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#533- “beer stash” Edition

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>>2855132

janny pls…

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Talk about fishin
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you know about offset hooks? slightly bent hooks with the tip going outward so a fish would stab itself biting onto it instead of eventually laying flat like an inline hook would
old timers i know would only use these
so why is there no fly made with offsets hooks?
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>>2860513
Don't gear fags usually use offset hooks for live bait? When you are streamer fishing you will always have tension on the line when they fish hooks up so you get a good hookset.
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>>2860518
It's been traditionally used for livebait for centuries if not more yes, pretty sure gearfags use the rotating action Hook that was in the us army survival kit, it's the same concept but slightly more complicated and slightly less efficient
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>>2860471
My family's cabin has that same piece of shit sink/cabinet. The front is too wide, and the trim is so low that there is no room to get your feet in with shoes on. Thus, I must bend over to wash my hands as a tall person. I was just at the cabin today.
Anyway, I caught a dink brown, first fish of the year. The highlight, however, was riding on an iceberg. Fishing was not great because of the abundant icebergs, but it was really, really nice to get /out/. I was suffering from cabin fever, not having fished since Christmas pretty much.
>>2860513
>so why is there no fly made with offsets hooks?
I don't know about production flies, but I can tell you that Mustad makes an egg caddis offset hook. Google it, and click on fly fish food. They have some nice pictures.
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>>2860513
they don't work like you think for general fishing. sounds like you think they will "set themselves" and not get swallowed, but that's not the case. the only thing that comes close to "setting itself" when a fish bites it is extremely sharp thin wire hooks. they take very little contact to pierce. like an owner mosquito light hook. fish will swallow/not get hooked up on offset hooks just as easily if you don't use it for what it's designed for.
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Covid has permanently fucked fly fishing up. The influx of bored normies drove up fly rod prices and even now as these people are leaving the hobby big fly gear is still raising prices. 1600 for a rod and 180 for a fly line is absurd but I guess people are buying them. Even tfo is putting out 700 dollar fly rods now.
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>>2860597
pretty sure companies are fixing the prices and decided to exploit the fad rather than a supply and demand lie
i snatch second hand stuff on ebay and such, it can get very cheap
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>>2860597
Covid and the lockdowns played their pat. But it isn't an influx of new anglers that's causing price hikes. It's the massive government spending and associated inflation that's to blame. More money in circulation without an equal input of goods means all goods cost more. EVERYTHING is more expensive than it was pre covid, pre trillion dollar omnibus spending bills. For fuck's sake, gold is almost $5,000 and was up to $5,600 before the last week or two. Silver went from $20 to $100!!!!! While that's cool if you're holding those metals, for everyone else, it's a sign of how weak our currency is.
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Made another Smitty sled this year. This might be my favorite one so far
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>>2860617
Well said. I'm glad to find someone understands money in a place such as this.
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I caught it in the place I used to go with my dad...
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>>2860632
Does that perform differently than a normal sled?
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How would you fish this spot for bass? top water? even texas rig is pulling weeds.
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>>2860696
I fish a place with similar growth to that all the time. invest in some wakebaits, float'n ratltrap, or just keep a normal ratltrap(the smaller 1/8 size) high up in the water column so it doesn't snag the grass. you wanna keep it right over the grass that's underwater, maybe barely ticking the tops of it. you can do the same thing by slow rolling a lighter spinnerbait also. I just avoid throwing it in path of the floating vegetation. keep it in the open channels. the bass are usually under them anyways and strike when you go by it. if you also know where a dropoff is, where the underwater grass just stops, they usually ambush from that dropoff also. it can be frustrating t fish muck like that, but it's usually good fishing because fish love that shit. just use heavy enough line that you can yank your baits free if they get hung up. I like to use small ratltraps with small trebles like the 1/8oz I mentioned because you can usually pull them free if they really get hung in that shit by slowly and progressively pulling your line after sitting your rod down. bigger the hook, the harder it is to pull free. poppers or walking baits also work good but not that reliable if it's not warm out in my experience.
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>>2860696
i'd try a lure that don't need too much moving, like soft plastic caddis/may/stone-fly on a small jighead, crayfish and hellgrammites for bigger ones, nikko does all these
nightcrawler live lures work too
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>>2860696
Frogs, cast it onto one mat and swim it to the next mat. Hook points are on top so less of a chance you'll snag weeds. You could also try float-n-fly. Use a bobber to set your depth just above the weeds and tie on a jig and twitch it in.
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>>2860696
A super spook would probably do well there too.
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>>2860696
dinamite
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>>2860722
nta but in my country it's forbidden since 1891
i just boggle my mind that people would throw grenades into ponds to fish
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remind me what's the name of that good tieable titanium wire for leaders?
i want to use some livebait hooks that don't accommodate my 1mm thick fluorocarbon
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>>2860767
The "knot 2 kinky" stuff?
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>>2860768
sound like it yes, never used, would you recommend it?
i know pikes are as likely to bite my stuff as any other predator in my area so i need to be pike proof even going for bass
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>>2860770
Ive never used it for leaders but i like it for stinger hooks on flies. When i want tieable wire i use 49 strand braided steel wire. Rio is good, partridge seems good, and i imagine the afw option is decent too.
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>>2860690
Not particularly, but it fits in my van and holds my stuff and is nice to sit on once you're there.
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>>2860812
were did you get these orange rubber bands? i could need that
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>>2860770
I use beadalon for bite leader. It’s cheap and you can knot it ok but you will need to cut it off your fly most of the time because it’s hard to get off.
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Just got into trout/smallmouth/kokanee/catfish fishing a few months back. I'm new to all this and highly prone to asking some stupid questions seeking knowledge.

>What do I need to get into making a diverse set of freshwater rigs? Rings, split rings, sinker sliders, space beads/stoppers, what type of accessories do you suggest?
>How do you feel about snaps?
>What's your favorite fish to catch and favorite rig?
>Why would you not want to catch trout on a rod and reel capable of handling a big carp or catfish?
>What's your PB?
>Any general tips for someone learning it alone?
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>>2860813
They look like elastpr bands for castrating farm animals
>>2860841
Those are a lot of questions im probably going to have to wait till after work and address them individually
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>>2860848
Any help is greatly appreciated. Got sucked into the hobby by someone about as new that doesn't do their homework. I'm here after feeling like I tried to absorb too much too quickly.

