Humans were not meant to live in desert climates.
Not meant to have a fake green environment in a desert*FTFY
I love camping in the desert . mexican desert in the winter and high rocky mountain desert in the summer. What I hate is humidity
>>2799018There's no such thing as climate stasis, Anon.
>>2799018The desert filters nu-/out/.
>>2799018
>>2799018>Poor forest management due to government corruption and mishandling>intentional mishandling of forest management in order to increase frequency of fires in order to promote climate agenda>PG&E making record profits because they're not managing their lines>Water mismanagement because of aforementioned government and activist activityThese massive fires are avoidable
It's not a desert. Fire also happens in places that arent deserts.
>>2799036>Water mismanagement because of aforementioned government and activist activityWe need to save the invasive bait fish you stupid fucking chud
>>2799036>he actually believes this narrative >sweep the forestsalso this thread is pure bullshit /pol/bait. I can't even post one reference to fisting without getting band and yet this persists.
>>2799036millions of people shouldn't be settling in areas with that little precipitation annuallyhuman life is water intensive
they voted for it
>>2799047nobody voted for anything they shouldn't allow housing of that density in areas with nothing but tinderyou just shouldn't have a major city there it's not the right place, it's reckless
>>2799018Oldest known homo sapiens was from Morocco
>>2799054rocko
>>2799044nta but in Straya we do large numbers of controlled burns every year to burn in fire breaks and reduce ground litter in areas of forest that are critical failure points for outer suburbs/rural communities. I don't know what the fuck the "sweep the forests" meme means but proactive fire management (including cutting fire breaks and controlled burn offs) are basic things for trying to put civilisation next to the tinderboxes that are dry forests. You can generally tell when councils and state governments have gotten lazy on controlled burns because you start getting big fires in winter, funnily enough that seems to be what has happened here.
>>2799062they do hazard burns >8 months a year in southern california, especially in and around LA
>>2799064They might do hazard burns (I presume that is your term for a controlled burn) but do they do enough? Do they have appropriate fire breaks? That is a big one, a lot of the fatality bushfires here are because people don't maintain fire breaks on their own property, fire front comes in fast (we can have several hundred meter ember fronts so don't just depend on the road or something) and suddenly an entire hamlet is going up. All I've ever heard from mates in California is that their government looks for every excuse to do less burns, that cutback is restricted because of environmental concerns and so on. This shit is speaking my language because we have this stuff here too and it is the bane of every volunteer or career firefighter and every member of the community that does their bit.
>YOU LIVE IN A FUCKIN' DESEEERRTTT
>>2799018how about you stop electing corrupt trannies?
>>2799065In my opinion Cali could do millions of acres of rx burns a year and wildfires like those going on now would still occur. The dry east wind events that Southern California gets almost every year could drive a fire through a neighborhood that has absolutely no vegetation. It happened to a town in southern Oregon in 2020. The fire literally burned through grazed pastures, riparian draws and then into a suburb and continued on into commercial districts and residential areas. Wind events are always the driving factor for destructive fires.
>>2799033That's Las Vegas* not Phoenix
>>2799054Morocco wasn't a dessert then.
>>2799036I do think management could be beneficial in mitigating these fires but fuck you are living in a dry-ass, windy, scrub land with a ton of conifers and topographical features. Of course you are going to have bad fires. We have hurricanes it can't be avoided. Fires are sort of just part of life for the west when you look at the landscape. Some places are set up to burn frequently with cool manageable fires like the SE. I mean they burn millions of acres there every year on purpose and basically never worry about wild fires. It's humid and is a patchwork of uplands and mixed hardwood lowlands so it is basically impossible for a really bad wild fire to start. I feel like no matter how much forest management you do in the west you are still going to have hellish wildfires. I burn every two years in some spots and I've seen them go in 30mph winds with no problem. Every year in the spring and late fall if I drive home at night it looks like you're driving through a wildfire from the burns but I have never in my life seen one turn into a wildfire. Hell there are some places here I wish I could burn that won't burn.
>>2799082Sounds exactly like Western Australia. We have bad fires every year, every decade or so a town gets wiped off the map. This isn't coming from a "well if they just do X it won't be a problem" perspective, it is coming from a "why the fuck is there so much uncleared scrub in a eucalypt forest right next to a major population center?" perspective.I had family who came from Yarloop, which was almost entirely wiped out by a bushfire in 2016. I know that freak events happen. What I also know is that every image I've seen of the hills around LA (pretty much up to the edge of the sprawl) is that minimal measures are carried out in bushfire preparedness. I've seen quite a few in the rest of SoCal, but the area around LA seems to be neglectful in this aspect and that freaks me out because it is such a large population center.
>>2799089>>2799097ChatGPT ahh response
>>2799097The only thing I could see backing this problem off would be like a giant quarter mile wide break around these neighborhoods and stuff kek. People in dry scrubby windy places are ultimately going to have to learn to either live with the fires (get burnt out every so often) or take some extreme measure to keep the inevitable fires from reaching g their neighborhoods.
>>2799100Probably, here it is generally accepted that if you live in the scarp or southwest forests you take responsibility, while if you live in the suburbs you accept that you have to drive out to "untamed land" and the natural bushland in the metro area is maintained by local councils to minimise chance of fire getting too out of hand. We have suburban bushfires a couple of times a year, and they are generally manageable by authorities.Mind you I'm now seeing reports on how the hydrants in LA were empty and shit like that, so it seems like they have more systemic failures than just not cutting back bush.>>2799099>>2799089 might be GPT but >>2799097 is just me and my tism.
>>2799018Coastal SoCal is not a desert. try again
>>2799036>Poor forest managementThis wasnt a "forest" fire...these are urban fires. These fires have nothing to with forest management. >intentional mishandling of forest managementlol. even more retarded but see above>PG&E making record profitslol. PG&E doesnt operate in SoCal but nice tryThese fires are a direct result of 3 very wet winters (2nd wettest 2yrs on record) followed by record dryness this season (only .14inches of rain in LA since May) combined with an extreme wind event...no forest management would change these factors
>>2799030This is what I was just telling someone. Global warming is a hoax created so that we may be dominated.
>>2799139>Global warming is a hoaxso the planet isnt getting warmer?
climate change aint making it easier that's for sure. but humans will make do once they settle down wherever. survive, not thrive, but regardless.
>>2799030>>2799139>>2799145the planet is getting COLDER
>>2799151No see they changed from global warming to "climate change" already you are behind the times. See- why would you call the thing something that can be wrong... when you could just call it a thing that is a metaphysical certainty kek. No matter what happens the climate will change.
>>2799110>its only semi aridits pretty close
>>2799210>forest management>desertpick one
>>2799213socal "forest" is like a neo-vagina
>>2799018>Chaparral = desert bruv
>>2799217close enoughvery dry climate
