I'll be spending a week in Vermont this September or October.Give me the best spots and trails to hit up, I will not be paying for a hotel. Thinking about hitting Green Mountain National Forest and Lake Willoughby at least, thinking about Smuggler's Notch and Mount Mansfield as well.t. am a leafcuck
Why plan so far in advance?
>>2800226It's a work trip.
>>2800239Everything in VT is easy to get to. Smugglers Notch is awesome. There's infinity trails but IMO there one trail and that's the Long Trail in VT. Just hike that. Rutland I used to love cause it was gritty I heard it's sad and fenty now. Since you don't want to spend $ or a hotel don't bother with Woodstock.Stowe is the nicest, podshest resort town by far.
>>2800246Thanks, I was considering the Long Trail, good to know about Rutland and Stowe.I'm mostly against spending money on tourist trap resorts when I could just camp in the beauty of a state I've never visited before. Aiming to hit up a few local breweries and whatnot though (will also be happy to take any recommendations on places to grab a bite or drink worth stopping for).
The whole state is basically just a series of remote unmaintained trailheads and free camp sites with bullet holes in any nearby signs that haven't fallen down yet. It's basically paradise. You definitely don't need to plan anything in advance, you will find what you're looking for.
>>2800567I'm skeptical of anything on the East Coast given the population density and proximity to urban areas. If you think the national parks on the West Coast are busy, you'll be horrified by an average outing in the bughive.
>>2800571Northern New England and upstate NY are virtually uninhabited. Every time you people say "population density" you're just demonstrating that you don't have the ability to use Google Earth. Not to mention that dense forest cover multiplies the privacy factor of every square mile of land by a factor of 10 or more.
Is there any spot that makes it worth hitting up the southern side at all? So far from what I've seen, Lake Willoughby, Smuggler's Notch/Mansfield, and the Green Mountain forest have sounded the most enticing and are in the northern half and I haven't really seen anything worth it to head south of that.
>>2800604Lol. The Bennington triangle has been the site of my favorite outdoor adventures over 20 years. We're all better off with flatlanders like you staying out though.
>>2800604I literally have no idea if this is south or north - but when I was 6 years old I hiked up Welch with my dad and we go to welch and it was the first time either of us had been to alpine terrain, and it basically looked like you had to steeply descent a mountain to go any further and get to Dickey, so we just turned around at that point. Apparently parking costs 5$ but I think it's worth it.
>>2800571>given the population density
>>2800676I actually think northern Maine and the Adirondacks are the two easiest places to get lost and die in the wilderness in the lower 48.
>>2800721>larpers unironically believe this
>>2800143Come down to Windsor. You can come to Harpoon Brewery. It's super comfy and within a few miles of several trails and a boat launch. Very much recommended.
I was recommended Hill Farmstead Brewery too. Will aim to check out at least one brew pub a day and then fuck off to the wild.As a Cancuck, I intend to just roll up to a general area and explore until I find a good place near water to pitch a tent. Obviously as long as I'm not on private land, I assume no one will give a fuck? Don't mind pitching at a state park-ing lot here and there if fees are reasonable, but not trying to be pitching a few metres away from screwing families.Will have my car as well so not opposed to parking nearby, but definitely would like to wander a few hours into a forest.
>>2801286> Obviously as long as I'm not on private land, I assume no one will give a fuck? Don't mind pitching at a state park-ing Vermont law is super friendly to sportsmen. Just look for the yellow posters before you go on someone's land. If they have the yellow posters, that means it's trespassing.You can go on someone's land as long as they don't a sign indicating otherwise. If they ask you to leave, obviously you have to respect that, so it's probably better to stealth camp in that case.
>>2801286Personally prefer Lawson's over Hill Farmstead if you're planning to eat, but it's in the Mad River valley, still near the long trail though
>>2800143Tf is that sign?
>>2803082girls be dressed like that standing in the middle of the road during foliage season in Vermont to get the perfect pic
>>2803098Wat.