I'll be ordering some tippets, sinker slides + bumpers, beads, swivels and coastlock snaps with the goal of prevailing rigs and "hotswapping" them with tippets I've built on. Going to go with mono or fleuro for leads but don't know if I'm going to use heavier duty mono/fleuro for the main line.
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>>2860841
>What do I need to get into making a diverse set of freshwater rigs?
>How do you feel about snaps?
assuming you don't have pikes or similar fishes that will need a specific bite resistant leader, start simple, splitshots are all you need, and assuming you use a spin reel you need swivels to prevent line twisting, they're often sold alongside snaps, i use them they're practical
>What's your favorite fish to catch and favorite rig?
pike, i catch them on jigheads with a soft plastic lure, it's just a lure attached with a snap to a leader attached with a swivel to a mainline, very simple
>Why would you not want to catch trout on a rod and reel capable of handling a big carp or catfish?
i suppose it's not impossible, people used to fish on bamboo rods with no modern characteristics, but now modern rods are made to be able to throw lures in a specific weight range, your 30-60g carp rod won't throw your 5g trout lure properly and a light 4-18g rod will break on a 40g lure, also some techniques will prefer a lighter whippy rod and more importantly a carp rod might not be able to feel a subtle trout bite
right tool for the right job kind of thing
>What's your PB?
110cm (43.3 in) pike
>Any general tips for someone learning it alone?
try things, keep it simple, the correct order for thinking a rig is target fish>lure>line>rod, there's lures for fish and there's lures for fishermen so don't get fooled
assuming you don't have any line cutting predator alongside the fish you mentioned you could probably get away with a 15 to 20lb mono line, a reel with the appropriate drag for it, and a single medium rod, might just need a bit of smaller line to make trout leaders
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>>2860841
>>2860871
>what do i need for diverse rigging
You can do a lot with swivels, knots, beads, and a selection of monofilament
Snaps have a time and place, i don't use them much outside of ice fishing.
>favorite fish/favorite rig
Thats a hard one. Im just going to give a few rigs that i like
>carolina/fish finder rig
>dropshot and dropper loop rigs
>simple float rig, slip float rig- both with bait or jigs
>just a splitshot and a hook
>texas rig
>just a lure tied straight on
Bass, bluegill, lake run trout, esox, catfish, rough fish
>not want catch trout on overly heavy gear
Fun, mostly. Its more fun to fight a fish than to winch it in. Thats not to say i don't use relatively heavy gear myself but i also dont winch 8 inch brook trout on 65 pound braid on an extra heavy rod.
>advice for a newbie
Dont get too complicated. Simple stuff works great.
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>>2860876
>>2860885
Thank you both very much, you've given me directions to go in. Actually caught my first trout on a Carolina rig no more than 2 hours after knotting it in as my lead with Palomar knots. I'd gone fishing all day once a week for the past two months prior. Will post how my trip goes next sunday.

I don't know if I'm fucking up fundamentally, but I bought spoons, daggers, weights, beads, sinker slides, split rings, tippets and general "low intricacy to produce" materials off Temu since I refuse to believe a tiny stamped metal spoon to be worth over a dollar a pop off of a shelf. I wouldn't trust anything that requires assembly, moving parts or fine tuning though.
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>>2860891
don't hesitate to keep leftover line pieces to practice various knots, check out https://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots
palomar is great but i don't like it and it suck to do on thicker lines, uni and it's variants are my go to, best knots for most connections are improved uni (also called fish N foll knot) and trilene knot
also topology will help you a lot, fishes like to hide, some like shade too, predators will be near preys, locate underwater roots, dropoffs, surface plants and grass patches, pockets of calm water nearing fast waters in rivers, etc
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>>2860891
You should try inline spinners. Almost anything will hit it
Simple to tie up just a swivel on the mainline and your spinner on a 1-2 foot leader.
There are a lot of good styles. I like the thomas special spin and panther martins particularly but mepps and rooster tail are in my box too
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>>2860891
i second anon on inline spinners, but once you're confident, soft plastic lures for jigheads/texas/carolina rigs will cover everything
if you want to try something else after that livebait will do, and rigs are even more simple
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>>2860813
Skids right >>2860848 they're sheep castration bands. Mega handy, especially if you have the tool that stretches them out. Easily one of my favourite tinkering bits. Make great retainers and seals.
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>>2860908
would you say it work well to old a reel? i have one of these old rods that use metal rings to hold the reel on the cork handle and one is missing so i need another solution
>inb4 replace it
can't it's old enough to be handcrafted and don't fit any standards, i've tried
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>>2860909
People use them that way all the time, I'm basically slowly rebuilding all my rods with wood Tennessee grips and bands for the reel. Only issue is they will for sure make grooves in the cork. They're crazy strong. The band's themselves are like 5$ for 100 on Amazon, and even cheaper if you have a farm supply store local. just pick up a box and try them yourself.
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>>2860508
Why do fishing threads have the best girls on this site?
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>>2860976
cool, saw these for cheap on ebay with the tool for it, thanks for the tip
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I got into fishing late last year due to my son's sudden interest in it. I bought cheap stuff just in case we dropped it, but we both really took to it and I'm ready to get back out there

I have a 7' Ugly Stik I got on clearance paired with a Shimano Sienna. It's been good, but I want a step up on the reel

I'm thinking a Daiwa or Shimano <$100, but even that narrow criteria is still pretty overwhelming. Any suggestions? Mostly going to target panfish and bass.
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>>2860979
Honestly with those brands, budget, and intent of use, its going to be really hard to go wrong. A 2500 or 3000 size reel will be a good size, and you can honestly just pick based on aesthetics and youll be fine.
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>>2860979
on the cheap size i got an okuma alaris ALS-30 for 40euros last summer, been pleasantly surprised, maybe i'm biased because i'm used to use old gear but still
big brands reels are usually fine and will fit most applications in the 3000 size, they're all in a similar gear ratio, so i mostly look at drag limit when choosing
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>>2860979
upgrade the rod first, get a daiwa aird-x
after thatget a daiwa revros
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>>2860979
just get the nasci fc 2500. it's the best $100 reel and it's not even close, and I don't even own one.
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>>2860977
This one is old with fake hair, but at least she doesn't have fake tits and is holding a fish she didn't catch. I am disgusted to think of the conversation between a cuck and his girlfriend or wife: "Babe, would you hold this fish that I caught? I know you think fish slime is gross, but how much worse is it than getting covered in cum, like you do every night? No, I'm not calling you disgusting for getting covered in cum. It's just that I want to post your picture online so a bunch of bored guys scrolling Facebook at work will be turned on by you."
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>>2861047
get yourself checked weirdo
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>>2860979
I recommend a 2000 or 2500 Regal. I sell tons of them. It has always been a great price to performance reel.
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>>2860841
For catfishing it all depends the spot, the time, and bait more so then the rig IMO. I usually start with a basic bottom rig with sinker slides with shad (FRESH), cutbait,live bluegill (flatheads), or chicken liver soaked in garlic powder (if I don't have time to catch bait). If I'm getting hung up I will switch to a 3 way rig or use a snag resistant weight to save my sanity.

