I have a dream to see the Wollemi pines in the wild. But the actual location of the valley containing the trees within the national park is a closely guarded secret. Wollemi NP is massive and almost entirely wilderness; I'm pretty sure I could search for years without ever finding them.Does anyone have any leads or know anything about this?
Wollemi pine has been on display in botanical gardens for over a decade and is available for purchase through some, limited retailers in the USA. It is a fussy and difficult plant to grow in the garden, requiring a protected space, well-draining, somewhat acidic soil, and winter conditions found in USDA zones 9 to 11
>>2720237The wollemi pines location has been doxxed on /out/ before and the jannies were too lazy and ineffective to remove it.
You could probably find it in a day on Google Earth.
Oh fuck it's Australia. Just get a few boxes of beer and ask an Abo to take you.
>>2720255That's kind of sad honestly. But I have a pretty good idea now after looking at maps all day. Will make an expedition on the weekend probably.
>>2720237i saw them on a hike back before covid. i was going to the glowworm cave, hiked in and out (wont say the direction i went in/out) and while walking along a river i saw them. i knew they were there somewhere but i didnt realise they were actually there, if you know what i mean. probably someone else wouldnt have noticed it but im a plant enjoyerobviously i walked among them, marked it on my map and left absolutely no trace. didnt touch them either just in casenot sharing the location though
>>2720237just get your own :3
are these the pines? everywhere i'm looking on Google Maps i see this lime green vegetation at the bottom of deep creek valleys, surrounded by dark gray vegetation that seem to be Eucalyptus. they are literally everywhere in valley bottoms, at least in NW Wollemi NP
>>2722058there are only ~200 wollemi pines and they only exist in one stand in one valley. wollemi national park is massive and most of it is canyons where you can't really go a long distance without being an expert climber spending days going up and down canyon walls 2-3 times a day.there are subtropical forests in all the canyons, but only one canyon somewhere hides the precious wollemi pine family
>>2722061what's this obviously completely different patch of trees then. expecially considering that there's a known grove along the very same creekbtw the place is like 2 kilometers from a dirt track
i keep finding this stuff
>>2722084this is 100% not the wollemi stand>>2722085this might be, idunno!
>>2722087is that national park explored enough that we are sure only one grove exists?
>>2722088I think so, at this point, although we've learned over and over again that even outback NSW is full of surprises
someone post the decimal coordinates, PLEASE
>>2721909Based non toucher. We have Kauri Dieback in NZ because people insist on standing all over their roots and molesting them.
>>2722058That's water bro
>>2722085Better go and look m8. I bet they've gone over it all in a chopper but you never know.
>>2722172>Kauri DiebackGood, king kaom is a bad man.
>>2722088yeah, there were bushfires going through there a few years ago, apparently the figherfighters had to specifically go to the grove (apparently there are 3 but idk) to protect them>>2722137kill yourself, if youre too lazy to check irl you shouldnt even be asking>>2722172>Based non toucheri didnt even really want to, but i did consider taking a cutting. maybe i would have if i had the toolsthey say that there are more people that have been on the iss than have been in the groves, maybe its true. probably there are less people that have taken cuttings of them that have been on the moon
>>2722286they send the air tankers out to proteck them. they also rigged up an irrigation and sprinkler sustem from the creek that would keep the humidity high in the valley/s so they wouldn't get singed. the fires swept through and only two wollemi were burned. this pic >>2722087 is the aftermath where everything but the wollemi pines was destroyed
>>2722287yeah i know, im saying that if there was any elsewhere they would have been burned, so asking if theres any that arent known isnt really a good question. if they wernt known there would be no one to know to protect that areaalso interestingly, when i saw them the valley didnt look like that so probably there are at least two groves
cmon someone just post the coordinates I won't leave trash or anything
>>2722294anon youve been told multiple times that they are on a river/creek. its also been said in this thread that no one is going to post the coordinates and you probably shouldnt trust any that are posted here because its pretty obvious that they arent going to be real (quick anon! 39.1577, -83.0910, thats the creek). trash isnt the only issue, are you going to step on roots? are you going to carry a disease? are you going to give the location to someone who will leave trash? if you want to know where they are just go out and find them, walk along the rivers over a dozen or so trips and youll find them and youd also prove yourself worthy or somethinganyway, kill yourself again
>>2722299I won't give the location to anyone else. I won't spread disease or leave trash.PLEASE give me the decimals.
