love a new VMax and R1 thobeit

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Hoping for a break in the weather so I can get a photo at lands end and piss around with the drone :)

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>>28812251
>>GSXR1000 will be back to Europe soon after 6 years

Suzuki GSX-R1000 and other larger GSX-R models (like the 600/750) were effectively banned/discontinued in the EU and UK after 2022 because they couldn't meet the stricter Euro 5 emissions regulations, and Suzuki chose not to update them for the European market

You couldn't buy a new 2024 GSX-R1000 in the EU (because they were already gone)

>>28812344
Thats great... Suzuki haven't deal with regs well in the past, the k7 was seen as a flop after the k5/6, and so on

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>>28812291
>P-please p-post my links
>A-and my s-sticky
>I-its all i h-have l-left
Chameleon status: Mindbroken

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>>28812173
That's why 900cc bikes exist.
600s aren't "slightly slower" they're very slow compared to any liter.
900ccs give you 600 characteristics with liter power, only sacrificing a little bit of top end speed is exchange.

>>28812430
>900cc
Thats a litre bike

>>28812309
cornwall on a scooter
your wife is brave

p.s. still miss your channel...

>>28812541
Well thats a big thank you from us at the team.
>wife
She actually loves these trips, as she prearranges "dates" to meet her at the hotels we stay in.
On our last trip she broke her personal record.
>miss our channel
Thanks but PH, is shit now, she still has her OF though

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This guy proves that riding a bike fast is exactly the same skill as driving a car fast. It all comes down to brake and throttle application. All this midwit "body position", "counter-steering", "look through the turn", "screwdriver grip" talk is just a distraction from internet experts who are too scared to trust their tires, so they need psychological tricks to calm their mind. Simply brake into the corner and accelerate out of it. It's that simple.

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Yea koguma is cute and super cub anime was intense but for me, it's the Yamaha vino.

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>>28812309
mmmm piss

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>>28812733
>road6

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>>28811281
Was putting off cause the job required pulling the airbox and the battery just to get to move one cable
Supposedly you can wiggle it just right to get it through but I reckon it’s more of a hassle and pain to spend an hour trying to do it without pulling parts than it is to just take the extra time to do it right

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>>28812755
>road6

How much will going from a 40 to a 42 tooth rear sprocket change my bike feel?

I'm really happy with the way it rides right now, but I need a new rear sprocket and for whatever reason I can't seem to find a good steel option with 40 teeth.

So I can either get a 42 tooth steel sprocket, or a 40 tooth aluminum. I'm wary of aluminum though and I'd much rather have a steel sprocket.

>>28812446
A reluctant liter bike in the words of David Moss

>>28812785
Go for the steel sprocket, aluminum is trash unless you're racing and plan to swap them out every other race. Yeah alu might rev slightly quicker due to weight but the steel will last far longer. Reducing the # of teeth will increase acceleration but trade off top speed and will make your speedometer inaccurate (unless remedied with a speedo-healer)

>>28812785
2 teeth on the rear will be noticeable but unless you have a super short 1st it'll probably feel like an improvement. if you're only changing the rear sprocket and not the front and chain there's no problem going for alum but I'm also a steel autist

>>28812807
>David Moss
fraud

>>28812813
You watched 1 British boy slander the man and took it as gospel despite said bonger having 0 credentials.

Ngmi.
Moss is not a fraud, prove it but you won't because you cling on the 1 time he lightly resurfaced old fork surface.

>>28812817
>You watched 1 British boy slander the man and took it as gospel despite said bonger having 0 credentials.
I don't know what internet drama you're talking about but I did go to one of his "seminars".

>>28812824
There are biker seminars?
What happens in those

>>28812828
A bunch of boomers learn how to set static sag then walk out and say "too hard for me, I'll take it to the 'shop".

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>>28812832
Well that seems like a waste of money
Did they at least have good snacks ans skulls n flame tshirts or something coolio?

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>>28812817
This, dave moss is 100% legit, I just got done paying for a Skype suspension tuning session, only costs 800$ for 1 hour and the bikes rides great now.

>>28812837
kek'd

is high vis on moto gear too gay?
this guy on marketplace has a basically brand new jacket for almost nothing but it looks like pic related and i'm worried i'll look like a fucking fruitcake.

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>>28812859
pic related oops

>>28812859
With how many barely sentient morons there are on the road, you'd be a fool to listen to anyone that gives you shit about wearing hi-viz.

>>28812837
Damn shoomerbros, i could be making that many hourly wulongs narrating bakuon anime dubs for all of /dlt/'s learnerbike chameleon troonies
Fuck how do i exploit this lifehack???

>>28812859
Nothing will help you becomming less of a fruitcake, embrace the hivis; keep yourself safe
A trauma kit with handlebar herpes ointment is also reccommended once tou get into leaderbike school
Hopefully your prof is keith, i dont like this other suspension guy

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Claiming this thread in the name of a unified /dbt/.

Pic related will hopefully be out of the shop soon and leaking all over my garage again.

>>28812871
>unified /dbt/.
nigga, thats just a meem to have charmelion tranny spaz out so we can laugh at him.

>>28812902
Chameleon tranny just seems to be anyone that says anything negative about splitting the threads.

>>28812871
>out of the shop soon and leaking all over my garage again.
What's wrong with it?

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>~650cc inline 4 naked, for sporty riding
>~900cc v-twin cruiser, for touring
>~350cc single supermoto, for reliable commuting and light trail riding
Is this the ideal 3-bike collection for someone who rides on the street 95% of the time?

>>28812824
>>28812832
>>28812837
Again, you're not explaining WHY he's a fraud you just don't like a service he's offering.

You're paying for a professionals time to spoon feed you information. You can disagree with the price but you're doing actually nothing to disprove his experience, his knowledge, or his accuracy in information he provides.

