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>>2701963Love me moraknivs. Simple as.
I have a knockoff kerhsaw I got for a couple bucks. Cool little edc knife but it's so dull. How do you guys sharpen? A ceramic rod + leather strop
>>2702036nothin personal kid
all u need
>>2702167>very hard to sharpen>dulls extremely fast>somehow memed into being a good knifeI will concede it really excells in aesthetics, which matters little when it comes to function
Threadly reminder
>>2702169I have a high carbon Mora companion in the mail because of you faggots. I hope you're happy.
>>2702168>>dulls extremely fastWhat are you talking about?
>>2702184Hope it’s the doughnut one
>>2702184Moraknivs are simply the best knives to invest into if you are practically minded.I loved them before I ever used the /out/ board, and with good reason.We have 3 knives we use in commercial fishing.Victrinox pairing serated knives are great for being excessively sharp right out of the box, and they're dirt cheap. They last about a week and half before we replace them.This is the knife we carry 24/7.We have knives for j-cutting, they need to be resharpened and honed frequently to be effective,but they last forever.Then there is the fucking morakniv.We stab 1-2 millions of pounds of cod in the gillplates over the course of 3-4 months every year.We only use moraknivs. The entire cod fishing fleet.They are cheap and expendable and easy to stockpile.They can be sharpened and maintained easy enough.After stabbing 1000's of cod, the only knife deformity will be a small curve on the knife tip before it breaks off, about 1/16".Thing will still stab great though.We only need replace them when an idiot loses his.I use my moras daily as steak knives when I'm home.
>>2702168can't tell if you're stupid or trolling. this knife is over 30 years old. you think its hard to sharpen? you think it dulls fast? learn to sharpen , dumb fuck. matter of fact, post your sharpeners. you won't. because you use a dollar store pull thru. fuck you.
>>2702306Ive never owned a pull through in my life. I use diamond plates, and a smooth and grooved steel hone for maintenance. I use to sharpen knives for extra money. I know MUCH MUCH more than you about sharpening i assure you. The steel they use for most Bucks do not form or hold an edge well. Now go to bed you literal child, its way past your bedtime
That's not a knife. THIS is a knife.
>>2702521That's not a knife, that's a penny.
>>2702521Lol come back when you break the tip off like every other spyderco owner eventually
>>2702518used to this, used to that.post your setup 420HC is fine
Team red>plain blade>corkscrew Team green >half serrated chiselground blade>Phillips screwdriver Choose your fighter
>>2702583none, my ideal sak doesnt exist and i dont want to buy 3 for a custom
>>2702587whats your ideal?
>>2702594electrician with pliers and a narrow ground bottleopener for recessed screwsi lerned a decade ago a small retailers ordered a custom batch of such a model
>>2702583Green, just because I think this is the proper way to do a partially serrated blade.
>>2702597if i were you, i would just get a Opinel DIY or a milwakee fastback 4-1 and a smaller multitool, like a leatherman juice
>>2702606thats missing the point of having your ideal tools on one slim and light multitool. if bulk is no consideration i could have those tools on the swiss champ
>>2702583Obviously screwdriver and grind out the serrations
>>2702655too shorttoo fatits fucking useless, only thing going for it is torque
>>2702537I said i use to sharpen knives as a side business. I still hone alot of my knives daily. Again, like the fucking original post you replied to said, i use diamond plates, and a grooved/smooth steel hone. Can you not read you dumb nigger? 420hc sucks balls. D2 and S30v for pocket knives. Cheap stainless thats easy to hone for butchering and kitchen knives. Burn in hell
>>2702606God Opinels are so ugly
>>2702666Then it's a perfect match for most of the anons on this board
>>2702672thats fucking fighting words
>>2702667post pictures then? shouldn't be too hard should it? nice LARP buddy. also don't ever use racist slurs with me.
>>2702583Team Rucksack>side lock>no obnoxious thumb hole>plain blade>corkscrew
This costs €40...
