Hogs, retirement for intelligence agents who did fucked up shit, a very strange gridded road system, le trad old people who hate anyone younger than them being successful in the slightest or having fun, in general probably one of the worst states next to kansas

>>2753376
There’s a decent townball baseball league. The deer are large and well fed, the bird hunting is decent too. If you live by one of the rivers, the fishing can be pretty good.

But if you want lakes or forests or hills, you’re SOL. The land use is basically 95% monoculture row cropping. Lots of corn and beans, lots of feedlots where the corn and beans is converted to pork, turkey, or beef.

>>2753376
You drive to Minnesota

>>2753384
>gridded road system
The road system is gridded to avoid conflicting with the farmland. If you're big on ag it's a great state, decent economy, decent rights. If you want /out/... it's not the state for you. And the worst state is Ohio, uncontested.

>>2753376
Farms. All the goyslop you eat in the cities, comes from Iowa.

>>2753417
no, it's because they wanted everyone to be within a day's journey on horseback to the county seat so they threw it out in a big ol grid pattern and made a bunch of counties

>>2753376
It's accorded neutral territory where westies and easties can meet to trade breakfast burritos and barbeque

>>2753556
>within a day's journey on horseback to the county seat
This would give you get a star pattern, like in Europe.

>>2753376
It's where the old middle class from the Western states will move and retire. IE your future nursing home. Mock the plains states all you want, they're going to be the last affordable place to live in America so the poorfags on this board will inevitably land there eventually. You will be priced out of the fucking Ozarks of all places, /out/ in the future will be for rich Texans and Californians

>>2754875
>Would produce a star if implemented by idiots for Serfs who couldn't afford horses.
Ftfy bong. We have horses in America and the goal was to be there in a day--not to have a direct line there. These things are not the same.

>>2754947
That isn't how economics works, goofball.

>>2755168
Oh wow. The American fails to understand something but must fling shit anyway. Shut your face until you learn to use your head for more then a hatrack, sharter.

I am born, raised, and currently in Iowa

There's corn, storms, no public land, and an alcohol culture second only to Wisconsin. I live in the second biggest city and it still feels like nothing happens here. The neatest /out/ areas are the Mississippi River Valley and the Driftless Area. There's areas nearby me to explore but there's no true wilderness to experience here. If you know people with land, you can have redneck fun, which should never be pooh-poohed if you get the right people together.

For real /out/ I go to the UP, seven hours away. Chicago is 4.5 hours away for social events.

>>2754947
lol

>>2753376
I PUSH MY FINGER INTO MY ASS

>>2753376
nothing, so stay the fuck way
-t Dubuquer

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Also this

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>>2755192
>eurp still too stupid to understand simple 2d geometry
kek.

Handful of mediocre state park lakes.

>>2755186
Idk anon tell me the cost of living in Colorado vs Kansas right now. And while you're looking that up, you should check to see how many immigrants used to live in California and what the average home value vs Colorado was when they moved.

Most of the West has already priced out poorfags.

>>2753376
corn

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>>2755919
GENTLEMEN

lots of rivers for fishing

There are still spots of virgin oak savanna in parts of Eastern Iowa

>>2753376
>>2753392
>>2755275
Iowanons, thoughts on Des Moines?

>>2753376
Incest and meth overdosing

>>2756906
It desperately wants to be Chicago >>2756912
Kys

>>2756906
I've lived in Iowa for 26 non-consecutive years and I've been to Des Moines like three times. The one time I stayed there for than a day and had the chance to walk around downtown on a Friday night, I was struck by how there were zero other people out. The only pedestrians I came across were a congregation of urban youths doing some light vandalism. Kind of like Chicago. I would hate to live in Des Moines.

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>>2755919
You know what they say about country girls and corn

>>2756939
>It desperately wants to be Chicago
thats more pathetic than incest and meth desu

>>2753417
Ohio has the whole Hocking Hills area, southern and southeastern Ohio have great hiking and camping spots.

>>2757847
>Ohio
fuck off

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>>2753417
>worst state is Ohio
Can you please explain in some detail why you say this?