Try to post something with substance to prove your stance, if not shut those gum flapping lips up boy'

>>28812926
Carbs needed some work to get it to idle reliably and it had an electrical gremlin that kept killing the taillight. A family friend is taking care of it since he knows way more about old Bong Bikes than I do. The leaking wasn't the issue getting addressed, it's just kind of a given with these bikes.
Very fun bike when it's working, though, even if it vibrates all the blood out of your arm after about 10 minutes of cruising speed.

>>28812938
Bro his whole tuning thing is press down on the bike with your body weight and watch it spring back up. If you knew anything about dampers you would understand one cycle of variable force/velocity that doesn't even compress the damper fully tells you nothing about how it's going to handle anything on the road. Wrenchlet.
Now I'm not saying don't pay him hundreds of dollars for a Skype chat, you should do that, you literally deserve it the man has to eat and you are nothing.

>>28812944
>Carbs
That's a twin cylinder? I always thought Triumphs were singles aside for the uhhhh Thunderheads which were triples?
Or am I thinking of Royal Enfields?
Also you should really learn how to adjust the carbs yourself along with light electrical work.
What vintage is that bike?

>>28812950
The famous Triumphs are parallel twins. This one's a '70 Daytona 500 and probably needs its weird carburetors rebuilt. I'm also plenty happy to let someone else do free electrical problem solving because I fucking hate dealing with electrical stuff.

>>28812958
The carbs aren't brass Amals anymore, are they?
I remember old brass carbs needing a dash of oil in the tank to keep them from wearing out.
I don't mind electrical work on old bikes because they're piss easy.

>>28812811
>>28812810
I'm only changing the rear. The front and chain are in good shape, I just need a new rear because I'm swapping wheels and it uses a different bolt pattern.

I did some more searching and found some other options. I can get a used OEM steel 40t rear but (((used))), or I can order a JT steel from sprocketcenter in 39 or 41.... I guess I'll probably get the 41t.

>>28812927
not really. for me it was
>tw200
>fz6
>xlh1200
but no street in the winter so i have limitations

>>28812980
The chain and sprockets are a set, you probably shouldn't be swapping out only one part without also replacing the others.

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>pull crank
>hear something rattle into the oilpan
>pull this out of the pan
Worst part is, there isn't a pin like this used anywhere in the engine.

>>28812309
V STROM :D

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I gave up riding motorcycles a few months back after my third accident, but I really don't feel like myself anymore now that I don't ride. I loved it, it was one of the only things that genuinely made me happy. Is it worth risking permanent disability or death for?

>>28813172
Well were the crashes your fault?
If there's anything you could have conceivably done to foresee, avoid or mitigate the risk, then they were your fault.

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Any suggestions for protective jackets and boots that work well in tropical weather?
I will be moving to Bangkok soon and the weather there is too warm for any jacket let alone tshirts

Pic highly related. Will bang ladyboys there for you /dbt/

>>28813206
Yes, they were all technically my fault. First two were a function of bad weather and inexperience, third one was just a stupid mistake I made in an unfamiliar area while fatigued. But that doesn't mean that anyone can make riding not an inherently dangerous activity. I was asking about whether or not the risk is worth it, not if there were some magic way to make two-wheeled speed machines with no crash protection safe.

>>28813242
ride dirt

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>>28812948
Kek you have headliner knowledge at best you stupid bitch. Shut that fucking mouth before you utter more retarded nonsense. Don't you ever dare to use wrenchlet as an insult because clearly that's (you) I would easily bet you've never even taken your front forks apart let alone tune them for the track. I don't need to pay because I have a functional fucking brain to go off his FREE videos on youtube. Now shut the fuck up and get on with posting your bike stupid faggot.
>So he's ackthually a fraud cuz he preses dowun on da byke to test da adjustments which iz wong cuz you gotta compress da shock fully bc evury bump bottoms out da suspesnzon!!

>>28813242
The question "Is the risk worth it" has two sides: a cost and a benefit. The answer depends on both how much you gain from it and what your risk profile is.

>>28813239
I would just wear an airbag over my regular clothes. You won't be getting enough speed where abrasion would become a factor, so it's just a matter of how much you prioritise your limbs vs your torso. I've never had any temperature problems with boots, but the weather here only goes between 0C and a fairly dry 40C.

>>28813253
well I will ride in the city so the speed is mostly only up to 40mph so I don't think I will need an airbag.

>>28812871
>Chameleon tranny turns up, trying to force everyone to post how he wants, in one thread again
>On 4chan
Lel.
Mindbroken.

>>28813257
An airbag is a back protector, combined with a neck brace, and sometimes a chest protector. Of course it makes sense in the city, why wouldn't it?

>>28812291
your sticky is shit

>>28812297
>>28812385
>>28813281
all 1 guy crying

>>28813282
>"all the internet is just one (1) guy" - Chameleon Tranny, 2026

>>28813262
doesn't protect you from knee scrapes and your elbows
majority of low speed crashes hit those areas

>>28813287
See:
>>28813253
>it's just a matter of how much you prioritise your limbs vs your torso
If you care more about a scraped elbow than a broken spine, the most comfortable option could be buying a mesh jacket and taking the back protector out. Or just wearing elbow/knee guards and nothing else.

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>>28813282
kek.
Chameleon tranny BTFO, every day for the last month and counting

>>28813251
Dude just ask him for a refund kek, wrenchlet.

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>>28813283
>>28813294
>im too retarded to attribute quotes properly
-MelonTranny, 2012+14

>>28812927
Mine would be
>Sport standard bike with partial fairings (e.g. Fazer, Bandit, SV-S, doesn't matter if it's 600 or 1000)
>Big bore enduro with gravel-friendly tires (something like DR800 BIG or my imaginary street bike with Maico 700 2-smoke engine)
>Smol meme bike for the whimsical and chill rides (monke, VanVan)

I need to buy a new helmet again because my old one has expired, but for some reason every helmet I like is out of production and finding anything similar is difficult.
Generic full face helmets are dime a dozen, but a nice open "jet helmet" is difficult to find.