>>2702688And somehow this costs €100Anyone know why?2nd is ENT (158-LC)1st is 119LBoth CudemanI can't see a difference other than blade shape which obviously doesn't justify an extra 50 so if anyone else knows please tell
can you take the cock out of your mouth? you are hard to understand
>>2702692My cock can't fit in my mouth or your wife's
>>2702683Im not wasting 30 seconds of my life to take a picture because a dumb nigger such as yourself thinks im lying about having a couple diamond plates and a 15 dollar victorniox hone?? Like wtf is wrong with you, you NIGGER.
>>2702677I stand by my original statement
>>2702688>>2702689>anyone know whyThe garnish really drives up the price.I like the first one better anyway.
>>2702666I use it literally every day. It's the perfect screwdriver for adjusting hinges. I can't think of the last time some faggot needed to open a bottle of wine with a cork, even if you use the screwdriver 3x a year it's still a better use of space than a fucking corkscrew.
>>2702702lrn 2 sharpen lmao
What do cardboard-cutting tools and collectibles have to do with outdoors?
>>2702684>side lockWrong>no obnoxious thumb holeWrong>plain bladeCorrect>corkscrewWrong
>>2702683Do not feed the troll.
I love me Compact.
>>2702688>>2702689the Mo-Va steel on the first one is something like a 420 or 420hc and has just 55 hrc, meanwhile N690Co is a proper decent steel (a lot like VG10) and is gonna be closer to 60hrc which makes a world of difference. the sheath on the second also looks more complicated and appears to include a sharpening stone. there could be more difference in manufacturing /finishing quality too but that's hard to tell.
>>2702770>side lockIt's not so much better as the liner lock is worse>thumbholeLarge and heavy and in the way.>plain bladeAt least we can agree on this, yes?>corkscrewThe Phillips is redundant with the can opener, and the orientation of the back Phillips sucks balls to the max when you have to bear down on the screw.
>>2702843are you seriously saying that a hole is heavy and in the way?
>>2702840The pen is a nice idea. How long does it typically last?
>>2702849Yes baby.The liner lock adds an additional layer to the knife. The thumb hole makes it awkward to use the saw, gripping the closed blade in the handle creating hotspots, leading to blisters.I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
The Spyderco Paramilitary 2 and 3 are great knives for everyday carry
>>2702713Maybe idk>>2702842I didn't notice the steel was that different thanks for sayingI'll get that then thx
For me, it's the ontario RAT 2
>>2702949Aus8 and d2 are both kinda suck but not bad for a classic budget knife like the rat.
I bought an opinel 10 and its bigger than I thoughtI thought it might have been too small but it looks ridiculous for edc in my temporary hustle and bustle in the city
>>2703134well yeah. the 10 stands for 10 centimeters of blade length, so 4 inches.for daily carry I'd say 8 tops, I have a 9 and it feels quite large already. since the opinels handle is cylindrical instead of flat, it grows in all three dimensions much more noticeably than most folders do. you feel it in the pocket.
>>2703134>>2703204got #7 and its perfect for edc. i peel apples and shit for breakfast with it.
Just bought the Benchmade 940-2 Osborne. So far it's really nice.I just question the Axis Lock's omega springs. I hear stories of them breaking on people.
>>2703010>Aus8 and d2 are both kinda suckWhat are you people using your knife for that requires steel stronger than those you mentioned?? Are you people bush crafting? Are you cutting tubes all day long? Prying things open constantly? Why do I feel like 99% of all knife people use their knife to open up Amazon packages.
>>2703134I wanted an opinel for years and I finally got one for a trip to Patagonia. It worked fine for a few days, but after being out in the damp and after about 5 days of heavy use, the wood swelled up and the it became impossible to close. My day was ruined and my dissapointment was immeasurable.
>>2703506the goal posts have moved a lot with the introduction of 'super steels' out there like M390, 20CV, etc. That being said, cardboard dulls the shit out of your knife, so having a steel with better edge retention isnt a bad thing. That also being said, you can maintain a very sharp edge with D2 if you strop it regularly
>>2703597I think i'm going to stick to $60-$100 knives instead. I just spend $240 on the 940 Osborne and I kind of regret it to be honest.
>>2703504I've beaten the absolute shit out of my minigrip for like 15 years, no issues. No one I know who's had a benchmade with an axis lock has had a problem with the springs. That shit is either a small batch defect thing or a meme.
>>2702137>chinese knifeThey start out like razor but hard to resharpen, steel very hard. You need 2 whetstones (medium & fine) to bring them back.
