Weird hole in the ground edition. pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Mvfh8b87New USDA zone map has been released: https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/Koppen Climate Map: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/K%C3%B6ppen_World_Map_High_Resolution.pngSearch terms:Agrarian, Agriculture, Agrology, Agronomy, Aquaculture, Aquaponics, Berkeley Method Hot Composting, Cold Frames, Companion Planting, Composting, Container Gardening, Core Gardening Method, Cultivation, Deep Water Culture (DWC), Dry Farming, Espalier, Farmer's Market, Forest Gardening, Forestry, Fungiculture, Geoponics, Greenhouses, Homesteading, Horticulture, Hot Boxes, Hügelkultur, Humanure, Hydroponic Dutch Bucket System, Hydroponics, Keyhole Garden, Korean Natural Farming, Kratky Method, Landscaping, Lasagna Gardening, Ley Farming, Market Garden, Mulching, No-till Method, Ollas Irrigation, Orchard, Permaculture, Polyculture, Polytunnels, Propagation, Rain Gutter Garden, Raised Beds, Ranch, Rooftop Gardening, Ruth Stout Garden, Sharecropping, City Slicker Composting, Shifting Cultivation, Soil-bag Gardening, Square Foot Gardening, Stale Seed Bed, Sugar Bush, Truck Farming, Vermiculture, Vertical Gardening, Window Frame Garden, Windrow Composting, Alpaca, Snail, Toad, Trumpeter, Turkey, Worm, biochar, vermicompostinglast thread: >>2826053
I think one of my chickens fell from a high place, she was walking weird and hyperventilating constantly. After 2 weeks she seems better, but she still walking funny and I can feel the femur sticking out from her pelvis. Can I expect her to get better overtime?
>>2832339You need a vet
>>2832339end her suffering
>>2832339>will bones get better over time?...No
I'm in zone 4a, first frost likely to happen in 2 to 3 months. Do I have a chance to grow anything in that time?
>>2832357duckweed if you have a pond.
>>2832357Bok choy
I am a retarded man trying to start an herb garden. I was given a handful of rectangular planters, roughly 30"x10"x8"Are there any graphs like pic related that only have herbs, and more of them? I figure I'll put 3 types in each planter grouped by water/light requirements but other than that I don't know "oh, never plant this with that like you just did" type shit. Nearly all the how to garden sites coming up when I look are all AI white women reposting unrelated plant pictures with their original watermarks on domains based in bangladesh
>>2832364>never plant this with thatThat's just a meme. You can plant anything with anything.
>pepper plant developing a flower bud after about a month and a half from seedPeople say to pinch off the first flowers, but is it really so bad to let it just grow?
>>2832370i think those guides are for avoiding plant pairings that leech the same nutrients from the soil. so sure, you can plant anything next to anything, but your soil will suffer for it.
>>2832364overthinking it massively. just plant shit and see how it goes.
>>2832444Gonna try to roll your own anon?I hate your beds just get rid of the wood and till that whole area up and make a proper garden.
Hole in the ground update. The same evening I got the grass put back, seeded the middle and covered in straw to keep the ground moist while the seed germinates.Yesterday the string trellis for one of my tomatoes broke and the plant snapped when it fell. I think the string was rubbing against a rough fence board it was tied to. Getting lots of ripe cherry tomatoes in the green house.
>>2832484noand not my house
I've never grown Sungolds before, but my single plant went bonkers and I must have picked a couple hundred from it already.
Posting again, anyone have a rec for hose fertilizers? I have this one and it's getting pretty worn out. Was hoping there was a better option before I just buy a new one of these.
>>2832579Swiss company Birchmeier makes some hose mixers for professional use if that helps you.
>>2832579>>2832581they have a dial so you can set the amount of fertiliser to water.
>>2832429But all plants use the same nutrients
Wild roses are little bastards.
>>2832658Guess I should add, the rose grew up through the stem of another plant.
>>2832577Give me all the details you possibly can regarding your growing situation, please.How you planted it, how you prune it, how many tomatoes you harvest per week, etc. Write me a whole big thing about it.I'm doing two plants in a 5 and a 10 gallon container, and I have virtually no idea of what to expect. They're still young and small, but for my zone, October will probably be the start of my harvest if all goes well. I really want to be drowning in sun golds. I want to have a bunch to snack on, a bunch to make sauce with, and a bunch to give to my friends who I love. All the accounts I read about sun gold yields seem unrealistic and incredible, though. Just give it to me straight: what's a detailed account of your experience?
>>2832660What
>>2832712The brown is the hollow stem of another plant. The wild rose grew a foot up that stem before coming out the top. I hate wild roses for the weed they are.
I’m thinking about putting some mint in my yard any tips on growing mint?
>>2832824You don't grow mint, mint grows you>in my yardYour yard is already dead
>>2832689Honestly mine is low effort and not cared for as much as it should be. I put it in the ground with an eastern exposure maybe late May and I pruned the bottom parts when it was smaller. Zone 6. I mulched with straw and water daily at the root if it hasn't rained. It's gotten some liquid fertilizer maybe once every other week. If I were doing it again I would prune it harder and trellis it better, because right now it's strung up like something out of a slasher film.>All the accounts I read about sun gold yields seem unrealistic and incredibleI believe it. I haven't really counted but I usually pick when it looks like it has a least a dozen getting ripe. I do have a Sweet 100 in the same patch that's similar size but they ripen slower and I'm getting smaller fruit. It does get slightly less sun though.I'd guess for containers just be consistent with watering and fertilizing. The plant can get BIG so your 10 gallon might do better than your 5.
>>2832428>but is it really so bad to ignore generations' worth of lived experience?Try it and let me know how it turns out.
hello anons, longtime reader, first-time poster.i planted some basil in a pot, and its grown to look very healthy and sturdy. the stems are even starting to form what i assume is protective bark. but a while back i read that basil isn't perennial, and i just have a hard time believing that this wonderful little guy is going to wilt within a few months. why form bark if you're not going to stick around, you know?is there anything i can do to keep this beauty alive in the fall/winter?
>>2832864It's a warm weather plant. It dies from exposure to cold below what it can tolerate, which is probably slight compared to your actual winter temperatures (like 50 degrees or something?). It will keep living if it stays somewhere warm like indoors. Some stuff can squeak by outside as long as the underground portion is insulated enough. Winter protection is more about protecting subtropical plants that are cutting it close from severe temperature swings, like from the wind. You *could* let it flower and save the seeds for next Spring, maybe take some cuttings and let them root and chill inside, but new basils from the grocery store are very economical and will have a huge head start from being started in a greenhouse.They aren't exactly programmed to die when the clock strikes or something like that.
>>2832883i see. thank you. prompted by your post, i did some further reading. 40 degrees seems to be basil's limit. they can keep indoors over winter but will probably require grow lights, and they do still die off after a while from what i've read -- 2-3 years being a typical life span.also, my plant has flowered, but from what i just read it happening relatively early in the season is a sign of distress. i must've messed up somehow.
>>2832891Stress flowering kinda depends on the species. Maybe the pot is too small and it's filled up the whole space already, or maybe the weather was just too hot this year. My holy basil did the same thing, it was trying to flower basically all year long. (My lovage straight up died back to the root a couple of weeks ago from the heat.) You just need to pinch the flowers off and it will keep growing like normal. It's mainly a problem because the plant will use its energy to develop the flowers/fruits/seeds instead of growing, although a lot of edibles are also rendered gross or inedible if they successfully bolt. Basil is pretty easygoing, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Is garden cloth a scam? People keep telling me they don't stop weeds. >>2832015How long does that hold me over before it becomes a weedy mess again?
>>2833052In my experience it helps a lot but you still have to maintain since they always fine a way.
>>2833052Use it if you want disintegrating plastic in your soil forever
Pineapples
>>283311950 or so planted around the house, allegedly helps control the pH in the soil.
Persian limes doing alright.
All of the mangoes are flowering and some already have fruits, next month is mango season.Have around 20 mango trees planted around the house and over 30 planted somewhere else.
Another type of mango, you can see the flower stems have a different color than the other, fruits are also different, those others are round and bulky while these are slightly longer and have some different colors as well.All different types taste different.