>>2757948
some dipshit who doesn't realize ohio is connected to a great lake, probably from the southwest in Ohio

>>2757948
he's a redditor tourist
>le ohio bad

Idaho > Iowa > ohio

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I live in the driftless area in iowa.

There's effigy mounds, spook cave, big spring hatchery, pikes peak, and some others.(that's all I can think of off top of my head atm in the driftless area)

There's other outdoors shit too elsewhere just got too look. Reason why iowa gets a bad rep because the farmers fucked up most the environment in this state and it's depressing. I personally think iowa is a underrated state.

>>2760052
I have lived in Cedar Rapids, IA, and a little west of Madison, WI (Mount Horeb) - never realized 99.9% of my life has been spent inside the Driftless Area. Dubuque, IA, Galena, IL, and Spring Green, WI, have been my go-to spots for day trips.

>>2760052
fellow driftless chad

>>2760052
>tfw kayaking down the Turkey River this weekend
<feels good>

>>2760052
Are the Dells part of the driftless area? what are they all about?

>>2760717
>Are the Dells part of the driftless area?
Barely
>what are they [The Wisconsin Dells] all about?
A gigantic tourist trap

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>>2761029
hey now
the Dells themselves are worth seeing
and indoor waterparks are pretty great

>>2760052
Thank you for encouraging californians to move to iowa bro.

>>2753376
Nothing, and that’s the secret. If you know, you know.

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>>2761029
It may be a tourist trap but it’s quite pretty there

>>2761560
>>2761176
keep walking wisconsian faggots
This is an Iowegean thread

The /out/ gets more kino the closer you get to the Mississippi. There are some nice state parks

Turns out everyone on /out/ lives in Iowa, this explains a lot.

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depends, where i live in the state there is a lot more public land around so theres options, gonna go camping and hunting as much as a i can this autumn
especially crow season
also death to Illinois and Minnesota

>>2753392
Lot of the hills out here are small family farms as the terrain is suited towards it, the big corporate factory farms are in the lowlands, including the large constructions for industrial animal farms.

>>2753392
>If you live by one of the rivers, the fishing can be pretty good.
Sure if you like sitting around waiting for catfish, gar, or walleye; especially on the west side of the state

Went kayaking on the Turkey River again, cooler than last weekend, but the water was a little lower.

>>2753376
So little, the greatest portion of astronauts that walked on the moon came from Ohio. There's something about that place that just drives people to leave the planet

>>2763324
Wrong state

On the west side we got the Loess Hills which are basically mini mountains. Otherwise farmers rip out trees at a rate that would make the whole logging industry look like tree hugging hippies.

>>2760052
Why is it driftless? Are you not allowed to drift in there?

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>>2753412
they come to us

>>2764156
>Never covered by ice during the last ice age, the area lacks the characteristic glacial deposits known as drift. Its landscape is characterized by steep hills, forested ridges, deeply carved river valleys, and karst geology with spring-fed waterfalls and cold-water trout streams.

Driftless = no drift rock buildup = also no glacial erosion = steep hills and deep river valleys

>>2757965
>>2758364

Growing up in the midwest I hated ohians for having the most annoying fake superiority complex or moving to my state and still flying ohio/OSU flags all over the place.

After living in california and meeting wealthy west coasties or new england transplants, I realize we have a lot more in common. You guys aren't all that bad.

>>2764179
That isn't the one in Dubuque is it?

>>2764280
Every iowan in this thread is actually a dubuquer

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>>2764179
>Minnesota has 20 casinos
>even ones with marinas and boat docks
lol

>>2764333
Boomersplayingslotmachines.webm

>>2764347
>still dont have to go to Iowa
lol

>>2760052
>spook cave

You got nigger caves?

>>2764330
Not me. I live in the People's Republic.
>>2764523
My family owns property near Spook Cave. My brother and uncle went there once and enjoyed it, though my brother thinks Maquoketa is better. I was doing some reading about it a few days ago. Spook Cave is navigated in boats with tours lasting 45 minutes. It is a private cave developed in the 50's. It is intentionally flooded from Bloody Run to raise the water level from knee deep to navigable. Every winter, they lower it to dredge the mud out. For a while, it's been on my list of things to do, especially since it closes after October, but I don't have someone to go with and don't feel like riding around in the dark with some teenager or weird Driftless person. The people up there are really weird.