>>28813425
Are you gonna drop your next helmet instore like a can of soup to test durability but also lower the final price?
Like that one adam sandler movie; big shoomie

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>>28812166
>Literbikes over 900cc
If it's under 1000cc it's not a literbike, a 900cc cannot be a literbike.

>>28812927
Hayabusa
B-King
Hayabusa swapped dirtbike.

>>28812977
Don't think they're brass but they're Amals. I'll have a better idea what the issue was when I get the bike back.

>>28813239
Mesh gear is good for this. I've ridden around the Phoenix metro area in summer monsoon season and it wasn't too bad, relatively speaking.

>>28813434
Nah nah, none of that. I've dropped and banged around my current helmet for long enough to think about a replacement, even if I haven't had it for that long, maybe like 3 or 4 years thus far.

I do have another helmet that never expires, but it's kinda uncomfortable at highway speeds.

>>28812541
All my tours will be solo this year, wife not doing long distance.

I am putting a channel back up for spring. Far, far fewer videos but should be better. Will post the link when I get around to it. Thanks fren

>>28813437
Yeah, those are known as quart bikes.

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Listen and rejoice https://soundcloud.com/theoriginalspacecowboy/bakuon-ost-soundtrack

All the good posters, please return to /dbt/ please.

>>28813316
I spent a whole 0 dollars, and you've still yet to say ANYTHING of substance. Stupid bitch.

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>>28813537
>you've still yet to say ANYTHING of substance.
Uhh, I pointed out the thing with the bouncing of the forks before you started losing your shit kek. Don't forget you are a wrenchlet and you got ripped off.

>>28812927
Mine would look like this:
- GS/AT or equivalent for touring
- 600cc Super Sport or GSXR 750. Also, GSXR 1000. I think I'd like lightness more, haven't tried them so cannot comment.
- 125 Scoot or a Dizzer 400 SM to bop around. If a Dizzer, I can also use it off road which is awesome.

>>28813542
Yea I want a scoot too. You know the Yamaha vino has an engine, transmission and rear swingarm integrated into one super compact yet simple package. It's so pure and utilitarian.

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>>28813539
Suzuki should've made a Burgman 1000. Fuck you Suzuki!

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>>28813541
Projection, also you haven't said anything worth a damn to prove he's a "fraud"

I call you what you are and you think that's losing my shit. I've spent 0 dollars, you are just a stupid bitch and will forever remain that.

>>28813543
If I wanted with gear, I'd choose the mighty grom. I just like the underseat storage of the scoot. IDK, if I try the vino, I might like it.

>>28813547
I'm telling you dude just ask him for a refund politely, you want me to write the email out for you. I'm here to help wrenchlets.

>>28813550
I'm good, hope you highside off the mountain.
If he was a fraud, no track organizers would have him tinker with any attendees bikes and you know that. You just want (you)s

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Imagine falling for some boomers online suspension tuning scam lmao, 800 dollars per session holy fcukk
>go ahead and press on the bars like I showed ya
>Unf, unf, nya *barely compresses the forks*
>looks good kid, that'll be 8 HUNDRED dollars you can send it to my cash app

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>>28812927
>IMZ Ural for vibing
>A second Ural for when the 1st one breaks down
>An Izh Jupiter for when the second Ural is broken too
Perfection. Real talk, I couldn't think of a 3rd bike for a 3 bike "perfect" lineup, like maybe one of those 750 OHV Urals for when you want to go further than the mailbox without blowing up, but even then I'd rather just a 750 OHV drivetrain in an older IMZ frame, so a single Ural is enough.

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>p-p-post bike!!!
>I hope you FREAKING die!!!
dave moss #1 fan over here lmao, 800$/sesh

>>28813425
go to literally any motorbike gear shop and they'll have 100s

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You're just mad I got the digits and you didn't that's why you samefagged twice to get cool numbers for a heckin based posto.

>>28812927
>CB1100EX relaxed 1100cc UJM for croozing.
>ZRX1100 for sporty canyon/mountain/track day fun.
>XR650L for dual sport things.

You can sub the CB for your preferred UJM or cruiser, the ZRX for your preferred jap sport bike (900cc+ mandatory), or the XR for a DRZ if you must. No other alternatives are viable.

>>28813576
That's the issue, I did and they mostly have full faces on the shelves.
Finland always kinda sucked for motorcycle gear stores as they just aren't all that profitable, it's mostly just online retailers.

>>28813425
>>28813623
You really want a full face helmet. All studies of motorcycle accident injury and fatality show a very high prevalence of smashing the lower half of your face to bits. Wearing a helmet but leaving that part exposed would be like riding with a jacket but no pants or underwear. Gloves but no boots.

>>28813633
Just don't fall or crash lol

>>28813641
If that's your attitude, why wear a helmet at all?
lol, lmao

>>28813641
Just wear the gear AND just don't crash.
It's better to have it and never get it damaged compared to wishing you had it when you really needed it.

>>28813644
Legally required to wear a helmet, otherwise I wouldn't.
>You can just ride without
Cops will sideswipe me, causing a crash.

>>28813652
I see we've devolved as a thread to the "making a guy up to win an argument" stage of the internet.

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>>28812166
The liter/learner dichotomy poster will never understand the complete tranquility of the contented rider. My heart is heavy for you.

28813675
Plebbit cope

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>>28813720
>the complete tranquility of the contented rider
tranquilpilled
serenepilled
contentmentpilled
in my lane
in my powerband
flourishing

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I used to have one of these when I was a kid.
800 bucks, dodgy pics, no description aside for "sat for 5 years".
I don't care for jap bikes, but for some reason I have a slight soft spot for the old GPZ. Probably nostalgia.

>>28813743
GPZ900s are really cool bikes and can be built into really great easy to live with dailies. That one is probably pretty rough and whack but if you want a long term project you can improve bit by bit and enjoy experiencing it get better over time, it might be a good starting point.