>>2833120im incredibly envious
>>2833127Someone I knows sells pineapples and when people ask them to cut and prepare they save the crown for me, I just put the crown on the water, wait until it creates roots and then plant it, two years later I have another pineapple.
anyone have experience with prickly pears? my yard is sloped so i was wondering if they would just fucking fall over
>>2832966thanks again! i might try to snip the flowers and see how it goes.
My pickling cucumbers really took off. I've been having to pick them every day. I've started looking through them twice a day so I don't miss many and have them get too big. I made 4 quarts of dills today.
>>2833214How many plants?
>>2833181They're naturally pretty prostrate, it should be fine
>>28332268 a foot apart. I should have planted fewer, the vines are super dense near the base which was hiding all the flowers. Now that they are spreading out the bees can find the flowers.Looks like my first dwarf sunflower is about to open.
Sometimes I feel like my knowledge has gone backwards, I watered the tomatoes yesterday, today they seem a little wilted. I don't know anymore if they need water or not. Cold spring slowed their planting and growth, normally I'd have rip fruit a month ago. (google would have me believe 25c+ temperatures slow tomato ripening, I think thats bs)Grape are doing great this year, animals are eating them just before harvest as usual.
How do I keep cats out of my yard? They eat and shit everywhere.
>>2833325Projectile violence probably.
>>2833325Use havahart or tomahawk traps. Then kill.
>>2833325Get your own cat so it's not free territory
>>2833333Kys instead
>>2833333What a horrible waste of digits.But yeah no Kys.
First beans of the year, first beans I've grown in general, pretty nice.
>>2833360>>2833383t. feral catfaggots
>>2833129i wonder if that would work with store bought pineapples. how much of the crown do you place in water? and how long until it creates roots?
>>2833244even the more upright ones? i wanted some of them ficus indicas
>>2833324Tomatoes are tropical, but they're adapted to forest clearings where they have protection. If they get too much Sun and it gets too hot, they will unironically wither away in Summer.
Lazy squash boys at dawn. I don't pay them to sleep.
I have limited growing experience, but I'm amazed every time I look at my pepper plant. Once I put it outside and let it get ~9-10 hours of hot, humid sun, it just exploded. I go to work, come home, and I can see even in that time that it's grown taller and shot out a bunch of side growth. It looks to have 7 buds forming on it now at the top, with 1 I'm sure will fully bloom tomorrow. I just hope it handles heat well enough to form peppers. I'm at an average of ~90F days
You can't grow corn in a raised b-ACK
>>2833658No one said you couldn’t. It’s just retarded.Raised beds in general are retarded and for retards. Why should I care what you do in daycare?
>>2833658It's just expensive and pointless, nobody told you it's impossible they told you not to do it
Strawberry growers; what is your strawberry setup looking like?I have some in a large raised bed, but its legs broke off and now it just sits pretty much on the ground and is open to all kinds of little retards raiding it.i want to make my own standing bed, but have it be about 3 feet off the ground.The other problem with the existing plants is they're growing like crazy which is great, tons of flowers but it seems like all the strawberries are super small (the ones that actually ripen - see the little retard creatures eating them all)Just looking to get some ideas for a raised bed/planting box and if anyone knows what kind of plant food i should give the strawberries. Im also going to being planning to overwinter them in some way
My thai long bean flowers weren't opening and just sliding off. I thought it was the high heat (100F recently). Apparently, they pollinated themselves without ever opening though because it's the fruit growing that are causing the flowers to slide off. The fruit is pushing them outward.
>>2833685>what is your strawberry setup looking like?Basically a 35x5 mat that deeply needs thinning. I have four varieties, all everbearing. San Andreas, Albion, Seascape and Mara de Bois. I had real bad problems with botrytis earlier this year, especially on the MdB >strawberries are super smallStrawberries are hungry, I feed mine a lot every two weeks. Use lots of organic fertilizer or synthetic water soluble 20-20-20 or granular 12-12-12, something well balanced
Beautiful.
I can find a 40lb bag of 13-13-13 for $25, but I can't find 0-10-10 for anywhere close to that cheap.
>>2833690You can see the flower starting to slide off as the fruit grows in size. It never opened. Also visible is a wasp and some red ants. They're attracted to the extrafloral nectaries. I guess the plant attracts them to fight off pests.
all my tomatoes are like this
>>2833829Rain got em. Inconsistent watering and the skin can’t grow fast enough they should be fine if they scab over before the bugs get them, just remove that part.
>tomato cages are for determinate tomatoes>indeterminate should be stakedWhat do I use, then? Bamboo reeds taped together as needed?
If you grow a fruit tree like an apple in an air pot will it fruit early because the natural root pruning acts like dwarfing to diminish its growth?
>>2833792Bean flower opened
>>2833898indeterminates just grow longer and don't stop growing, so they will exceed the height of a cageyou just need something much taller like a pole or a clothsline so you can keep adjusting them, like you tie a rope right above them and just shorten it as needed to hold the plant up
Lots of honeybees in my flowers, lots of honeybees trying to make nests on gourds I poked holes in and made bird nests, I am thinking about getting bee boxes to put them in but I don't know anything about them and I think some might be africanized honeybees, anyone has experience with them?
These are leaf miners, right? Basil looked fine the night before, now I wake up and a ton of leaves are fucked
Will bloodmeal make my yard stinky? I was thinking blood and bone for my berries. I was just gonna scratch it in with some compost and mulch over it.
Where my coconut bros at
Have both yellow and green ones.
>>2833829Cut off unappealing parts and sauce them
>>2832357>4aGrow berry bushes or fruit trees.
Almost September, mangoes soon!
Does anyone know how to use nonoic acid/perlagoruc acid?Some days it works, some days it doesn't, can't work out what's going on here. I can't get it to work and the manufacturers instructions are not trustworthy or usefulDroplet size, ambient humidity/temperature?
it hasn't been a vey good season for me. I started a new job that demands alot of me, and I am just too exhausted to do garden stuff. I tried to become a master gardener this year but I don't think I'll be getting the hours by the end of next month. I want to quit my job and work with plants. The most positive thing in my life right now is all the chestnut trees I was able to grow into saplings. Learned alot from last year and stuck the trees in a makeshift greenhouse which were just two of the biggest see through tubs I could get at home depot. Im convincing myself that Im just letting my field go fallow this season. I feel like Im letting myself go fallow this year to. Just letting the weeds grow, and go to seed to deal with next year. If I do grow a graden next year I'll probably use landscaping fabric instead of natural or using cardboard or whatever the fuck I can use.
>>2833421Just a beany boy, grats anon
>>2834463>I feel like Im letting myself go fallowThis. I share your feels anon. Been a rough go. My mom died a while back and I’m still dealing with the fallout. I know I’m depressed because I can see it in my plants. I just don’t know how to snap out of it. Even my garden has become depressing because I can’t get myself together to take care of it. My chicken flock is half the size it was before and my garden is virtually just a weed field at this point. I miss the before times and now that schools starting again and the kid is going I’ll have less time and less hands to help. I hope next year we have acres I want to start over I just don’t know how.
>>2834464Thanks anon. They tasted great too. The chilis, tomatoes, physalis and cucamelon all need a bit longer, but this was a nice first surprise.
>>2834521Different person, here. I would really like to try cucamelon pickles.
So this year I've grown my first 4 tomato plants on my balcony and have just harvested (or whatever the English word is) the first bunch and honestly i think I'm a fan.I'm planning to grow more stuff by myself next years. Can anyone shoot some advice which plants are easiest to start with and so on? Any good books or other resources on the topic? Also I keep seeing gardening books in second hand stores, I assume the info in that is still mostly good, even if it's 50 years oldI'm aware that I won't be able to achieve full self sufficiency with just my balcony and if that was my goal I shouldn't be living in the city in the first place. But I think I do want to take my first step towards that and see where it leads me.
>>2834530I've heard garlic is pretty easy, but i have to admit, i always forget when to plant them, so this advice is secondhand.
