>be me>adult now, so i wanted to buy a good knife>always wanted one since i was a kid. No money and time so i waited>was going for a gerber but decided to do some research >find an esse 4>"wow that's an amazingly durable knife">buy on blade hq>2 days later>turns out the same knife can be made with 2 different steel>didnt know this until now>check the knife i saw on review>it's s35v>check mine>it's 1095>"Your order has been shipped">mfw
>>2797346/out/ - Outdoors?
>>2797346We live in the age of cheap fairly high quality steels. Some are better than others, but you can buy a beater knife for $30 today that will be higher quality than most that were used in the past centuries. So I collect pocket knives because I like them but the reality is that as far as actually using them for things besides opening packages, I recommend getting a nice solid cheap fixed blade knife- and use it like a beater. You don't have to worry about breaking or losing it. And hey if you mess it up who really cares. The two best knives I ever bought were 1. This little Ontario Knife sheeps-foot fixed blade that I've been using mostly like a little shovel for years now when I dig up plants. 2. This big giant goofy looking Cold Steel throwing style Bowie. It's just a big hunk of metal and it fits down in my boot well because it doesn't have a real handle. I abuse both of these knives- throw them at trees, etc etc. and I've yet to damage either of them seriously.
Knife faggots will disagree because they're hyper autists, but 1095 is the fucking goat. Enjoy having a knife that actually works like a knife, and be a man and endure the mild discoloration of carbon. It will take 100 years to rot away even if you neglect it don't be such a woman
>>27973461095 is alright. The esee 4 is a shitty design, though. It's one of those "knives" that are designed on the assumption that the owner is a retard. Way to thick, with blunt angles on the adge so that even batoning or striking it against a nail won't break or chip it.The only thing knives like that are good for are combat (where the extra rigidity means it'll also pierce leather jackets or thin kevlar) or using them as a prybar. For everything else, a 10$ Mora is far superior.On the plus side, the flat handle, uncomfortable as it is, is way easier to conceal than the roundish handles most good knives have. That's actually the only reason I own an esee, it's the only blade that size that i know of that can be concealed easily.
>>2797396>Thick knives>CombatNo.
>>2797346What's wrong with 1095?Also you should have bought an esee 5.
4 is a great choice, I went with 6. Dumb, barely used it, been a couple years now, just havnt bought another ESEE, because I can do everything I need with a smaller knife, and better, I like whittling.>>27974821095 is a good carbon steel for outdoor use, in my opinion, just gotta oil it and not leave it in a puddle of salt waterESEE 5 holy shit don't fall for the "sharpened pry bar" thing, like the becker bk2. If you want a knife, buy a knife, if you want a crowbar buy a crowbar.
>>2797482The s35v makes the 1095 obsolete
>>2797493Lol, lmao.
>>2797501most knives/machetes that actually do work, are probably still made from leaf-springs off trucks from the 60s, or olderthis whole knife steel wank just pisses me off
>>2797505Himalayan imports Chiruwa Ang Khola.Made out of a 1960's Mercedes leaf spring. I've processed more fire wood with this than my hatchet.
Meme steel is just meme steel, it's objectively "better" but does absolutely fucking nothing that any half decent steel won't. 1095 will be just fine, it's a fucking knife, a chunk of metal sharpened enough to cut things you run into. It's going to spend 99.99% of it's life going unused, the majority of that last 0.01% will be tape/rope/other soft shit with the most challenging thing it should ever face being wood. Enjoy your tool, use it responsibly, take care of it, and it will outlast your grandchildren. Hell I carry pic related most of the time, $12 at Walmart, used up/broke/lost a half dozen of them over the years. Still nowhere near the cost of a "good" knife and I don't feel bad at all about abusing the fuck out of it because it's $12. Killed my last one using it to chip dried clay out of the disc.
>>2797505https://youtube.com/shorts/hxldYaKpGJk
If you need something more expensive than this i assume it will just be used for opening funko pop boxes from amazon
>>2797346S35V is the one they made for knife collectors. Originally all of their stuff was 1095 because it was a company associated with a survival school that wanted to make real outdoors survival knives. And the knife collectors found them and for yesrs the collectors were like “Why don’t you use supersteels?! We will pay whatever you ask!” So finally Esee did it because money is money and they can make more survival knives with the money they ripped off from the collectors. But when they released the supersteel knives, they made it explcitly clear that they are collector knives and not for real world use.
>>2797563>>2797346>20CV Benchmade = Unused>1095 Esees = Abused for years daily and still going strong
If anything this thread has convinced me to never buy an esee because eseeniggers are gay as fuck
>>2797346>>check the knife i saw on review>>it's s35v>>check mine>>it's 1095You dodged a bullet. S35v is awesome in a pocket knife, but far too brittle for a beater knife like an ESEE 4.
>>2797346For an actual /out/ knife I prefer regular steels that aren't brittle and can be sharpened easily. Most high end steel is either brittle or takes an hour to sharpen.
Holy shit just get a Buck or a fixed blade.>>2797630This>>2797582Also this.
>>2797630As an /out/ newbie, this. I like a knife that is OK but that I know I can beat the shit out of without remorse. Then I'll resharpen as needed, and when it's done for, it's done for.
if you are actually outside your knife will take abuse, it will take a beating and a good knife goes blunt just like a shit knife and both can be sharpened back up with a file and a rock.knife material hardly matters.
>>2797548gardberg costs 100 usd now wtf
>>2797441>he doesn't know cotton uniforms are a thing of the pastTry taking that fairbairn-sykes and piercing through kevlar, or even just motorcycle protectors. Chances are it'll bend, or maybe even break.Part of the reason why most armies switched to massive knives like the applegate-fairbairn, the glock 79 / 81 or the KM2000.
I just use the Mora companion heavy duty in carbon steel.The last one I bought cost me £18 and has lasted me 5 years so far? The best thing about Moras is they're really good fucking knives for a low cost so you don't mind breaking them. I'm somewhat ambivalent about knives and while I enjoy using them I don't really want to put lots of extra effort into maintaining one or being extra careful when using it.Its a tool and it's going to get the shit beat out of it. If I spent hundreds on a knife, I wouldn't want to put it to heavy use. My moras, I beat the hell out of them and enjoy doing so.