>>2803042Good to know, thanks anon. I'll be hoping to do some primitive camping in national forests/state parks away from campgrounds predominantly I think.>>2803067Noted, thanks. I had someone recommend me to check out the river as well, and will likely hit up the area on my way in or out from the national forest.>>2803123picrel, npc behaviour
>>2800246Woodstock is awesome as an outist. It’s expensive but if you stay in the hills and woods it’s beautiful. Bring a tent Canuck and go to Calander Hill in South Woodstock. There’s injun stone chambers that are kinda rad. As for Rutland it is very fenty so is Burlington and all of Chittenden county, but there’s plenty of good nature if you go 20 minutes out of the center of town.
>>2800604Central Vermont is cool, I went to college in Northfield VT and loved it. Drive along the dog river/winooski and you’ll inevitably find a good chill out spot. Got a lot of spirit too, the people outside of Montpelier seem to be less retarded and liberal than their Burlington counterparts
>>2803297Wow thanks anon, that's neat as hell, exactly the kind of stuff I'm hoping to come across. Definitely adding to my list. I do keep hearing that Rutland, Bennington, and parts of Burlington are fenty territory, I probably won't spend much time in the towns proper aside from grabbing a drink or a meal here and there.>>2803298Noted, I was thinking of swinging through Northfield if I hit up Montpelier (I like history so was hoping to spend an hour or two in a museum). Looks like there's some good spots directly south of Northfield so I'll probably take the 12A down.
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>>2803469The museum is mid, but the college is really cool! Most of the students are pretty based and not too retarded. Hit up GOODMEASURE brewery it’s a personal favorite. If you want a decent swimming hole go to Norwich University park at D lot walk across the train tracks until you hit the river go left and you can find a good fishing area/swimming area. Inversely on the opposite side theirs cool mountains (pic related) where there’s plenty of places to stealth camp. Use satellite or topo maps and you can find a few abandoned quarries (where this pic was taken) they’re well drained so you’ll find some cool shit. Also spent a few weeks there after I graduated and was homeless just make sure you’re well enough off the tails and you can get as stoned and as drunk as possible. Also be sure to overturn rocks and shit near fire pits. Students often leave liquor/weed since the college has a zero tolerance policy (how I funded my alcoholism and weed addiction in college)Name a town and I can help brotha, used to be a truck driver so I’ve got the state locked down for locations to chill.
>>2803554Thanks anon :) I like exploring a good quarry so I'll be sure to check some outI figure on my way out of the south (to be determined how south I go in VT), I'll be heading through Woodstock and onwards to camp around Lake Willoughby. Hoping to crash on one of the mountains overlooking the lake. Any cool spots along the way would be appreciated
its weird how if you mention the ne or europe or the west coast everyone is super helpful but if you try to talk about the mid atlantic or southeast, everyone completely clams up
>>2804445I wish there could be similar help on finding locations in say, Texas. Would be really embarrassing for Vermont to have more /out/ spots than my state. There’s gotta be more besides the tiny national forests, grasslands, Big Bend, and overpriced state parks right?
>>2804445Probably because most land owners will straight up shoot you in the south. It also helps that Europe has Right to Roam, most of the midwest/west coast is federal/state public land, and the NE is largely public land via state or logging companies
>>2803152Is this really something people do?
>>2800727>500 square miles of thisnooo, you couldn't possibly get lost here
>>2804540Yes, white women are odd creatures
>>2804540The white woman urge to pose for a social media pic in front of a blind turn
>>2800619the only people that use the term flatlander in Vermont are people that moved here within the last 5 years its the most cringe shit everwe never made a big deal out of 'maple creemees' either and now all you reddit faggots pretend like that is a thing too
Go drive around Mt Washington in NHPresidential range is more impressive than anything in VermontYou can drive up it or hike up it (not really an easy hike though)They close the road sometime around there though so you have to check Burlington is a fucking shithole these dayssaddest shit everwas the most amazing town to live in ever 20 years ago the gaps are cool, appalachian gap, lincoln gap, etc.
>>2803469Rutland is a shithole but a cozy shithole if you live hereBennington is mehBurlington is a fucking travestyits not super bad but compares to what it was like 20 years ago just gives me such a bad vibe I cant stand being thereBasically all towns in Vermont over 2000 population are either rich liberals that cater to tourists, or opiod shitholes
Im Black. Can I go to Vermont?
>>2806362According to the democrat party, you're not smart enough to get a driver's license. So going to Vermont is unlikely for you as driving or buying a plane train or bus ticket requires ID.
