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My pumpkins that were planted in August are the size of large tomatoes while in comparison the others I've seen are massive (imagine two footballs!). Am I missing a trick or were the others planted earlier?
>>2840413You mean your plants are the size of large tomatoes?if you planted your pumpkins last month then I'm surprised that they produced at all
So my chickens are growing up nicelySo far out of five chicks I have two chickens and three roostersI'll probably kill two of em or use em for rooster fighting
>plant blackberry plant>it grows a little>yard guys weedwhack it almost to death>few weeks later they do it again, maybe a third time idk(I live with family I would have already fired them were it my choice)>many more weeks later, buy another one and plant next to the firstI should specify here it's the saplings that are maybe a a twig and some leafs you get from generic stores.>months pass>the second one has grown a lot>the first one is still super small and has maybe a dozen small leafsI've used fertilizer, I've watered it, it's admittedly in not optimal clay but it's hard to do anything about that but again the plant 2 feet away is growing fine.Any ideas?
>>2840458Be carful black berries are the most aggressive weed I have ever encountered>If its in rock hard heavy clay then it might be trapped and the soil around it should be loosened>Put some plant matter around but not touching the stem to help lock in the water>water it at the base of the stem, if you water from over head the leaves might be scorched >don't put fertilizers directly on the plant or they might scorch it as well
>>2840457castrate them and make capon, best damn chicken there is.
>>2840485My nigga I'm no surgeonAlso isn't their balls inside like their cloacasI can snap the nuts off of mammals all day but I've never heard of a castrated rooster
>>2840458>yard guysShould have caged them or put them in a container or garden plot. Congrats on paying for a service to mow your lawn.
>>2840432>You mean your plants are the size of large tomatoes?Yeah. Oh is it, the packet said they could be planted as late as August
>>2840458why on earth would they weedwhack an intentional planting
Does anybody do aquaponics or hydroponics? I’m interested in trying a one tank system with floating raft in a 200g or so galvanized steel trough , with aerator and circulating pump. I get a few raccoons I’d need to protect the fish from. I’ve heard galvanized isn’t ideal, nor is single tank set up , but I’m willing to test it anyway. I’m interested mostly because I’m extremely tight on space and it may even use less water than a raised bed in similar sized container. If anyone does a raft system please share any advice.
>a bunch of tomato flowers bloom >a few tomatoes visibly growing on the truss>a bunch of little nubs that have clearly pollinated but haven't grown at all in several weeksAnyone experienced this? Will they grow eventually when conditions are more favorable?
>>2840577they probably think it's a weed since no sane person grows blackberries in a regular residental backyard
>>2840618>no sane person grows blackberries in a regular residental backyard
>>2840620keep that shit under control or your entire yard will be blackberries
>>2840624I grow clumping types, never had them send up suckers away from the plant. My raspberries and passion fruit on the other hand...
>>2840624>keep that shit under control or your entire yard will be blackberrieshaha, try goji berries on the otherhand...
>>2840488>but I've never heard of a castrated roosterCapon is the pinnacle of chicken, was/is a holiday delicacy in both in Europe and China.
>>2840624This is a good problem to have
What the fuck happened to my tomato stem and how do I save it?
>>2840740Bend it over into the soil so it roots at some nodes above the damage
>>2840740>What the fuck happened to my tomato stemMy first guess is that something's eaten at it, but frankly I have no idea.>how do I save it?I am not an expert, but in your position I would hill up some soil around the base of the stem, going above the damaged part (at least up to where that little shoot is coming out from, ideally a bit further) so that it can put out more roots above it.
Harvested my first cannabis today. Turned out real good
>>2840740Lookin like slug damage to me
>>2840828Looks like terple but less purple
The leaves on my pepper plant keep falling off and the flowers dry up right away after sprouting. This is only on some of the kinds of peppers some have had 40+ peppers on it while others have only had 0-2 or others with 7 or 8. They're all getting the same watering and sunlight. What could be going on?
