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Why would you want other people to see you before you see them? That would make me very uncomfortable, like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance. I don't own a single piece of clothing or gear that is any color except Earth brown, olive drab green, and stone grey. The whole point of going out in the woods is escaping humanity and becoming invisible and being left the fuck alone.
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I wear all multicam with a matching bag and I get weird looks from the colourful fags.
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>>2710223
>Earth brown, olive drab green, and stone grey
ugly

>becoming invisible
larper
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>>2710223
They don’t. The worst you could come up with is sky blue (normal) and red (normal). This is a meme from the 90’s that simply won’t die.
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>>2710227
Yes they do. I see it all the time. 90% of people I encounter on trails are wearing bright, conspicuous colors. I can see them moving from 120 yards through thick new growth.
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>>2710230
they don't care because they are not paranoid and/or autistic
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If they fall down they want someone to see them before they die. What retard would hike on the Appalachian Trail in military camo ?
You can literally get lost from the trail at night when you go take a piss if you do not pay attention to what you are doing.
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>>2710223
So it's easier to spot them from height when they get lost.
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>>2710230
No, they don’t. You’re making things up, and it’s fucking stupid.
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>>2710234
If you're lost then just hang a blaze orange bandana on your person. No reason to permanently lock yourself in to looking like a fag at all times. Also, you can't hunt birds in bright colors. Turkey and ducks are some of the most useful survival foods because of how easy it is to find these animals during the daytime, but they see colors very well. You also need to be able to hide from dangerous people who mean you harm. You might not even have cell service to call the police in the woods.
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>>2710238
How the fuck can you get lost when every phone has gps and there are hundreds of free offline map apps now? Real life is literally Skyrim. I go miles off trail on a regular basis and don't give a fuck.
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>>2710223
>So autistic he dislikes even being perceived
Yeah, total mystery. Can't even begin to figure it out.
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>>2710269
It is an extremely unnerving experience to suddenly notice someone on the trail who is already looking at you when you spot them. I don't like it.
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>>2710272
Maybe they should wear some more bright colors so you can see them sooner.
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>>2710231
I'm trans and tripple vaxxed btw not sure if that matters
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>>2710223
>>2710280
You definitely are, yeah.
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>>2710283
I don't think that was op
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>>2710285
It very obviously was, though.
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>>2710223
humiliation ritual
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i think it's funny to wear loud ridiculous clothes
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>>2710223
>That would make me very uncomfortable,
This is because your brain doesn't work very well.
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The onlg reason to go retard bright colors is if you are afraid of getting lost and would want to be seen. But the real reason all the people itt are salty about this is that they buy their gear on clearance and only the ass ugliest colors are ever left in the clearance section. Normal people would buy muted or normal colors like navy or burgandy or forest green or brown or grey or black. But those colors don't go on clearance. What goes on clearance is electric blue with neon yellow suppers.
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so they dont get hit by cars. Nothing more retarded than someone wearing full camo, dark colours at dusk by the road
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>>2710223
Enjoying getting shot by drunken rednecks I mean hunters.
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They think it'll help the helicopter find their jacket when it's in a log jam after being ripped from their body when they tried to cross a flooded stream.
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>>2710223
People have liked wearing bright colors since before recorded history. Even uncontacted tribes have been spotted wearing brightly dyed cloth and/or body paint. You're just a mentally ill antisocial retard.
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>>2710409
Or he just knows how to dress himself.
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>>2710223
This, but unironically. I always think about it when I notice someone on the trail from several hundred yards away because they’re wearing a red jacket or something. Wearing loud colors for a quiet /out/ing has the same feel as driving around driving around with untinted windows
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>>2710409
>check regular colors
>full price
>check dipshit orange with electric retard blue stripes
>45% off
Gee I wonder why you guys are buying these
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>>2710437
Only niggers and spics tint windows.
>>2710438
Gray is ugly, and does nothing to improve your own inherent malodorous hideousness.
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>>2710438
686 disputes your whole argument. Imagine getting btfo by a company that uses Floyds for models lmoa
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>>2710441
>>2710439
Poorfag cope
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>>2710409
I agree for clothing and colors in regular settings, but in the woods it really looks like shit to have a pop of some bubblegum colors.
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>>2710443
Not a response lmoa
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>>2710446
You wear vans.
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Technically speaking, blue is more easier to spot in the outdoors, even more than red.
Thoughts?
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>>2710449
That would depend on the saturation and value. A burgandy and navy would be pretty comparable. A burgundy #800020 would be more discreet than a neon blue #0cfff4. A navy #1c2e4a would be more discreet than neon red #ff073a
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I miss going out in the 1990s and 2000s before Instagrammers turned the outdoors into a fashion show and popularity contest. The outdoors were better when they stayed in the cities where they belong.
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>>2710454
You gotta look cool
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>>2710223
Natural colour on the outer layers neon colour on the insides.