Your asking about a lot of species i'd say try to target them when it's optimal. For example I would not be going for bass in the winter unless I had a boat and knew the area. I'd rather just save the headache and go for something more active in the cold like trout.

>Any general tips for someone learning alone
Talk to the people who seem like they know what they are doing at a new spot. Usually I base what I am doing off of the locals. Just don't be a dick/autistic and actually hold a conversation. You will find yourself paying it forward I assure you.
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>>2860980
>>2860981
>>2861019
>>2861023
>>2861059
Thanks guys. I've been eyeing a Regal LT because it's a good price, has the features I want, and looks sick as hell. Think I'll grab a 2500 the next time it's on sale.
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>>2861134
and don't forget to also get nice things for your son
i still cherish to this day the first rod and reel my uncle gifted me when i started
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>>2861155
No problem there. I got him an ok budget combo rod and reel from Daiwa last year, but what he loves most are lures (pretty sure that's what is sustaining his interest rn), so after Christmas I picked him up a Strike King advent calendar for $5 on clearance, plus a lure making kit (he's 7yo) as we both love to watch Marling Baits make lures on Youtube

We'll be breaking those out come March
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>>2861134
Maybe, this is because my knowledge is mostly from a small sporting goods store, but I would never wait long for a sale in this day and age. Prices have stabilized since tariffs, but inflation is still around. You can expect good deals in March and April and Black Friday. Never wait long for a good deal because your item may go up or out-of-stock.
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>>2861134
Yup thats a good choice
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>>2861134
sahara fj or nasci fc have way more engineering features for the price. by any means buy whichever you like, but daiwa has done some fuckery lately on their lt reels, just changing the color scheme every couple of years and acting like it's a new reel with more features and upping the price by $20 for each tier. you don't even get direct thread handle below Exceler LT and that is just a legalis LT with direct thread handle thus not worth $100+
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I have a Fuego and nasci 1000 size, each for about a year now
The nasci still feels new and the Fuego is not feeling as smooth as out of the box.
I'm sure it'll be fine after oiling and greasing, but the "mag seal" really didn't do shit for my normal freshwater fishing
No anti reverse on the shimanos is lame yho
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>>2861047
Virtually nobody that posts pics like that thinks of it as cucked. From their perspective they're cucking everybody else by being the one that gets to fuck her.
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>>2861184
anti-reverse switch is a main spot for water intrusion as well as being another part to break, that's why lots of reels don't have it. but yeah, shimanos feel like new even after years as long as you don't abuse them in retarded ways. I prefer Daiwa for baitcasters but shimano is just at the top for spinning. the daiwa lt spinning reels are good reels don't get me wrong, but there is not much difference at all from revros/regal, legalis, exceler, and fuego. they have gotten a lot of shit lately for choosing to have a stupid lineup like that with very little distinction other than color and an extra bearing/screw on handle/mag seal..
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>>2861221
daiwa braking on baitcasters is unmatched
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>>2861212
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>>2861294
This recent obsession with cuckoldry is confined to pretty limited parts of the internet. Most people don't even think of that. Guys have had trophy wives and so on forever and that was never what it was about. I myself had a GF for years who had a big internet following (despite only ever posing modest cosplay) and it never even crossed my mind to think of it in any terms other than "haha losers you're fapping to the girl I fuck." Other guys I know who do have girlfriends/wives that wear slutty cosplay also seem to have the same attitude too.
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>>2861294
your brain was been rotted by the internet if you're so distanced from your fellow man that you don't understand why pics like that are taken and shared
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>>2861233
I won a Curado XG, but I have an opportunity to swap it out for an HG. I already have one. Should I do so?
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>>2860508
Sorry I been MIA been working still miss you guys! Hope all is well with you fellers! I'm try and lose some bait for Monday
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>>2861339
talking about gear ratios? higher speed is better for things like finesse fishing where you want to quickly set a hook. it will require more strength to reel in a fish though. slower ratio is better for techniques like crankbaits and spinnerbaits that you are steady retrieving and put a lot of strain on the reel's gears. also easier to turn and those baits have resistance. middle speed like hg is a good "do-all" but I don't recommend them for high resistance baits like spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, and medium/deep crankbaits because you want the power of a lower gear ratio both for your muscles and less train on the reel's gears.
tl;dr
xg for soft plastic fishing where you set the hook
hg general mix of hardbaits and soft plastic fishing
however... if you are a sperg who always fishes everything too fast like me, get the hg, it will help slow you down.
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>>2861339
whats the difference?
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>>2860508
Wouldn't it be painful to have an ice cold beer resting against your pussy?
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>>2861359
HG is ~7 gear ratio. XG is ~8 gear ratio.
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>>2861383
Not as painful as resting an ice cold beer against your balls
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guys i think i figured out something
you don't need that sweet 1k dollars daiwa or shimano
you need that reliable 30 dollars second hand 60's full metal reel that's made to be serviceable and outlive you and your children if properly maintained
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>>2861389
i can't see a reason for anything above 7
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>>2861397
Get yourself a shimano stradic, solid aluminum body and properly sealed. I've abused the fuck out of mine in saltwater and it's still buttery smooth. I wipe it clean with a damp microfiber cloth after every session and lightly oil it just once per season.
Sure it's a bit pricy but it will last you a lifetime with proper maintenance
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>>2861403
Neither can I, do I think I will swap.
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>>2861403
like I posted earlier, dedicated finesse fishing setup. takes the slack out of the line quicker. that's really it. not like a medium speed isn't "fast enough" but faster is better for that.
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I got my monthly Smitty's box in the mail last week. But I've been in a bit of pain, so I just got around to opening it and tying the patterns. This month's beginner pattern is a mop fly. This is a super simple pattern. You're just tying in the mop and a dubbed thorax. Included materials: size 10 nymph hooks, 4mm tungsten beads, 6/0 uni thread in black, brown and chartreuse mop and black ice dubbing.
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>>2861431
The intermediate pattern the Smitty's Bug-e-nymph. It's a fairly simple pattern. A hare's ear with a full body wing case and legs. Materials included: size 14 rolling stone hooks, 2.4mm brass beads, 8/0 uni thread in brown, small copper wire, black crystal flash, a pheasant tail, callibaetis dry fly dubbing and brown/olive ice dubbing
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>>2861431
So, I tied all of the chartreuse and the first brown with way way to big of thorax sections. I was burning through the ice dubbing and thinking, I must be doing something wrong. So I watched their video and noticed they were tying in the mop much closer to the bead. So, with that change, the last three used a much more reasonable amount of dubbing. Aside from that error on my part, it's a super simple pattern. I haven't fished any mop flies yet. But I've always thought they looked great. So I'm excited to try these out the next time I'm out fishing!
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>>2861433
I like this pattern. It's much larger than my usual hare's ears. It's got a nice buggy profile. I think it's going to be a good addition to my nymph collection. No issues with this month's pheasant tail. It tied in nicely and wasn't brittle at all.
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>>2861435
Oh, one modification I made on the four on the right, they have 2.8mm tungsten beads from my personal materials.

