Inb4 schizoids tell me to pay for an ad. I just want to get natural fiber clothing that isn't going to give me PFAS-linked cancers a decade from now.
>>2799260buy second hand jackets, they are too expensive newyoull also be more likely to get something you like just because youll actually see it and select it and then try it on before you buy it
>>2799260>Run off the mill wool jacket>500 dollarinosNo. If you're willing to spend large amounts for natural materials check Icebreaker, at least that's technical kit.
>>2799260Who? QRD
>>2799260As far as mackinaw cruisers go these one seem well built and normally priced for what they are. So yeah, it will work fine but not quite as well as the same fabric in more modern cuts.>>2799289Icebreaker makes base and mid layers. This is a top layer. Also icebreaker uses superwash (plastic-coated) wool.
>>2799306Icebreaker does make top layers. >Also icebreaker uses superwash (plastic-coated) wool.Good luck finding untreated wool. You can't eliminate your exposure to plastics, only reduce it. >Normally pricedLmao. >but not quite as well as the same fabric in more modern cutsThe cut is fine, it's too heavy a garment for hiking or any high intensity activity.
>>2799308Don't be poor.
>>2799308>Icebreaker does make top layers.Huh.>Shell: 100% Cotton/ Filling: 80% Merino Wool, 20% Pla/Polylactide/ Lining: 100% TENCEL™ Lyocell/ Exclusive of Decoration And Elastic.Yeah, that's not actually bad. Doesn't have the water resistance of proper wool though.>Good luck finding untreated wool.I already have. >Normally pricedProper wool (dense and heavy) as you want for outerwear is expensive. Of course many of those garments are overpriced, but 365$ is squarely in the range of what you can expect to pay for quality.>The cut is fineButtons are outdated tech for jackets.>it's too heavy a garment for hiking or any high intensity activityIt's for cold weather anon.
>>2799309I actually use my garments, which I don't think you do if you believe such a jacket is useful to anyone but a stroller or a skier, or if you're willing to spend premium technical gear prices on a garment of dubious usefulness.
>>2799312I can see a cotton and wool water repellent windbreaker in two colors for 280 eurinos and a wool softshell-like top for 650 on their website. >I already have. Link? >Buttons are outdatedLMFAO>It's for cold weather anon.>Proper wool (dense and heavy) as you want for outerwearYou're going to sweat like a swine if you wear one of those in any serious activity short of light strolls, even in the freezing cold.
>>2799313No shit, wool isn't suitable for an ultralight thru-hike. That's not the be all end all of outdoor activities though.
>>2799316No, chief. I'm not talking of ultralight "thru-hikes". Have you never been on a chain similar to the Alps? First layer and winbreaker, at most a string vest under the former, even in the frost. That's it. I think skiers used to use jackets like those american mackinaws or however that's spelled but that's another pair of shoes.
>>2799315>cotton and wool water repellent windbreakerIf that material combo is water repellent, it's not because of anything natural.>Link?https://uk.dilling.com/>You're going to sweat like a swineFunny how outdoorsmen and soldiers of the past did just fine in those garments.
>>2799318>First layer and winbreakerForgot to say, you can put on a very light jumper under the top layer if it's really cold but not much more. You'll also need something for when you stop if it's cold, like a down jacket.
>>2799319Yes, it does have some DWR treatment of course. >Funny howNo, lmao. Don't look at most of what the army does, it's usually crappier. Besides, mountain troops always wore sportswear.
>>2799313Again, don't be poor. >captcha BASEDSD k e k
>>2799342Usually people that blabber about poverty are the poor ones themselves.
pretty hilarious video on those down $750-$1000 fjallraven parkas. I'm pretty sure he lives in NYC and films there, so watching a city-dweller try and justify a jacket suited to constant sub-zero temps is pretty hilarious. it reminds me of the kids who move to a place that gets snow during the summer and immediately buy a Canada Goose jacket. the concept of layering is really lost on a lot of people. now, I like that the guy has passion, but he's a knucklehead on some things, and that video is funny watchings as someone who recently passed on buying that same polar jacket for $300.
>>2799548Marketing is about selling the idea, what we see is the predictable outcome. Many of the people in any marketable activity are there because they were sold the idea the activity has a value rather than having built an organic interest in it. This is the same cancer that allows cockroaches to take natural wonders, quarter them and sell them at for chump money. No point in being angry about it, I'm planning some nice experiences this year, hopefully it's the same for you. Besides, I'm confident this will be rectified more sooner than later.
>>2799306>Also icebreaker uses superwash (plastic-coated) wool.Source on this? I've heard it claimed that "Total Easy Care" is basically coating the wool in plastic, but I haven't been able to determine whether it's actually true.
>>2800395Yes, it's true. Google it. If it goes in the washing machine, it's most likely superwash. Normal wool is hand wash or dry clean only, which you can probably still wash by hand.
>>2799260It's not out approved. This goes the same for the Mr cut boots in half guy that shits up YouTube with his opinion. Both these faggots are yuppies. They can break down the little details of a garment but they can't give you the big picture.The best example I can give you is Mr boot cut in half man flower anvil or something reviews mostly 6 pound logger boots that the other redditers on goodyearwelt like to jerk off to all day but doesn't even wear welted boots. He said in his hunting video that he wears some shitty off the rack keens, which is a boot company that went downhill a long time ago. It's basically a more mature unboxing therapy. These are the same issues people have with rtings. It can measure head pressure and other stupid shit but it won't tell you if it's durable or sounds good.Pic related to show you op is a matching.If I had to go all natural in terms of durability and functionality It'd probably go like this.>base layerWoolnet or even cotton net shirt. If I wanted to go cheaper and more functional then a hemp cotton blend shirt.>midlayerI think stanfields 80/20 wool blend shirts are some of the best wool sweater applications out there. Most wool sweaters are so dense they end up heavy and not doing enough to trap air. I'm gonna take a knock here at the Austrian dachstein sweaters as they as heavy as a Chevy and yet also are made to be tight fitting. It's counter intuitive.
>>2800515My guy you can't just post pictures of you evading a ban lmao.
>>2800515>outer layerThis is the hardest to escape from. I think it matters the least because it's least likely to touch your skin but if I had to choose something I'd want to stay away from cotton not just because cotton kills but it's almost always too bulky. I'd probably get a swanndri and bathe that shit in lanolin to make it as water resistant as possible but still breathable. I know the inner shirt in those is 50 poly but you can just cut it out. The original swannis were one size fits all 3/4 length sleeve shirts that he just boiled the shit out of and then coated with lanolin. Even if they are Chinese sewn now the fabric is still made in new zealand where the weather is chaotic there.>polyester vs woolI still think when you compare the two that polyester is often cheaper, lighter, more durable, so ultimately more efficient. I do believe wool breathes a bit better so has a wider range of comfortable temperatures. You can get around this with stuff like pit zips or just shedding a layer. But I'd say even wool producers in sheep heavy countries like new zealand and Australia have migrated to fleece. Albeit ironically new zealands fleece alternative to swanndri called swazi doesn't use pit zips so it fails the breathe test.>plastic free woolOnly way to tell is if the washing instructions say dry clean or hand wash cold only no dryer. Only exception to this rule would be felted wool as it was already a fabric thrown in high heat to shrink it. But I'd say even a swanndri can shrink at least 10%
>>2800517Eat a cock. They can just delete it again and fill this board with more garbage second hand reddit feedings. I spent the time to effort post at 5 am from my gay phone. Boards gone to the dogs already anyways.