>>2806351No offense, but rutland is just a shitholeVermont has a lot of towns with sticks so far up their ass its unreal, and towns where theres no money from out of state.Burlington is an absolute failure of govtRutland is the worst of the last 50 years of american development but all on one corridor cuz its in a valley. I hate woodstock so much. So many cars from out of state crawling 9 miles an hour below the speed limit that need to just be put down. Stowe area and much of 100 corridor just out of state money and out of state fucktards that need to be put down.Most of the rest of the state is largely just poor people trying to make it, but thank god we get to live here rather than anywhere else.Coyote and squirrel hunting is legal all year round, so unless land is posted you can walk around anywhere during the day. Not at night. This is also a law of the land type thing; honestly i would try and avoid private property. You may think you are just innocent and shouldnt be bothered, but if I come across a person and a tent in my woods im gonna shut that shit down as effectively as I can. App gap, vt 17, lincoln gap and 125 have more soul than the notch. Middlebury sucks. Just stick to the national forest. Hit bars or breweries, hill farmstead will be good im sure but its stick up the ass territory. Dont idolize any of it.A lot of Vermont sucks, ruined in the last 10 years, so dont be afraid to change plans if your experience is feeling overpriced and canned as hell.Dont drive slow. And if we pass you on the double yellow, its legal here so dont get pissed. And definitely dont camp on my land.
Green river resevoir is good, willoughby is good, i like east of the greens more than the west generally and farther south more than farther north generally, but its a little hard to explain where the good shit is. The guy advocating for norwich area sounds like kinda a shithead but i like that area. I worked all over the state doing solar shit for a few years.
>>2800143>t. grew up in VermontLiterally go anywhere, do whatever. You don't even have to worry about being killed by minorities. Its the second safest state in the country, it's beautiful, it's easy to get around. Just hit trails and check out the old New England towns. Check out Smugglers Notch.
>>2800604Everything around the borders of NH and Vermont is utter kino. Both are incredible states
>>2804542Follow the trail, cityslicker.
>>2806430Okay larper!
Vermont kino:St. JohnsburyBarre RutlandSpringfield/Claremont Nh Brattleboro
>>2806398This man speaks the truth>>2806438Bro really said fkn Barre. I live in Barre, stay the fuck away unless you are here for drugs. There's absolutely zero nature here compared to other places. You'd be better off in Warren or something. Anywhere with a dirt road. Barre is a complete shithole. My grandma calls it "the armpit of Vermont" honestly more like "the festering injection site of Vermont"The only place worse than Barre is Burlington. That "Defund the police" thing absolutely RUINED that town.The people here are the worst in the state. Go literally anywhere else avoid Barre.Each town is small an insular so each will have it's own culture. Stowe is all tourist/rich people. Hardwick is all cousin fuckers. Barre is all drug addicts. Montpelier is all activists. Warren is all snow bums. Pick your poison is what I'd say. If you dont like the people in the area, just move 1 town over. Barre -> Montpelier is 1 town of difference but approx 1/100th as sketchy. If you want my PERSONAL best spot: Hunger Mountain and Putnam State Forest. That's where you wanna be. You cant get lost there (hemmed in by roads) but it's completely empty aside from the trails. No rangers or anything. The saddles between Hunger, Worcester and White Rock are really cool to explore. Come at it from the EAST.(The hike is about 1000 times as cool) I like going up Hunger saddling over to White Rock and then coming down that way (they have the same trailhead)I will say in terms of popular hikes Sterling Pond is probably one of the coolest. There is a stocked trout pond at the end of the hike (go counter clockwise, trust me) As everyone said though: You can just go anywhere, even off trail. My favorite is fishing brookies up into the headwaters.You CANNOT get lost in Vermont. Follow the river and you will ALWAYS hit a town. Alternatively go East/West (you will hit a road)Source: Have lived in central VT my entire life and Barre for the last 2.5 years.
>>2806398>You may think you are just innocent and shouldnt be bothered, but if I come across a person and a tent in my woods im gonna shut that shit down as effectively as I can.Honestly camping on someone's land in VT without permission is a good way to get a gun in your face or just shot at. (I'm not about to walk up to a random tent in my woods without a firearm)>>2800143If you're not from here: Just go to a state forest and stay the hell off people's land without permission. Even if you ARE from VT it's not cool but at least you arent a flatlander on top of it....Also Camels Hump > Mansfield easily.