>>2764591
>People's Republic
Of Illinois or Wisconsin?

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>>2764591
My woman used to be a tour guide for spook cave. Just go with a random group they don't care or go by yourself. Just don't be a fucking monkey touching the stalactites, or a jew always tip the tour guide.

>>2755275
>There's corn, storms, no public land, and an alcohol culture second only to Wisconsin.
I and/or we mog you.
>t. wisconsinigger

>>2761176
>>2761029
I love the Dells personally
Sucks it's crowded to the point of it being suffocating though

>>2764623
of Iowa. It's otherwise known as Iowa City.
>>2764641
I called AAA to get my tire changed last week. The guy who showed up asked for a tip. I brought it up to a couple people, one of whom I know to be a very good tipper, and they both said that's outrageous. For a tour, I can understand that a tip would make sense, but how much do I give, and is this a cash at the end kind of thing? If so, I'll be sure to have some on-hand.
I would prefer to not go with strangers because of what I heard from my family. They said they weren't interested in hearing stupid ghost stories, so the guide didn't tell them. I don't want to hear 45 minutes of childish rambling. With strangers, the option to opt out does not exist.

>>2764591
I drove past Spook Cave last weekend on the way to Yellow River State Forest. A boat tour in a cave sounds cool but I visited Mammoth and Hidden River Caves a few weeks ago and realized what I really want is a no-tour cave to explore

>>2764777 √
Crystal Lake cave is the best

>>2764777
Did you go to the Ice Cave? I went a couple months ago, but there was no ice. I'll go again if there is guaranteed ice.
I seem to handle heat better than those around me, despite being a fatty. But when I went to Europe this summer, I never felt rested for most of the trip due to never getting fully cooled. Just a couple hours in a cold room would've rejuvenated me for a day or two. I was in dire straits on a day long train journey, going through ketosis on a packed train, and one of the heat escapes that came to mind was a cave. I'm excited to go to a cave again, provided that it is a relatively spacious one. Built-in lighting that allows me to see without a flashlight would be nice too.

>>2764842
I have been to a cave called "Ice Cave" at Wapsipinicon State Park but it's very small and only goes about 30 feet back.

I don't think you'll find any real caves here that ever have ice in them, even in the winter - the temperature stays around 60 degrees F at all times for most caves. But if I'm wrong I'd like to go visit those caves too.

>>2765113
It sounds like we're talking about the same cave, but the cave is in Decorah, not near Anamosa. Go look up pictures or go to Google to read about it. It gets icy in the summer because of an "underground glacier" that cools rainfall, I think. The best time to go is late summer.

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>>2765255
There's definitely an Ice Cave in Anamosa
But there very will could be an Ice Cave in Decorah

Scanning through this thread, Ohio still seems better than Iowa, if only due to Great Lakes access. I would be more willing to believe that Kansas is the worst /out/ state.
>>2755743
Monster of a patch. Cool looking lake.
>>2760052
I've never heard of this area, it seems pretty cool.

>>2764623
>Wisconsin
>People’s Republic
Come on now it’s not full blue, it’s a swing state and more Republican than Michigan and Pennsylvania

>>2765382
>Monster of a patch.
Thanks.
>Cool looking lake
That's actually the Mississippi River when it was over flood stage this spring

>>2765382
>Ohio still seems better than Iowa, if only due to Great Lakes access.
Most of Iowa is worse than Ohio because all the outdoors are farmed. The driftless area of Iowa is better than Ohio.
Also Ohio smells like pollution

If Iowa is so great why do I always see you faggots in Milan?

>>2765454
Because big farmers have big money

>>2765457
Aight you pass. You’d think they’d want to break in and you know it’s making Joni’s ass twitch watching that tax money go to the QC and Galesburg.

>>2765457
For reference I’m in Hellinois but grew up in Iowa. The southern part still has some wild areas all along the Chariton and along the Mississippi.