I just bought some size 8 and 10 jig hooks and 4mm slotted tungsten beads to tie up some mini/euro buggers. I'll tie those up in a couple days.
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>>2860674
Late reply, but nice.
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Fly bros does anyone have the pattern for the sloopy droopy. I can’t find any links that are still working this seems to be a true boomer fly.
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So excited for another year of trout not biting literally everything I try for multiple days until there's nothing left to catch.
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>>2861434
I can see why you tied a big thorax, though. The hook is too long. A little bit of a curve would be nice too.
I've been tying Mayer’s Mini Leech jigs. When they cost $5 each and with how simple they are to tie, buying them simply isn't reasonable. I fish those flies all the time. I just got some new beads the other day, so now, I'm tying different body colors.
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bass jigs
do the jighead types really matter all that much
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what grease to you guys recommend for reels?
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First time making a spoon. my next post will be with a fish on the end of this
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>>2861494
is that an hammered beer can?
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Half a driveway marker turned down for the rod portion. Need to make some wire guides and it's ready for burbot.
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>>2861497
Yeah it's a cap from a japanese beer. I pinched it flat on one side and slightly wider on the other side to hopefully get good action. I'll be devastated if I lose it in a snag before catching a fish. Picrel is a tilapia I caught on a spoon last year
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>>2861503
Would love to see that with a fish on the end of it. What's the handle from
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>>2861503
i'd like to know about the handle too, i might buy one of these old steel rods from ebay or the like and put it on it
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WOOP!!
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>>2861488
The only thing about jig heads that matters is how they secure the bait. Screw lock, wire keeper, or a little notch. I rank them in that order, and for really soft soft plastics, like Keitech, the little notch won't work. I haven't tried wire, but I know screw locks work great.
>>2861515
Fugly.
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>>2861492
I've used Penn for the last few years but want to try something else because it seems really viscous, therefore you want to aplly it VERY lightly to avoid resistance in winter temps. I assume the viscosity is a good thing for saltwater intrusion though.
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>>2861523
never had any issues with securing plastics on any of them really
more curious about performance with various types of structure
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>>2861492
ardent makes good stuff
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>>2861474
Yeah, I have some hooks I think would look better. 50° bend jig hooks with wide gap. I've got them in size 8, 10, 14, 16 and 18. Next time I visit this pattern, I'll use those.
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>>2861507
>>2861508
It's a turned down part of an old broomstick, not an off the shelf part. I would much rather make wood handles from literally free garbage than pay 30$ each for cork rings or blanks.
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>>2861547
Turning wood on a metal lathe is based.
Ever consoder making a rest to put in the tool holder tp use gouges and chisels and other conventional wood turning tools?
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>>2861434
>>2861474
Yeah i like scud hooks for mops personally
>>2861435
Those look like theyd be good as the first fly on a double nymph rig
>>2861442
Looks like a deceiver to me
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do you guys have any experience with old mitchells?
i got a 306 mint condition, later one, probably 70s, one of the models without the planamatic gear
do you guys know if the frame is the exact same and if i can swap out gears for planamatic ones?
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>>2861574
found a plan that clarify it, i got a model with the crosswind disk, i know the motion isn't the same, my uncle used to have a 308 with the planamatic gear
look like i can swap parts but if someone got firsthand experience that would be great
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>>2861578
I have a 407, same thing but high speed right hand, with the planomatic. They ditched the planomatic gear train because people fucking hated it, lots of people fabricated simple crosswind blocks for the earlier models because they wanted a simpler, more robust system. The planomatic doesn't lay line particularly well anyways. No idea about swapping but seems very possible. Only issue is you need to buy a whole separate reel just to get that one part.

>>2861563
I have done lots of wood turning freehand, I much prefer "machining" it with nice straight lines and sharp edges
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>>2861603
>because people fucking hated it
first time i hear of it, my uncle loved these, the gears supposedly do wear over time but the shaft movement doesn't work as much as the main gear so i don't see how it could become a failure point, as for the lay line i've heard it's better for small lines but worse for thick lines, anyway i know a guy that sell spare parts, i suppose for a few bucks i might as well try
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>>2861547
Are you sure your reel is going to stay put once you have a fish on? Idk what the orange part attaching it is but maybe you need something like picrel?
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>>2861611
I think those are castration bands. They stay in place really well. Rubber bands (not the office supply) are the preferred reel seat on ice rods.
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>>2861612
I have no doubt they'll hold it snug from forces that pull it perpendicular to the rod, but there's a large force parallel to the rod when you hook a fish. You can minimize it your rod, but that's probably not as easy with a driveway marker.

You'd want some kind of stopper between it and the tip of the rod, even just a nail or screw
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>>2861606
It's much more fragile than a solid crosswind block. The 306 was a large reel meant for big fish, the planomatic fragility plus the shit ass drag of the 306 (compared to the multi component 302) means a lot of people would have seen sheared gears after big fights with drags locked down. I have a hard time loving the 306 specifically because of how poorly matched the drag is to the size of the reel.

>>2861611
I'm pretty sure. If I was worried I'd just put a commercial reel seat on.
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>>2861614
You're over thinking it, and you have no idea how fucking strong these bands are.