>>2834539>garlicHardneck if you're in the north, softneck if you're in the south. Plant in October/November while the ground is still workable but not so soon that the garlic will try to sprout early
>>2834529I'll have to see how many I get, I've never had cucamelon to begin with. If I have spares I might try it. Unfortunately the cucamelons struggled really hard with being moved outside, none grew that great indoors and of the 3 I gifted to relatives all 3 died. I kept 2 for me (1 spare) and one of them died too, so I can't even blame the usual cause - my relatives anti green thumb.Seem like fussy lil guys until they are established outside.Anyways if I get a good harvest and pickle some I'll report in here.
>>2834530A fellow balcony grower here. Tomatoes are a great starter because they are easy to grow, very tasty and have good yields. >Can anyone shoot some advice which plants are easiest to start with and so on?It depends majorly on what you like and what your limitations are. Balcony means container farming, so that'll be your major limitation. You also have limited space, so I recommend focusing on high yield plants (so a lot of food per plant).The big one you should consider is chilis. They are as easy to grow as tomato (maybe even easier as they need less nutrients) and have very high yields. You can buy some in the supermarket and grow those seeds or you can order more obscure varieties. I really like sugar rush stripey myself as a variety.Other plants worth considering: Chili, peppers, Bok choi, chard, mustard greens, physalis, jerusalem artichoke, if you have vertical space (either a trellis or long sticks) also beans, squash and cucumbers. It majorly depends on what you actually like to eat though, as there's no value in growing something that you don't enjoy.Also do not forget herbs, very easy to grow are basil, laurel, rosemary, thyme and mint. All those you can buy at a supermarket and grow from those for cheap (except the laurel).>I keep seeing gardening books in second hand storesGardening info is separated in universal knowledge and very localized knowledge that applies to where you live. Local books are much better for that latter part, so not only are they likely okay, but probably better than a random book you buy online.Anyways here's more generalized advice that I've learned from 4 years of taking my balcony gardening more seriously:- Your most precious resource is space, so maximize that(cont)
A bunch of my string trellises have been snapping so I spent some time yesterday replacing all the strings from last year. I definitely shouldn't use hemp twine for more than 1 year. Next year I'll switch to plastic twine.
>>2834554(cont)- Watering containers sucks ass, consider building sub irrigated planters yourself. They are cheap (~3$ or so per piece without filling), plants grow in them better, and they reduce the maintenance needed drastically (think watering once a week instead of once a day). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRhLZM-cJZ0 is a short youtube video on a DIY version. Don't adhere to it 100%, use your brain a little; instead of expensive landscape fabric you can use old cut up clothes or fly mesh, instead of perlite you can add charcoal sold for grilling, instead of those US buckets use whatever is cheap at your hardware store etc. - If space is your most valuable resource, then soil is the second most valuable. Unfortunately in containers, it will get used up eventually. You have to fertilize the soil sometimes. Making notes of plant types for a rudimentary crop rotation is good. Every few years, remove the soil from the containers, mix it all up, add some new soil, and fill them again. Keeps things fresh and spreads the nutrients around. - A cheap, apartment dweller friendly way of getting quality fertilizer is keeping worms. They don't smell, don't make noise and need feeding somewhere between every few weeks to a few months. You can go 4 months without feeding if you want - most of the time they are just a plastic box in your house somewhere that you dump old paper and kitchen scraps into, then once a year you get premium fertilizer. Low cost, low maintenance, very worth it. - Look at your balcony and figure out what area gets how much sun, then place the plants accordingly. - While i said space is the most important resource, if your plants are too closely packed the chance of disease increases a lot. If you get powdery mildew before the absolute end of the growing season, your plants were too close to allow for proper airflow. - Your garden will take as much effort and money as you let it. If you want to you can spend a lot or little. Your choice.
>>2832577>>2832689Also this is after letting it go for a few days. There are probably at least as many still green.
Reminiscing on last year's corn field since this year's got rekt by lack of sunlight, too much rain, possible weather modification warfare
Next year I'm trying a corn field about half this size using no-till and tarps, maybe some kind of paper material so the ground doesn't get leeched with plastic
My bean structures that usually stand all year got knocked down by freak wind storms too with all the rain, had to stand them back up using 15 foot 2x4s on each side like pitching a giant tent
My cat guarding my cantaloupe seedlings
>>2834607I would be nothing without my protector kit
>>2834609Pouring one out for the blossom-end-rotten
>>2834611It's not BER, it's some other kind of damage. Tomato is fine other than that
>>2834627Very nice fig.To be fair if you harvest early enough you can often still salvage like half the tomato even with BER. But I'm glad if it's not that.
>>2834463i didn't grow much this year so i just watered the ground and let weeds grow... kinda nice actually still gives plant dopamine
squash flower.... JAPAN
>>2834652Why does this flower look like how hentai artists draw manticore tails?
>>2834597Man, I wish I had a big bowl of those to snack on right now. One of my sun golds is about ready to transplant while the other is lagging behind a little, but I'll probably have them both outside in another week or so. Any pics of the plant itself?
First flower bloomed
>>2834783The plant is an absolute mess, haJumbled over itself through a cage because that's what I had and held off of the ground with twine and nursery pots. It should make it through the season though.
>>2834783And some Sweet 100s from a similarly rigged plant.
>>2834539>>2834554>>2834558Thanks a lot for the input lads. I'll filter through it and make a plan on how to start this out.>garlicsounds like a really cool idea, especially since you can plant it in September/October, so I won't have to put this motivation I've got off until next year.Unfortunately I love in Central Europe and the garlic I got at the supermarket is from Spain, but I'm sure I can find some local one at a farmers' market or something>focusing on high yield plants>there's no value in growing something that you don't enjoythat goes without saying. Actually my mom is really into Chilis and has like a dozen varieties growing at home, maybe I'll ask her for one that isn't too hot, since I'm a bit of a pussy when it comes to that stuffRest sounds like some nice inspo, I'll pick and choose from that>herbsFunnily enough some herbs I don't know the name of just started growing alongside my tomatoes accidentally. Also I think many herbs can easily be grown inside in my kitchen or living room so that's a nice way of maximizing space>consider building sub irrigated planters yourselflooks like a fun DIY project, I love making shit myself>keeping wormsDunno why but that sounds fun as fuck. I'll definitely build myself a little wormbox.Is it true they don't smell though? I would imagine putting kitchen scraps in here would have quite a lot of small and attract fruit flies and shit. My intuition would be to but it outside somewhere.>Your garden will take as much effort and money as you let it. If you want to you can spend a lot or little. Your choiceYep, I'm aware I'm way too excited about the idea right now and will probably get a reality check of how much gardening I can really do in the beginning with zero prior knowledge and starting from scratch with equipment. But I'm sure I'll find a happy medium that I can build of off over time.
>>2834882>maybe I'll ask her for one that isn't too hotGreat idea, it's starting to be harvesting time, so you can also just get a chili from her, scrape out the seeds, dry them and keep them for next year. >since I'm a bit of a pussy when it comes to that stuffThere's no shame in that, just disregard the varieties I mentioned earlier then, those are all towards the hot end of the spectrum. Capsicum anuum and jalapeno are nice options that are on the mild to medium spectrum, there's also varieties that aren't hot at all. Since you said central europe, look up if there's dedicated chili seed stores for your country, I'm german and we have a lot of options. They'll usually also allow you to order by heat, so you can choose mild ones. One way to find them is to look up the seed type on amazon, then see who sells them, and google their name, usually they have their own page where you can get everything cheaper.>Also I think many herbs can easily be grown inside in my kitchen or living room so that's a nice way of maximizing spaceCorrect, just keep in mind that plants need light. Personally I grow herbs in my kitchen in small SIPs, and in those balcony pots you hang onto the rail as those are too small for bigger plants anyways.>Is it true they don't smell though?Yes, but not always. The same guy I linked a video on also has one about wormkeeping that sums it up nicely. In short, they need "browns" (paper or old dried leaves) and "greens" (kitchen scraps). About 7:3 brown to green or more. The box I have is in my bedroom and has holes on the top, you don't smell it at all. If you open the box and take a deep whiff, it smells a bit like forest ground after a rainfall, so mildly earthy. HOWEVER this is the sign of a healthy microclimate. If you majorly fuck up it can develop smells, which are almost universally unpleasant. Too many kitchen scraps and you get a moldy/rotten smell, too many sugars and it may smell alcoholic etc. (cont)
>>2834882>>2834883(cont)You shouldn't add whatever in terms of scraps, stuff that develops strong smells or makes for good places for flies to lay eggs is better for the trash. You also should only add very small amounts until they are gone (like half a handful or something) first, until the worm population grows and you know how fast they feed. So TL;DR: If you do it right there's no smells, but if the microclimate of the box isn't ideal it will start smelling.>My intuition would be to but it outside somewhere.That's perfectly fine, many keep them on their balcony. In my case my balcony gets hotter than satans asshole because it's pointing towards a parking lot, which the worms wouldn't like and if you're in central europe winter can be a bit of an issue - if the box is big enough, even frost is fine (the worms will just go towards the middle like they'd in nature) but too cold for too long with too small a box and they will die. You can either bring them in in winter, or if the box is big enough leave them outside.>Yep, I'm aware I'm way too excited about the idea right now and will probably get a reality check of how much gardening I can really do in the beginning with zero prior knowledge and starting from scratch with equipmentThat's part of the fun though, I look back at each year and each year I learn something new. Just have fun, even if some plants won't grow well at first you'll learn a lot.