>>28813755
I remember mine being total dogshit, every day something new and exciting was acting up. Either it was puking the coolant out or the carbs were flooding, the plugs went shit overnight or charging issues.
Ended up wrecking it when some asswipe decided to run a stop sign and pulled up in front of me.

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Is there any reason to go with a liter sport bike over a 600 other than ego? This isn't a reproach, I want a liter bike. They just seem like the real deal. Will it kill my back to ride for hours though? I've only ever had naked bikes.

>>28813783
Anyone who could actually derive real benefit from either a 600 or a 1000 already knows exactly which one they want. Either they're racing in a certain class, or they have other specific interests like the way they look. 600s are ridiculously fast and highly strung too, and will kill your back just as much. But most people who buy them really aren't getting the right bike.
99% of people will be just as fast and have more fun with a sport tourer or crossover. Or even just a sport bike that isn't a race replica.

Personally I'd buy a CB1000GT. Incredible bargain, and you get a (slightly older) supersport engine with all of the modern electronics. But I realise they aren't for the average supersport buyer.

800$/ for a phone session dude

>>28813652
So you only wear a helmet because you legally have to, but you still care if it's expired?

>>28813813
What the fuck is this shit about helmets expiring? You mean you dropped it and it's now fucked?

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>>28813783
>Is there any reason
if you live in texas or california, or plan to actually race on track
for casual/street riding or doing twisties, even the new hornet is realistically overkill, but BIGGER IS BETTER BIG BRAP BRAP DICKWAVING CONTEST

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>>28812166
How much is too much to pay for a new fuel tank? I have a bike that was wrecked by a previous owner, and the fuel tank has a couple of dents on both sides. I have found a NOS replacement with the exact colorway listed for $950, and I was thinking of offering $700. On one hand, it feels ludicrous to pay that much; but on the other hand, the tank is the last fucked up piece on this bike. I don't even know if I'm looking at it with the correct perspective of "worth it." Do I care about resale value? Would this be important for that sort of thing? It was a one year only color, and I never expected to cross paths with a replacement. I have a plastic tank cover with my set of new fairings I haven't put on yet.
just thinking out loud here

>>28813437
Actually 0.9 does in fact equal 1.
A 900cc IS a litre bike, mathematically, and in reality.

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>>28813783
When I think about getting a liter bike (zx-14, hayabusa, blackbird), I am imagining running from the PO-LICE at 180mph or blasting across the desert.

>>28813783
600 is a great learner bike, and a 600RR is the standard for a learner. It gets you ready for a literbike, which has much more power and at over 900cc's is twice the size.

>>28813836
>What the fuck is this shit about helmets expiring?
No-bike

>>28813900
Not quite, it's a quart bike which is getting there, but it's still a learner bike at most.

>>28813836
crisper drawer in the fridge at a minimum

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>>28813900
>0.9 does in fact equal 1

>>28813906
I know a guy who started on a 125 for 6 months before jumping straight to a 600, then a GSXR-750, and now has an R1. We did a riding course together on a track, and I would have been able to lap him on my Ninja 250 if overtaking was allowed. He rode like an absolute grandma. He couldn't grasp the idea of rev match downshifts, because I guess he was just barely even shifting to begin with.

>>28813539
We came pretty close with hondas xadv 750cc motor
Alas, maybe someone has bored one out and slapled a turbo- and still goes offroading

>>28813851
Heehaw

>>28813963
>I totally could have lapped this one guy on his 170mph r1 with my 80mph 250 guise i swear
No, you couldn't lol

>>28813912
Quarts are like 1100cc, so its pretty close.

>>28813905
>zx-14, hayabusa, blackbird
I love these liter bikes

>>28814013
No you don't understand, I was originally in front of him in the free riding section of the course, and then I made it all the way around the track and was behind him.

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Dave Moss Tuning

>>28813905
You can run but you cant hide

>>28813160
>long AK rivet hiding in your engine

post pics of ur gear. im trying to buy a new jacket for the summer and i'm looking for inspo

>>28814146
Post your bike so we can get an idea of what would match it

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>>28814194
kinda fruity to match gear to a bike tbhqh.
i got this wr with sumos for more street shit. peeling off the graphics some time in the near future. i've only got dirt gear currently.

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>>28814200
If you’re looking for “inspo” for gear you’re already well within the realm of fruity already.
I like my John Doe kevlar hoodie and pants, less restrictive than typical moto gear and lets you avoid looking like a cosplay when you step off the bike. Good for round town riding imo.
Technically loses some of the safety of more practical gear but it holds up in a slide which is all you can ask for really

>Random heat wave bumps temps up to the 80s
>Pull out my mesh jacket to go for a ride
>The shoulder armor crumbles in my hand when I take it off the hanger

Damn, 11 years was a good run for it. Time to buy some new pads I guess. I've also been considering wearing separate armor instead of integrated armor, so now might be a good opportunity to try it out.

>>28814217
>Laughs in 80f and 80% humidity
To that point, though, I picked up my dirtbike helmet after not using it for a couple years and it just aggressively exploded in powder when I shook it for Weta's.
Serves me right for never washing it I guess.

>>28814205
>If you’re looking for “inspo” for gear you’re already well within the realm of fruity already.
lmao rekt

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Nu server, baked Fresh, get in while it's hot and the stragglers trickle in.
https://discord.gg/rsjrBNVc
GENTLEMEN, the Official server of DBT has once again been rebooted, the door is open for you to get in on the ground floor.
Eccentrics, enthusiasts, the mentally feeble, lurkers with fedposts for names, Australians; THE GATES ARE OPEN
>Real time trail-side KTM electrical issue prayer circle support
>Open heart shitbike surgery and machine spirit guidance tips and tricks
>Intensive first hand study of altered states of consciousness and how they relate to cranking hawg
>Dedicated 24/7 spoonfeeding for the uninitiated and broke in choosing their starter bike and hitting the freeway
>Competent resources for wrenching, racing, and characters from Coast to Coast to do it with
We have nothing left to lose and you have everything to gain!
We lost our schizos and trannies in a tragic purge last year and can only hope for a brighter tomorrow, any spirited human capital is appreciated and referrals to your local scooter commuting crack connoisseur are encouraged, namefags need not apply