>>2840851It sounds like some of your plants need more water than others
>>2840839Strain is Monster grown outside over the summer
>>2840769>>2840788I'm trying it, bros, but I think this plant is fucked. The damage goes all the way around the outer layer of the stem, which is where nutrients get transported. I feel so bad for this tomato plant, it was doomed from the start. Accidentally let it dry out when hardening it off before transplant and it got sunscald on half its leaves, then transplanted it and all the new growth got swarmed with leaf miners, and now I notice this big fucking chunk missing from the base of its stem. At least I have another one, and that one's doing really well besides some leaf miner damage.
>>2840870you could try rooting/growth hormone, it might be able to grow roots out from above the damaged area.
>>2840883I've bunched some soil up above that part of the stem, but in this container I can only add so much more soil. If a few new roots are going to have to do 100% of the work from now on.... I don't think he's gonna make it. I'll see what happens though
>>2840480I'll try these, thanks. >>2840511It's not me who is paying them so shrug. He's not willing to do any yardwork himself at all and lives in a neighborhood with an HOA.I think it's 150 a month too.>>2840618Very few things besides grass survive in this yard and even then I've had to reseed the grass twice. We've had some rodent chew through a palm tree killing it (wtf), a fence felled by wind killed a citrus tree, another tree exploded by lightning, and I forget how the 4th one died. Rose bush mysteriously fell over (and sprouted again so not dead), half of a pine tree wither, and a Eucalyptus tree die somehow also now that I'm thinking about it. This is all in a standard suburbia yard too.So something that is resilient like a weed is basically my last option here.
I don't even believe this so I will have to show you guys.Look at this persian limes, before/after I started using cash crop pest control adhesives to get rid of the mining larvae that was destroying their leaves.>BeforeBasically using insecticides to try and control the larvaes, every two weeks or so using either neem or cypermethrin and others, it held them back for a week or so but the moths came and put the mining larvae and started destroying new leaves every time.
Look how the leaves look now after only using the pest control adhesives, no insecticides at all, just the yellow tape with the glue that catches the pests.>After
I was even holding back cheering thinking it would be a false alarm and that the mining larvaes would attack again and damage the leaves.
Perfect leaves, just like a brand new plant.I have seen so many citrus here die because of these mining larvaes damaging them, both my tangerines and my limes look perfect now, all spotless leaves.
I got even some courage to plant some oranges now, Citrus sinensis.
Imperial orange.
The blue pest control trap is catching fruit flies and others.
>>2841225Went back there again to take another picture because the wind made the tape move so the image got screwed up.
And the back side, these weird mosquito-like flies with a pointed beak are all fruit flies.
what a weird ad
>>2840413should have planted them earlier. a month ago mine was the size of a grapefruit, now its over 5 kg and turning orange
Anyone else here do any perennial hybridizing/breeding? I grow and hybridize daylilies.https://www.instagram.com/jaymalick
Hello. When should I start harvesting my jalapenos? My mom got them from the store.So it was already like a three inch plant. I gave it more life
Sorry if this is the wrong thread. Could use y’all’s help>live in downtown of small college town, lucky enough to have a big backyard (1/8 - 1/5acre)>join “[State region] livestock keepers” Facebook group because want to get a chicken coop started>find a post about a free billy goat>chest freezer is empty, might as well>bring goat and tether to trees or cinder block so he doesn’t escape or eat my garden>couple morning later get visit from police>someone called a welfare check on the goat>probably my Airbnb host neighbor >tell him goat is going in the freezer and also show him around the backyard to show that goat is not being neglected>policeman says everything looks good according to municipal code and leaves >buddy that was going to help me butcher goat has something come up, need to hold on to goat a couple more days>other neighbors have only been curious about the goat, but I understand if they hate me now>ffw today butcher prep day>buddy comes over to talk over details (restraining goat, shooting, processing, etc)>everything is set up and he leaves >airbnb just neighbor comes out, phone recording and super confrontational , telling me that I have to humanely euthanize goat >says it’s illegal for me to butcher goat at home>put a complaint to the cityCan I really not butcher a goat in my backyard? I was going to take it to my buddy’s place outside of city limits anyway but now I’m curious. It’s for personal use, so I doubt I need some USDA certification. I think she was trying to scare me. Most laws I find regarding this are only in reference to commercial operations. This town is pretty outdoorsy, with waterfowl and deer hunting being popular. I figured I could process a goat in the same way I could process a deer or bear here. Any help would be appreciated. North Coast California for anyone interested
>>2841444Can u just adopt the goat anon and make him ur friend/pet instead of eating him? Desu
>>2841426Either when they reach their mature size and stop growing, or when they ripen and turn red. If you don't have immediate plans to cook with them, you might as well let them ripen and pick them then
>>2841445I thought about it after a day. He was some FFA kids goat so he is really nice and sociable for a 3 year old intact male goat. Thing is he gets whiny when left alone and I am trying to keep my neighbors in mind, so I can’t get him more goat friends. In the time that I got him till now I couldn’t secure someone to take him in so my original intention has become my last resort.