>>2765461
I drove through southern Illinois while driving from Gatlinburg, TN, to Cedar Rapids, IA
The only good thing I can say about it is that the roads are flat, straight, and uncrowded so maintaining 90 mph is easy

>>2765460
>making Joni’s ass twitch watching that tax money
Thanks for that mental picture. But you'd think if she REALLY cared about tax money she would legalize cannabis

>>2765524
The bar association/alcohol lobby in Iowa (and Wisconsin) are particularly powerful, and they are anti-weed because it will eat greatly into their profits

>>2764265
Not going to lie, every elitist and piece of shit I have encountered are Ohians or what ever the heck they call themselves. Walked around like their shit didn't stink.

I feel like if Iowa's representatives actually had their shit together, they'd make a National Park or Forest for the Driftless Area and do their best to put the HQ and major hubs as much as possible in Iowa. Then they wouldn't be a blank space on the /out/ maps.

Look at the stupid bullshit the Missouri ones managed to pull, for inspiration:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Arch_National_Park#Redesignation

>>2765454
I went to Florence recently, some sightseeing before a summer school. I saw far more South Americans and Filipinos than Americans. During my whole trip to Europe, I hardly encountered an American. What makes you say that you've seen Iowans?
>>2765503
Why go to CR?
>>2765530
They could make even more money by getting into the weed industry instead of losing business to Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan, and clandestine entrepreneurs.
>>2765574
National Parks are dogshit, as discussed in another active thread. I'm glad we have none. Let people think we are a flat, backward, corn-infested shithole. There are way too many invading my town in particular.

>>2765622
>Why go to CR?
Unfortunately, I live there

>>2765800
I got a nail in my tire there a couple weeks ago. I'm an art afficionado, and I must say that the art museum is incredible. I had a great time. Considering the cost of the patch and plug, I'd say it was worth it.

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>>2765897
I haven't been to the art museum in a very long time. Did you see the new library across the street?

I grew up with the old Cedar Rapids library - now there was a building with soul. The loss of that architecture was the greatest loss of the Flood.

>>2753376
Corn and windmills

>>2753376
that's where the tall corn grows

>>2766771
>>2766745
dont forget the bacon!

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>>2753376
>What exactly happens in Iowa?

>>2768169
If you build it
They will come

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>>2769465
Whenever I think I'm fed up with Field of Dreams references, I remember to be thankful that people don't quote The Crazies or Cedar Rapids or Slipknot songs at me

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>>2769698
Lmfao! The fact you used a red green photo proves you’re from Iowa. Channel 12? You know it’s cold outside… there’s no kind of atmosphere… im all alone… more or less.

>>2769698
I'll push my fingers into your eyes if you keep complaining.

>>2769698
>Slipknot songs
I push my fingers into my eyes

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>>2760675
>>2763306
i took my phone on the last kayaking trip

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>>2770921
Nice. I'll go there some day. Here's where I fished yesterday. I had a great time, but at this very moment, I'm sitting on the toilet, having barely made it home, with diarrhea. I was careful to spit after lubricating my line or if a splash of water got near my mouth. The creek smelled better than my usual wading spot, which has two smelly sewage treatment plants, but there are some pig farms along this stream.

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>>2771201
>pig farms along this stream
Oh anon, I hate to break this to you but the whole damn state is pig shit.

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>>2771201

>>2771270
This is not AI, so I am quite impressed. I have determined that I got sick from a breakfast sandwich I ate. I'm sensitive to bacteria in eggs, and the restaurant changed their supplier. I might return to that stream tomorrow.

>>2753376
It's underrated.
It's not good, per say, but lacking any federal investment into a park, forest, or really any other wilderness land, it's not so bad. Plenty of state level public land for hunting, fishing, camping, etc, but it's mostly plains cut up with a few river valleys.
Hunting is pretty good if you like pheasant, sharptail, and deer.

>>2753376
Iowa is not real. It's a place we've made up to scare young children into eating their vegetables. Like France or Brazil.

>>2772072
>Iowa is not real
He’s joking but he doesn’t understand how surreal it actually is or how accurate that statement is.