I do actually go outdoors during off season bad weather and do night time hikes. Summits etc. I do solo bivvy trips etc. so so signal colours are needed in case of emergency because I can't expect to have reliable signal. and I don't want to get blasted by some drunk hunter.


BUT if care this much what others wear you are an autistic spaz.
X2hp
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>>2710223
Because that's what's available at the local REI.
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>>2710225
I get most of my cloths from the thrift store. I can get lightly used or in many cases totally unused high end clothing. The only thing I buy new are coats, hats, underwear, shoes and socks... the rest are thrift store treasures.
Also
Learn to fix zippers bitches.
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>>2710454
Congratulations, hikers have always liked bright colors. Also, you weren't even born then you zoomer faggot.
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>>2710230
>I can see them moving from 120 yards through thick new growth.
well that means those outfits worked as intended
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>>2710453
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you have severe autism and homosex.
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If you don't know when big game seasons are, that is your fault. And if you do allow me to introduce you to something to put on OVER your normal colored clothing. How are you guys this fucking stupid
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>>2710478
>hikers
numales you mean
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>>2710409
>socialist
>calling anyone else mentally ill
xD
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>>2710224
Sounds like the multicam isn’t working then. STILLNESS is 95% of successful camouflage so if you’re wearing camo patterns to hike in bc you want to be hidden, uh lol you won’t be because you’re walking on a trail and obviously identifiable as a human. Very pointless to wear camo when you aren’t actually stalking anything.
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>>2710478
That's a pic from the 1970s you god damn retard. The decade before smartphones and social media had more subtle colors and fewer people overall. You wouldn't know because you're a newfag who "discovered" the outdoors after iPhones came out. Kys.
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>>2710504
multicam is kinda cucked anyway, unless his camping trips involve sniping terrorists in the afghan mountains. i can see something like a properly matched realtree or even flecktarn tarp being not completely useless though. i personally default to olive drab as my color of choice and introduce other/bright colors that make sense
>bright yellow guyline so i don't trip on it
>dark blue underquilt so i don't mistake it for the hammock
>bright red fuel bottle because it's a bottle of fuel
>bright teal wallet so i don't lose my $$$ and car key

>>2710441
>>2710446
>lmoa
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>>2710223

>why isn't everyone as autistic as me?!?!?!?!
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>2710460
Just carry a blaze orange handkerchief
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>>2710480
I could set up an ambush and mug them as easily as I could fall out of bed
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>>2710550
Imagine pouncing on a trailtwink and just holding him down and dryhumping him. Humping and whispering in his ear how small and sexy he is. Not actually raping, just letting him know a man could and fear it for the rest of his life every time he goes on a trail hahahahaha
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>>2710563
I have fantasized about meeting a hung stud on the trail and letting him take it...would be hot.
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>>2710484
Apparently you're not a golfer
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>umpteenth fashion thread devolving into overt gay fantasies
You're all gay, just different flavors of gay.
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>>2710454
You mean you miss going outdoors when you still had knees
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>>2710550
>mug them as easily as I could fall out of bed
On a completely unrelated topic, what race are you?
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>>2710786
>different flavors
>not different shades
Missed opportunity
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>>2710250
Lol, I like how he never responded to you because when you said "you might need to hide from dangerous people who want to do you harm", he knew he was wasting his time with a low IQ larper.

