Tell me /out/, Poles, are these things needed for alpine hiking or not?
>>2751311>Poles, are these things needed for alpine hiking or not?no.now somebody recommend me some rock solid poles for pitching a tarp above the treeline, weight is not a concern, i need bombproof poles because failure of one or both poles means i need to pack my shit up and go back down below the treeline.needs too be adjustable down to 50-60 cm for a low pitch
Not needed, highly recommended.
>>2751311Hiking pro tip:The forest is full of sticks. You can pick them up off the ground for free.
>>2751320The what?
>>2751331It must be so depressing to start and end every hole above treeline. Have you ever seen a tree in your life? You fucking moron. Keep shilling your 100 dollar fake sticks and I'll keep reminding everyone sticks are free if you actually go outside.
>>2751332They don't have steaps and can't be easily adjusted. You gotta have the straps man.
>>2751311"needed" noMake your life significantly easier while also significantly reducing injury potentialAbsolutely.>>2751312MSR Explore with the dynalock are probably the best bang for the buck if you haven't succumb to the cork handle meme.>>2751320Yes, you live where there is no elevation gain and are poor. You post this retardation at every opportunity.>>2751332I live next to one of the oldest forests on earth: you're retarded. 90 year old's use walking sticks because, like you, they walk only on flat terrain.
>>2751380Cork handles are goated, all that foam and rubber shit is trash
>>2751311no, Poland is very Catholic, very anti-gay desu
>>2751320>You can pick them up off the ground for free.I have 458 sticks.Seriously though, nobody NEEDS walking poles, but damn they're good for river crossing. And rivers are often encountered above the treeline, so no sticks.
>>2751311>tfw no trail milf gf to plant my pole in
>>2751312A tent.
>>2751316This. It feels so much better when you use your whole body. Also you can go faster and farther with poles.I'm using pic related trail running poles.
>>2751311excuse me
>>2751320This shit is dumber than the OP’s question, mostly because it proves inexperience. Finding a branch that would make a decent walking stick is pretty rare.
>>2751380>cork handle memeFoam is soft and pliable but will fall apart pretty quickly. Rubber is very abrasive and only used because it’s cheap.
Can we have a gear quarantine thread?
>>2751595>t. spoiled by amazon and no longer able to pick up a stick unless it has two-day shipping and a name like "joymoo"
>>2751311Yes
>>2751311Not needed, but they act as handrails on a stair case: giving you something to “pull” on uphills, and help distribute the weight of your pack from your knees on downhills. I have a set of costco poles i sometimes use, and my gf has a set of leki poles that she always uses. My $30 costco poles work and do everything her $200 leki poles do except give me clout with the ultralight instagram gearfags.
>>2751311they are nice to have. I use 1 on downhills most of the time. I can move faster with it. helps keep balance.
>>2751633>except give me clout with the ultralight instagram gearfags.Totally wrong and irrevocably blown the fuck out. They are an ultralight staple and very well known. People will absolutely recognize them and gain you clout akin to using a Tarptent shelter or Zpacks backpack. Feel bad, fag. https://andrewskurka.com/costco-trekking-poles/
>>2751723>skurkaOpinion discarded
>>2751731t. Retard
>>2751311I used poles for the first time on a ~2.5k ft elevation hike and it was pretty much night and day in terms of how much easier it felt on my legs and such.
>>2751723>he cares what ultralight trannies thinkngmi
>>2751723Literally who?
>>2751595the guy who has many sticks and is confident in his stick finding ability is wrong because i've never found a good stick so he must be a newfagi assure you brother i am not. and i find many sticks. lots of my hikes i give away good sticks and then pick up another good stick. but atleast you arent over pretending like the guy who claimed there are actual rivers above treeline. sure theres torrential glacial meltofff and canyons and shit, but that isn't a river. that's a real dissolution of language for dramatic effect.
>>2751792No one is saying Skurka approves of trekki g poles so trekki g poles are good. I’m just pointing out that the very specific brand of trekking poles Anon thought aren’t popular among uktralight backpackers are acktyually very popular. So much so that Andrew Skurka did a write up on them. Like I said, you’re a fucking retard>who?A guy who took hiking and morphed it into what could only be described as adventuring. It doesn’t degrade Skurka by not knowing who he is. It brings into question your knowledge and experience. It’s like being interested in basketball and not knowing who Charles Barkley or Michael Jordan is. Your brand new if you’ve never even heard of him.https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/article/great-alaskayukon-loop-expedition-andrew-skurka-takes-on-4720-miles-by-ski-foot-packraftSpoiler: he used poles and trail runners.