>>28814262
I went in and eveyone is talking about skiing and bicycles
I asked about motorcycles and a gay man told me to fuck off

>>28814263
Sounds accurate, old server had an exodus yesterday expressly to get out from under the gay guy, just need people to keep the momentum moving so it can be properly pruned, and it's the off season anyway there's only so many people riding right now in the states. TRUST

>>28814262
Lame

>>28814275
Gay

New Learner thread is up, for those interested in learner bikes under 900cc. enjoy lads
>>28814286

>>28814262
>chameleon tranny tries to force people into his discord gay chat room
>because he can't force people to post how he wants on 4chan
lel

>>28814291
I posted on 4chan before I found the original DBT discord and I made my account expressly to access it, nice headcannon but I'm earnestly just trying to find more people to join the 4chan motorcyling group I've been in for years because it could use some new blood

>>28814293
>writes exactly like Chameleon, using exact same habits
>is seething because he can't force people on 4chan to post how he wants
>thinks "I can control them on discord"
>"N-NUH UH... IM N-OT THAT GUY I SWEAR- J-JOIN MY CHATROOM INSTEAD OF 4CHAN GUYS"

absolutely MINDBROKEN TRANNY

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epic wholesome reddit chungus bros

28814262
28814291
schizofaggot replying to himself pretend he didnt post the discord link lmfao
and imagine my shock, bot generals are being spammed by the same faggot who's trying to remove our board mandated sticky from the OP
jannies need to honestly rangeban canada

>>28814297
>board mandated sticky
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO POST HOW I LIKE!!!
>join my discord chat instead guise. Please!?
lol, lmao even

your sticky is shit, and you can't post bike

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>guy makes a "learner thread"
>removes the stinky
>its literally a tldr on beginner bikes and biking

what is it with nufags

>>28814295
Nigger are the transsexuals vying for control over your 4chan posts living in your walls? I'm not writing like I owe this website anything and I'm cognizant of the fact that it's out of place here but what crevice of your ass are you pulling this out of? Just articulate whatever reason you have for being this much of a sperg outside of baiting the discord tranny that you've already decided I am, at best it's because I'm trying to be superficially nice and persuasive. You're a paranoid faggot. Go ahead and click through to the server and drop a video of some africans butchering eachother with machetes and then do another where you post whatever you think the omnipresent discord tranny subverters of /o/'s Daily Bike Thread would ban you on the spot for and you won't get the slightest pushback. The trannies left last year, I said this.

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>>28814309
>Chameleon mad his shithouse sticky is removed.
Its because its shit.
Now try and stay on topic, the quality of posts is of the utmost importance on this board.

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oh look, inane schizophrenic rambling with 0 relation and random stock images to try and populate the thread

where have we seen that one before, melon tranny?

stop trying to get people to post how you want them to on 4chan ;)

>>28814312
spoilers there is no "discord tranny"
he's legitimately schizophrenic and retarded, he's been at this for months now trying to take down an evil bogeyman who "makes all the threads with a javascript"
when all people want is the OP to be consistent and not have random shit like the map removed
if you go back to about oct/nov you can see when people start insulting him and like a legitimate freakture, he's started copying other peoples insults to pretend hes not himself, which has resulted in him schizophrenically calling everyone a chameleon, when originally it was the shroom retard calling HIM a chameleon

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>>28814322
I haven't been up on these developments and I can't vouch for either side here but that's exactly what a discord tranny playing cover for making threads with Javascript would say

>>28814322
DESU I thought this new Tā was a bot, reading its post it just looks like bot typing it out.

>>28814262
Kill yourself

>>28814295
Never falling for that shit again hes such a shapeshifter

>>28814344
Sir, I think you've got the sort of attitude we could really use in our Discord server, would you care to expound on why I should kill myself?

Is it safe to booze crooze on a Harley because they're so slow? Obviously wouldn't dare on a true liter bike.

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Fucking hell that was a bigger hurdle than I anticipated, but I now have racks for the ammo cans.
Absolute bitch to get them on and off, the racks I mean, but I gotra do it once more to give them some finishing touches and paint them.
I've also lost all 4 of my 13mm ratchet spanners, can't fit a socket inside the mudguard and unbolting them with a regular spanner takes a good 20 minutes.

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Suzuki

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OP is a tranny nobike who's killing DBT with his threads

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>>28814402
I just want to ride my zx14r some time in the near future; but you and other Signs of God have me planning a different path
I guess motorcycles only belong on the racetrack personally, i need to become a nobike again so that someone else may have joy with mine
Can you do that even if you gives them a brokened one, the crf?
I guess theres father time and son time where they fix the dual sport together, but alas, the one i wanted to give it to for that clause, his father is dead

Who among /dbt/ can handle the zx14r?
Do (((you))) want it?

>>28814402
Post bike, hand and timestamp, chameleon

>>28814402
incredible its taken people a month of his spamming to realise this

>>28814437
Both threads are doing fine though?

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I dont care what the tranny thinks im still going to post 125s in /dbt/

>>28814383
>realizing when this and the xr650 finally cease production, that's the end of the Baja desert racers, and then the yz450's dominance will be complete.

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>>28814439
yeah man the "learner" thread that specifically hides the /dbt/ sticky which is literally "so you're a learner, read this" pasta
nobody asked for this, nobody wants this, he populated the first 5-15 posts with stock pictures and random chatgpt shit and then unfortunate people get tricked in to posting there
meanwhile the other 6 generals he tried to make all died before 3 full cycles

>>28814453
dont waste your time posting in there
let the thread die a death and the faggot will disappear to "troll" other boards

>>28814458
Just search for dbt or setup a pin for the term and you'll get both threads. The threads also link eachother for finding one will lead you to the other. Unless you're mentally disabled this is a non issue.