>>2834883>scrape out the seeds, dry them and keep them for next yearSounds good, incidentally I'm visiting her soon>I'm german and we have a lot of optionsOh neat, me too>jalapenothat was the first that came to mind actually, just haven't checked yet, if I could grow them. I keep needing one of those for recipes but can't be fucked to buy a whole pack just to be forced to use them all or let them go bad. Getting to pick them fresh is a great fix for that. Same for salad, I'm living by myself and rarely need more than a couple of leaves for a meal.>just keep in mind that plants need lightYeah, unfortunately my kitchen window is facing NNW, so it only gets direct light in the evening right before sunset (depending on the season), meanwhile my balcony and living room are SSE facing so it's in full sunlight for most of the day. But I'm a big boy, I can figure out which plants need direct light and which can live with indirect light>The box I have is in my bedroom and has holes on the top, you don't smell it at allNeat, that sounds encouraging. Especially since I haven't thought about the box getting to warm/cold, that might definitely become an issue with mine.Thanks for the advice again. I'm compiling it all in my journal and will get started as soon as I can.
>>2834889>Oh neat, me toosamenchilishop.de are solid for germany. I've mostly had good experiences and one time that some seeds didn't germinate at all they refunded me. "extra10" sometimes gives you 10% off too. They have more than just chilis.>I keep needing one of those for recipes but can't be fucked to buy a whole pack just to be forced to use them all or let them go bad. Getting to pick them fresh is a great fix for thatJalapeno seeds are easy to buy, but you can also grow them from the store bought ones. Most plants are very easy. My advice is to look up how to keep seeds (usually it's just harvest and dry, but for example for tomatoes some fermenting helps too) so you can keep seeds from each year and each plant that has good seeds to re-use. Massively cuts down on cost. I'm definitely a bit neurotic about it, but I keep them in picrel, sold as a "jewelry box", but ziploc bags or even just some aluminium foil wrapped around the seeds works too. Just label them so you know what's what. Eventually you'll have a nice collection of varieties over multiple years, maybe even have some crossbreeds/mutations.>I'm compiling it all in my journal and will get started as soon as I can.Just have fun, it's a great hobby.
Have a few things on my mind as I kind of start to look ahead to the fall and what i want to do next year.>Blackberries and Raspberries had very small yields this year. Blackberry plant was new and grew like crazy but didn't fruit. Raspberry came back from last year and grew like crazy but just had a few berries early in the season.Do i need specific plant food for them? I have a 13-13-13 plant food i was going to use, but i also usually give all the plants a liquid Miracle Gro thats attached to the hose>Winterizing PlantsNE Ohio; last years i put the berry plants in the shed but this year they're in larger ground level planters. Should I just leave them out? buy some kind of burlap covering for them?>Low watering shrub?I have a planter out front that i usually put annual flowers in every year, but its like...a unnecessary expense i think if i can just grow perennials. I was thinking something that doesn't require a lot of water like a shrub though. Its kind of a pain in the ass to lug the watering can up front, but not impossible if i need to. it gets full sun all day so im wondering if anyone has any flowers that look good, do well in full sun and don't need a lot of water.
>>2834902>worms eat paper?Browns (paper, dead leaves) around 70% or more, and greens (30% or less) actual plants. I mostly give them my amazon packaging and egg cartons. They like that a lot.>how many worms would one need, being a balcony gardenerGet a good bunch, definitely more than what a fishing store would sell, but how many depends on the size of the container and how much time you have to wait. I think I started with 200 or something (might have been 500 but I doubt it). I got european nightcrawlers because they do double duty as fishing bait, but if composting is your main concern, red wigglers is what you're after. They're a little smaller but compost faster. They'll naturally adapt the population size to the container and conditions, so if you're doing it right they'll multiply until they are enough for the container, then stop laying eggs. So really it's up to what container you want to have, I'm using some random plastic box, with some holes in the top. 60x40x20 cm if it matters, but you can go bigger or smaller. If you start with very few worms, you'll simply need to wait longer until they multiply. If you get your worm bin started, they'll take a while to like it, since it needs to develop a microclimate first, so you can very much start the bin and fill it with cut up paper and cardboard and wet it before the worms are there, to let it get a headstart.The term to read up more on it is "vermicology", "vermicomposting" or "vermiculture".
>>2834904>I think I started with 200 or somethingI'm wondering how realistic it would be to just scoop up a few from the nearby park or fields during rainfall and let them ultiply
>>2834906People have started with just fishing bait which is like 10-20 worms, so it's realistic, it'll just take a lot longer (exponential growth and all that). You can also get them started in much smaller containers since there'll be so few, so if it doesn't work out you don't have to waste a large initial investment and effort. Something like an old large yogurt container or some shit. Just make sure they're the same species. If you're in europe, ENCs are trivial to find, no idea how it is in the US.
>>2834907I'll give it a shot and report back.Also just learned that worms are hermaphrodites so I don't even have to worry about getting males and females it seems
>>2834908There's also a non-zero chance whatever worm you pick up will lay eggs by itself. Anyways, do report back with your results. More info is always good. Just read up on what environment they need, and don't forget "grit" (something that they can use to break down material, as they lack teeth). I used sand stolen from my local playground, or crushed eggshells, both work fine. If you use sand, boil it to kill off whatever else might be in there, you're gonna introduce it to a wet environment, it would be foolish to bring whatever eggs are in the local playground sand.If you keep the container outside anyways, that's less of a concern.
>temperature is 3F hotter than normal>baby tomato plant now covered in sunscaldI thought the little pussy was hard by now
finally got my greenhouse set up.how many coca plants do i need to be able to take a bump?
>>2834834Now I see what I'm up against. I don't think my potted plants will ever look like this, but hopefully between 2 plants, they'll produce near the level of one free-range monster Sun Gold. >>2834835Beautiful. What do you normally do with your cherries? Just snack on them, or do you make sauce or preserve them? I have basil growing alongside mine, and I like to make a fresh pan sauce for pasta with cherry tomatoes. garlic, onion, white wine, and fresh basil. I could eat that every day and never get sick of it, and I hope I'll be able to when mine start producing
>>2832505Planted grass seed from a bag that was in the garage for an unknown number of years and none of it came up. I was going to plant sod instead but the garden places didn't get any for 2 weeks straight since the grass farm got heavy rain just before cutting day 2 weeks in a row. So back to seed again with a fresh bag.
>>2834604>maybe some kind of paper materialmaybe cotton canvas painters tarps? they might rot though.
>>2835026>What do you normally do with your cherries? Just snack on them, or do you make sauce or preserve them?A bit of everything. I eat some fresh and with salads. I just cooked a bunch into sauce to use them up, though I'm not sure I would bother with canning them. I haven't tried pickling any but I should. I'm growing some basil in a pot this year too but it bolted pretty early. I should try to collect some of the seeds.I actually prefer full sized tomatoes in general because they're easier to work with and tomato sandwiches are great. All of my larger ones were kind of stunted this year though and are only now starting to produce.