>>2772072
>Iowa is not real.
True statement
T- Iowegian
>>2772092
This guy gets it

>>2772072
>>2772092
>>2772157
I don't understand the meaning of this. Maybe, I'm bluepilled. Is it that Iowa does not factor into the minds of most Americans and people of the world? I agree with that, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Do you view Iowa as a imaginative construct, like the American Dream, and are thereby refuting its existence since the real Iowa is not what you had hoped? Or do you simply believe that Iowa isn't real in the same way flat Earthers believe the Earth is flat?

>>2772438
No, I mean that it doesn't exist. If I told you there was a country full of people who spoke an effeminate language, never washed and ate snails and frogs, you wouldn't believe me - or would you?

>>2772438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtQwt7s7ZOA

>>2772458
You are obviously describing France. Yes, France exists. Customs, culture, and technology can differ greatly from country to country, even in the 21st century.

>>2772753
It's a joke you cretin.

>>2769699
I finished playing outside on a Saturday night when my parents turned Red Green on and then immediately had to go to bed, your reference goes over my head
I do remember Jack Horkheimer's show's intro

There's only a handful of backpacking options in Iowa and even the best of them still feel like you're camping on the back half of your grandparents farm by the creek that wasn't suitable for farming. This state will spend hundreds of millions on bicycling but won't spend a tenth of that to make better parks. There's a few places in southwest and south central iowa where if they just expanded the parks a little bit we'd really have some great /out/ options.

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>>2753376
Ever seen Lord of the Rings? Iowa is like the Shire for hobbits. Mostly boring, flat, affordable, and usually welcoming for most people (except that we are full so fuck off).

>>2773948
That pic is super outdated.

>>2773948
Grim image, how can these places allow the libtards to ruin their states

>>2773948
i was hoping someone would post this
>>2774322
just update the governor and its up to date

>>2774404
No. Look into current gun laws. Use Google. It's surprisingly easy.

>>2774600
>look into current gun laws
What has changed???

>>2773948
Still doing meth out there? You guys haven't moved on to fentanyl yet? Like a state-sized time machine.

>>2774927
>Still doing meth out there?
No, we're all alcoholics and potheads in Iowa

>>2769698

They got red green in iowa?

>>2771267

Damn do you get wicked algal blooms in your water bodies from all the phosphorus? Or is that mainly a great lakes problem?

>>2774964
If the women don’t find ya handsome they should at least find you handy.

Iowa is like the southern extreme of Canada.

>>2774980
Oh thats funny i live in the southern extreme of canada

>>2774996
There’s even an abundance of Amish.

>>2774980
>Iowa is like the southern extreme of Canada.
I'm taking that as a compliment

>>2762457
That's how it is across Appalachia. The terrain is suited towards small farms owned by families rather than huge warehouse-style factory farms owned by faceless corporations that traffick and exploit migrants at illegal wages while polluting the land and waters.

>>2775837
>faceless
The exploitation of land, water, and flesh are their faces

>>2775983
>exploitation of land, water, and flesh are their faces
Explore
Expand
Exploit
EXTERMINATE

I would like to read some long form content from a Slipknot member on Iowa, the sort of thing you'd find in the Atlantic or a similar publication, or maybe a couple hour interview.

Weather has finally gotten nice in Iowa. Last week, two hot days made me sick. Now, it's time for fall fishing.

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>>2774927
>Still doing meth out there?
Honestly no, meth usage is lower than fent here. Most people think that Iowa is a druggy central but in reality has the third lowest rate of any drug overdose including meth, fentanyl, etc. Weird to think right, our opioid addiction rate is also incredibly low by US standards too alongside South Dakota and Nebraska. Being an extremely boring state is amazing in this sense oddly because no homeless drug addicts come here because it's cold as fuck in the winter, hot as fuck in the summer, there is almost no scenery, drug usage is giga banned, and our states tell the homeless to fuck off when they try to invade our parks so they end up moving on to warmer more hospitable states. The big drug we use here, almost as much as Wisconsin, is alcohol.