>>2702168>dulls extremely fastMany reasons to not like Buck (slippery handle when wet, blade thickness) but they hold an edge. Hard to resharpen if using anything other than a whetstone. Ceramic rod or v-scraper won't do it.
Alright boys, honepill me on a sharpening setup.
>>2703813A whetstone
>>2703813oil based system>messy and hassle clean up>steel and handle loves it>long-lasting, set it and forget it in storage>kinowater based system>easy clean up>have to pay more attention cleaning and drying blade and handle materials>"have to" soak the stones before useI would use water and diamond plates if I could only have one way of doing it because they are easy to use and replace.
>>2702876Never had to change mine, but it's not like I use it often, maybe 3 times a year, had the pen for 10 years maybe more.
I just found this SOG. Never seen it before and I can't find much information about it. If interested I can post more pictures. But I assume it's a concept knife from the company. Did I stumble across something valuable?
>>2703917>valuableI doubt it. Looks like a beater.
>>2703917it's a production model, not a concept/prototype.but made in Japan (from what I can find) and in ATS-34, it's definitely not a cheapo.
>>2703917chuck it in the bin
>>2703813Recently looked into this. Growing up I had some big but beat up stones my grandpa had given me out of a machine shop and a few grocery store stones. Settled on the King 1000/6000 stone you can get on Amazon for ~$35 as there were plenty of recommendations for it online as a "starter" stone. Did a pocket knife with some kind of 440 stainless first and it was predictably very slow to grind but worked out. Worked my way through the kitchen block of softer stainless (not sure exactly what as there's no stamp) and those only took a few minutes each. After getting those 5 blades to ad paper slicing sharpness there is some irregularities in the 1000 side as it makes alot of sludge so I ordered an Atoma 140 diamond plate stone to use as a lapper and for extreme edge reworks but it's not here yet. From my limited use I would recommend the King for the price but you will need some way to resurface it even if that's just a flat rock or brick.
>>2703510Yea theyre a complete larp. If anybody post an opinel you automatically know they dont use their knives for anything besides (((processing cardboard)))
>>2703616Why do you regret it? Is the 940 not all its hyped up to be?
>>2704837>hurr durr larpDidn't read post, opinion discarded
nothing personal
>>2704837They're great foraging knives. Kind of a niche use, but really the best I've seen for it.
Sorry to mog, but none of you can beat my EDC
>>2705727I mean I have, I like it. It can't keep an edge for longer than this sentence takes to read but its handy.I have the small investigator one. Definitely the blade I pull out with complete disregard to its cutting edge. I've done dumb shit like opening cans, it'll take it, be just as dull as when it started.
I am once again asking for your financial supportI need a fixed blade knoife that fits in muh pants for self defence in cucked no guns land (which is also no knife land but the time you do is lower), I've seen the extrema ratio requiem, seems thin enough, has handguard although not that big, and dagger type blade, and price is decent, other ones I've seen dont have a real hand guard, or if they have one they're bigass Rambo knives or other ER kifes that cost a fuckton>>2701963>lubrication::)
>>2705727>>2705838is this type of knife good for self defense compared to a regular straight one?
>>2705850It's better for extreme close quarters or getting "away" from someone's hold but that's it. Straight blades are better for distance attack and penetration to kill.
>>2705850It'll cut a neck. Good for cutting upward/stabbing with off-hand, or cutting across with dominant hand all on the draw. Just creates distance to draw pistol.Really I just put it on my belt and use it for everything you use a pocket knife for. It's durable and comfortable. Also other anon is right it won't hold an edge if you use it for things like prying bearings open, cutting through cans, etc. But I just pull it through a v-sharpener a few times once or twice a month and it's good to go again.I'd recommend it for a useful, cheap knife if you don't like folders or like to conceal carry
>>2705849Just go to Walmart and pick up something similar to this: https://www.crkt.com/knife/spew-fixed-blade-knife-with-sheath?sku=2388Put it on a belt and no one will ever know you have it
>>2705849>cucked no guns land>>2705970>Just go to WalmartSorry anon that's not how it works
>>2705849Carry a sturdy walking stick
>>2702521Misquote
>See good knife>Joker so definitely good>Stainless SteelHow have you found Stainless for sharpening?The last time I had one was when I was 15 and I just remember it was awkward to sharpen.