Can you give me a realistic example of needing camo for camping/hiking because of people wanting to do me harm? I'm trying to come up with some scenarios that are realistic, but none of them involve an apocalypto chase. I either die or survive the ensuing fight, but I will draw my CCW and shoot. And if I have to do that, it's probably because they attacked me as I'm hiking.
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>>2711524
For me, it's the flipper zero with a broadband rf jammer to make your cellphones not work. Then it's a pneu dart gun set up for a mule deer sized animal. Then... we'll see if you guys like my burried shipping container
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>The whole point of going out in the woods is escaping humanity
nah, it's about enjoying the beauty of nature. just stay in your basement if you want to escape humanity.
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>>2711558
t. eastoid hivedweller
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>>2711524
How do you draw and shoot someone who has planned their approach for several minutes without you being aware of their existence? Why are you defending the practice of being conspicuous at all times for no reason? That is such an objectively stupid concept.
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>>2711558
Only urban people think that way
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>>2711562
>>2711569
Why would you need to "escape humanity" if you already live in the countryside?
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>>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them?
Most of them are planning for the moment the heli rescue team needs to spot their dead bodies easily.
People like me, for example, are comfortable with the fact that our earth tone clothes will mean not even wild animals will spot us until our remains start smelling.
We will become one with the Earth. Our clothes won't, because they're polyester, but we will.
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>>2711584
Lmao countryside. Nigga you a yuropoor
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>>2711608
>he doesn't wear wool, leather, linen, cotton, hemp
ngmi
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>>2711584
Because there are still people and I still have to have a job
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>>2710443
He's literally right.
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I bought an orange knock off sierra designs parka from Uniqlo because
*orange seemed to be the colour most associated with it.
*kind of a 1970s vibe that i liked.
*orange looks decent on me.
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>>2711615
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>>2711615
Why does northern Finland have some civilization while Murmansk in Russia is completely empty?
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>>2711584
Because the countryside is industrialised even in the most rural of places, atleast in the west.
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>>2711608
>until our remains start smelling.
You fucking stink right now to a wild animal, they see the world through their nostrils.
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>>2711615
This hurts.
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>>2710223
It's like the Rainbow flag, it shows others that they're faggots.
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>>2712639
>t. poor
Mom's basement doesn't count as /out/ my nigga.
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>>2712646
Found the faggot. I've not seen my mom in over eighteen years, I own my home and go out every weekend because the Olympic Peninsula butts up against my property, so good job on being so wrong, faggot.
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>>2712646
>buys clearance colors
>you're poor
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>>2710230
It's because hunters exist and they don't want to get shot.
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>>2710223
-a lot of them don't
-safety (hi vis)
-it became fashionable & common in design based on the hi vis
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>>2712897
>deer season is usually november-early january
Ah yes, the prime time for hiking. And with plenty of sweet december foliage for a hunter to think I'm a deer!
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>>2713008
Unfortunately, a lot of boomer hunters will shoot without properly IDing their target because they're eager to get the "deer" near the edge of the woods. That's why I always make a lot of noise until I'm far enough in that there aren't any people.
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>>2713056
There are so many things stupid about this. 1. Deer are crepuscular and hunters only really see them at 5am-7am and 5pm-7pm. 2. Deer tags usually go to specific public land units or private land and the parks people hike in don't have legal hunting. And the common public land units sound like a war zone in the east and south where this would be a problem. In the west hunters usually glass their deer far before getting the chance to shoot them. 3. At that time of year the deciduous trees have nearly all lost their leaves and you're visable anyway. 4. Pic related. There is no reason to buy an ugly jacket
, a unitasker, you couldn't wear around town normally without looking stupid.
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>>2713114
1. Boomers don't care
2. I live in the northeast and state forests are multi-use, also boomers don't care
3. See >>2713056
4. Boomers. Don't. Care.
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>>2713139
>northeast
Are boomers even allowed to use a rifle there? I lived in maryland before and it was muzzleloader/slugs only.
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>>2713139
There is another solution
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>>2713153
Fuck off, you never actually have to wear these for longer than an hour or two don't you?
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>>2713164
based esl
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>"I don't want to be shot by hunters/boomers/red necks!"
Skill issue, if you get shot then clearly you weren't camouflaged enough, you should be able to get close enough to record their voices & play them at different pitches to fuck with them.
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>>2713241
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtJzw-hgTTw
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>>2710527
I just have a multicam shirt because it was the cheapest abrasion resistance layer I could find that would also seal up well against the 8-legged blood balloons.
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>>2713311
Pantyhose
Yer welcum
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>>2713311
I have one of these.
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>>2710230
Wearing bright colours is a good idea for two reasons:
1) Hunters exist, it's a good idea to make it clear you're not a wild animal
2) if something goes wrong, it's a lot easier for mountain rescue to spot someone wearing red than it is to spot someone wearing camos
>I can see them coming
They don't care retard, you're not in vietnam
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>>2713815
Why don't we just take this to its logical conclusion.
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I need people to see me, y'all! Safety first! Y'alll, there's redneck trump voters out there and I could get lost!
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>>2710223
>Why would you want other people to see you before you see them. That would make me very uncomfortable.
Want to know what makes ME very uncomfortable? Getting shot.