I'm using MAX 10lb line with 2-3lbs of drag on any kind of ice setup even if I'm horsing in pike or lake trout. The bands are a perfect elegant solution I don't need to fuck up the handle with nails or pipe clamps.
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Caught this fish today. I might update with a length later (need to measure my rod).
The weather has been weird. We got lots of snow early, which melted. I got a late start on fishing, and by fishing, I mean mostly driving around, literally in a circle (long-story). On my third time going down this road, I found a tree fell in the middle. I just barely made it by without going off a cliff.
Anyway, I only got in the water with an hour of light left, if not less. I got a couple eats but couldn't connect, and then, I got pic rel. It was fun. Glad I wasn't skunked.
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>>2861621
>Harder

Nice fish
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>>2861615
>means a lot of people would have seen sheared gears after big fights
are you sure you're not mistaking main gear and planetary one? on the 400 series usually the planetary thing itself is fine but it's the main/pinion gear that shear over time because it got a higher ratio for the same size, so inevitably more teeth, which are inevitably smaller, which make them inevitably weaker structurally
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Thinking of ordering circle hooks in bulk from Amazon. What size here would you guys say is closest to a real standard issue 1/0?
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Glad the invasive species in Florida got kicked in the balls.
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>>2861624
You need to remember the era of these reels, these are boomers we're talking about, and these reels were surf casters in direct competition, though always understood to be at a lesser tier, with the penn Greenies which have a reputation for being bomb proof. I don't think you or I gently using these reels as fun relics are going to have the same problem as those guys, but yes specifically people damaged the planetary gears. I wasn't around in those days, whether or not that reputation is justified I have no idea, but that is a talking point among current day vintage Mitchell users.

>>2861626
If you're ordering in bulk I would assume it's because you use a lot of them, so measure one of the ones you have and get a comparable one. If you don't use them already, you're just shopping for a dopamine hit and the size of the hook doesn't matter
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>>2861622
I know. Try lubing up a Smart Water bottle and gripping it while full of water.
Fish was 14 inches. I'm going to try fishing beetles for brook trout today, at least for a little while.
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>>2861603
Fair enough, do what you prefer.
>>2861611
Those elastor bands hold tighter than you think
>>2861626
Hook sizes are made up and 1/0 doesnt mean anything even within the same brand- gamakatsu makes a c14s glowbug hook and its size 4 is nothing like a soze 4 gamakatsu b10s. Look at pics like youve got posted and send it by eye.
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>>2861631
mexicans?
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do you guys have something specific for reel storage and transport? trying to organize my stuff
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Now THAT's a better opening pic. Caught some sweet flathead off the bar at Noosa using blue pilchards, worked out to just under a kilo of meat after filleting. My summer has just started because I've been working interstate but for a first trip out on the boat it's a good omen for the next couple months.
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>>2861661
lol
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>>2861661
As somebody from the west coast, can confirm they do more damage to wildlife and bank erosion than anything else.
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Done. Now I just need to stay up all night jigging a 2oz spoon hoping I can get a tug on it.

Turned out a little heavier action than I was aiming for, but there's less than 5$ of materials in it so I can do another if I hate it.
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>>2861756
What's that green thing at the first eyelet?
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>>2861756
did you make the ligature yourself? i want to do the same, some use varnish some use resin and i'm confused which way to go
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>>2861758
Craft bead to stop the line pulling through. I used line tension on the rod to hold the blank into the handle while the glue was drying.

>>2861772
Yes, it's literally just sewing thread wrapped around a bunch and coated with helmsman at the same time I varnished the whole blank so I don't get fiberglass slivers. You don't get the nice glossy high build of resin but it holds great. I did not do nice careful aesthetic wrapping I just went back and forth over it until the guides held super solid.
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>>2861775
i got a bunch of bamboo rods drying since last summer in a barn, i'll try doing three pieces using the traditional korean method (filing the inside of the bottom part and the outside of top part successively untill one fit into the other)
any sewing thread will do? probably need some specific varnish for the bamboo tho
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>>2861776
Any sewing thread can work but if you get proper rod building thread from fuji or pac bay it will hold colour better over time. U.V. light is hard on dye.
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>>2861778
well if the price difference is only justified by the dye then i'll go for the cheap option
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>>2861729
Very true.
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>>2861779
The fiber material is different too im pretty sure the "real" thread is nylon or similar synthetic but yeah no it doesnt actually matter
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>>2861834
i checked and it's all polyester yeah
i hate all that synthetic shit everywhere
i got myself a piece of wool felt to make washer/joints for old pieces of equipment that had them and it was extremely annoying to find something that wasn't fully or partly polyester
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How often do you guys fish hard? I'm talking about being out for a full day focused on fishing, no drinking and sitting around.
I feel like I've been slacking in my fishing. Sure, it's just a hobby, and one can do what they want, but I'd like to be more productive with my time.
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>>2861860
the last couple years i've really amped it up, i got sick and tired of getting skunked and started focusing a lot more, keeping journals, etc
not necessarily spending 14 hours days but making sure the time out is well focused and not wasted, i've improved a lot and its been worth it, rarely get skunked anymore
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>>2861860
i usually fish light and not far from home, so i don't bring a cooler and fish untill i get a keeping size fish and then maybe an hour more tops after that
i'm considering buying sardines to deadbait for pike and shit down a bit for once
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>>2861860
I don't drink and I exclusively kayak fish so every time I go out I stay for at least 5 hours or so. Almost every weekend so 3-4 times a month.
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>>2861860
Every time I go out but I also drink fairly heavy as well. Me and my buddy will bring a yeti with whiskey in it but we don’t stop fishing.
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>>2861860
Much less with 2 kids. Every chance is precious.

>>2861776
I doubt bamboo calls for special varnish, outside of historical accuracy autism. Realistically any sewing thread will do but I prefer the ones on the heavier side, cheap shit frays and snaps too easy pulling knots.

>>2861756
I changed my mind it's perfect
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>>2861905
yeah i've read a bit and settled for normal marine varnish, anyway bamboo is supposed to take months to dry so i got time
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Best live bait for fly fishing? Been wanting to try it out.
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>>2862027
i don't think i've seen anyone use anything but artificial flies
but i suppose you could grab a grasshopper or a beetle and put it on a hook
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Anyone going to opening day for trout parks?
Supposed to be really shitty out so hopefully it's not as slammed as usual.
Probably just gonna use powerbait/marshmallows and some jigs.
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>>2862027
I would use a piece of nightcrawler. Nightcrawlers are my favorite and practically only bait, but I haven't tried them on a fly rod. I've messed around by trying to use a real caddis a couple times, but my flies work better. Nightcrawler is the only thing I'd have confidence in across a broad spectrum of species, unless we are talking about catfishing or saltwater.
>>2862076
No. I wouldn't go to one of those places, and if I did, I would never go opening day. When one guy I met was describing them with enthusiasm, I felt nothing but contempt.
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Tied up some mini bugger jigs. Size 8 and 10.
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>>2862078
Most trout in my state are stocked and 80% die within 2 weeks of release.
If i'm going for sport I go to the very few places they naturally reproduce and use a fly rod and release so I don't kill the population.
If I want to eat I pay $5 and limit out baitfishing.
I get what you mean but it's good for my friends who don't really fish
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>>2862127
not to mention stocked fish are genetic abominations. it's like a McDonalds "quality beef" burger, might aswell eat it.
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>>2862080
Different color pattern.