>>2835361>I'm growing some basil in a pot this year too but it bolted pretty early.Next time, go with this variety. Classic genovese flavor, quick growing with tons of dense leaves, and doesn't bolt even in weeks of 90F+ weather
Someone has been trespassing into my backyard to steal from my fig and plum tree. Today he was bold enough to leave a ladder behind so I’ve kept it>be me>rent a house in the downtown of a small college town>backyard is visible from courtyard of popular small food joint>have a large fig tree that people have picked from >no issue. The branches were in the other side of the fence anyway>last week roommate says he caught some guy leaving through our side gate with some fruit>says he had permission>I have not given anyone permission>ffw today>head to backyard after work to tend to garden>there’s a fucking ladder next to my fig treeI work a regular 8-5 job so I’m guessing that the person comes around that time. Since they left a ladder behind I’m assuming they plan to come some time tomorrow or Monday. I’m gonna stake out in my room (window faces path of side gate) and see if they come again so I can confront them. If I miss them I’ll leave a note saying to buy the ladder off me
>>2835469Put up a sign so he knows he's not welcome, then record him doing it. He has to be informed to be trespassing, but the sign will do that, and trespassing with the intent to commit a crime is burglary.
>>2835469Just get a dog, and there will be an end to the horror.
>>2834823And then it wilted and fell off. More flowers have bloomed, but it's still too hot for them to pollinate. A few more weeks I guess, and the temperature will come down enough. Zone 9B is an odd place to grow. Things you associate with Summer wont produce until Autumn.
Spent the last couple days manually pulling out ivy that had grown under a japanese maple the last decade. Those fucker put roots down every chance they get. The tree is healthy but is much smaller than the other one I planted around the same time so I was wondering if the ivy was causing that.
>>2835469Justifiable execution
>>2835469this is why you are suppose to plant poison ivy and thorny brambles all over your yard.
Is a grass lawn relatively easy to maintain? I don't think I would mind the mowing, but shit like weeding is what I want to get rid of.
We cleared our ~70'x70' front yard with our chickens and then sequestered them into a smaller space, turning the cleared space into an expanded garden. Last year was fine but the weeds absolutely took over this year. We're starting to realize that the raised beds in the back plus the front garden is too much work for us and both are suffering for it.What I'd like to do is put netting up around the entire front area and loose the chickens again this fall to clear it all again, then plant native prairie over the whole thing. All of those brown eyed susans in the back left are from an attempt at that in a smaller area. Here's the question - if going for native prairie, could I still have the chickens on that bigger space over the fall/winter and then put them back in their smaller space, and still have the prairie come back in the spring, or do you think they'd completely fuck it? Would love for them to be able to clean up the bigger area every fall/winter then have the prairie bring itself back every spring.
>>2835542grass is the most expensive plant in garden
>>2835547>most expensiveCare to elaborate?
>>2835469The Greeks and Romans had Priapus for just such an occasion.>When the sweetness of the fig shall come into thy mind and thou shalt long to stretch forth thine hand hither, glance mindfully on me, O thief, and calculate what weight of mentule will be voided by thee.
I trimmed the roots / tops off the garlic after drying 3 weeks. 63 of them after using some for dill pickles and giving a few to my brother. During the growing season about 5 plants died. 27 on the right are intact, 25 on the left burst the bulbs while growing, 11 on top are the largest I'm saving to plant in October. This is the first time I've had garlic burst open like that. The cloves in the bulbs are all quite large.
>>2835542Plant clovers
If I let aphids eat up an unrelated weed I don't care about, is that like propagating aphids to all my other plants or does it not matter? They're some huge ass 7 foot burnweeds if you're curious
>>2835546>We cleared our ~70'x70' front yard with our chickens and then sequestered them into a smaller spaceThe white man's greed knows no end
>>2835624>Plant cloversintriguing, will look into
>>2835654how do you plan to convince the aphids to stay on that one plant?
Added more automation to the seed-raising greenhouse. It already has heaters controlled by an STC-1000 controller for those winter nights. But when the sun gets on it during the day it gets too hot. So I used the extra output of the STC to control this gear motor which opens and closes the top door. Limit switches turn off the motor at the open and closed positions. The wiring will be tidied up better in time, I only just managed to throw everything together as the light was fading this Sunday afternoon.
am i correct in thinking that i should clear the grass/weeds around the trunks of fruit trees? i figure those longish grasses and weeds are havens for little critters who'll then climb up the tree and eat my plums.
>>2835701>am i correct in thinking that i should clear the grass/weeds around the trunks of fruit trees?Yes, a tree's roots are generally as wide as its canopy. Get rid of the grass in that area and mulch heavily without letting the mulch touch the trunk. >little critters who'll then climb upUse picrelated or something similar to it, it's just essential oils and diatomaceous earth
>>2835702much appreciated anon!
>>2835670Well that's my question, will this impact the population of them more than say the random other plants outside my yard
>>2835654Snip the tips of the plant with young shoots that are populated with aphids and burn them.The plant should still attract more if any come, but you will get rid of the immature ones, and shrink the potential population.Also make sure to not let any ants reach nor nurture them (they farm/milk them for the sugary secretion). Surround the affected plant with a moat, the ants won't cross water.
>>2835725Kill them. They will reproduce more and thus need more food next year. Plant things that attract ladybugs or whatever.
told a girl i like to grow stuff and now we talk daily
>>2835735Based.Feed her some fresh produce. Aim for sweet and/or starchy.
>>2835732>Plant things that attract ladybugs or whateverI thought the point of that was to attract aphids, which attracts ladybugs
>>2835741>>2835732I've had aphids and lady bugs. The lady bugs never even make a dent in the aphid population, it's a total meme. Aphids can reproduce hourly or some shit, in a few days there's millions of them. How many aphids can a single lady bug or larva consume in a day? Your yard would need to be thick with lady bugs to effectively control an aphid population. Everything I've tried on aphids is a meme. I just spray them with fly spray now. Them and the shitty fucking argentine ants that farm them. Make sure there's no bees around.
>>2835819One time when I was delivering papers, I stopped for a second when a house I was totally used to being white was suddenly a reddish pink colour. I only realized when I got closer that every square inch of the house was covered in ladybugs.
>>2835821I've seen something somewhat similar, in the cooler months they gather in large clusters for warmth/protection I believe.
>>2835826This is in Canada, so it was the warmer months. They are all dead in the colder months.
>>2835826In the fall when I picked apples there were always tons of ladybugs nestled into the depression where the stems come out of the apples. I rarely see them on the ground aside from spring when they are under the fallen leaves so I think they stay up in the tree all summer.
>>2835819I guess I didn't really understand what I was looking at at first. I looked closer and I was able to spot some white ladybug larvae crawling around. The aphids seem mostly gone and all that's left are lots of eggs under the leaves. I assumed there would be more since I saw lots of ants running, but it doesn't seem to have saved them.
>pepper flowers just keep droppingA pepper plant of all things can't take a little summer heat? How do these things even survive in the wild?
has anon grown mushrooms in an outdoor bed? a lot of my yard is shaded so it seems like the way
>>2836027Are you giving it enough water? In the flowering stage I've found them to be a little easily disturbed by drought. You want them to dry out a little once you have many fruit to increase heat, but while flowering I'd try not to let them dry out too much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py5veSGfGgE
>>2836169sunflowers are quite popular in this general, can you explain why?
>>2836187Not him, but they are good for you and really pretty.
>>2836187they are a popular plant in general. easy to grow, awesome looking, lots of varieties, almost no pests, huge pollination attractors with no real problems at all.I wanted to have a big garden with lots of foliage. also sunflowers have a satisfying life cycle and are fun to keep out over the winter.sunflowers are good for baby's first garden, impress newbs and command respect because they are always visible. there you go anon. sadly, my white sunflowers didnt really do much and none of my chocolate ones came up either. I dont normally fault seed sellers, but since literally every other thing I planted/started indoors came up, i have to take issue with the vendor.