>Like sitting at the very first table in the break room with your back to entrance
So you don't worry about getting shot out in the wild, where there could be some idiot out hunting, but you DO worry that someone might get you from behind at work? Are you doing ok?
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>>2713820
>Want to know what makes ME very uncomfortable? Getting shot.
What if they're trying to shoot you on purpose?
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>>2713821
What the fuck do people think is going to happen if they answer their phone? They going to get the call from "Cell" or something? People I work with are like this. One of the fucking goblinoids found a phone in the park the other day and they genuinly took it to the police station because they got it into their heads that it was a drug dealers phone and he'd be angry if they tried to return it.
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>>2713823
If I answer spam calls then the people making the calls know when I'm awake and double up on how much they do it. It's annoying as fuck.
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>>2710223
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth, but the righteous go boldly as a lion."
Basically, you're gay.
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>>2713845
This. And they add you to a list of schmucks who answer the phone
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It’s mostly an east coast thing in my experience. I’ve seen it out west but yeah the REI pastel faggots usually like attention and being looked at and somehow believe in their mind that they are going to have to worry about getting lost on crowded clearly marked trails with rangers on them every couple of miles. They aren’t trying to be super hard core survivalists just get some exercise and enjoy pretty nature. They’re mostly middle class nerds.

Personally I tend to hike those types of places in fall when it isn’t as hot, crowded, or just stick to the way less commonly known spots. Either way brown Carhartt work pants to fuck off thorns and stickers, moisture wicking base layer, wool flannel, and my duck hunting jacket all repurposed from my hunting shit are what I usually wear. To each their own I guess.
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>>2710223
Because if you take something off at camp and then later pack up to go, you're more likely to see your gear and not accidentally leave something behind. Especially when the conditions are adverse and you need to get a move on.
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>>2710223
normies only care about being noticed / seen doing things, every action taken is for the purpose of bolstering the artificially supported, advertising-indoctrinated social media ego which has replaced their free will and personality.

very few people do anything uncomfortable or outdoorsy for the actual self-fulfillment or benefit to health. people who unironically just walk through the woods to walk through the woods are doing so to be SEEN doing it, to be SEEN taking the instagram selfie at that scenic overlook.

You've effectively fallen for their simplistic peacocking and have had your time and energy STOLEN just by discussing this

Go outside
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>>2716664
You started off with a good point but then you got pretentious with it, so now I'm just going to tell you to go back faggot
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>>2715454
Do normies seriously have that problem? I have never been in the habit of throwing shit all over the place and leaving it there. I have never lost anything important or expensive in my life.
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>>2713856
Lions are nocturnal stealth predators. What a dumb scripture.
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>>2713823
Nobody uses voice call anymore except scam artists and debt collectors. If you aren't texting or emailing me then we do not have business.
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>>2713820
Most hunting accidents are people injuring themselves or their hunting partner with NDs, not random people in the woods being mistaken for wildlife.
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>>2710223
The claim that a lot of people wear bright colors while hiking just proves you don’t hike around other people. It’s literally a non-issue. Yes autists, there are a few exceptions. But most people aren’t doing this.
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>>2716739
Yes they are
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>>2716739
Never underestimate an eastoids ability to söy up everythind
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>>2710223
>Why do backpackers wear hideous colors
Uhm... because it is based?
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https://www.rei.com/c/hiking-shirts

Grays and blues seem to be the most common, followed by muted pastels but in earth tones. I should add “bright colors” to this meme.
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>>2716963
Trekking poles are the gayest shit I have ever seen in my life and objectively inferior to walking sticks.
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>>2716693
Double gay.
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>>2717002
Being gay is based and walking sticks and poles have different purposes.
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>>2717002
>everyone is wrong except me
God damn you faggots are just insufferable. Get over yourself, Anon.
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This is what I wear. Too much?
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>>2710223
You'll never see me in red, for what it's worth. I don't go full camo mode but bright colours are not my deal -- the idea that you see me way off before I see you is not a good feeling.
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>>2716963
>>2717002
>>2717029
>>2717073
Imagine using a fucking stick to walk when you should constantly be scrambling. They're even less than usless in rocky areas. Why do easterners need them for their little hills? Is it the mud? Is the mud slippery?
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>>2717164
Bipedalism is not functional in the mountains, especially heavily forested mountains with pervasive ground debris and obstacles. You would know that if you ever took one step off of a trail.
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>>2717185
It's a good thing God gave me arms.
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>>2717164
Poles (and natural sticks) are helpful for uneven terrain and stream crossings. This should be common knowledge to anyone who actually goes outdoors.