>>2862145
I suppose it depends on the quality of your hatcheries. Here in northern California, our hatchery rainbows/steelhead and salmon are very robust. The eggs are taken from local wild stock, manually fertilized, hatched, raised and released. I'm sure it helps that this is where they occur naturally.
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>>2862149
>>2862080
Those look good. Id personally probably try to get a little denser collar right behind the nead but thats just personal preference, those should fish great.
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>>2862127
>80% die within 2 weeks of release.
wtf, why?
do they starve or is it from pollution? what's the point of stocking if everything die off
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>>2862145
are you just assuming this is true because the process is artificial?

it's pretty normal stuff, anon. in every state i've lived in the broodstock has come from outside the hatchery, either native fish or stocked fish that survived from the previous year. the only "trick" behind a hatchery is that they can provide a controlled environment so that 99% of those thousands of eggs per female survive instead of 0.1%.

the reason anglers say they act stupid is that in the past they were conditioned to have bad habits. specifically they were fed in such large groups that they learned to stick near the surface and strike everything as fast as possible because the competition was so fierce. this + a lack of predator fear meant they were much less cautious than wild trout. but even back in the 90s and 00s this was being corrected.
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>>2862180
It's due to a couple of factors.
Very easy pickings for the first couple weeks like anon said >>2862188 because they have to adapt
Side note: You can exploit this by using rainbow trout colored lures to get big smallies downstream of hatcheries.

Fishing pressure is huge I've heard and seen many people quadrupling their bag limit.
Mostly the amish after they dig through the gutting station for powerbait.
Water quality is also a problem in some places or flooding.

The main point of releasing so many is that it ensures they don't completely die off, provide opportunities for the native fish to feed, and for sport.
It's better that they die in such numbers because they are invasive in many places.
If you live in a state where they stock a good chunk of your license fee goes to this.

>>2862145
Completely untrue in regards to the safety of the meat they sample as well as strictly control what they eat and live in.
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>>2862196
sound like feeding the crayfishes with extra steps
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>>2862196
>Fishing pressure is huge I've heard and seen many people quadrupling their bag limit.
>Mostly the amish after they dig through the gutting station for powerbait.
You're telling me that the Amish will break the law? That sounds unreasonable. The Amish may not be pleasant to the English, but I have never known them to break the law.
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>>2862188
I've seen plenty of stocked trout that look like they would try to kill sigourney weaver
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Crappie bite is slow, but the sizes are good.
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Was hoping there would be sufficient cold to get one more weekend of ice fishing. It doesnt seem that will be thr case. I guess im going to swing streamers on saturday.
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>>2862274
We’ve got 30 inches of ice, but we’re probably going to lose all our snow pack next week.
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How do baitcaster guys get over the fear of birdsnesting? I've been fishing long enough to be proficient with spinning reels, but still get wind knot PTSD from when I first started. I'm thinking of joining the baitcaster race but I don't think I'm mentally prepared to deal with birds nests
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>>2862322
I got over my birdsnest issues by getting and fixing a bunch of birdsnests. I also almost exclusively use braid on baitcasters, its easier to get birds nests out of braid
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>>2862322
You stop getting birdsnests once you git gud. The only time you will ever have a birdsnest after that is if you get lazy and do something stupid like clip something as you cast. Situational awareness prevents birdsnests. You can also greatly reduce the chances if you get something with really good braking systems, but obviously that comes at a cost. I've actually switched over to using 75% baitcasters now. I only really use spinning for ultralight stuff. I'll probably go bfs at some point.
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>>2862337
>I'll probably go bfs at some point.
I'd like to try it but bfs reels seem pricey
I fish a lot of inline spinners, would there even be a benefit using BC reels for smaller hard baits?
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>>2862338
you have to get a more finesse style baitcaster in order to properly throw anything under 3/8oz. not pure bfs, but shallow/light spool models like 70 size. cheapest one would be a shimano slx mgl 70 I believe. I have a tatula sv 70 and exclusively throw 1/4oz hardbaits on it. on a normal baitcaster, you will only get a few yards at best throwing something that light, and that's only if you really have the brakes low, which requires a very experienced thumb. if you just want to learn baitcaster and don't want to spend much, I'd suggest just getting a "normal" sized baitcaster and throwing baits around the 1/2oz and heavier mark. it's far easier and doesn't require you to spend $150+. there are budget bfs reels from china but I can't recommend them having no personal experience with them, inline spinners are more bfs territory. the way I started out with baitcasters is just having a "big bait" exclusive setup for targeting bass. things like 1/2oz bass spinners, heavier topwater lures, etc. it's much easier to learn that way. lighter lures are heavily gear dependent and require higher skill also.
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>>2862337
>>2862338
BFS is definitely fun, but make sure you get a good rod. I didn't. The one I got makes fishing for longer than 30 minutes uncomfortable. Also, don't not try to look for low gear ratio reels. High gear ratio is fun and effective.
If I got another bfs rod, it'd have to be in the style of the Megabass Huntsman, but there's no way I'm paying that much.
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>>2862322
Practice. Simple as that
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>>2862338
The piscifun spark pro is almost bfs, i use it to throw ned rigs on 20lb briad and a mono leader a lot, as well as inline spinners and small jerkbaits
>>2862342
Yup this. The first step to being good at something is to suck at something.
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>>2862347
20 lb is way to heavy for bfs by all definitions. 20 lb is what I use on my normal baitcaster.
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>>2862349
braid is limp enough where diameter doesn't matter
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>>2862349
>ITT anon isnt familiar with the word "almost"
Its not a bfs reel. Its almost a bfs reel, it handles lighter presentations a lot better than my shimano slx or my diawa reel which cost more than double, but it is a regular baitcaster.