>>2836242Allelopathic and they can damage other plants if they get blown over by wind.
Am I a little early for pumpkins? Kept some seeds of heirloom pumpkins from a farm last year and planted them in late-May along with some Pattypan Squash and more generic orange pumpkins. The squash and colorful pumpkins are huge and looking great but the handful of sugar pumpkins are still dark green and at least a month from harvest time.
>>2836261>early for pumpkinsThey keep for months after harvest. There's no such thing as early
Found these eggs/hatchlings on a leaf of my already infested tomato plant (I left for a few weeks and house mates didn't care for any of the plants).Anyone knows what they are? Should I be concerned?
vegetable beds are bare. established trees dying, things are going horribly wrong and I just don't know what to do.
>>2836325A couple of google searches and they look more like Stinkbug eggs, time to crush these fuckers.
>>2836245pointless to have a garden, it wouldn't survive a meteor strike
Found a species of stingless honey-producing bee in the vicinity, bought a bee box and started trying to catch them today, gonna post results later if I have any, hopefully.
>grasshoppers>flea beetles>leaf miners>cabbage whitesHow the fuck are you supposed to grow cabageoids?
>>2836570My cabbages always get eaten. My kale is unkillable, though.
>>2836570>plant out kohlrabi into bed at 9pm>by 9am the next morning, birds have stripped literally every leaf and pulled most of them out the ground>plant them back in the ground>they come back and do it again>and againEven the fucking cabbage whites didn't bother with them this year
>>2836580Have you tried those reflective stickers to dissuade birds?
>>2836357lamo, people ask me if it's "worth it" all the "hassle" to grow stuff.I always tell them no, nothings worth it. Because these fucks would ask me if sex is "worth it" with their mindset.
>>2836583Anti-bird measures don't really work unless they're not trying that hard
>>2836151how come he's not getting root rot when the roots grow long enough to be constantly soaked in water?
>>2836662not sure, but he keeps changing the water every few days so that might be part of it: https://youtu.be/py5veSGfGgE?si=xsScYOxRHzly1Prm&t=295
>tramples your gardenDon’t be like me and assume these people aren’t complete retards. Invest in those high vis mini flags and stake one in each of your plants
>>2836664Got to a clients home the other week. Landlord called plumber when the tenant was out, plumber drove a pickup across the lawn and beds with total disregard for everything planted there as if it was an off road adventure. Drove around the lawn in a circle and destroyed the garden edges. Pretty unbelievable.I just don't get what it is about independent trades people, it's like they believe they're liable for damage caused that's related to doing their job, but not liable for unrelated damage. If a tiler breaks a tile, they will fix it, but if they crash into your front fence when arriving they think that's not their problem. While the damage was egregious visually, pruning and restaking, re edging, sanding the lawn and sowing seed wasn't especially costly or painful.
Does anyone have a good reference for potting mediums?I've got to mix a few cubic meters and landscaping products are scarce in the county, someone's been monkeying with the price of vermiculite, sand.
>>2836663i saw that. must be it. pretty neat video overall. surprising how little medium is needed for a plant that size, and kinda wild how a rootsystem funneled through such a small opening can remain healthy.
>>2833792They usually open in the early morning and close later
Anyone has experience growing green house sweet potatoes in zone 8? Can they survive winter?
>store bought thyme>grow it>harvest it>dry it>rub the leaves off the stems>it has a "chemical" and "synthetic" smell to itwtf, if I didn't do this myself I'd say it's some synthetic imitation.how come the store bought dried thyme has a much more pleasant aroma?Just a different sort or did I fuck something up?
>>2836690maybe that's just the normal smell and you're used to the store bought stuff which is probably months old?
>>2836697Who knows. Maybe it's just too concentrated fresh and I'm used to something more mild and mellow?Fuck it, going to use it and see how my stuff turns out.
>>2836666Coco coir is relatively cheap and widely used in potting soils
>>2836682It would be a poor choice to try to grow a tropical broad acre crop in a greenhouse, or in zone 8. They need a long hot growing season, about 6 months. So yea, you could do it in a greenhouse, but do you really want to fill your greenhouse with relatively worthless potatoes for 6 months?It's not like tomatoes that you can start in the greenhouse and plant out.They can't tollerate frost at all, but you'd harvest them when the tops died anyway, the issue is the growing season>>2836705I'm looking for a full spreadsheet, kno/micro/composition by weight/volume. Technical material. I left my good manual in someone elses botanical garden and they won't give it back.
>>2836717>So yea, you could do it in a greenhouse, but do you really want to fill your greenhouse with relatively worthless potatoes for 6 months?If that's the main problem then I'm fine with it; 6 months should be achievable, do you reckon they could survive through winter?
>>2836681Maybe. I'm in my garden at dawn, though. I've seen some open ones occasionally now.
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>See stingless honey bees trying to make a nest inside one of my gourds that has a hole in it that I use to make bird nests>Go to the city, buy a bee box, learn how to make homemade bee lure with lemongrass, alcohol and propolis>Swarm disappeared, only bee scouts and showing up and looking around the boxHopefully they come back.The plastic bottle at the entrance is to avoid geckos, spiders and ants, I learned on the internet people that fool around with this.
Just need a "rent" sign now.
If I manage to catch them the honeycombs inside should look like this.
>>2832316I harvested my Oaxacan green corn today, nice cobs but unfortunately a lot of bird damage. I'm still happy with 49 cobs from 40 plants. Some had 2 cobs.
>>2836955Pic of cobs in question, birds caused a lot of damage
Are there any less boring sweet corn varieties?
>>2836955This is great, very pretty flowers, too.
>>2834823>>2835508It went from 90-95F average to about 88-93F average, and now I've got 3 pepper flowers pollinated with little peppers forming and I'm sure the rest will follow. There's a lot of buds popping up.>>2832857So far it's going great. First flower just fell off on its own, and the plant grew rapidly to the point of being obviously ready to fruit within a week of that post.I have cherry tomatoes growing too that are about a foot tall or slightly less with flower buds forming, but I know it will grow vigorously enough to not worry about it stunting the plant or anything like that.
what is this and why is it in my garden?
Why are Americans not really into ornamental plants? So much so that 'gardening' specifically relates to growing vegetables rather than covering growing both ornamental and edible plants.
>>2837132looks like a potato so very likely a nightshadeassuming you're in the US it seems like it's probably the not/less poisonous variety called black nightshade but don't do anything rashhttps://66squarefeet.blogspot.com/2016/09/black-nightshade.html
>>2837133why not have both?>>2836874i hope this works out for you bee anon. is this central america? never heard of stingless bees before.
>>2837132Seconding black nightshade>>2837133You can do both. I grow pomegranates and cornelian cherries, they're very beautiful and give you good fruit
>>2837133Our love of food.
>>2837135Deadly nightshade has a big calyx that's way wider than the fruit. This has a little one.
>>2837132>>2837135>>2837171I was thinking some random pepper because of the shape of the leaves and flowers
>>2837132>>2837171https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanum_nigrum
anyone else here trying to green the desert?
>>2837226Do you need to add organic soil to these?
>>2837171deadly nightshade makes singular big shiny fruits not clusters
>>2837263no, the idea is by simply altering the terrain it creates a foothold for indigenous plants to take root easier where they otherwise struggle. It's a minimal effort long term investment that's easier and more cost effective than actually planting anything with pretty good results.
>>2837226does one just make half moons, or is there some slope stuff involved as well? like whats the orientation of these basins
>>2837329Not that anon, but it is based on elevation. The moisture is heavy, so it flows down hill. If you make little pockets for it to fall into, plants make use of it.
>>2837332how do you determine where the soil is higher and lower? I can't eyeball a small non obvious slope that looks flat to me.