>constantly scrambling
Not applicable to most of the eastern US. Even in the exceptionally rugged Adirondacks and Whites you aren't CONSTANTLY scrambling on most routes.
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>>2717187
Okay, then crawl around on all fours and see how well that works out for you.
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>>2717201
>Even in the exceptionally rugged Adirondacks and Whites you aren't CONSTANTLY scrambling on most routes.

On trails? No. Off trail? Yes, obstacle clearance techniques basically become your default mode of locomotion and you will almost certainly succumb to a serious injury without a walking stick sooner or later. Attempting to take game via stalking while having your hands occupied with a rifle or shotgun is virtually impossible. In the southern Appalachians I actually attach a hook to my walking stick as a climbing aid and it's constantly in use whenever I'm bushwhacking. The Adirondacks were not quite so bad, still very dangerous country for people who don't understand basic climbing form though. Wear suspenders.
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>>2717264
>east coast
>rugged
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>>2717344
The Appalachians are physically harder to navigate than probably any wild region in North America, in part because of the dense forest cover and the absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor. When I watch videos of people doing anything /out/ related out west it looks like they are frolicking around in teletubby land.
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>>2710250
>No reason to permanently lock yourself in to looking like a fag at all times.
Fragile masculinity
>You also need to be able to hide from dangerous people who mean you harm.
Lmao
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>>2717347
>are physically harder to navigate than probably any wild region in North America, in part because of the dense forest cover and the absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor.
> When I watch videos of people doing anything /out/ related
maybe people who have no idea what they are doing and without any prior outdoor experience should not be walking those well kept trails just for the social media clout then

90% of people these days havent been taught how to use compass and map in middle school so how could they manage a straight basically paved road that has shops to cater to him calculated for every day walk
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>>2715454
>imagine being /out/ with more than 20 pounds of gear
>imagine not knowing exactly what you brought, and exactly where it is at all times
Skill issue.
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>>2717355
I'm in the east right now and I'm 20 miles from the nearest gas station. This isn't Europe.
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>>2717359
How weak are you?
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>>2710223
I just wear normal clothes with some boots in my pack is my wet weather gear. It really depends on the hike and length. The hideous colors and gear like that is just what the mainstream brands sell.
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>>2717376
Lol. Might as well be. Appalachians are eaaasy to navigate. There's legit landmarks every couple miles in any direction.
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>>2717359
>imagine needing to limit yourself to under 20 pounds of gear just so you can keep track of it
Skill issue, indeed
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>>2717424
You're talking about trails. I'm talking about the wilderness. You can't see more than 50 yards most of the time, landmarks are completely useless.
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>>2717406
>weight doesn’t matter
Let me guess: camping is supposed to be uncomfortable, right?
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>>2717490
20lbs is how much my dick weighs. Buy a plate carrier and train.
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>>2717436
Lmao wilderness on the east coast. Just look for the cracker barrel billboard and walk over to it.
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>>2710223
Antisocial freaks should sui instead of dragging down society with them
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>>2717498
>t has cancer in his dick
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>>2717499
>t. got lost in Fremont park once, hasn't left Sacramento since
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>>2717506
Neat. But this is the outdoors board, not the society board
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>>2717499
Northern New England, upstate NY, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky are full of places where even the most experienced outdoorsmen could easily get lost and die, and where you could squat and live off the land for the rest of your life and probably never be found.
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>>2717499
Eastern America is kind of like Japan, densely populated urban zones that abruptly transition into huge mountainous regions that are virtually uninhabited. The West has lower population density, but also way less forest, so it's not really comparable. Lots of shit is way too easy out west.
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>>2717187
You leap around on all fours like a little fox.
Furry.
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I love my bright jacket. If I hurt myself people can see me.
What are you hiding from, anyway? There's nothing out there.
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>>2717604
Unironically, why do you look like that?
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>>2717604
Mirin those thick and juicy elephant calves, bro.
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>>2710227
Counter example this absolute faggotron I saw at the top of kili I can only assume he was paid to wear this shit
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>>2710223
what's with all those tactical gears and clothes?

why can't you wear normal clothing?