>>2722303>I won't spread diseasekek, post hazmat suit
What are some other "secret" spots like this around the world?
>>2722317can't tell anon
>>2722317the nightcap oak is the only other one in australia i know of. theres also the hyperion, the tallest tree in the world (but the location has been leaked a hundred times, you can google for it)
>>2720237thats just weed bro kek
>>2720237Don't go there, idiots like you have apparently contaminated the site with invasive parasites already.
>>2722325>invasive parasitesThe fuck? Also if this tree is really old wouldn't that mean it's susceptible to all kinds of shit and bound to die? Like native Americans getting btfo.
>>2722326Could be, but they do thrive in public gardens and as potted plants around the home, so I'm not sure if they're particularly delicate. Although everything has its kryptonite if you find it
>>2722327It's going the way of the ornamental plant at best.
>>2722328what do you mean?also they're pretty ugly. i should really prune mine a bit this winter, it looks like a fucking psycho. then i can propagate from the cuttings and gift them to my frens
>>2722326The keyword there is "invasive." The trees are not adapted to deal with them like they are native diseases. They don't have to be old.
>>2722330I mean stuck in captivity.>>2722331Knowing Australia, its fate is to be invaded. I consider new residents late arrivals at this point.
>>2722332>Knowing Australia, its fate is to be invaded. I consider new residents late arrivals at this point.ironic considering the history of australia and the history of introduced pests
>>2722333
>>2722333It's a running theme over there.
>>2722318I used to have a secret hideaway. Then the weather got nice and arab's with bluetooth speakers "discovered" it. (I say "discovered" because it's a tiny patch of woods DIRECTLY behind my uni, yet during the winter, and most of spring, it's completely empty, save for the occasional wandering grandpa)
>>2722342what uni? i live near a uni that's rather green and bushy
>>2720689Just disinfect your boots with some kind of fungicide to make sure you’re not gonna accidentally kill them all with cinnamon fungus
>>2722428no actually try develop their natural imunity. bring syringes full of glyphosate to inject
>>2722058looks weirdly similar
I'm starting to buy the idea that there are more groves out there.
Any plant-bros know what this could be if it isn't Wollemi?
Along Ovens creek in Wollemi is where they all reside
>>2722493shut uppa your mouth
>>2722489>>2722490From talking to people in the NPWS there are several strands, but I don't think they're that distinct that you could spot them on a map like that.Maybe with very high res aerial photos.
>>2722704there are between 200 and 60 in the wild (its hard to count them apparently). a photo showing more than 200 trees isnt going to be it
>>2722493Jannies letting this one go.
Imagine being responsible for the literal extinction of a species
so any aussie going to these >>2722058 >>2722085 >>2722489 >>2722490 places to check if they're actually the pines?
>>2722342>save for the occasional wandering grandpaNice. There are a few types of people that I don't mind bumping into outdoors and grandpas are one of them
>>2724544They have been transplanted and transferred all over the world. At this point you wouldn't be able to wipe them out.
jesus christ just post the damn coordinates already
Just look up the habitat requirements of the Wollemi pine, go out to the park, ground truth a few dozen plots that match those requirements, then obtain high res aerial imagery and write an algorithm that predicts where those habitat conditions exist. Then go out and visit all your predicted polygons until you find the pines.Should only take you 4-5 years if you apply yourself.
>>2724618>take you 4-5 yearskek, based retardno one tell him
>>2724622I could do that study in about 3 years by myself, if I lived in Australia. I gave him an extra one to two years to teach himself the principles of ecological land classification.
>>2724625>could do that study in about 3 years by myselfdoubling down on the retardation
this is a leave no digital trace thing. i dont post my good unknown spots anywhere.
>>2724680me neither >>2722318
>>2724618Why do you need to write an algorithm just fucking think for yourself.
>>2722174as living in Italy unfortunately i can't go there myself>>2722490if you look at the Coricudgy Forest on satellite imagery, the trees look very spiky. they still have a different color, dark green instead of the wollemi's supposed light green that is present in those other microgrovestldr; the bigger, darker patches of "spiky" trees are cypresses. the smaller, lime green groves might be our pines
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