>>2837337If there isn't an incline, make one.
i dug some figs saplings out of a crack in some pavement ~2 years ago, had them in pots last year but put them in the ground before it got too cold. they're all single sticks still and had like 1-3 leaves, should i cut the tops off to make them branch a bit or something? looking at them now (southern hemisphere start of spring) they only have what look like leaf buds on their nodes
>>2837353
>>2837355so i just let the trunk continue until it's however high i'd like then chop off the top so it grows laterally? alright ty
>>2837337You dig a hole and use the dirt from the hole to raise the sides
>>2837329you dont need much slope. my 5 acres property has less than 10 feet of slope from the highest point to lowest point. as for the basins, the straight side is the mouth and the curved berm is the dam. you dig these on contour with your land. you go outside during a rainstorm and observe where the water runs and you dig them according to that.>>2837263nah, just mulch them with hay or wood chips. If I plant a tree in the basin Ill cut the native soil with some compost/coco coir if I have it.
If I want to grow tomato plants with 2 suckers to accompany the main stem for a total of 3 stems, about how how high up/how many sets of leaves should I start it at?Do I just let the first suckers on the first leaves grow out, or do I leave some space for future pruning of the bottom leaves and let the new stems form some way up the vine?
Late August and we're getting our hottest week of the summer. Its been unusually cool this year, only ran the AC 4 times before this week.
>>2837567Summer is over here
>>2835624>>2835659Sowed that stuff, this just might work!
Getting a ridiculous amount of tomatoes off the plants from the front yard with full sun. Multiple clusters of large tomatoes going up each plant. In the backyard with less sun we'd get large tomatoes at the bottom then they'd get smaller and smaller going up. Between the front and back yards I've probably picked at least 60 lbs of tomatoes so far.
Also got a shitload of cucumbers. Made 13 quarts of dill pickles, a bunch of sliced pickles and a lot of relish. Still have a 10 lb bag of cucumbers in the fridge with more coming every day so we're trying to give them away. Powdery mildew is ravaging the plants but I've got all the cucumbers I need.
>>2838237I also planted mini bell peppers in front of the tomatoes. I'm getting a lot of those, but I didn't realize they'd be mostly cherry tomato size. Next year back to regular peppers. I thought mini peppers would be better due to our short growing season. But now that I start my own plants indoors under grow lights I can get the pepper plants quite large and branched before planting putting me a month or more ahead of plants from a greenhouse.
>>2838239My mini bell peppers taste disgusting
The beans I planted after pulling the garlic are coming along nicely and should have beans in a week. I planted a lot of beans late because the first 2 batches were mostly duds. I'm going back to starting them all in trays like I did several years ago. One batch in the backyard is just starting to ramp up production.
I watched 3 Huw Richards videos and now want to make a vegetable garden, is a 5x5m enough to feed me? i want to do the raised beds and an willing to spend up to say 1000 euro. is huw richards a farce
>>2838726No it's not enoughUnless you're doing hydro
>>2833829Are you down in the south east?I'm in north carolina and all of my tomatoes did this after that 10 straight days of rain we got.Roasted them with balsamic, garlic, and olive oil and froze for sauce use later this season.
Is this cucumber leaf growing another mini leaf attached to it or is this just some very smooth damage?
Stupid hot all last week and this week it is forecast to get to just above freezing with chance of frost.
>>2838753Central California. Can't blame the rain for this, I was just watering too much. I thought the constant 100°+ weather meant I should be watering daily. This is the first year I've tried growing anything.
>have 5 laying hens>get 3-5 eggs a day>they 'free range' in a pen but have a food source i fill once every week but technically it lasts 2 weeks>water is a rain system via gutters>use a microcontroller to secure them and let them out into the pen based on sunrise and sunset times>a $14 50lb bag of feed lasts at least a month and a half>also have a garden>2 plats, a total of 72 plants cost me $25>gives me more veggies than i know what to do with so i just make tomato soups and curries and a fuckton of pickles>hens go broody and i kill the roosters for free meat>i also kill groundhogs and raccoons and eat them>you can also call the state game commission and have them drop freshly killed deer on your driveway for free>normies complain about food pricesHow is it this easy? If i was cursed enough to live in the city i'd still have a dovecote and be getting free food.
Hello.Please tell me some pet-and-human-friendly indoor plant pesticide, preferably something not morbidly expensive. Then again I never buy pesticide so maybe it's all expensive. Thank you.
>>2837136>i hope this works out for you bee anon. is this central america? never heard of stingless bees before.I hope it works too, for their own good.The first nest of theirs I found is on the ground, they are surrounded by ants.They are all around heavy machinery or tools and I don't want their nest to get squashed.
>>2837136>>2839058Their second nest is bellow a press in the hollow of a trunk I used to put the tool in.Both are Tetragonisca angustula, meliponines, stingless bees.They are one of 400 species that live here.
I am not taking them away or anything, I just put a box there, if they feel like moving I will go put them somewhere more secure with more water and more flowers around, instead of tractors, harvesters and all sort of equipment.
>>2839058>>2839059>>2839060>Tetragonisca angustulathats pretty cool, peaceful, stingless bonsai bees that make excellent honey. Do bees switch their nests? From what I understand to reproduce they split the swarm and one part of the swarm moves to a new site and builds a nest there. But do they move established nests or will you have to wait till it is swarming season?
>>2839003predator mitesnematodesBacillus thuringiensis depends a bit on what critters you're dealing with, but pic related pulled a veritable genocide on my fungus gnats. there are many biological agents that can deal with pests indoors, no poison required and you'll never see them because they live in the earth and once they are done they simply vanish.
>>2839122>But do they move established nests or will you have to wait till it is swarming season?They swarm once per year ( regular European honey bees swarm 3 to 4 times per year ) I saw a swarm of theirs last month, they tried to move into a gourd I had in my lawn.I'll leave the boxes there and wait, when they decide to move in I am gonna pick it up and move them, I put 3 boxes in 3 of their nests I saw here.
>>2839125from what I'm reading you cannot move the box once they moved in because the new nest is depending on the old for supplies, if you move them they might not find each others?
>>2839123>pic relatedhttps://youtu.be/0vp_4vc-btI?list=RD0vp_4vc-btI&t=157>and you'll never see them because they live in the earth and once they are done they simply vanish.https://youtu.be/0vp_4vc-btI?list=RD0vp_4vc-btI&t=193
>>2839128>if you move them they might not find each others?There is a period of waiting, you can see when they are done moving because they stop communication between one and the other.They are small bees but you can see them moving between one place and the other, it's how I found one of their nests in the ground.
>>2839131so cool, i always liked bees, their hum, their smells everything. always thought about getting into bees, but not enough space and stinging bees are more complicated. godspeed anon, please write an update when it works!
>>2836832>>2836833If you can find where the swarm is you are better off just trying to nab the queen and then putting her in one of the boxes you got and waiting overnight for the rest of the hive to move on over. Catching a hive is very hard and fickle as far as I know
>>2839129this is so cheesy it is actually funny.
>>2839135>nab the queen and then putting her in one of the boxesSee: >>2839058 ( underground on an abandoned ant nest )>>2839059 ( in the middle of a hollow on a trunk tree underneath a bench vise )The last one is in the middle of a wooden fence post, which would involve tearing down the gate at the entrance where my house is.It's impossible to catch the queen in any of these.Maybe on the trunk for the bench vise which would involve me using a chainsaw to tear it open.
>>2839141sounds a litte intrusive. maybe just stick to your old plan and wait till they move in on their own or then catch a swarming swarm and move them in.
>>2839140the song itself, or my joke?
>>2839129Here in Canada, we call it the Geneva checklist.
God bless basil. Loves the heat, grows fast, doesn't mind containers and delicious.
>>2839221(dies instantly to a light breeze)
Does anyone grow specific plants for herbal remedies? For example valerian, peppermint, camomile etc? I'm looking for some good plants to grow which can give me many health benefits, particularly for the gut. I'm going to start making broccoli sprouts very soon because they've got significant anti bacterial properties. Anything else I should look to grow to start with? Some indoors, some outdoors.
>>2839310I have hen and chicks for burns and bug bites
>>2839310Lemongrass ( good to lower blood pressure, makes you sleepy ) , boldo ( good for upset stomach or if you are feeling nauseous, not recommended to drink the tea often because it's strong ) , Lippia Alba... mind, I only have experience raising these here in South America, not sure how you will handle them up North.
>>2839310Forgot Lippia alba, this from wikipedia ( The plant is used medicinally for its somatic, sedative, antidepressant, and analgesic properties. )
Look at how many sprouts from one pineapple plant.