>>2706260Unrelated but Carbon Steel knives are often more expensive despite it being much cheaper to use and make which is funny and shows how much knife companies like to scam people in the West
I was redirected here from /diy/: I want to learn how to sharpen. I rigged a sharpener with mdf wheels on a bench grinder and polishing compound, it got the job done, but it was a shit job and I know it can be better, so here I am asking for advice.>Is there a decent youtube channel I can refer to?>I assume the cheap generic chink branded whetstones on amazon have to be avoided>Is the Lansky kit good or can I get better results by sharpening manually on a stone?
>>2706481Get a clothThicken according to angle Put knife on clothMove knife Move
>>2701963carved myself a hobo fishing reel using a Condor Bushlore.It has a good handle for fine work such as whittling but is a little too broad for drilling. The blade is approximately 4" long which feels just right for most uses. At some point I will try to use it to gut a carp that I catch with the reel mentioned above, its pretty nice so far.
>>2706260It's 1.4116 steel, which is pretty soft for stainless. Some stainless take and hold an edge really well, but often the harder they are the harder they are to sharpen too. 1095 is a cheap soft carbon steel as well for instance, but it makes pretty good chefs knives because it's very easy to sharpen to razor sharp and the toughness isn't as big as a factor if you're chopping vegetables and soft meat.I've never used a knife labeled 1.4116 but I've got a couple x50crmov15 knives which are supposed to be the same? So it's a budget low/medium carbon steel stainless. They sharpen pretty easy, dull somewhat frequently, great corrosion resistance and they don't chip like something like a vg10/vgmax knife is prone to do.
>>2706481the power strop only does its magic if your secondary bevel is properly set>I assume the cheap generic chink branded whetstones on amazon have to be avoidedjust get a doublesided norton india, its all you ever need for a fucking knife. dont get roped into the gearfag spiral
Anyone used knives with a similar blade to this?I've only used stocky knives but this looks attractiveI'm mainly wondering from the grind if it's good
>>2706823I believe it's a hollow grind
>>2706825>>2706823Compared to this.Would a hollow grind be much weaker?
>rangergrip 78yay or nay? is the steel still soft?
>>2706826Hollow grinds are suited for animal processing but at everything else they can perform worse thought still do it
>>2706830Still soft, very corrosion resistant and it'll deform before chipping though so it has some advantages. Y'all are always looking for like the most tier 1 bs, but a knife with a lot of features like the rangergrip might still be worth it as long as you know its usage limitations.
>>2706830>softAll steel was "soft" until the 1860s and essentially until the 1970s for low budgetsSo thousands of years with "soft" steel and people cleared millions of acres of forest with them.It'll do fine.
>>2702672I like em.
>>2702194This is cute
>>2703767I got a 1000 grit stone and a ceramic rod. Seems to do the trick. Just need a leather to take it over the edge (pun intended)
>>2701963Can those even batonny chop chop?>>2706699>>2706481Daily reminder to get a fire steel and you can sharpen you’re knoife and start a fire at the same time!
>>2703134Is that an Opinel in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?
>>2708124That carbon cock got a vibrolock or you slinging locks that go clicky clock?
>>2701963Post Hobo knives.
Knife I carry in my daily bag with a small flashlight attached to it. Was gifted to me last Christmas.
>>2702583Don't care about those serations it's screwdrivers for life.>>2702840same but something inside of me can't help but consider whether waiter or bantam wouldn't have been a better idea, despite the fact I use the scissors regularly. Not that the extra layer is bothering me at all but it's literaly like half the price.>>2706830Hard enough that the chance of you braking it is still way lower than you losing it. At least within it's limits, but you can also afford to push those limits more than one made out of an expensive alloy, which I know for a fact many people are too afraid to make use of.
>>2710038Very nice! I've never had one of their Alex versions, definitely want one, can figure out if they make a sportsman in along, that would be top tier
im thinking the crkt redemption
>>2710906if that had a cross guard it would be kino
>>2702522i see youve played ol' knifey-penny before!
Anyone tried the peltonen knives?
