What is the best training I can do at home or the gym to make it easier and more enjoyable to hike, ski and climb in the mountains and to to prevent injuries, boost performance when doing outdoor activities?Please don't cite some men's health article, reddit or some PT bullshit. Only personal experience on how training affected your enjoyment of the outdoors.
erm… perhaps by like…walking up mountains
>>2799369So you're telling me?
>>2799369Sure, I do that once a week if I can. Its just not practical in when its dark 18 hours a day and you live 2 hours away or there is fresh powder snow on the rocks.Should I add running once a week?I've heard training the glutes and hamstrings makes gaining elevation up mountains easier.
Try losing some weight. You don't want to be all flabby like those guys.
>>2799367Is there some actual training reason to do this or are they just playing with each other's butts?
>>2799369Shit advice. Everyone knows it’s simply too impractical for the vast majority of people, as most people would have to drive to a mountain. There’s also the time constraint of winter au light, as someone pointed out. Even during DST you limited to maybe 4 hours max if you happen to live near a trail.
>>2799367Run.
>>2799367weighted lunges pistol squatshiking
>>2799367If you need training to enjoy the outdoors, I've got news for you buddy...Anyways, it's one of those "to fight like you train, train like you fight" situations. Going out more is th best training. I've attempted a few ways of training in addition to that in order to prepare for long-distance hikes, and none of them have made a difference. So here's what you shouldn't bother doing:>weight liftingUnless you're to weak to put on your pack without help, I guess.>Farmer's walkYou'd think carrying weight and just walking back and forth would train your core, right? Well, it doesn't. The thumbs fail first.>walking up and down the stairs with a ruck onThis does actually help a little, but to get results with reasonable numbers of reps, you need to carry extreme weights. So unless you own a good milspec pack that can carry 50-100kg, you're going to break your gear this way. If you want to try, I've been using an alice frame that I ratchetstrapped gripper plates too.One thing that does help a little are calf stretches. But that's probably due to me being used to walking from the ankle joint, which means that my calves are the first muscles to fail (after 30km with a pack, or 50 km without, so well into rucking competition areas).The only training I've found to really help was shopping for groceries with a ruck. Basically, I was in a country that didn't accept my drivers license and had shitty public transport, so I'd haul my groceries for the week in an old Alice pack (that I upgraded because the waist belt could really use some improvement).But even then, improvements from 2h rucking per week were marginal compared to just doing a 8-10h hike every weekend.
Max out on push ups and pull ups at least 3 times a week.You need to do a moderate to hard cardio workout that lasts 30 minutes three times a week. I like the mountain climber machines more than elliptical trainers and elliptical trainers more than treadmills. You can do pushups , pullups and run outside when the weather is nice also. Add in any exercise you enjoy doing. Iron weights, machines whatever. The key is to do something multiple times every week.
>>2799367>What is the best training I can do at home or the gym to make it easier and more enjoyable to hike, ski and climb in the mountains and to to prevent injuries, boost performance when doing outdoor activities?stairmaster.some strength training focusing on full body/functional strength.
>>2799367Pull ups in all grips to failure, push ups in various styles to failure, running and sprinting. You don't need anything else. Of course, hiking in itself is an exercise.
It’s probably more important to have decent cardio training and to have a central nervous system that’s used to being stressed. People don’t “overdo it” their first time in a gym, they just have a cns that’s not used to training. The same goes for hiking. Cardio is obvious. Also foot conditioning, specifically building calluses, is pretty important.
>>2799466>Also foot conditioning, specifically building calluses, is pretty important.Disagree, I have no callus and relatively soft skin but never get blisters. Double wool socks and high quality footwear that fits.
>>2799376>>2799416How is it impractical? If your local mountains aren't big enough, just go up and down a few times. Use a headlamp if it's dark.
>>2799367start running. run consistently until you can do a 30min 5k comfortably. deep squats, pistols, lunges etc will help with ankle mobility in case of missteps while on a trail. plyometrics would be great for this too if you dont have equipment/access to a gym. deadlifts and good mornings for carrying dat sack. your back is so important and so many injuries can be prevented from simply stretching and strengthening your lower back even slightly.