straight jeans, a normal shirt and if it rains, a plastic bag.
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>>2710223
Have you got your tactical stealth whistle in matt black too?
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>>2717604
Hassans walls?
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>>2717604
cost 2 euro not 700 and protects you better then yours
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>>2717617
More like Hassan Piker
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>>2717604
>What are you hiding from, anyway? There's nothing out there.
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>>2717618
The crinkle is annoying and you look stupid
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>>2717612
>I saw this guy this one time
Check your autism and give a serious effort to understand what averages and exceptions are.
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>>2717604
There are people. I don't want people to see me before I see them. Most people are harmless but some are not and I want to scrutinize every single person I encounter without their knowledge and decide calmly whether I want to just continue on normally or go around them. If there's a bunch of guys on 4 wheelers with guns saying the N word in conversation then I'm not going to let them see me and I'm going to a quick press check.
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>>2717597
>less forest
To be fair, this is because the west coast actually has mountains. There are rain forests in the west as well.
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>>2717665
>anecdote
>counteranecdote
just going with the flow of the thread anon
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>>2717669
You are a massive faggot
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>>2717669
>4 bros hanging out plinking talking freely in nature
>"They said nigger! I better get ready to kill if needed!"
Are you actually black or just really sensitive?
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>>2717696
I'm actually black and I've been a victim of unprovoked violence multiple times.
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>>2717692
Neither of which proved OP’s point, because OP is just parroting memes.
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>>2717723
Why are you leaving your designated containment zones? Who is funding you to move places like arizona and colorado? Why are you suddenly appearing?
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>>2712339
Because Finland is a first world functioning state. Russia is a mongol scrapyard.
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>>2717740
I grew up in the country and I will stay there. If anyone ever confronted me in a secluded area and I detected any kind of racial hostility however slight I will draw and fire upon that person instantly without any intermediate escalation or even a single word.
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>>2717752
>I grew up in the country and I will stay there.
Based.
>If anyone ever confronted me in a secluded area and I detected any kind of racial hostility however slight I will draw and fire upon that person instantly without any intermediate escalation or even a single word.
But here you turn into the usual suspect again. Should've stopped at step 1.
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>>2717764
I don't care. Black people largely deserve to be mistrusted and even hated, but when that is turned against me, I'm going to be the one who walks away. It's just survival.
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>>2717767
>more Django: Unchained fantasies
Yeah man sorry can't help you with that.
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>>2717770
Then what do you suggest I do? Give the other guy any fucking chance whatsoever to win when the stakes are life and death? Being called a larper is a very small price to pay to stay alive.
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>>2717773
>in this scenario ive made up in my head a guy confronts me and calls me blackie and i shoot him because otherwise he would have surely shot me
>i spin my gun, tip my hat and say "nothing personnel kidd"
>i get on my horse (also black) and ride into the sunset
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>>2717774
I'm sure all violence seems like a fantasy to you. Unfortunately for me it has been a recurring feature of reality. Sometimes that was my fault and I had options to avoid it. Other times that was not the case. Either way, I plan to win.
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>>2717776
>Sometimes that was my fault
>Either way, I plan to win
Usual suspect.
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>>2717777
If you ever see a black man on the trail, just make sure to be polite. That's the best policy with everyone anyway.
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>>2717777
quads checked
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>>2717778
You're not doing yourself any favors.
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>>2717723
Statistics say that was done to you by other blacks
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>>2717793
I've met maybe 3 other black people in my entire life
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>>2717796
Then you're clearly a statistical outlier and your personal experiences mean absolutely nothing to anybody else and you're a fool if you think they're any kind of predictor of behavior.
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>>2717796
So it's happened 3 times then?
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>>2717793
that's not how statistics work, friendo
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part of me tells me i should logically own something bright if i ever get into trouble and need someone to find me
most of me knows if i ever die innawoods i will never be found because i was just too cool to walk along trails
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>>2717802
No, everyone I've ever had a violent altercation with was white. Some of them were strangers who I did nothing to.
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>>2717669
Brugly you need meds. Badly. It's not okay to be this schizophrenic.
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>>2717889
I'd rather be schizophrenic than have a false sense of security
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>>2717723
>unprovoked attacks
Pot to kettle
And saying nigger doesn't cound as provocation to attack someone.
Anyways stay strapped with your glawk fawty for killer racists coming out of the trees.
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>>2717347
>The most predictable low rolling hills in the most populated region of America are the hardest to navigate
lol. lmao even.
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>>2717605
With the jacket zipped all the way up?
I just did it for the photo because I thought it would be kinda funny. It was drizzling though and I did have the hood up, just not zipped up like that.

>>2717605
Thank you homie

>>2717617
Hidden Gorge at Mount Remarkable

>>2717618
Not true. That guy's arms would get wet and his hood would fly off in the breeze. Plus that poncho would be sticky and not let out the sweat. Ponchos also don't work that well with a pack, and thin ones rip very easily since there is lots of extra material. If you have to buy a new one every time it's not very good.