Do you really need more?
may i propose the humble Hori Hori as an alternative to the Morakniv?
>>2701963Why did he buy so many of the same one knife, though? He even autistically made a case to house them all, 2 in fact.
>>2713374Yes. If I'm carrying a SAK around with me it needs to have the tiny scissors and the hole puncher.
This little thing makes itself very useful.
>>2713463The other one I've got.
>>2713460They are sequential years from the beginning of production to discontinue year.
>>2701963Does the kydex sheath that comes with the "el chete" have a leather snap?The strap that keeps the blade in place on the steel clip variation
It has black plastic looking fiber inside and the outer shell is all one piece with no stitchingIt's ridgid smells like a shoe
My buck 119 special got stolen from my truck (I think I forgot to lock the door). I really liked it and thought it was a great knife, Im probably just going to get another one.
Lost mine near Red Feather Lakes in Colorado. So if you're near there go look for it
>>2713624>muh truugg>muh over sized wannabe kabar cuck knife>too retarded to lock his truuggSurprised you didn't mention guns or voting for trump
>>2713452>shitty shovel>shitty knife
>>2713641seethe and cope
>>2713645Predictable response, get new material
>>2713624Get the 117.
some boomer in the US stabbed some zoomer kids, look it up or go to /pol/ if you're interested in that (apple river stabbing), one to death, and I'm trying to ID the knife he used
>>2715634posted on /k/ for you>>>/k/61325678
>>2715634>>2715636I'm guessing SOG.
>>2713800I'll look into it, I wouldn't mind the smaller size for most stuff. It looks like I might have to order it online though, all the "Buck" knives I've seen in stores the last few weeks look like cheap China garbage, and don't even come with a leather sheath... Idk what happened, but my first thoughts were that the brand is going downhill
Holy shit Euro bros.Leatherman finally changed the Euro-legal Bond so that it doesn't slice your hand clean off whilst trying to use the pliers.The constant lawsuits must have been getting too much for them.
how do i make a knife if im neet with no tools?whats the most basic simplest thing i can makereally anything with any kind of sharp edge and/or point. or it could be optional
>>2717873the humble jizzel is about the most basic thing you can makeno delicate shit, just a steel blank, a file, a blowtorch/coa fire and bucket of waterthe wood is optional here
>>2716356>Euro-legal BondAll leatherman tools are legal here, bongman. Still not buying amerimutt shit doe, multitools are larp shit but if I were to buy one would rather give my money to the Swiss. t. Continental Euro
>>2717898Damn. I don't own any of that
this is what i use. a shitty chinese knock off and it works fine. cost me 20 dollaridoos.
>>2718048>the least /out/ knife possibleThere should be an award for this
>>2718062Nta, but what exactly is an "/out/ knife"? The only person that goes out here is me. (Hunter anon)Also that toothpick would work just fine slicing sausages or tomatoes or whatever for a campfire stew, further devalidating your post.
>>2717977no bucket in romania?
>>2703506>reeee why do you people like owning more advanced technology than the bare minimum >reeee what even is the point of owning anything reeee
>>2718169>more advanced technology than the bare minimumAt some point, the law of diminishing returns will kick in and you are paying significant costs for percentile points in a graph. Consumerism, brand loyalty, and base pride foster blindness to the fact that all you need is modern 1095 or 420.
>>2718174> the fact that all you need is modern 1095 or 420.Need for what, redditnigger? >you won't le need more... because i can't afford more!!!
By the way, I have one of those faggot swedecuck moraknivs that I got for €8 or something. And guess what? It's complete fucking dog shit. Scandi grinds SUCK for anything but whittling sticks like some Rain Man tier retard. Meanwhile my hollow ground chink-made shitvivi in 14C28N is a far, far better knife to the point I don't ever even use the moracuck anymore, not even for opening boxes. It just lies unused in the corner of my gear room. And my Para 2 actually holds an edge for more than 1 deer. Amazing, what an honour to have such ALIEN SPACE TECH in 2024. But I guess I just "DON'T NEED MORE", guise.
