Is Damascus Steel better for knives that you're going to use for /out/?Is it a requirement?
>>2800972A knife isn't even a requirement to go /out/, stopped carrying one a decade ago
>>2800972And when I said put another knife thread in the catalogue I was being sarcastic you fuckwit
>>2800972Collecting knives is cringe. Knife guys are cringe.
>>2800972Yes, you need a $300 knife to baton wood. It's expensive but it shows others that you really know what you're doing.
>>2801013What about wear n tear
>>2801014A fact of life.
>>2801013He should also invest in a high quality baton, which will probably run him close to $500.
Damascus steel does not exist. It's a marketing term to describe a purely cosmetic finish. To a lesser extent it can describe pattern welding techniques used by some custom knife makers which tells us nothing about the steels actually used, have nothing to do with the historical Damascus steel, and has no advantage whatsoever over modern heat treatment methods. Damascus is literally a gimmick to get money out of people who know nothing about knives or steel.
>>2800973Nothing is required when you're just walking down a trail and staying at established camp sites and living off prepared foods or going into towns for supplies.
>>2801070Okay tough guy what do you use your knife for.
>>2801097Building a camp, preparing firewood, improvising tools and weapons, processing game and fish, self-defense, basically everything that there is to be done.
>>2801100So LARPing?
>>2801101I like to practice skillsets. I don't go hiking just to be out in nature. I grew up in the country and have always been surrounded by nature. Going on a backpacking trip just to look at trees and scenic views has no appeal to me. I go out in the woods to practice survival skills and primitive technology. I don't stay on trails.
>>2800972Could you actually baton with one of these?
>>2801101Yes. If you’re bringing tools, why not bring the right tools? Splitting firewood with a knife is fucking dumb when saws exist.
>>2801314Using the right tool for job is what you do at work. In wilderness survival we bring the lightest and most versatile tool and then use the right SKILL for the job.
>>2801314And splitting wood with a saw isn't a thing, I regret to inform you.
>>2801322Why do you need to split wood when you can just cut it into adequately sized pieces with a folding saw
>>2801321>In wilderness survival we bring the lightest and most versatile tool and then use the right SKILL for the job.Well done anon, this sentence made me physically cringe lol
>>2801352Feel free to carry 80 pounds of tools everywhere if you think that is the superior strategy.
>>2801347Because you need wood of very specific diameter to ignite in the early stages of firemaking, and in wet conditions you may only find dry wood on the inside of dead trees and branches 6+ inches in diameter, and you may need to split wood to improvise various tools, and countless other reasons that should be self evident to anyone who has even the vaguest passing interest in wilderness survival skills. But hey, that one time when you were a kid you and your buddy started a fire with sticks off the ground and that's your only frame of reference for this sort of thing so you're all set.
>>2801373I was cringing at how you said that, not the content I don't bushlarp so I don't carry any tools, I just wanted to congratulate you on a great achievement
>>2800984I'll stab you
>>2801104You ain't doing shit
>>2801386Ah, you just walk around. Good for you, have fun.
>>2800972Does this even make any kind of difference?
>>2800972Thays a kitchen knife buddy
>>2800972chef heremodern Damascus finished knives don't tarnish like normal high carbon steel because the chemical dip they're given to bring out the pattern acts like a patina protecting the metalso yes it is helpful but you can get the same help from a parkerized (pic related) or any other type of anodized coating and probably pay less
>>2801709oh and blue steel toobluing steel is easy and cheap you can do it yourself and it looks killer
>>2801710Is this feasible to do in your garage with a couple hundred dollars?
>>2800972>Is Damascus Steel better for knives that you're going to use for /out/?No, it's worse. Damascus steel, tamahagane, foz and all other folded steels are a historic way to deal with low quality steel. You basically knead the metal until all components (especially carbon) are evenly spread, so it won't crack as easily during tempering.Since some German engineer figured out that blowing oxygen into molten steel could control carbon content almost 200 years ago, that stopped being necessary. Nowadays, perfect folded steels and cheap, off the mill steels are equal, and the moment there's even a minor error in one of the folded steel's welds, it becomes inferior.Laminated steel is a different matter though. In that, soft and hard steels are welded in such a way that only the edge of the blade turns hard during tempering, which allows for much harder edges than using just one kind of steel. The temperline (hamon, if you're a weeb) that's created that way looks similar to the patterns on damascus.>>2802076Dunno about prices elsewhere, but here in Germany at least, enough blueing solution for an assault rifle (or two sporting rifles, or ~5 handguns) costs around 30€. You just need to remove th prior finish, degrease (I use isooctane, which is around 10€/l), brush on the blue, let it sit for a while, rinse off and seal (I use molten beeswax, but any wax or thick oil will do, and some people use resin so they only have to do it once).Only real issue is making sure you actually get blue blueing. Many solutions that are sold as "blueing" will give you a dark brown or almost black result. Basically what traditional rust-blueing would turn into if left in the brine for too long.
>>2801709They usually make the damascus with stainless steels for kitchen knives.
>>2800972i think /out/ knives should be cheap and disposable because you're going to trash and lose them frequently
>>2801710totally feasible more like 50-100$watch a few videos and you'll figure it out fasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGpYh-_llzE
>>2802223>>2802076
>>2802200>been out for ~20 years>use my knives for gardening and farming too, prying ivy off trees, cleaning up cuts, opening feed packages>literally never lost a knife>never damaged a knife more than a rolled tip (and that was a crappy cold steel knife that just sucked in general)>Been using the same Mora / Glock 81 combo for more than 15 years nowMaybe you should think about how you're treating your gear, anon.
>>2800972No, just carry one with a fixed blade and full tang.
