>ruins your camping experience
>>2768125why?
>>2768125>gets wet, works 30 minutes later>seemingly endless supply of fuel; 1,000x’s more likely to be lost before it runs out>weighs nothing>cheap>available everywhere OP confirmed to be gay and retarded
>>2768126>>2768127just stay home cityboy
Did you forget to remove the little bitch piece of metal thingy from the striker?
>>2768126OP thinks the outdoors should be uncomfortable.
>>2768125
>>2768125I prefer Djeeps, even if the child safety mechanism is harder to remove.
>>27681252 mini bics > 1 bic
>>2768125yh RAW jet lighters are soo much better
>50 lighters for $50>1 quality ferro rod for $20, imaginary 3 pack for $50>each lighter worth 2500-3000 lights>each rod worth 8000-12000 strikes>50 bics X 2500 lights = 125,000 potential fires>3 rods X 12000 strikes = 36,000 potential firesEven if you're successful with one perfect ferro rod strike per fire, and it takes 3 attempts to light a fire with each shitty bic, you still get over 6,000 more fires out of the same 50 dollar bill. Plus all the other advantages that come with a more reliably flame-producing single-strike pocket-sized piece of equipment, like melting the ends of fraying ropes while away from camp or whatever other non-autist uses you can imagine.
>enhances your camping experience while making you look cool af
>>2768534>while making you look cool afWhen I'm alone in the wilderness, I don't give a fuck how cool I look since nobody's around anyway. Also, it's embarrassing that anyone would have to use any sort of lighter to light a fire.
>>2768553>it's embarrassing that anyone would have to use any sort of car to get places. horse wagons exist, after all!im not using my ferro rod when my lighter works perfectly and lights fires instantly
>>2768553>have toGrow up.
>>2768738>>2768742>not using flint and steelcasuals
>>2768743i know how to use a flint and steel, but why waste my time when there's a quicker and easier solution? so i can look like a true outdoorsman when there's no one around?
>there are two wolves inside you
>>2768125For some reason Bics are near impossible to find here in the UK. When I have used them they seem so small like they will run out fast, but I have limited experience of them.For me it's clippers. They are very wind resistant, they last a long time (despite not having a flame size adjuster), you can refill them since the flint last a long time, and I like the shape.
>>2768743A Bic does use flint and steep you donut.
>>2768764Based France still dabbing on Anglos.
>>2768772>ackshuallyYou know what I mean, you lowly dropping of dogshit. Try telling someone that you're using flint and steel when you light your Bic and watch how hard you get laughed at.
>>2768776Hey bozo, two quick questions- does a bic have a flint? How about steel?
>>2768778One quick question. Have you ever started a fire without using a cigarette lighter?
>>2768780Yes. I frequently use flint and steel akshually. But here's the thing- I have my flint and steel rigged up in this plastic contraption that is portable, reliable, cheap, and durable.
>>2768780Do you hunt all your meals with a sharpened rock on a stick?What is your logic behind using a flint and steel? Steel is a fairly modern invention and ferro rods are made in a factory in China. So obviously it isn't tradition. Lighters are pretty light, about the same mass as a ferro rod. So it isn't weight. My guess is you saw it in an anime.
>>2768781>plastic>>2768782Because I prefer not using disposable plastic junk. And I'm a bowhunter.
>>2768784>I'm a bowhunter nta, but what you said before makes a lot of sense suddenly
>>2768222I bet you prefer nuts djeep in your ass
>>2768534more like>leaks fuel everywhere and goes out when turned sideways
>>2768787this guy has actually tried to use a zippo.zippos look pretty cool but are fucking useless compared to even cheap gas station lighters, let alone the gold standard Bic
>>2768784Lol you know I am also a bowhunter, but I'd never be so cringe as to say it like that. I mean I could go even further and try to have a cringe-off with you and explain that I even use traditional archery. But I don't see any reason to go there. I bowhunt because it's sport, and I find it fun. But I'm not going to sit here like a retard and pretend a bow isn't inferior to a gun kek. Hunting is sport, starting a fire is utility. And a bic lighter is probably one of the most utilitarian items man has ever made.
>>2768746There’s a subset of people (retards) who believe that outdoor activities shouldn’t be easy or comfortable, but also shouldn’t be completely income for table or really hard either. They’ll carry a 45lb pack but 80lbs is just ridiculous. They’ll use a fero rod but using a fire bow is just too far.
>>2768798>people are retards for hiking with a heavier packIt's called training you drooling low-IQ subhuman. If that's too much for you to handle, you could start by putting the tub of ice cream down and doing some squats.
>>2768125wtf are you on about gayboybic just works
>>2768787>>2768790I put a piece of bicycle innertube on mine when I take it innawoods, which helps fuel retention a lot.
>>2768772>>2768778>>2768781ackshually it uses ferrocerium and steel, which is significantly different
>>2768826sounds cool. i just wouldn't bother. they are heavy, they leak, they don't work at odd angles, and they might just stop working on day 5 when you expected 7 days.i mean bro i was 19 once too. can you do the trick where you flip open the zippo and snap your fingers to light it? bitches love that shit. or they used to back in 1998. but your zippo should stay at home when you go /out/.