Also who the fuck talks like this:>diminishing returns will kick in and you are paying significant costs for percentile points in a graphIs this redditnigger for real? Are you the same retarded s0icuck that I btfo'd in the bear thread a few minutes ago? You have to be an actual wheelchair-bound retard. Post your physiognomy RIGHT NOW
>>2718185It's a tone that wields power and commands respect. See how badly it affected you? You're still seething.
>>2718192>look mum im trolling le deadest board on 4chink right now!!!Good thing I haven't frequented this shithole in half a year and my next hiatus is going to be even longer than that. Didn't even come here for the sake of calling retards retarded, but you are absolutely ripe for euthanasia.
>>2718098That and cutting cordage is all I use it for. I cook with butane and butane accessories so no need to process wood.And I like how it goes 'thwick'.>thwick enthusiast.
recently was gifted this SOG flash tanto, and man it's cool. much more badass than any other knife I've ever had .anything I should know? I ran it over a whetstone with spit on it and it got sharper but seemed more difficult to sharpen than e.g. a swiss army knife
>>2718174They know this. Everyone knows this. The point isn't to own and use a tool. The point is to consoooom in the hopes of filling the emotional void in your life.
>>2718193>t. will return in two weeks, still seething
Hey kings, I posted on /k/ but wanted to ask here as well.>>61397095I'm looking for a fixed blade knife with a bright orange and black fake wood pattern handle without breaking the bank and cannot find chinkshit knockoffs of this.
>>2719350Can't delete my fucking post so guess I'll paste the same exact fucking text again and use a different photo.Dear kings, I'm looking for a cheap fixed blade knife with a handle pattern very similar to this ( bright orange and black ) with a plastic/kydex sheath. However sadly, I cannot find knockoffs for this. Do you guys have any suggestions ? I really want this kind of bright color fake wood pattern. Bonus points for EU shipping.
>>2719354How cheap? Check out Condors, but you'd have to redo the handle to be orange. Why the specific handle colour?picunrel.
>>2719799Autism, I like it and the company colors are black and orange and I'd like it to fit with the rest of my work shit.
>>2702036moraknivs are the crocs of the knife world
Anyone here owning a Kiridashi? Single bevel. It looks clean and would be neat as an EDC.
>>2715719THAT'S A NICE FUCKIN' BUCK RIGHT THERE.
>>2721296More meant for woodworking, no?
Buck bantam in blaze orange, so I don't lose it. I like it. The handle is poly so it's light but durable. It holds its edge well. I've skinned a pig with it. I've made feather sticks with it. I hone it, but haven't needed to sharpen it yet.
>>2715634Looks like cheap gas station chinesium to me.
>>2703510It sometimes happen, but you only need it to let it dry so the wood decompress
>>2721353>you only need it to let it dryHave you ever been on a rainy camping trip? Nothing gets dry.
>>2701963While neat, always found the tools in them to be too small to actually be functional.
>>2721510It's a compromise. I look at them as ideal for travel. They are like a micro toolbox. I wouldn't choose a SAK over a stocked tool bench, but I have spent some time on the road and they travel a lot better than a small tool kit.
>>2703504
>>2721555Darwinism in action
I found my leatherman to be pretty handy when I went out last. I used the pliers to move around my hot cook pot. I barely used my bushcraft knife however, in fact I sort of with I brought an ax instead since that chops wood but could also be a hammer for tent pegs since I found out the ground was pretty hard and my shitty aluminium pegs all bent on it.
>>2721553Never used the pliers on the 111mm model, is it any good or kind of a gimmick?Kinda thinking if I want pliers, I will just take my leatherman
>>2721555I fucking hate this video.Idk why.Just can't watch it again.
>>2721356Thats why an Opinel cost 10 bucks, you cant spect something better. The thing is that they are pretty good knifes for the price. Also, better suited for european continental/mountain weather (like the french or spanish pyrenees), not as wet as the US
>>2703510They make one called "the outdoor."It's for rainy camping trips.There are also coated wood ones.But pic related is what you wanted.
>>2710906looks like the axis lock patent has expired
>>2721943It already expired in 2016, redditor. Also the mechanism itself was never patented (how could they patent something as simple as a crossbar lock anyway?) only the name.You are not an expert on knife engineering because you watch jewtube videos.
>>2715719fresh
This is my favourite to take /out/ these days.
>>2722908please seek help from above.