>20lb braid is too heavy for bfs
Sure you can get better performance out of lightwr line but 20lb braid will still out cast 6lb mono, amd 6lb mono is absolutely suitable BFS line. My ultra lightest trout rod has 15 pound braid and i can dtill tgrow a 1/16 oz jig farther than my buddy with his noodle rod and 4lb mono and when i accudentally hook a 3lb bass crappie fishing my weak point is usually the hook not my line. Throwing a trd on a 1/10 oz jig and a medium light rod it feels great.
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Pier fishing anon here. Thoughts on this rig setup? Last time I was in FL, it didn't occur to me that switching over to a float rig would alleviate my problem with snagging in the reef every other cast. Still trying to found out which oz egg sinker to use for the floats as pictured- something heavy enough to give me casting distance and to keep the leader submerged, but not too heavy that it makes the float sink.
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>>2862394
what are you fishing for with what kind of bait? look over complicated
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>>2862396
Saltwater fish along the atlantic east coast using mostly squid and some shrimp (dead) here and there. Hoping to catch bigger fish like reds and snappers but this time without getting snagged on coral
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>supposed to be on an Eelpout ice fishing mission
>waiting for a strep test at urgent care instead.
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>>2862398
i'd do a rig like picrel, with one of these floats that attack on the bottom of it instead of inline
now i checked online and your rod got a 2-6oz cast weight, which is heavy, so you want a 2oz sinker, that + bait weight will be enough
now you need to find a float with 3-4oz buoyancy
also you probably need a fluorocarbon leader as well, don't snapper have teeth?
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>>2862424
Been watching marks on the vexi since just before sunset. No takers so far.
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>>2862394
I think you need more snap swivels bro
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>>2862460
No out last night, no trout today. Still worth doing though.
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Local independent tackle shop put this ice rod on sale at 50% off, so I said fuck it. Paired it with a Shimano Sienna 500 I picked up at Fleet Farm earlier in the year. Doubt I'll get to use it till next season, but I'm feeling pretty good for having less than $100 invested so far. Now the big question: Are my warm weather crappie jigs appropriate for ice, or do I need to start collecting tungsten stuff?
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mic check
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>>2862495
You can use the regular stuff, but the tungsten is nice because it makes a better return on the flasher, sinks harder, and you often need to downsize to get a shy bite to commit.
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>>2862495
>>2862499
Tungsten is way better than lead performance wise in certain situations. The two applications I'm certain this is true for are ice fishing and fly fishing. Tungsten is so much denser than lead. Thus, you can get your bait down where it needs to be without adding a ton of bulk. This also means less time with a slack line. But when we're talking about a 3 inch soft plastic, bulk doesn't matter, and with how they're designed currently, a lead jig can complement the plastic nicely.
This doesn't mean you can't use your lead crappie jigs, but tungsten is definitely better.
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Had an interesting day on the ice today. Got out for 10 am, just as the ministry was pulling up to check other anglers, checked everyone but us for some reason.

Had nasty stomach ache from all you can eat sushi last night so I had to drill a shallow hole to liquid shit into and wipe my ass with ice shavings, that was rad.

Got a 6lb pike on the last of my giant freezer burned mackerel just as I was packing up to leave at 3pm. Only other fish was a little hammer handle I basically snagged while jigging for perch out of boredom.
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>>2862530
tmi faggot
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i have an old felt washer in an old reel i'm servicing, it's crushed so it isn't doing it's job well, do you think i can just put an homemade cardboard washer under it?
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More evidence fish are stupud.

After a bobber fisherman with 6lb line and dead drifts couldnt catch anything out of the hole he was fishing, i came through with a spinner on 20lb mono and cleaned up behind him.
>>2862595
Oiled cardboard might work. You might also consider leather. Im not certain where the washer was or what its doing so i cant say for sure.
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Last year, I bought a new CR-V. I own a kayak and a trailer but don't have a hitch. I'm halfway debating selling my car to my sister (without taking much of a haircut) and buying a Ranger or a Tacoma. This has been on my mind soon after buying tge CR-V. Dumb, I know. Anyway, I have never fished the Mississippi but fish close to it. I'd love to fish it, but I only have a kayak.
Do I buy a truck and a jon boat, or do I keep my car and just get a hitch installed for my kayak trailer. My CR-V is incapable of towing a jon boat. This has been stewing in my brain for a year, and some other input would be helpful in getting out of my head.
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>>2862608
as someonw who owns both a truck and a suv, I will tell you that the suv+trailer combo is far more versatile as long as you don't plan to ever tow anything heavy. why can't you tow a lightweight jon boat? doesn't matter anyways because kayaks are just more versatile. the only real benefit of a jon boat is if you have a 5+hp outboard so you can actually go fast enough to cover water faster than in a kayak with a modern electric motor setup like a nk180pro which tops out at like 6mph. the benefit of suv+trailer is that you don't always have to drive with the trailer, whereas a truck is a compromise because it's always in "work" mode with the drawbacks of less interior space. I actually hook my kayak trailer up to the truck too instead of throwing it in the bed because it's just easier setup and launching, and I can have it actually rigger so I don't have to do it all at the launch. by all means if you want a truck get a truck, but I would not do it just for fishing/kayak.
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Anybody here do any fishing in the Adirondack park?
I went backpack camping/fishing last year to west canada lake wilderness and didn't have much luck. After some reading apparently a lot of water bodies in that area are recovering from acid rain and aren't particularly fishy.
Anybody know any good areas in the park that have decent amount of trout?