>>2717653
I wouldn't worry about it

>>2717669
Hmm. Interesting point. If you are solo hiking in the middle of nowhere or a place where hardly anyone goes then perhaps I understand. People like myself who wear bright colours are usually on well known trails or safer areas in general when they do it. Many shell jackets are made for alpine conditions, so you can understand why people want to be easily seen in that scenario. You wouldn't want to blend in with the snow if an accident happened.
If you were real back-country and alone I can see that you'd be more nervous about your personal safety.
I also have a camo jacket if I want to do some more stealth camping type stuff.

I just think trying to look like you're hiding while on a public trail is a bit silly.

Pic is me on Mont Blanc with my camo shell jacket. Didn't climb the mountain, just took the cable car as we only had a day in Chamonix.
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>>2717669
>>2717723
>>2717776
Go be disingenuous somewhere else, lad.
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>>2718004
Lad... no. Just no.
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>>2717776
This isn't true but I wish it were.
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>>2717347
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>2717723
Perhaps you should stop hanging out with your family
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Only faggots and women care what other people wear.
>nooo you're enjoying the outdoors wrong, I don't like the color of your jacket.
How fucked in the head do you have to be to actually think this?
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>>2713349
Mystery meat asian?
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This only proves that the stupidest threads are the most engaged with threads.
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>>2718084
Would you like another ten boot threads instead? Or maybe a savotta pack thread?
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>>2718004
Anon, while a disposable poncho isn’t a very good choice, you’re wrong about them being “sticky” and not “letting out the sweat.” Ponchos work very well at being ventilated. Thats one of the reasons people use them despite their failures. And ponchos slip over backpacks.
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>>2718091
those are definitely the only other options, right?
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>>2710487
I’m not a kindergartener.
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>>2718172
Unironically yes
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>>2718024
Grow up

>>2718101
I guess they do have the ultimate vented armpit hey? That makes them flap around a fair bit in the wind, though. Probably less good for driving rain or more severe conditions in general. You also have to get a certain type to slip over a big backpack otherwise it messes up the whole system and your entire back is exposed.
Here is my buddy from a hike. The poncho sorta worked well for him, but he ended up tucking it under the pack because the wind was just blowing it around with it draped over his pack.
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>>2712664
>lives in western Washington
>calls people faggots
Pot, Kettle, etc.
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>>2718247
Lad... don't be a disappointment to yourself. You're already a disappointment to me.
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>>2717612
Nah this dude is megabased and literally living in your head rent free.
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>>2718370
I honestly don't know what you're talking about, "lad".
I don't care at all if I've disappointed you. What have you ever done? Why do you think I should care? You are nobody.

I am very proud of the person I am. I have a wonderful wife, hobbies, and friends.
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>>2710454
And those people you are describing don't wear bright colors. Social brained normies actually wear less bright colors than ever before because they are afraid of standing out. The only people that still wear bright colors are upper-middle class white people with strong values, humility and a self image that won't get shattered by someone not liking their color choice.
>>2710455
You guys ironically care more about your appearance more than the people you project onto that don't care.
>>2710522
The 1970s IS before smartphones anon...
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>>2710475
based. the thrift store is pretty good for brand name synthetics, especially base layers. i did find my olive drab LL bean down parka on FB marketplace for $20 though

>>2717347
we don't use switchbacks, which is based. i've climbed some easy normie-tier mountains like mt success, that sometimes had long lengths of smooth wet granite. some of the harder mountains require you to basically climb up a series of boulders. also the large amount of fallen trees the second you go off trail to find a campsite. for me, it's the long trail

>>2717596
i was in the green mountains for the 1st stage of my eclipse journey and there were plenty of remote unpaved roads with very steep ascents and lots of sharp curves. it's the perfect place for some tesla faggot to kill his battery and roll backwards off the road just trying to get to the trailhead, which can be miles down another dirt road that abruptly ends

>>2717752
how stereotypical

>>2717937
lmoa even *
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>>2718173
Then why are you dressing like one
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>>2713008
Well first of all people poach year round, and you just really don't want to scare other people in the woods and have them think you are a bear. You want them to know its a human asap.

Second reason hi vis makes sense is for rescue, pretty self explanatory but if your friend breaks their leg and you are both dressed in all black, by the time a rescue heli comes in at 6pm you would be tougher to spot.

Additionally if you are in real dangerous backcountry, for example foothills of the rockies in alberta where you will see bears every other week and share spaces with them. Some of these bears have been conditioned to be afraid of Hivis colors because of oil and gas and logging guys honking at them and giving them a hard time when they see them. This is part of the reason that yearling bears are so dangerous because they have not yet been trained.

