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Anons.... It is the middle of winter and there's been barely any snowfall here in the southern Carpathians. Are you also experiencing global warming? Barely any rain too.

Obviously this is just the low land but still the elevation is 700m, there aught to be some snow here at this time of year.
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lucky
there's still just enough snow and cold here to make it annoying
hiking in snow and ice fucking sucks, no interest in that, i'll trade you + supposed to get more snow next week
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>>2804232
>i'll trade you + supposed to get more snow next week
Buddy the lake has been drying up like crazy. You do not want to trade places with me, this whole region is dying.
While yes hiking in this weather is peak comfy, however it will all die if we get another two more winters of this bullshit.
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>>2804240
>it will all die
What do you mean? The mountains will still be there. Vegetation and wildlife will change when climate conditions change, but it will still be there.
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>>2804274
they dont change thatfast i reckon
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>>2804231
had like a week total of snow coverage down here in eastern europa. dont really care about global warming or climate change or what not but winters here get progressively worse every year. just 10 years ago temperatures were dropping below -30C on occasion, now you'd be lucky to see -10 even for a day, what a shame
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>>2804275
True. New species will immediately and continuously settle in. Once a new climate equilibrium is reached, change will stop.
>>2804286
>-30°C to -10°C
>a change for the worse
Personally, I'm not a fan of the cold. Snow is nice, though.
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>>2804274
>Vegetation and wildlife will change when climate conditions change, but it will still be there.
The only reason this valley is so special is the (artificial) lake and the virtually untouched forest of European maple. If climate change kicks in like this the maples will fade and it'll become gay and infested with accacias (yes they are not native and are a pain to traverse), trees of heave (we call it false vinegar tree) and shitty Douglas firs.
Also the birch is already starting to die. And I fucking love birch. Of course the forests will not go anywhere, however I will never experience this forests former splendor. My uncle used to tell me how cool this place was 20 years ago.... Outright waterfalls would drop into the lake. Nowadays the lake is literally dying too. You can practically walk 1km on mud where there used to be a lake not 5 years ago. It is really bad.

Kind of stupid to have a house on a lake if the lake is drying up. And if the valley in which it is located is also changing its makeup. These are purely selfish concerns mind you. Of course life will find a way.
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>>2804286
Do you live in Irkutsk or something? Ha ha.
Sounds like shit not gonna lie. My absolute low is -15, mind you my absolute low of being willing to spend time outdoors, camping is out of the question. Anyhow enjoy your winter anon, even if it is brutal. You can not imagine how depressing dry and snowless winters are.
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>>2804231
>unironically being a gypsy and announcing it online
Have you met that one gypsy girl hiker that makes youtube videos at least?
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>>2804304
Why care? They are just plants. What makes one plant better than another plant?
Try to find positivity in new plants and change won't feel that bad.
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>>2804320
>>unironically being a gypsy and announcing it online
I will cure you and your family with my gypsy magics

>>2804320
>Have you met that one gypsy girl hiker that makes youtube videos at least?
Honest to God I have only ever met a single woman hiking just this once. And she wasn't really hiking, she was sitting in a tractor on the mountainside in a relatively remote place. My guess is that she was going to transport some cheese from a nearby shepherd.

Anyhow I think that it is best to not get tempted by the fairer sex. Who knows how I'd react out on the wilderness? Maybe the gypsy blood is strong enough to go against my better judgement.
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>>2804358
*curse you
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>>2804339
Sure objectively speaking the specific plant life is not important. HowevER I have my own preferences and European maple is pretty rare, especially old growth forests of such maples.
I guess that I simply like the current setup way things are. A healthy mix between boars, bears and deer. Sometimes I see Wildcats too. A while back ago some otters were introduced here but they presumably got eaten or killed.

Anyhow I like the way things are now. Why would I want it to change? It is already heaven on earth.

>>2804320
And yes this is a true Gypsy's hand. Perfect for casting curses on amerilards.
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>>2804358
>Anyhow I think that it is best to not get tempted by the fairer sex. Who knows how I'd react out on the wilderness?
I see, you got some of "that" in your family tree.
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>>2804231
>travel blogposting
bruh >>>/int/extraflags
you've been missing on the travel blogposting general all along. If you have geographical autism, become the first anon in the entire history of 4chan to post the flags you take while travelling (including that where your pic is located) etc...
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>>2804361
It's fair to have preferences like that.
I think change is inevitable. In general and with climate. Can you significantly affect a certain change? In regards to climate change, probably not. In that case, I think, better make your peace with it. Like it's okay to have negative feelings about current plant and animal life changing. But also try finding something positive in the new. Don't become bitter or resentful.
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We have gotten no snow this winter in Central Wisconsin. Temps have been low enough too. Just very dry, it was like this last year but this year is record setting. Very sad, I guess I gotta go further north.