>>28814462
what about we just have one /dbt/ thread like we have done for years?

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>>28814466
Time machine pills

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Failed my MSF basic rider’s course. Not confident I would pass it if I took it again, and even if I did, not confident I would be confident on a bike.
Is there any way for me to get more involved coaching as a complete beginner? like one on one with a trainer in a class where I can keep repeating exercises until I’m confident, instead of moving on at the scheduled time.

>>28814471
Yeah, borrow.someone else's motorcycle and practice on it for a day, tops, and you'll pass with flying colors. The US is fucking retarded in this as there is an unsppken rule that they expect you to have been riding illegally for just long enough to have the basics down before you try and get legal.

Barring that, call the company doing the MSF and ask for a private lesson on the parts you failed. Some places will do it for a small fee, some might do it for free.

>>28814471
Lurk the learner threads for based learnerchad tips and hints.
>>28814286

>>2881447
buy a cheap bike and practice in a parkinglot or a field.

Even better: dr650 and ride in the woods. The road will be ezpz, and youll have a bike too.

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>>28814439
Lol this.
They have been the two most popular threads on /o/ since we got rid of chameleon tramny's lame, boring copy paste "you have to post in one thread because i say so" threads lol.
Yet still he comes here and cries every. Single. Day.

>>28814466
Do you have a good reason other than "thats how we've always done it"?

>>28814481
Learners arent going to learn anything from other learners who them selves know very little about how everything works

Why not have anons who have done all this shit in the same thread that could maybe actually help people getting their big boy licences?

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>>28814487
Learners are doing fine in the learner threads chameleon.
But don't forget, you are here forever.
Post bike, hand and timestamp.
You won't.
See you tomorrow, loser

>>28814479
I am new to dbt but not new to /o/. I dont know what it was like before the split, but coming in as a fresh of set eyes it looks like both threads have grown rapidly to cater to their relative skill levels instead of trying to be a catch all thread for everyone on two wheels.
Im not even a bike fag and I find myself participating because the quality of discourse in either thread outclasses the entire board. The day to day sperging about the thread splitting is seriously the only low quality posting ive seen out of either general.
>>28814487
>Learners arent going to learn anything from other learners who them selves know very little about how everything works
Good thing the threads link eachother, and literfags can freely lurk and post in the learner threads as well, which they have been doing. Im trying to be charitable but your reasoning is just not good and easy to pick apart.

>>28814491
>cater to their relative skill levels
Bro, we just post in whichever one is on top currently. Maybe check both if one has slowed down a bit. It's not that complicated.

>>28814496
>we
Who is we?

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>>28814491
had a quick look in the learner thread since its doing so well

Its just one anon calling everyone a faggot whos not riding a 600+cc bike

>>28814502
You, me, and those guys over there.

>>28814503
Sounds like a learner thread

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>>28814383
hot

>>28814455
WTF? Didn't you die of AIDS in south America or something??

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What bike is Country Mac riding?

>>28814506
kek

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>>28814383
>>28814507
90s dual sport riders, untie!

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>this whole time i thought learner and leaderbike mitosis was the work of the chameleon tranny
>turns out the united front and javascript jihad against the main thread was actually the tranny
WHO HAS MY TIME MACHINE PILLS
WHO
HAS
THEM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GIVE ME WHOLESOME DBT BACK
ID TAKE PINK HORNY SHITPOSTER OVER THIS GAYNESS, THIS IS TEN TIMES GAYER
AHHHHHHHHHHH
MEDS
MEDS NOW
ANS THE ONLY MEDS I NEED ARE TIME MACHINE PILLS


MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOP

AHHHHHHHHH

>>28814550
Stop sperging

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15/19 posts are by the same guy in the "learner" thread


>>28814462
reading comprehension
its people who arent regulars to /dbt/ who are getting tricked into the wrong thread, because they dont know the current retard schizo drama
thus nullifying any actual "usefulness" of a "learner" thread because the only people posting there are the clueless and the schizo

>>28814550
youre part of the problem with your autistic retard schizorants encouraging the other faggot, you retarded nigger

>>28814503
the retard spamming that thread rides a 390 duke btw
he has no idea what hes talking about and is giving bad and dangerous advice to people who may genuinly want to learn, but find themselves in that thread because they dont know we've got a retard spamming thread segregation

>>28814568
>>28814566
>>28814550
>Chameleon tranny continues to seethe
>still thinks all the internet is just one guy
>Outs himself by ranting about some mythical 390 rider
kek MINDBROKEN
now try to stay on topic, this is a literbike thread, not a "crying that people dont post the way you want them to" thread

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w3w. some organic thread that

>>28814262
get fucked discordtroon
anyone who joins this server is marked

>>28814566
Brother you are a wrenchlet

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>>28814539
it's a 2020 :P

>>28814607
We should make /dbt-o/ daily offroad bike thread.
Who's baking?

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Bring bacc dsg - ( daily scoot general )!!!

28814607
28814610
Shut up! I want everyone posting back how i want them to. Okay!?

>>28814612
Agreed. Scootgen was a comfy thread

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>>28814610
Nah, no need to have more than this one :*

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>>28814610
Now that's a thread i can get behind.
Fuck talking about getting knee down.
Some one make it happen

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>>28814551
I cant bros life is too much in snowland
>>28814568
>youre part od the problem
I just wana go back to better times, alas everything sucks now
>>28814571
>apparently i am chameleon tranny now, also
FUCKING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
IM GONNA TAKE A LETHAL DOSE AND KILL BOTH CURSED THUBMS TIMELINES AND SHOOMER TIMELINES AND NEVER EVER RIDE A MOTORCYCLE
Again
AGAIN

>>28814617
>Posting a 250 in a literbike thread
Might as well post your mid 2000's gm in the Classic Car General too.
Actually, why isn't the whole board just one big thread?

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>>28814627
Wrong thread, this is not the thread

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>>28814632
DONT USE MY ANXIETY AGAINST ME
NOBIKE NOBIKE NOBIKE
AHHHHHHHH

>>28814629
thats a 400, you nobike chameleon tranny.

