I don't sharpen my knives.
retard, sharpening is inevitable, honing just prolongs it
faggot, honing is sharpening. if you don't think honing is removing any material you are a bozo. it's sharpening.
>>2790807I am guessing you have only ever seen the hones with impregnated abrasives.A good old fashioned hone is dead smooth and no material is removed
ESL here, what do the therms mean?1. when I use a steel to touch up the blade2. when I use a fine water stone every know and then to get it back to really sharp? I know whats the difference and why i do it, just not the correct terms in english
I'm too stupid to figure out how to sharpen a knife. Can I just get a hone and be fine enough? I rarely even use a knife. I'll just take my knife to a sharpener once a decade
What I read was that honing is for realigning ever so tiny bends on the apex. I think stropping accomplishes the same thing.
>>2790799>i dont sharpen my knivestypical
>>27908331. honing2. sharpening>>2790840most of the time all you need is a hone to bring back your edge. I hone my kitchen knives before every use and only sharpen them when they need it...maybe every 18 months. >>2790842stropping is a form of honing
clearly. you don't need to sharpen knives you never use.
Bench grinder, vvvvt, vvvvt, done.
>>2790828If no material is removed, how does it get sharp? That makes no sense. Bare minimum, honing takes off burrs. >>2790882>most of the time all you need is a hone to bring back your edge. I hone my kitchen knives before every use and only sharpen them when they need it...maybe every 18 months.Depends on the hardness of the steel. I had this peanut shaped pocket knife from Jimmy Carter's 1976 presidential campaign back in the 80's. That steel was so fucking hard you couldn't sharpen it with anything less than a powered stone. You could do the Zorro thing all day with a ceramic stick and it would be just as dull as when you started.
>>2790923It has nothing to do with the hardness of the steel whether a knife can be honed or not. It has entirely to do with the edge itself. On a microscopic level, all blades are serrated. Honing straightens those microscopic tips. Over time, those tips will wear and break off. Eventually you will need to create a new edge. That is when sharpening comes in. Your old butter knife couldn't be honed because it didn't have a good edge to begin with. Once you sharpen it, you can then hone it to maintain the blade.
>>2790927This is closer , and mostly correct but leaves out the fact that the apex itself can become bent over , not just a mirco serration This is what is most often felt when honing and no material is removed
>>2790948This is my understanding also. When I learned to sharpen I used a digital microscope to examine my work.
>>2790807>t.has never tried to "sharpen" a knife with a rolled or blunted edge
>>2790840>Can I just get a hone and be fine enough?Eh. For the most part, yeah. Or you could be a man and use the bottom of a ceramic mug that you already own, instead of buying a steel
I can never tell if I'm doing it right or if its having no affect or if I'm actively ruining the edge even more
>>2791212My friend swears by the sound it makes to tell you you're doing it right. He says the more the knife rings the more likely it is being honed well. Not sure if that's true though.
>>2791203Those do not hone. The ceramic mug trick works because its abrasive
>>2790807I honed your mom and if anything , there was more materiel than when I started
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>>2791212thats why you check your progress with your thumb or a piece of paper, there is no learning without feedback.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_kicceUa8walso to the "no material removal" guys, watch and cope
>>2793993That video does not show material removal
>>2793996? he removed the entire edge on an atoma plate and recreated it with the rod in a single take without letting go of the knife.
>>2793997He bent the apex on the stainless steel of the atoma then re aligned it with the hone
>>2793998>stainless steel of the atomaa troll has to be based on factsThe non grit side of the atoma is soft aluminium which tool steel doest care about cutting, the other electroplated nickle with protruding diamonds
>>2793999I can see where you are going wrong, but I am powerless to explain it to you in a way you can understand I am sorry
>>2794000cope
>>2790799I just put my knives in a wire pyramid connected to an AA battery with the positive lead grounded.The battery isn't necessary if you keep the wire pyramid near a powerful router, live near high voltage power lines, or a radio tower.
You can't "hone" a knife indefinitely you retarded nigger. Any edge is bound to get blunt as the microscopic serrations wear off with use. Honing just straightens them. Can't straighten nothing.
>his hone doesn't have a saber guardHow do you defend your honor in the kitchen?Honesty I never use this on my /out/ knives, they just get river rocks or the same as my lawnmower
>>2790799Ceramic doesn't hone. Ceramic sharpens. >>2790807GR8 B8
>>2795832>>2795811and that one with the straight grooves is essentially a hard, reamer shaped metal file, draw filing the knife.
>>2795832>Ceramic doesn't hone. Ceramic sharpens.Ceramic is used to take off the burr, by which point a knife is already sharp as the apex has already been established with actual abrasives.