I would not call Chicago or Milwaukee winter weather cities anymore. It’s sad what we’ve lost.
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>>2805084
>We have gotten no snow this winter in Central Wisconsin.
I'm sorry to hear that burgeranon..... Climate change is a bitch and I guess that we are on a similar parallel. I also have to find a place somewhere further north, I honestly like it warmer but winter is just not the same without snow.
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>>2804361
Welcome to the real world where the enviroment is trash and people gotta eat. Now grow the fuck up and stop crying for your little eden garden
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>>2805084
Over a foot over the last couple of days here in SE Michigan.
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>>2806423
Where is that? Looks like Valea Prahovei but it can't be given the mountains.
We got snow too because of this frost, but before that there was nothing. (Teșila)
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>>2804231
The climate operates in cycles that are still poorly documented and understood because accurate records only go back 150 years tops, which is entirely within the modern warm period (started c1800). Here in Arizona we are also in a near record breaking drought and have record warmth. Pulling up historical years there are numerous 5-6 month long droughts in the last 127 years of records for this state, *most* of them preceded a record breaking wet spell (intense flooding and all time record snowfalls), the rest were average months and years after the drought broke.

A very important pattern here in AZ, is the last two times droughts were this intense in winter (our 2nd wet season, we normally see as much snow as the Austrian alps), both times came before record breaking or tying season (1972-1973 winter 500 inches of snow and 2002-2004 droughts followed by record tying 2004-2005 winter 459 inches of snow tied with 1992-1993 winter 459 inches of snow). The jetstreams seem variable during solar maximums and minimums and this year is a solar maximum. As a correlation to this, intervals between mins and maxes can be somewhat correlated.


1951-1952 (about 4th year after maximum) - average snow about 250-280 inches
1961-1962 (about 4th year after maximum) - average snow about 250-280 inches
1972-1973 winter (about 4th year after maximum) - absolute record snowfall ~500 inches
1982-1983 - no correlation, average year about 280 inches the year after was a very low year, but 1981-83 were average or slightly above
1992-1993 winter (4th year after maximum) - record tying snowfall 459 inches
2004-2005 winter (4th year after maximum) - record tying snowfall 459 inches
2019 spring and fall (4th year after maximum) - above average snowfall 336 inches


Romania seems to go through somewhat similar but not in sync cycles (2012 snow) as Arizona in relation to snow, you get some near record years about every decade. Pic related, an AZ average winter snowpack for June.
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>>2809224
God I wish anything you said was true.
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>>2809259
Just because you don't believe in reality doesn't make it less real. Everything I posted is based on actual recorded reality, from multiple sources. I also know people who were around to remember those older events,72-73 was the biggest event where snowpack didn't melt even by late August up near Big Lake, AZ the March snowdrift was measured at 50 feet in some spots between Maverick and McNary AZ. Lumber mill workers couldn't get access to areas even in July. Image related is also from 92 years ago, reliable snow record keeping goes back literally 127 years in my state. The most recent big event was Feb 22 2019 (60+ inch 48 hr storm) and 2022-2023 (372 inches). AZ has recorded 48 inches of snowfall within 24 hours 4 separate times, two officially and two unofficially.

The
1972-1973
1992-1993
2004-2005
Seasons all individually exceeded the all-time officially recorded record season snowfalls of Montana state.

Utah averages more than 600 inches of snowfall a year, the snowiest place in Colorado is *southern* Colorado. Both New Mexico and Nevada have all time records also higher than Montana, at 472 inches and 480+ inches. The normal winter jetstream lashes the four corners mountains and uplands with multiple big storm events a winter. Normally. The least coast literally gets mindbroken by this fact.
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>>2809264
Pic taken 3 days after the Feb 22 2019 storm at c4700 ft elevation.
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Wasn't too bad once you got up another 2000ft. What little snow was at lower elevations all burned off by the following afternoon.
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The snow returns (to AZ). For Euros that's 100cm in 48 hrs at 3000 m, 71cm in 48 hrs at 2070m. Still a well below average winter but more is on the way (for AZ). I told another AZ anon back in January that March would be the dumping month after the drought. This is literally a cyclical pattern that re-emerges about every decade (1-3 bad years and 1-3 good years). I predict the snow will also return to the Balkans next season. You can moderately accurately forecast weather patterns (micro-scale, IE decades rather than millennia) by studying and keeping good records from multiple locations (AZ has 1,000+ stations). Bansko, Bulgaria looks about average at the top anyway (at worst 60-75% of average).

Another interesting pattern was the Arizona super monsoon floods of 2021 matched up with the German floods, July 2021. The same jetstream that drops moisture in W NA eventually drops moisture over the east coast and Europe (after picking up more moisture over the Atlantic). Going on previous patterns this monsoon season will be average or above average.
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>>2809264
>>2809263
Look I'm happy for you anon, but i'd sooner live with Mormons in Utah than live in AZ year around
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>>2810233
1 in 10 Arizonans are mormons or ex-mormons. The Arizona transition zone is literally 90% non-hispanic white with more than 500,000 people. The transition zone contains about 70% of Arizona's forested area (30,000 sq mi) and the average elevation is about 5,000 feet (temperate climate). AZ's 2nd district is larger than Florida in land area with less than 850,000 people.
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>>2807242
Far North
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>>2805432
A single European maple tree is worth one billion nigger baby lives.
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>>2804231
i live in dinaric alps in serbia (ele ~600m) so pretty close to carpathians
this winter was harsher than the last one with lots of snow and rain (snow came in mid november)
also used 1/3 more firewood than last year, temperatures were dropping to -17°C
winter pretty much ended 2 weeks ago
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>>2812197
Jesus, I am so envious of you. We have had snow but at higher elevations, like 1500+ meters. And the coldest it has ever been here I think was -10 but only for one night. Well ..... This part of the country is lost.



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