>>28814651
So... Not a litre, huh. Yet you wish to pretend to.be something you are not.
Fascinating
>400 lel

>>28814646
Relax bro, its all good. You have had since November to aclimatise.

>>28814653
thats not my bike, but you would know what that bike was if you werent a chameleon nobike tranny, you chameleon nobike tranny.
youve been found out

>>28814659
>thats not my bike
Imagine my surprise.
>chameleon tranny outs himself again and starts calling others chameleon tranny
lol, you really are mind broken
You don't even realise you are chameleon tranny, do you?

Post bike, hand, and timestamp.
You can't.

>inb4 he rants about some kid from Canada with a 390

lmao look at him cry.
>words words words
bake some more threads please, and throw in a nobike thread just for you. nobike chameleon tranny

>>28814664
The schizophrenic has never posted bike.
Just the same copy paste thread every day for two years.

>>28814220
When I lived in Phoenix, I used to ride around during the summer monsoons. 110 degrees and 90% relative fucking sucks even with full mesh gear worn over skivvies. I do not miss that shit at all.

>>28814309
This is good advice, but is a bit outdated in terms of bike model recommendation and could use a refresh to cover the various 300cc models and other starter friendly bikes that have popped up in the years since this was made. It'd also be great to see a version that doesn't focus on sport bikes specifically since what constitutes a good starter can vary a lot depending on the purpose of the bike (IE - A DR650 is a better starter dual sport than a CRF450L despite being the same cylinder count and a larger capacity).
I can't complain too much, though, since I'm too lazy to do it myself

>>28814673
>This is good advice
Lol no, its utter shit.
Getting rid of that has been long overdue.

>>28814675
youre a retarded faggot
kill yourself

>>28814674
How can you do that when you have no bike?

>>28814674
>chameleon tranny proves he is just samefagging all the time
whoa, that's a big shock.
nice self-pwn

>>28814675
I disagree. It's great advice.

>>28814675
Agreed fuck that.
Whoever wrote that need to have a word with themselves.
The lads in the last few learner threads are working on a new one anyway. It's much better.

>>28814673
>I can't complain too much, though, since I'm too lazy to do it myself
thats why it is, and has been, the sticky for like 6 years now
anyone who disagrees its good advice (the skinwalker freak) doesnt actually ride

28814675
28814707
look how he has to samefag to try and manufacture agreement
look how he has to lie that "a new one" is being made

Can any ADVfags recommend some good separate upper leg and knee armor to look into? I just got a Leatt 5.5 body protector for upper body and Gaerne Enduros for my feet and lower legs, but don't see an obvious choice for hip, upper leg, and knee protection yet.

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wholesome chungus
28/32 posts in the "learner" thread are all from 1 guy
even replying to himself

>>28814729
One must wonder if it's just autism or if it's actual schizophrenia and he thinks he's talking to multiple people.

>>28814402
why aren't jannies handling this shit?

>>28814738
legit narcissism and a little sabotage

>>28814471
There are lots of places that do 1-on-1 training if you want it. What specifically was giving you trouble?

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>>28814678
>wrenchlet
>nobike
pick one, retard
oh wait, youre a skinwalking poser so you dont actually understand what wrenchlet means, so just drivel your shitspeak all over the thread while pretending to be some hotshot
find a tall tree and a short rope

>>28814473
>>28814477
No friends with bikes to borrow. I could buy one but I’m worried about getting it home from wherever I buy it given how I now feel about my skills.
>>28814789
Using the clutch and shifter while trying to do anything else. I kinda had a handle on it in a straight line and gentle curves, but as soon as it was clutch control during U turns, downshifting during braking, etc. I fell apart.

>>28814729
>>28814738
>>28814739
>>28814751
>>28814797
>mad chameleon samefag being mad
Lol, Lmao even

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>>28812166
>125's ARE just scooters
>black people ARE just niggas

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>>28814797
Brother, everyone here would love to skin this BCtard alive.
Don't give it (you)s, don't even acknowledge it's existence.

>>28814830
>lil bro keeps samefagging and talking to himself
topkek

>>28814804
Okay, it sounds like you're completely new to motorcycling, which is totally fine. A day with a cheap bike and an empty space like an unused parking lot will do wonders since sounds like you just don't have the coordination and muscle memory built up yet, which can be overcome by just practicing. Finding some one-on-one training would probably help as well, especially since you know what your weak areas are so the instructor knows specifically what to target. Doing it in an environment where you don't have to worry about it counting as your skills test can take some of the pressure off and make retaining the information easier as well.
For bikes, I'd recommend something like a TW200 to practice on. It's got a low seat height and it's built to fuck around off-road so it won't give a shit if it gets dropped a few times. The power and gearing insures that you'll be doing plenty of shifting, even at parking lot speeds, so you can build that muscle memory while still staying relatively slow. Best of all, they're ridiculously fun little dual sport bikes, so you may even want to keep it even after you move on and get something bigger and more highway capable.
Rent or borrow a pickup or something if you're worried about getting it home.

>come to the liter bike thread
>240 posts
>200 of the are chamelion trooning out

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Is this the end of /dbt/? Is it finally over?

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>>28814854
post litres

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tasteful litre

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Attractive litres

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Red litre

so he's now using the same tactics of spamming threads with pointless stock photos and inane posts
just to push us towards bump limit, when we're still 60 posts away

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Top Gun litre bike

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Bri'ish li're bike

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ah boy I haven't been to /dbt/ in months, let's see if the same couple losers are still having a retard fight and making it a shithole aaaaand see you in a few more months

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>chameleon getting rattled by people actually posting liter bikes
>In a liter bike thread

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Boat litre

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Urban litre

>>28812173
600's are MUCH slower.
That's why they are recommended as "first bikes."
This guy has it right.
>>28812182

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>>28814890
What a hottie
I want to collect all of them.