>>2768821>you should work outPost body (you fucking won’t, lol)>hiking should be uncomfortableHallmark of the newfag.
>>2768838Yes, we should totally believe some fat keyboard warrior over the experts who recommend weighted backpacks for training hikes and the military which incorporates rucking for training. Also I'm not going to post my bod for fags to jack off to.
>>2768764>They are very wind resistantWhat if, hold on, wind is part of what makes it work?
>>2768846>calls others fat>wont post bodyClassic, and expected. >experts sayNo they don’t.>the army does itAnd everyone in the military wants a lighter pack.No one is speaking out against exercise you fucking tard.
>>2768861Steve House wrote the fucking bible for outdoor athletes and he recommends adding weight to your pack over time. You wouldn't know becuase you're a fat shitposting queer. Your father must be so proud of raising a fucking failure like you. >No one is speaking out against exercise you fucking tard.We're talking about exercise with weighted backpacks. Learn to read and keep up, you fucking ESL imbecile
>>2768864>We're talking about exercise with weighted backpacks. And where did anyone say not to do that, fat ass?
>>2768869Again, learn to read >>2768798 where you or someone else said that people stupidly hike with 45 lb packs to make things more difficult. That's the fucking point if you're training properly.
>>2768872And you think I’m the one with a reading comprehension problem?And again, you’re fat until you prove otherwise. And here’s a picture of me, looking exceptionally not fat.
>>2768874nice real flat sheltered forest hike you got there champ.
>>2768874If I post a photo showing that I am not fat, will you agree to fuck off?
>>2768876>that 50’ section of trail looks flat>therefor the entire area is flatIt’s GSMNP. It doesn’t matter though, because you’re a fat child sperging about fitness advice you read online.
>>2768884she doth protest to muchnow i know you are a flatlander faggot
>>2768874>you’re fat until you prove otherwiseFine, I'll bite. Does this look fat to you, dickhead?
>>2768891Skinny fat, yeah. Please tell us more about how you achieved this physique.
>>2768893>flat stomach and swole quads = skinny fat somehow
>>2768894>blurry inside picture showing nothing at allCan’t find a si gel picture of yourself outside? Damn bro, what are you even doing?
>>2768897>taking selfies on his outingsOnly women and fags do that
>>2768898>embarrassed to take a picture of himselfI’d be the same way if I was a skinny fat weirdo with no friends or loved ones to share photos with.
>>2768898>>2768874
>>2768899>you can only share selfies with others like a teenage girl
>>2768901oh no is this nigga really admitting he takes selfies and doesn't even share them? like this nigga is just aspiring to have facebook?
>>2768903No dumbass, I don't take selfies whatsoever. How in fuck's name did you arrive at that conclusion from my last post?
>>2768900Dumb. The picture is of me. I’m not pretending it’s a picture of anything else. >>2768901>writes this sentence>calls others ESL>>2768903He doesn’t have anyone to share them with
>>2768905I share my regular outdoor photos with friends and family all the time. Not selfies because I'm not a bitch.
>>2768126They explode in the backpack
>>2768907Prove it.
>>2768907>hey mom check this out it's called "battoning"
>>2768909How am I supposed to prove that?
>>2768874>>2768905Looking at the picture of my obviously nice physique under my shirt, that I’m out in chilly fall weather, and the fact that I have actual girls that I talk to and have sex with, I now realize I mog 90% of this board.
>>2768911>but how though?I just fucking did, retard. See: >>2768905Or do you just post bullshit on Instagram and FB and hope for a like? Fucking loser.
>>2768913I don't whore myself on social media like you, faggot
>>2768912Only an insecure manchild would make a post like this to a bunch of strangers
>>2768914>doesn’t share photos on social media>can’t take a screenshot of messages where he shares these picturesThis nigga mails out his photos when he shares them
>>2768918No, I send links to my online photo albums retard
>>2768916And only someone who was mogged and feels bad about it would say some gay shit like this.
>>2768920I'm secure enough about myself that I don't need to make posts like yours, fuckface. I know your type.
>>2768923Seethe and cope.
>>2768923>your typeA tall athletic outdoorsy sex haver?
>>2768927No, a typical insecure American faggot
>>2768928>assuming insecuritylol nope>eurofaggotFigures
>>2768852Yes, I like this for a backup. You twisted my arm, and now I have no choice but to get one for myself, with a spare rope.>>2768790I learned this the hard way. They are good for home smoking because the CLICK-CRRSHH sound they make when you open/close them is very relaxing, and almost becomes part of the experience. The smell is also enjoyable. But for when you need a reliable flame? Even a decent box of matches would be preferable. I have a copper coloured one that makes me happy, it's like having a Ford Model T just for the fun of it, and then using a modern car for actual daily tasks.>>2768774 I enjoy Bic as a company, short for ubiquitous -- present, appearing, or found everywhere. Those ballpoint pens were THE pen you saw everywhere up until say 5-10 years ago, they had that market absolutely nailed down. My problem is that I never wrote well with them no matter how hard I tried.But yeah, there must be a lighter embargo between England and France because you won't find those little Bic lighters for sale anywhere here, and you won't see anyone using them.
>>2768829Typically it stays home but sometimes I like to carry the Zippo due to nostalgia and as an extra option in very cold weather.