>>2841446Ty>>2841447Unless he becomes nasty or it's super expensive to keep him i would consider that option if u dont have any or many other let's if he's already socialized. Just play with him/pet him 2-3 times a day and keep him fed. Buy him some toys maybe. Maybe the neighbor could help? Idk. Life is amazing and unfair but also lovely sometimes Goodluck in whatever u decide
>>2840480Blackberry brambles are a super useful fence/deterrent for animals and intruders.I’ll just post up a fence and then let big stocks of transplanted bramble re-grow and eventually encompass the entire fence. Animals don’t like it and thieves will think twice. They are probably the 2nd most annoying and aggressive plant outside of bamboo, but at least bramble fruit and help local pollinators.
>>2841447>I am trying to keep my neighbors in mindYou mean the ones who got upset about you killing the goat?
>>2841460what about goji berries?
>>2841447You have to kill after your neighbors confronted you about it, if you don't that means they won
>>2841460>eventually encompass the entire fenceand then they'll encompass the yard, if your going to go through the trouble of growing something along your fence just use an actual crop like raspberries, grapes or domestic black berries
>>2841466Only the AirBnb host got upset. The others were thought it strange that I had a goat out of nowhere>>2841541I have the hide hanging (salted) right now as I type
>>2841546You MONSTER you've killed a beautiful innocent creature. If you just went to the supermarket and bought some lunchmeat then no animal would have needed to die ever. What you've done is ILLIGAL (maybe) and you'll be hearing from the cops shorty
Hi, guys. I'm interested in homesteading.Is it true that it takes 23 hours of hard work to stay alive and that it costs a trillion dollars just to plant a potato, so it's better to be a bitch wageslave for Shekelberg? The glowniggers on other 4chan boards said so, but idk.
>>2840740>>2840870Alright, this plant's not gonna make it. It's just getting yellower and yellower, not able to transport the nutrients up through that damaged stem. It's a shame because I grew 2 plants and this was meant to be my main tomato plant, sprouting 5 days earlier and starting out way healthier than the other one. I planted it in a 10 gallon bag and the smaller one in a 5 gallon bag, thinking this one would be the main star and the other would just be a "whatever happens, happens" companion plant tp see how the different container sizes affected things.Now I'll have to rip the plant up and try to transplant the other one from the 5 gallon bag to take its place, but I worry about moving that one now that it's bustling with flowers and forming fruits all over. Is it alright to transplant it once it's become so established and actively fruiting? I'd scream if I ended up killing this one too. The sooner the better, though, I guess
>>2840740Someone took a nibble.
pepper spider
>>2841678Cute little spidey. He's keeping it safe for you while it ripens
>>2841678Pepper protects spiderSpider protects pepperYou protect bothBeautiful really.
>>2841425That's a fun hobby, anon - I'd like to try something like that, someday. Do your flowers get a lot of attention from insects?
>>2841444Hey, a couple of things: Goats are herd animals, your goat needs a buddy if you're going to keep him as a pet Your neighbor is really uninformed. Euthanasia with barbiturates is actually really painful for dogs. We know heart attacks are really painful in humans, and this is what a veterinarian does. The dog's brain has enough glucose to keep conscious for a good minute or two after heart attack is induced. A bullet to the brain is instantaneous and painless. Make sure though to shoot it from a distance of at least 10" and into the base of the back of the skull. If you put the muzzle right up to the skull the bullet could explode in the chamber. Google it first. Barbiturates will also render the meat inedible so that's wasting the meat bad for the environment. The meat could feed a low income family for a month. Tell your neighbor.