Pic rel is a black bear that I had the pleasure of sharing a block with doing some forestry work, I basically followed him into the treeline but before I did I put a splash of diesel on my shoulder and test fired my spray onto my boot. It's all part of the deterrant package.
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>>2717347
>absolute mess of dead blow down trees that make up the forest floor.
>trees out west dont blow down
lol
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>>2717347
I tend to agree but it does depend, and has more to do with the underlying geology than the tree typing. For example there are much more difficult to navigate types of forest like those in which it used to be swampy and all of the black spruce have since died creating walls and hurdles everywhere of extremely sharp impassable small trees. But because this happens in flat areas where water can accumulate the terrain isn't so rough and in the winter can even be said to be nice.

Contrast that with appalache you see rolling shield hills everywhere, loose rocks from glacial sedimentation, etc.

It really varies though because if you are walking through a mature forest offpiste the spruce trees with limbs all the way to the ground like you see in Kinbaskett, revelstoke, etc are very much impassable.
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>>2718531
and just generally sharper, maples are really welcome compared to a hemlock or a pine, quite prickly.
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>>2717597
>the West has lower population density, but also way less forest,
Citation needed. For example Montana has 26 million acres of forest, West Virgina only 12, Washinton State has 26 million acres, Maine only 17 million acres, Oregon has 29 million acres of forest, NY only 18 million, CA has 31 million acres of forest, VT and NH combined only 9 million, Idaho has 22 million acres while N. Carolina only 18 million....

So, I am curious as to why you believe what you wrote....
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>>2718534
>Washinton State has 26 million acres
Sorry, that should be 22 million acres but still...
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>>2718513
I don’t wear high vis vests.
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>>2718536
So you've never worked a single blue collar job.
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>>2718538
This just in: plumbers wear high-vis.
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>>2717597
>huge mountainous regions that are virtually uninhabited
...and the Rockies are what?
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>>2718547
Absolutely they do, yes.
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>>2718538
The conversation was about the clothing people choose to wear while engaging in outdoor recreation, not clothing they're forced to wear during work. But no, I haven't worked a blue collar job. Unless, of course, summer jobs count.
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So after reading these high level arguments on the thread, I must ask
Should I go with a dark navy or black lightweight raincoat? I was considering dark navy since black doesn't seem like an /out/ color but I'm interested to hear what you guys have to say about it
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>>2710487
People actually wear those?
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>>2712317
reminder that this is a picture of a single row of gas stations and rest stops at an interstate crossing surrounded by farms, game lands and state forests. It has a population of less than 200 people and the county its in has an average population density of less than 1/10th the average population density of the UK or Germany
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>>2710223
to blend in so mountain bikers run us off the trail. they cant see these colors.
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>>2718676
Olive
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>>2718676
If you are on the local walking trail: dark navy

If you are a professional or doing any type of dangerous alpine pursuit: bright colour
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>>2717597
>The West has lower population density, but also way less forest,
You cant be this retarded.
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>>2717597
Please refer to the image.
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>>2717260
It works great on an actual mountain where you are scrambling rocks and not an eastern mud hill where you need fucking crutches to walk up a 5% grade.
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>>2718913
Exibit b
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>>2718758
What if I'm doing a common but potentially dangerous from weather and terrain back country mountain ascent like King's Peak in Utah?
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>muh West
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>>2718923
>Alpine and scree terrain confuses the easterner because his mountains don't go that high.
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>>2718923
>muh West
lol
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>>2718923
Colorado isn't the West, faggy.
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>>2718963
Everything west of the mississippi is the west. The midwest are the plains states. The great lake states are the middle east, not the midwest.
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>>2718523
All extremely valid points
Only reason I avoid clothes with hideous colors is usually because they're expensive and made of synthetics that immediately get holes with campfires. Wool is also a big standard in Scandi countries, so I use a lot of it. It all depends on what type of camping people do, there's no right or wrong
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>>2719816
The plastic söy patrol will come for you
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>>2719719
The midwest begins in Michigan. Everything east of Detroit is part of the northeast including Cleveland.
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>>2719842
Nigga we don't care. I love wearing wool in my day to day. It's just too heavy for the benefits if I'm gonna be running 15-20 mile days.
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>>2710223
Because contrasting colors make for better pictures on social media.
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>>2710341
Real.
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>>2718928
There are higher mountains that are completely forested. Elevation is why this is a barren wasteland, but you can go ahead and pretend like you already knew that.
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>>2721005
>The easterner copes about bigger mountains than his by pointing out that there are even bigger mountains that also aren't his.
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>>2718376
Lad. No.



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