Different plant, Ananas comosus ( commonly called "pearl pineapple" here ).After it's ripe and you take out the fruit you can use all of these to make other pineapple plants.
>>2839310I just go foraging, most stuff I'm interested in that isn't also used for cooking is quite common
>still 85F at nightI hate this fucking climate
FUCKING CUTWORMS!!! Have y'all ever used one of those traps? Any tips?
>>2839396how much is that in real degrees?
>>2839461genuinely annoying that mericans use imperial instead of metric.every time you want to look something up its in some retarded degreeswhere 100 is not hot, and 0 isn't the point at which water freezes.
>>2839463Only literal retards dont know multiple systemsEven children can do these conversions in their heads
>>2839463Euros shit on Americans for not speaking two languages then can't even do simple math
>>2839464>having to do conversations form retard units to something sensible>noooo you are just to dumb to do itcope.I can do it, I just find it dumb as hell that I even have to.>>2839466imagine if instead of just saying 4, I give you some logarithmic equation that ends up as 4.And when you point out it's kinda fucking dumb I didn't just say 4. You go>noooo whats the matter can't do math?Only an absolute idiot admires complexity.A smart person admires simplicity.
>>2839464>>2839466>nobody understands my retarded systemsounds like a you problem
>>2839467>I'm smarter because I know less than youLmfaoEuropean education, everybody.
>>2839144Got an update, the bees from the abandoned ant nest seem to have taken a liking to the box.
>>2839474Wow, that was fast! What do you mean by taken a liking, are they moving the nest or just some interested scouting parties yet? How do you know they move, when they build the entrance?
>>2839480They keep going in and out, it's more than those but that was the only ones I got in the picture.There is another one from one of them actually entering it.
>>2839486Well congrats then beebro, looks like you got your first hive!Question, do beekeepers give their swarms names?
>>2839499Not that I am aware of, although I have seen some use paint on the outside of the box a different color from the others.
>>2839463>100 is not hotFahrenheit works well for the subjective experience of weather and has almost twice the resolution. 0 is fucking cold, 50 is cool, and 100 is fucking hot out.
>>2839538>Fahrenheit works well for the subjective experience of weatherexactly, subjective, what one motherfucker thinks is hot and cold, instead of having something objective like water freezing and boiling, an objective cold and hot.same as objectively metric is consistent and logical, while imperial is subjective bullshit that came from >the length of my finger, the length of my footetcand resolution doesn't matter because at any time you can say30C or 30.5C, or 30.0000005Cthe resolution is as big as you want it to be
>>2839611>objective like water freezing and boilingAt sea level.
I ordered some chipdrop for the first time this year to do some hardcore composting/mulching for next year. And I've noticed some dog vomit slime mold on top of the woodchips. Is this stuff bad for me? From what I understand it helps decompose the compost and the pile is pretty huge and wet because we're in our rainy season
Mangoes.
>>28396554 kinds, hundreds of trees, all packed.
>>2839655>>2839657just made me some sticky rice with mango for dinner.
New Gemini Dwarf Apple tree to replace the regular root stock Goodland apple tree I cut down a few weeks ago. Grass filled in the "weird hole" where the large crab apple tree stump used to be. I didn't get the hump levelled as well as I would have liked.
>>2839691More grass should be removed, that is a pitiful diameter.also, no support?
Anyone growimg mung bean/green gram? The seem to be very suscepltible to various rusts and leaf diseases
>>2839693A tree shouldn't be staked unless it absolutely needs it. It blowing around promotes stronger root growth
>>2839766it depends.newly planted trees should be staked if their roots are small in proportion to the above soil part(which it is)and not in a dead bolt manner where it can't move at all.
>>2839767>(which it is)How could you possibly tell what's below the soil line?
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>>2839772When did Home Depot start selling x-ray vision?
>>2839761No, but mung bean cakes are quite good.
>>2839773Elementary deduction my dear
>>2833668>Raised beds in general are retarded and for retardsThis is a retarded take.
I've been getting so many tomatoes idk what to do with them, about 3+ gallons so i decided to can my own tomato sauce. It was """mostly""" a success aside from my dumb ass forgetting how thermaldynamics works. Basically i had some leftover sauce that i was turning into curry and as i pulled a mason jar out of the boiler i dropped it into the curry. It didnt break but i thought 'huh i should probably clean this off' so i ran it under cold water and it exploded, covering my sink and myself in hot tomato sauce
>>2839785In eastern Europe they pickle tomatoes in brine, usually with dill, mustard seed, garlic and some other spices. makes a great beer snack. I made myself a few jars some time ago. It's pretty simple, wash the tomatoes, prick every single one with a needle or a a small fork so the skin has at leas one small hole, add them to the jar, add spices and herbs of your choice, make a brine with 25g salt per 1 litre of water, fill the jar with the cooled down brine (hot brine will break the glass) and as last step put a weight on top, clean river pebbles are the traditional choice. the weight is there so the veggie stay below the brine and away from oxygen.
>>2839785I cut them up, put them in a pyrex dish with some salt, pepper and olive oil, toss that into the oven on the lowest temperature for several hours and blend the result.
Anyone growing moringa and has some tips & tricks regarding growing it from seed? I tried growing moringa from seeds and I only got one plant from like 30 seeds but the plant died and I really hope the root is still alive. The root looked good but now I'm afraid I'll fuck it up with over or underwatering. I watched youtubevids, read websites and followd all the manuals, soaking the seeds prior, keeping them on a heating pad, cracking the seed coat open and nothing worked except of for one plant.
>>2839785Make soup like Gazpacho.https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/79/66/d57966708a717e79035fa246290b4ad2.jpg
I think there's something wrong with my corn...
>>2839902Gayest corn I ever saw*spits chaw*
After 4 cold nights last week including light frost that did minimal damage the forecast has 2 weeks of quite warm nights. My late planting of beans should have a chance to finish producing.
I cannot keep up. Next year I am growing nothing but flowers.
>>2840077Make pudding!
>>2840077What are these
>>2840172secret mushrooms, can't legally discuss them on public sites
>>2840172pattypan squash
>>2840180I know you need dung to grow them Just need the spore shots>>2840193What are they like?Normal squashes?
>>2840196taste is rather normal pickled squash, but they got a nice crunch to them.
>>2840196They taste like a normal zucchini but more mild imo. This is all from 3 plants... They are prolific.
>pepper plants actually like to dry out between waterings!>as long as there's some moisture in the top inch or two of soil, you shouldn't water!I followed this advice and my plant's been droopy and wilted every day this summer. Now I water once at late night/early morning and once in the afternoon and it's looking a lot better.Growing in a container
>>2840355i was cutting zucchini leaves as they said on youtube videos and it had almost no fruits
>>2840429I have two cherry tomato plants: one I pruned the suckers on like they say to do, the other I just let do what it wants. The pruned one is barely growing because it doesn't have the leafage it needs to get that kind of energy, while the other is growing beautifully with more fruits even though it's in a smaller pot. The shit they say, they tailor to specific conditions that are harmful to people growing outside of those conditions.All this time, stems/flowers were yellowing and dropping off my pepper plant, and I just thought "it must be heat stress, nothing I can do, the temps are too high, I just need to keep the plant alive until it cools down and the pollen can be viable again." Now that I'm doubling up the water, I see more peppers finally starting to grow, and I realize that should have been happening all this time. When you stick your finger in the soil and there's still perceptible moisture in inch or two deep, that's moisture caught between the roots and the surface. Water on the surface evaporates, water at the bottom gets sucked up by the plant, and then there's a zone of moisture nearer to the top that can't be used and isn't doing anything, so you still need to water the plant to get that bottom root zone hydrated.I've been getting fucked over all my life, so it's nothing new. At least now I know the truth.
>>2840434I'm a pepper container grower too, got my plants on a tray and I water them from the bottom, meaning I just fill the tray with water/fertiliser and within 1-2 hours all the water has been sucked up into the containers (by capillary effects?). The plants seem to love it and it takes a whole lot less time to water them.
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>>2840466Why? This is a slow board and this thread is still on page 6.