>>2751802No, you don’t. Yes, you are a newfag.
>>2751813>no good sticks can ever be found thats why the idea of free sticks is so damning to us.
>>2751812>It’s like being interested in basketball and not knowing who Charles Barkley or Michael Jordan is.Better comparison would be like being interested in reading comic books and not knowing who Todd McFarlane is. Celebrities in these enthusiast circles don't fucking matter if all you care about is personal engagement with thr hobby. Hiking doesn't require a knowledge of prominent hikers, it just requires you to go outside and start walking
>>2751828>celebrities don’t matterCorrect. No one claimed they did or even gave credence to anyone opinions. I just pointed to Skurka’s opinion as proof of the milieu; that isn’t the same as Dayi g his opinion is correct. Again, you’re a retard.>it just requires you to go outside and start walkingExcept you’re not outside walking, you’re on the internet talking about it. It’s something normal people do with things they’re interested in. Given even just a short amount of time doing so, you’d come across Andrew Skurka’s name and some of his accomplishments.
>>2751812>n-no it's totally not hero worship, I definitely don't make AI porn of skurkadurk to jack off to>also if you don't know who he is and worship him you're a dumb new doodoohead
>>2751311>are these things needed for alpine hikingAbsolutely not. Short poles like that are only good for flat ground, and only useful on slippery, soft ground. In the mountains, you need a much longer, smooth pole (think quarterstaff with a point at the end) where you can vary your grip depending on whether you're ascending or descending. Though saying "you need" is a bit too much, as you only really "need" a pole when you're going off trail in rough terrain - and if you were doing that, you'd already know how often you end up slipping or stumbling when you don't have a third point of contact.>inb4 muhjointsPoles don't protect your knees from impact. They physically can't, as they're at a 90° angle to your arms, which are also at ~90° to your body, and 90° angles cannot transfer force unless supported. In practice, that'd mean placing your pole first, then tensing your arms while you lower your feet. Try doing hat, and you'll quickly find that it feels completely unnatural, is unstable and makes you extremely slow.
>>2751812>he seeks out the opinions of celebrities to validate his choices>he equates experience with adopting celebrity opinions>he’s hostile to the idea of anon enjoying his costco poles without input or knowledge of his celebrity or celebrity’s opinion ngmi
>>2751904You just keep proving that you’re stupid.
>>2751523>>2751596I've had EVA foam grips for almost a half decade and they're still going strong. Feel bad about talking out your ass.
>>2751883>Poles don't protect your knees from impactLaughably wrong.>Poles are only goodLaughably wrong.Do you ever get tired of making shit up on the fly or is that what brings you joy in life--lying on the internet about things you know nothing about.
>>2752056>less than five years of sitting in my slider and they’re fineOk
These are the handles of my poles. I tried a foam pair and they fell apart within a year. I used rubber for years and they were ok. They were never uncomfortable or bothered me or anything, but I just didn’t know any better. Cork is by far the most comfortable. This pic was probably after 500 miles. They’re closer to 1,000 now but surprisingly not much dirtier.
>>2751883>Poles don't protect your knees from impact. >try doing thatYou mean try using trekking poles? How about you try it you larping faggot
>>2751868I think I've seen the name written somewhere but I thought it was the dude who free soloed El capitan. T. Been hiking all my life
>>2751868bro you have a valid point but you're also over simplify things.and why the defensive attitude.I never heard of that dude and I've been hiking for ages. probably because I don't care.I think walking sticks are pretty dope though.
>>2751311no. what kind of queer uses poles to walk?
>>2752136>>2752899>hiking all my life>hiking for agesThe subject was reading about hiking, not doing it. Why is your reading comprehension so poor? Is English your second language?
>>2752920it is friend, why are u so angry on the internet
I only bring them for backpacks, hikes with a lot of river crossings, or summits. Otherwise, they can be left. You look like a tool if you bring poles for a run-of-the-mill day hike, but it’s good equipment to have if the scenario calls for it. Please say hello to my wife who exclusively hikes with poles no matter the conditions
>>2751311they are gay, if you are over 50 you might get away with sending out granny vibes but they are mostly gay
>>2751312bivy
they were useful snowshoeing downhill to not slide and fall and get deep in snow and then have difficulty getting up
Holy fag you can't even walk wtf is wrong with u
>>2751311Who's the milf?
>>2755554>rains
>>2752911ones that don't live in flatland like you do
Only gay if you use two like some sort of skiing larper