>>2799367>What is the best training I can do at home or the gymLiterally walking, thats it, you dont need to run, you dont need to sprint because hiking and mountaineering is not a fucking foot race, its a marathon. Just go and walk and go up stairs over and over, thats it, thats all you need to do anon. Maybe get like a weight vest if you wanna be autistic but thats it.
>>2799515Time. It’s already been stated multiple times. >ill do something for an hour every day>that will surely prepare me for doing the same thing for 10 hours for multiple days
>>2799509Blisters are the number one issue facing hikers. >but my personal anecdote!Don’t care.
>>2799567blisters have been solved for a whiledon't wear boots and get darn tough socks, you'll never get another blister until you start doing 30+ mile days in the desert
>>2799367Hi I live in the mountainswe don't train to do stuff outside, we just go do it.you might want to spend a week getting used to the elevation though. That'll fuck with you if you try to rush it.
>>2799396kurwa, bober
>>2799396BASTARD BLODYU BLOODY BASTARD BITCH!!
>>2799567Blisters are the number one issue facing incompetent hikers. Use a proper tone if you want to have a conversation.
>>2799367Idk why people suggest all this body building stuffThrow your pack on with some weight and walk a few miles on a treadmill with an incline.
>>2799567Lol terrible post
>>2799647you have never hiked further than 3 miles
>>2799396bro why is he touching the rat like that
>>2799662They are very soft. The softest thing you will ever touch. It's addicting to pet marmots.
>>2799639Yes. I don’t get blisters because I hike often, my shoes are worn in, and I wear the appropriate socks. I’m one person; I’m not most people.
>>2799567Agreed. Thinking someone with vagina-soft feet can go from the couch to a 10 mile hike just because they’re wearing the right socks is pants on head retarded. Stating it openly is semen in anus gay.
Are you insane for people telling to hit the gym like crazy for hiking ? All you have to do is walk and have a pretty low weight backpack, so doing that for some time will do all the workout. Walk all day long without a problem and you're good, if it's uncomfortable your health isn't good enough or the backpack is too heavy for long distances.
>>2799709>just do the exact same activity you're training for at low intensityAre you from 1920? There's a reason every athlete lifts weights, runs, and sprints now.
>>2799716Buying a gym membership is one. Your whole muscle mentality in the US is flawed by an unhealthy diet and lifestyle. It's not exclusively extra muscle you need for hiking, but a regime for weight loss. Then you can walk all day in urban areas or innawoods with only a good sandwich at your side a day. And stop taking your car for a minute, if every move you do is motorized, you became motorized in the head.
>>2799716>Lift weightNot a requirement. Body weight exercises are enough. Amerimutt californian body building culture ruined the amerimutt's idea of fitness and as all of the horseshit that's born there they quickly tried to export it. You don't need to spend a dime: push ups, pull ups and running.
>>2799558>bro just le HECKIN walk up and down a flight of stairs for 12 hours a day
>>2799367
>>2799787If you're also carrying various bags of e.g. groceries and random boxes of heavy stuff using different carrying techniques, then yes absolutely, that would be all you'd ever need to stay in shape.
>>2799376stairmaster slow and add weight overtime. and just walk with weight around the neighborhood . hike when you can
>>2799367practicing barbell lifts for a few months was a game changer for me
>>2799396He's being awfully rude touching those marmots without consent.
>>2799509It's not just about not getting blisters. You can condition your feet to the point that 30 miles feels like nothing.
>>2799566This is why I think most people itt are just talking out of their asses. Walking to the grocery store a few times a week or taking a stroll in the neighborhood in the afternoon isn’t going to do much to prepare you for an extended, several-days-long hike while carrying a pack in mountainous terrain. I guess that would prepare you for a day hike or something.
>>2799706Anyone can walk ten miles in sandals. You have to be injured or obese to not be able to.
>>2800399Bullshit.I ran a backpacking MeetUp group that hovered around 120 members. 10 miles is the limit for most people.
>>2800399>injured or obeseThat describes the vast majority of people in the west. Even if you avoid the fatness and traumatic injury, decades of sitting at desks/couches 12-18 hours a day fucks so much shit up it takes focused effort to undo.