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>>28814925
Based trumpeter.
Welcome back

>>28814919
No, it's retarded. It's like saying you're not a real driver unless your car engine has at least 5 L of displacement.
It makes the separation at 600cc stupid as well. According to your logic, if someone rides a 600cc bike for 10 years is a learner, but some idiot who has just passed the test and bought a liter bike is not.

>>28814932

No, you just have poor reading comprehension.
600's are the recommended starter bikes for new riders.
900+cc's are considered to be advanced bikes, recommended for experienced riders.
Nothing says you are not a real rider if you ride a 600, just that new riders are best starting on a 600.

>>28814507
>>28814539
gigabased

>>28814932
He's posting retarded shit on purpose to make you mad, anon. Just ignore him and don't give him (You)'s. There are still some regular anons to interact with in here.

>>28814507
>Local cyclist shitting up the twisties by riding up hill on a road with little-to-no shoulder and blind curves everywhere

These faggots pop up on the Sunrise Highway in east San Diego county all the time. I'm surprised they haven't gotten smoked by a teenager in a BMW yet.

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>>28812173
>>28814919
My old Fireblade is faster in the straights than my mates gixxer 600. When we exit the corner I walk away from him, even though my bike is down on power (worn out cam shafts and an unknown tune).
But his newer bike handles a lot better (and he's a better rider), so at the race track his fastest lap was 2.5 seconds better than mine. We didn't swap bikes so I don't know if I'm faster on his 600, but it's possible.
This video puts it pretty well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlX1zsw-2Zs
The professional on a Ninja 500 was just as fast as the average rider on a Panigale.

That's if your riding on the race track. For street riding I still prefer my Fireblade because when you pull that throttle you always have power. On the 600, if you're cruising at lower revs it really has nothing. It makes the Fireblade feel more casual and easy going because you don't feel the need to rev it up all the time. Still love the gixxer though.
It's hard to say one it better than the other because they both have pros and cons. If I wasn't given the choice then I'd be happy with either.

>>28814961
I can't bring myself to hate cyclists though. Mofos can be slow, but they're out there with the same risks as anyone else on two wheels, but with less protective gear and while being out of breath.

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>>28814929
Yaaaa
All the pre 2010ish triumph's need loving <3
They made them pretty and special. League of their own status.

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>>28814978
How about a cheeky half faired RS?

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>>28814987
100% gorgeous
Sprints are sex, the RS and the ST with the single side swingarm

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>>28814991
Speed 3

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>>28815004
Still stunning.
I see those come up for sale every now and again in that wild lime green color. Even with those front lights it's still so good.

>>28814976
It's okay, I can hate them enough for both of us.

>>28814974
>>28814932
he's baiting, and then replying to himself
just report him and move on
its the canadian retard trying to make separate threads

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>>28814991
>be amerigun
>get a bike with a union flag on it

>>28814974
Bretty well described.
The 900 liter just has a ton more power available throughout the rev range.
You have to wring the shit out of 600's to make them go fast, hence they are the standard learner bike.

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35/39 posts, 1 guy
just bumping his dead thread
pathetically squealing for attention

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>>28815023
>900 liter

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>>28815019
Brother, I wear a fucking Belstaff for winter here. UK biking culture is just less of a niche than ours. Doesn't mean I still don't talk shit about the crown and rep pic related every July 4th though.

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Uhhh, any rider aids bros...?

>>28815027
I love how it went from you posting the same shit every day to just seething every day. It's so beautiful, I live for this.
>>28812166
Great job thank you for everything. Bring back scoot general pls.

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>>28814974
><road6

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>>28815231
I like the S23s more now

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>>28815238
>s23

>>28815243
I'm thinking of trying the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 4 Corsa next

>>28815248
trying new tires is fun but i like to keep buying the same set unless theres a genuine upgrade such as a ((((("""""new""""")))) compound or some shit.

i'm learning street bike (coming from dirt bike). unfortunately i'm in the city. what's the best time to ride to avoid getting turned into meat paste by daydrinking moms and uninsured ethnics?

>>28815248
Pirellis shit all over Bridgestone and their cruiser profile.

>>28815261
Depends when rush hour is for your specfic area. Try to go before then. Avoid low hanging sun time.

>>28815261
Rush hour is unironically the time when people are paying the most attention, old people and alcoholics wait for the morning rush to end before they go out to terrorise the streets.

>>28815253
I haven't tried many street tyres so I'm still working out what I like.
The road 6 was great while I was commuting, but I feel like they wouldn't have been as good on the track as the S23.

new thread is up lads.
enjoy
>>28815363

>>28815271
great wet tire, but agree

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Off road liter

>>28815365
this nigro is retarded

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How about my tires? I dont really lean around corners to be quite honest family

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I just never really learned how to lean.

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Guess i might have to hop on a 600 for a while, amd join the learner thread to do some bike-learnin

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>I went to the liter zone

>>28815373
>>28815374
>>28815375
Looks fine, why are you so hard on yourself?

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>>28815380

>>28815384
Yeah that's a tire anon, nothing seems out of the ordinary. Why trash yourself? That's a sweet stable esp the RC

This thread is almost dead lads.
New one is here:
>>28815363
Enjoy

>>28815385
Its the chicken strips.
I get bullied by other anons about them and now i have a complex

>>28815389
What does a food have to do with a motorcycle? Bike looks clean, how many miles does it have

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IOM

>>28815393
Fire cans, what brand? Akra?

>>28815395
Delkevic.
Just wish i could learn the counter steering thing everyone talks about

>>28815399
Very cool, got a sound clip?
>>28815394
Damn you even have a erion fireblade? Save the fake humility you got baller bikes anon anyone would kill to have those. How many miles do the rc and blade got?

No answer, must be the tranny. Who's bikes are those then?

Im still waiting for the real thread to appear
I need a consensus of approval from several chameleon javascript jihadis to confirm it doesnt have aids

>>28815373
>>28815374
>>28815384
those catadioptrics are kino wtf