>>2774404
>i was hoping someone would post this
It's out of date like mentioned. Kim Reynolds has been governor for like 7 years so it's probably about a decade old.
>Fuck Nebraska
Maybe things are different on the western side of the state but people here in the east/central mostly hate the FIBs (Fucking Illinoisan Bastards). Truthfully most FIBs are alright, it's just Chicago that acts like they're better than everyone.
>Shall Issue
CCW no longer required here, permits take a couple weeks to get. No pistol purchase permits any more either.
>TFW no suppressors yet
We can get suppressors no problem, we can't get AOWs and preban machine guns though.
>Muh bakken
Nobody talks about that anymore, must be from like 2015 when we had all the protestors.

Rest of it is pretty accurate though.

>>2778456
It hasn't appreciably rained for almost a month
As a mushroom hunter, I am dying here

>>2778737
Yeah, that really sucks, but at least we got rain in the spring. I am hopeful that we'll get some rain this fall.

>>2753376
field of dreams

>>2765376
Saw about 40 Brook trout in a tiny pool in a stream by the ice cave in decorah. Not the river itself but a tiny creek no more than 3 feet at its widest

>>2780146
Wow. That's cool. I'd love to see you and more Iowans post in the fishing thread. Pretty soon, I'm going to go to South Pine Creek to do a brown trout catch and cook, since the DNR seems to want anglers to get rid of them.

>>2780207
I want to start fishing (and duck hunting) but I don't really know where to start. I was raised on 4chan and pop culture so I am deficient in skills that actually matter.

>>2778831
Without rain there's no reason to even get off the couch. I was really going to try and find wild Corn Smut (on account of all the damn corn here) and make huitlacoche. Maybe next year.

>>2774980
From what I've read here Iowa is Saskatchewan

>>2780268
You might be a bit late to get into duck hunting this year, but fishing, especially in the Driftless, is an all year activity, and that doesn't even include ice fishing. My recommendation for you is to get into fishing first, since you'd need to take hunter's safety, buy a shotgun, buy waders, and get out hunting right away. Fishing, I'd just recommend that you watch some videos, look at some maps, and get out their yourself--much lower barrier to entry. Let me know if you would like some Iowa resources.

>>2778737
>>2778831
Southern MN here. We got all our rain for the year between May and July. We're all done now. No more sky water.

>>2781010
Yeah. It would be nice if we got some, though. That spring rain was really nice.

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Many independent nations.

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Communities rely on sufficiently strong “pest control” in order to thrive.

A castle is a soul.
Clearly the world has had pestilence issues. However thankfully the churches are finally being destroyed across the world.

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went to an Oak savanna a few weekend ago, i hope /out/ enjoys it

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>>2781096
i love this tree so much

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>>2781097

>>2781097
Looks like could use some sheep and cattle desu

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guys we won

>>2781133
Midwesterners are weirdos. On the highway they're speed demons and in town they go 10 under

God forbid you hit a four way stop, get comfortable

>>2781133
Yeah that’s why I don’t go to leclair. How’s that tugfest faggots? Iowa can’t pull. Port Byron represent.

Can someone tell me about life in Postville? I'm particularly interested in the Hassidim but also interested in the other groups.

>>2781178
That is the gayest thing I've read in a while.

>>2781259
>108 countries and one Iowa town
Iowa is a hotbed of cult activity. Tucked away in Tom’s of quiet little areas are crazies of every variety. Mormons, Jews, Amish, various other apocalypse cults. Wanna see some shit look into the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield ia. Shits crazy!

>>2781347
They seem like a cult, but they're not a cult. They're just a used up boomer trend. It's hilarious how significant they were by the 70's and how insignificant they are now. If you are a white person doing TM, you are the guy in the YouTube comments saying you're not like the other kids, that your uncle showed you what good music was in the seventh grade. I think the university is a shit school only useful for Indians and whites who can't get into any other school yet are too stupid to get a trade.

>>2781347
>108 countries
Iowa only has 99 counties, tourist

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>>2781362
Fuck Kossuth county

>>2781429
IPhone poster

You seem mad

>>2781579
Kek. Nah but you’re still a kike. Let me guess quad cities fag?