>>2841444In my state you can butcher animals on your property as long as they are for personal consumption, or for direct sake to consumers from the farm. If you wanted to sell the meat at a grocery store or farmer's market then it would have to be butchered by a USDA processor. Call your state department of agriculture and ask.
>>2841784You could also sell him on Craigslist for $150. This time of year is breeding season and goat keepers are looking for Billy goats with different genetics to breed their does for the winter.
>>2841548I work ~13 hrs a day. But I like it. But I will need to get some remote computer work for the winter in order to pay for building materials.
>>2841781Barbiturates are literally sedatives.
>>2841800"Phenytoin/pentobarbital (trade name Beuthanasia-D Special) is an animal drug product used for euthanasia, which contains a mixture of phenytoin and pentobarbital."
>>2841546If you get the skull cleaned, you could sell it on Etsy for $300. The horns are nice.
>>2841801Yeah, and you're not going to have a painful heart attack if you're unconscious.
>>2841743They do! Especially hummingbird moths!
Picked 1/3 of the apple tree today.
>>2841850>that colorare those Cavendish type apples? I love Cavendish breeds, best apple smell ever!
>>2841583I was too much of a coward to rip up the plant and now I find that the first little cherry tomato that it grew is starting to ripen. It's not growing at all, so 100% of its energy must be going into this little fruit. With its dying breath, it'll see to the end the first bit of excitement it brought me with the first tomato that grew this season. And then I'll have to betray it and rip it out of the soil.It's a harsh world, bros
>>2841883I’m not sure honestly. They are supposed to be a dwarf McIntosh, however the tree is not a dwarf by any stretch so you know how it is. They’re tart but sweet. They eat well. They cook well. They can well. All around great apples.
I need a mix that can hold more moisture in triple digit heat, any tips?
It's not worth growing leafy greens. Have to carefully check each leaf to make sure you don't eat a caterpillar.
>don't worry about leaf miners, it's just cosmetic damageNow 90% of the leaves are damaged and the bottom ones are fucking white from all the tunnels. Gardening advice is ALWAYS WRONG. Only idiots give gardening advice
>>2842154Thanks for the gardening advice
>>2842102Aphids are extra protein anon
>third generation (saved seeds) of lettuce putting all my other plants to shame including the shiso mintMy delicious little friends
>>2841444Nooo you can't butcher le heckin goatDo muricans really think it's all sunshine and rainbows in the wild?
>>2841678Use detergent water
>>2842192why?
>>2842207To kill mites that cause my leaves to curlUse it lightly on just the leaves
Seriemas drinking my chickens water and eating their corn bran.
>>2840136I bought this weird plant called a black Current, clerk said it was getting it's fall coloring in but that turned out to be a fungal infection. Anyone know anything about them? how do they taste? I've heard their popular in Europe but I've never tried them personally
>>2842377you got a nice garden. what trees are you planting?>>2842377the taste would be sweet berry like. hard to describe really. normally you rarely see it sold fresh and when then only on a farmers market when it is in season, but syrup, jelly and sweets are more common.
>>2842377purple candy in the US = grapepurple candy in europe = black currantTheir flavor is hard to describe. Tart, tangy, kind of musky, kind of grape-y. Make sure whatever variety you have doesn't need a pollination partner, they're more picky than red/pink/white iirc
>>2841812Why don't you try it and let us know how it feels?