>>2804573>>2804576Can a normie explain to an autist like me why they do that?
>>2808265It's an aesthetic thing.
>>2800727Well the army rangers do survival training in Maine for a reason
Honestly, I intend to largely avoid the cities and towns aside from passing by local breweries or maybe checking out a museum or historical site or two. Just briefly glancing, I was struggling to find anything worth doing in Burlington/Bennington/Brattleboro.I was intending to largely do primitive camping in state forests, and maybe a state park worst case but trying to avoid camping beside screaming families.>>2808244Good to know about Hunger, I was thinking about setting up camp in Putnam one night anyways. Sterling as well, wanted to check out Smuggler's Notch but haven't looked too much into specific spots yet, so looks like a good spot to hit the trail.>>2808245>Camels Hump > MansfieldInteresting, I was considering Camel's Hump one day and Mansfield on my way out, is Mansfield worth it or just much of the same?
>>2808782>is Mansfield worth it or just much of the same?It's worth it if you have time for both but if you only have time for one just hit Camel's Hump. The Monroe trail is the most popular.> I was thinking about setting up camp in Putnam one night anywaysIf you have the ability going from Worcester Mountain -> Hunger is an good overnighter. The two trailheads are like 9 miles apart but if you can get a ride that's the one to do out there imo. Camping on Hogback is peak.You can just setup in the woods but be careful: Landslides expose cliffs on the steep spots.The saddle between Hunger and Whiterock is cool. It has a micro climate, I've seen clouds floating down the trail in broad daylight at 72°F. >aside from passing by local breweriesThere are some brewery tours which will drive you to like a dozen breweries. I've never been on one myself but apparently they're pretty awesome. > I was struggling to find anything worth doing in Burlington/Bennington/Brattleboro.Stay right the fuck away from Burlington (Chittenden and Addison counties in general) and avoid southern Vermont entirely. That's my advice. >museum or historical site or twoI mean the Vermont History Museum in Montpelier has to be #1 then.Shelburne Museum should be on the list too, it's easily one of the coolest museums here (has one of just two remaining sidewheel passenger steamers IN THE WORLD: the Ticonderoga which you can walk all over, the other is in San Francisco). Fairbanks as well is a great museum, it's a collection of artifacts from all over the world. Montshire deserves a mention too that one is more of a science museum but I couldnt leave it off the list since I have so many fond memories there as a kid.Dont go to the Burlington Echo Center. It's lame.>maybe a state park... beside screaming families.Not in October there wont be. That's a summer thing here typically. Might be soooome people but I doubt it would be very busy.
>>2808805I wanna add: Shelburne Museum is a 45 acre outdoor complex and closes October 26th.
So one place you want to look around in, if you are in the state in September is seen near these landmark stones.The one that looks like the triangle is the "Capstone" of an old treasure map from when the Spanish, and French were here in 1606/7.They were tapping the gold and silver rich hills of the valley called Smuggler's NotchIn this pic>>2806427 you can see the large diamond shaped boulder in the middle which has a flat face on the front, and a large letter "L" carved inside of a notch in the slab.....meaning walk past that stone, past the "King Rock" with a metal plaque on it (fell from the cliff in 2004) and then take a left uphill to the base of the cliff. That is the "Gold Bug" Trail that was spoken about in Edgar Allen's poem with that name.There are a lot of bent over trees that were tied down to appear like elephant trunks and one has a blaze on it that looks like a man staring at you when you sit on it, in the same fashion it is seen in his lithograph in the book.Head up to where the trail moves to the base of the cliff and through the trees to the right, and when you come out of the woods, there is a large sword carved into the wall of the cliff, over 40' tall, in an altar, along with a knight's shield, and guardian knight overlooking the climb to a second pitch.From there I would walk down the staircase of rocks and look around, as it is all basically gold and silver rich stone broken down all around you, and some even on the climb up.Its a massive discovery seen on FB/SecretMission4KingI'm the guy that found it and took the Historical Preservation Society's Archaeologist to one of the stone map sites on the waterfront that is seen in this video short I made.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAnuAN3CX_U
>mount manletsfieldthere are no good spots in vermont, OP
>>2808350Yeah, because they're lame.