>>2842406>what trees are you planting?got an oak tree seeded with some Truffles, pretty sure that mice or moles have been eating them though >you got a nice gardenpretty much everything has been eaten down by rabbits, slugs or elk. turns out 4 foot plastic fencing isn't good for much. all I've really got left is rhubarb, a pumpkin and a few fenced vegetables
>>2842377There are a bunch of different currants: blackcurrant, redcurrant (including pink and white), green gooseberries (with red or purple sweet varieties), and some other random wild species. Red are used more for eating or cooking. Currants do pretty well and bear fruit in shady spots and are generally very small plants, good for a tight unideal space. Gooseberries are bigger and thorny bushes and need more light, and were massively trendy over a century ago in both Europe and America, similar to how figs are now. In the Western US the wild species fill the same role as elderberries along the shores of streams and rivers, and the bushes tend to be big. American golden currants are used as flower bush for landscaping in Eastern Europe and Russia, but have at least one named variety with improved fruit, the Crandall black.Imported European currant bushes were eradicated and banned in America for a long time in order to protect white pines as a source of lumber, since they spread rust. Now they are legal in most places, but there aren't necessarily American-made varieties that do well here. Gooseberries are a different story and have some nice cross-breeds with our local species. There's an oddball currant-gooseberry-wild species cross called jostaberries that are more productive, but they forsake some of the unique features of currants in the process like the size and shade tolerance.One of the most important improvements to European currants over the others is that the berries grow in clusters, sometimes very large ones, along spurs rather than directly on the branches. Some redcurrant varieties have massive picturesque clumps and are much simpler to harvest as a result. Pretty great.
>>2842420anyone else try their hand at giant pumpkins? lets see some pictures
>>2842422She looks mighty smashable
>>2842263I had never heard of seriamas. Thanks anon. Do you live in South America?
>>2842377they are tart, and there is a chance bush can smell like cat piss from time to time (so is boxwood)you should make jam or juice (usually people dont eat it raw, you will see why, it is not toxic, just fruit seems odd when is raw), dont be scared after your first touch with it, jam is way different than raw form, i hope you are not scared of sugar because you will need it to make currants tastier and preserve jam
>>2842428>Do you live in South America?Yes.They eat snakes, good to have around the house, but they eat eggs and small birds too so you have to watch out for them.Don't let them get too close to chickens.
>>2842407I have dozens of lazy vegan ladypiggies sitting motionless and lazily sucking at the extrafloral nectaries on my beans plants. Noticed a tomato plant is infested with aphids, so I moved them over. A few of them instantly got to work at least. Also first time seeing ladybug larva, and the white faced bug is an asian ladybug, I suppose.
>>2842496Didn't mean to reply to that post.
>>2842498I can't believe you've done this
>>2841888An update on this saga for those who are dying to know: the plant seems to be doing better now. It's even producing new fruit, and I can see new suckers growing to replace the main stem that shriveled up and ended itself. I think it will make it after all, at least to some extent, although it has a lot of catching up to do.
when do you guys move your nice plants back in the house? (i live in western ny and its starting to get chilly)
>>2843039I don't.if it survives it survives and if it doesn't then it gets planted next year
>>2843039bit before the first frost
-6C in the forecast for Monday. Might as well pick the last of my tomatoes this weekend.
>>2840136>>518065256Hi /HGH/Made a thread on /pol/ about gardening having its own board. There's so many facets to growing and gardening it would be nice to have a board where things can be broken up into generals and stickys. What do you all reckon? It's as vast a topic as cooking and they have their own board.
>>2843401you linked it wrong retard
Do you guys have any experience with cold-hardy nightshades like rocoto or the NA native physalis? Are any of them worth it? As I understand it, the larger fruiting kinds need much longer to develop which kind of negates the advantage of the early start in Spring. Someone has to have gone down this rabbithole before me though. Thoughts?
Picked the last of the beans I planted at the start of August after pulling my garlic. Pretty good haul from that planting. Prepped the garlic bed for planting which I'll do in about a week. I stocked up on compost in the spring so I was able to amend the garlic bed before planting. In the spring I had to pull off the straw mulch to add compost.
Spring has come but i feel no joy. Don't want to plant anything. Not enjoying the work. Depressed because I can't get a fair price for anything I grow, people don't even want to pay supermarket rates for organics, nobody wanted to help harvesting last year, massive labour shortage.
>>2843894>Spring has come????
>>2843921What is the Southern Hemisphere, Alex?
Fucking tree mice (dormice, say google)Previous years they were eating on an ornamental pomegranate tree, but they moved to the ones with good fruitsSometimes my cats catch them but it's not common