Moose River plains looked promising, I think the moose river has a fair amount of fish activity, but any leads would be much appreciated.
I was going to get out there mid-late may
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>>2862623
>why can't you tow a lightweight jon boat?
My towing capacity is a measly 1500 lbs. I fly fish and specifically bought a standing kayak for that purpose. Standing isn't very stable, but that's not even the worst part. My kayak doesn't track worth a shit. It's all very sad.
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>>2862648
I'm sure you can get a boat and trailer setup under 1500lbs, but a crv can tow more than that. Just trade it in before you blow up the tranny
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>>2862648
A 12x42Jon boat, trailer, 5 horse outboard, sonar, trolling motor, and battery should be like 800 lbs unless you go full retard rigging the boat.
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>>2862648
sounds like you just picked the wrong kayak. there are plenty of trailer/kayak combos that will be way under 1000lbs total. guess what? jon boats don't track at all, especially flat bottoms. I went from a jon boat to a kayak so I would know. they also aren't any more stable uiles we're talking 1448 and bigger, and boats that size are slow with anything under a 9.9hp. unless you're hitting 10+mph top speed jon boats just do everything a kayak does 10x worse. and you're limited to boat ramps. you sound like you need a jackson taketwo with a garmin force current or something. that's damn near a small jon boat, but you can actually paddle it if you want to go to a small body of water. I tried paddling a jon boat in the wind once when my battery died... let's just say that was a fucking clown show.
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>>2862648
I towed a jon joat with a prius you're fine
>>2862651
This
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>>2862655
to be fair, a prius has a stronger ecvt transmission
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>>2862658
Would the fact im putting a tow hitch on my honda fit make you more confident?
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>>2862652
I know that I haven’t tried every kayak, but even the big heavy SOT kayaks I’ve tried are not more stable than a 1242 with a deep cycle battery in the middle by the back side of the second bench. I’d rather a SOT kayak if the waves are breaking over the boat, but for basically anything else, the Jon boat will have less draught and be more stable.
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>>2862670
that's assuming you are standing in the floor of the jon boat, but most people build a casting deck and that's far less stable due to higher center of gravity and being at the front of the boat. then their jon boat weights 500lbs also. you'd be surprised how stable some kayaks are. a 1242 might edge some of the more stable kayaks out a bit if you're doing it right, but my point is that the difference isn't night and day if you choose the right kayak, and the benefit of being far more versatile is worth going the kayak route if you like kayaking. it really depends on what kind of water you fish also. a jackson bite for example is a fairly lightweight kayak compared to most fishing kayaks, and it's pretty damn stable. comparible to I'd say a 1236 jon. one thing I will say though... if you go as far to buy a kayak like the bonafide xtr or any of those retardedly big ones that don't paddle at all and weigh more than a jon boat, you might aswell just get a fucking jon boat and put a 10hp on it. those massive psuedokayaks were created for one purpose only, kayak tournaments(which have completely defeated the point of a kayak because they've turned into barge competitions). draft is only as good as the lowest point, which is the prop/prop guard on a motor, so I'm pretty sure that's a wash.
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>>2862605
>Oiled cardboard might work. You might also consider leather. Im not certain where the washer was or what its doing so i cant say for sure.
between the gear for the clicker and the spool, the bottom of the spool left a mark on the plate bellow it so i was certain the original washer was too thin
i managed making a new one by splitting a thicker piece of felt i had, probably a bit thicker than the original but the clicker still click
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>>2862675
Glad to hear you got things working
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I used to use my teeth to squeeze lead sinkers onto the line as a retarded kid. How much drain bramage do I have?
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>>2862679
the dose make the poison, so unless you did it regularly you're most likely fine
now they make these in tin so you can bite them as much as you want
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I have an exceller 3000HA, a matzuo mtz30a, and a spheros 5000fa. What would be good rods for each? They were my dad's when I got his stuff out of storage. I live in Oklahoma.
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>>2862669
What is your transmission code? If auto or cvt do you plan to add additional cooling? Might get dicey if you are hauling decent weight (relative to a fit and it's chassis)
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>>2862684
Retard you're overthinking so fucking much

Get a hitch on the CRV, get a trailer and a Jon boat, you're not going across the country with it you're going to be fine
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>>2862671
I've got a Bonafide SS127. Maybe, my kayak was built by retards in a hurry because the front handle is kind of fucked up. Bonafide, my coworker, and I figured out a solution to fix that problem. Anyway, my kayak tracks so poorly that it renders the stand up feature of the kayak useless. Even when sitting, I get my drift set just right, and then, it gets fucked before I can make a second cast.
Anyway, I might be able to borrow a boat from someone, and after further research, I've found a few sloughs to fish without having to paddle for miles to get to them. In any case, if I am to stick with the CR-V, I should probably get a hitch rated for a jon boat and not a bike rack / kayak trailer.
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>>2862699
Tracking mostly refrrs to how straight you travel while moving. Anything will drift from current and wind while sitting still. A jon boat even worse. Thats what dropping an anchor is for, or spot lock trolling motor. Sounds like you want spot lock. How do you think boats stay still to fish? It ain't hull shape or tracking
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>>2862681
I assume you catfish if you're in oklahoma? so CSR-S-802MH for the 5000 reel. what else?
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>>2862705
Alright then. One reason to get something other than the kayak is that I like to stand up to fly cast. Standing in my kayak is mostly untenable, even if I had spotlock. A boat would be super easy to stand in. I'd like to stand up and fish my spinning and casting rods too, but that's less critical. I don't mean to be hostile. I appreciate your responses. Especially if I could borrow a boat, then none of this really matters, except for maybe my car situation (have to choose my hitch still and debating crossbars).
Since you brought up spotlock, let me hear your thoughts on this. I don't really like the idea of a trolling motor on a kayak. They seem to big and bulky. However, I have been interested in a powerpole. I don't own any electronics atm, but if I did own any graphs, it would be a simple depth finder (that goes for a potential boat purchase as well). How much sense does a trolling motor or a powerpole make?
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>>2862713
All I'm trying to relay to you is that unless you get a much bigger jon boat than you're probably thinking, the difference from some stable kayaks is going to be far less than you anticipate, thus you will be very pissed that you even went through all of this cost and time. a smaller jon boat, say anything less than a 1448, is not going to be as noticeable of a jumo, and it will come with a whole host of new drawbacks like the mentioned lack of paddaling, getting fucked by wind/chop/current, heavier weight, increased price for rigging and a motor. don't even think about getting a jon boat unless you're buying an outboard gas motor, otherwise you will have shit range and be slower than some paddle kayaks(3.5-4mph tops and that's with draining your abttery quick via high power draw.) I'm just telling you from personal experience in both a small jon boat and a kayak. something like a 1442 or 1448 is fine IF and only IF you have 5hp minimum. at least then you might be able to get good fuel economy and cruise at 6+mph. otherwse you will be stuck to only being able to venture out a short distance from boat ramps with a trolling motor only, because you cna't paddle back. that gets extremely old extremely quick. that's one reason I went to kayaking. plus you can strip a kayak down and throw it in a small creek/river if you want to. the versatility is just a million times better. I'm not knocking jon boats, I'm just trying to reason with you the limitations and the fact that your current and or perceived problems will NOT be fixed by simply getting a small jon boat. your problem right now is entirely with your vessel not staying in place while you fish, the same shit happens to a jon boat, even worse in wind. the only benefit being amrginal stability. if stability in your current kayak is a problem, get a wider kayak. if you plan to trailer, kayak weight doesn't matter anyways. they're all way lighter than even a 10ft jon boat once it's rigged.
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>>2862714
(continued) kayaks have great resale. trade it in for a different one that's more stable, put a modern motor on it with spotlock, and then you literally have the best of both worlds. the motors are made to quick detach so you can remove it if you just want to fish small bodies of water while paddling. alternatively, get a decent sized jon boat and a 5-6hp MINIMUM gas outboard. then you still will probably want a spot lock trolling motor unless you want to use an anchor. it will end up being more expensive than the kayak after all the other rigging too. just know that a barebones jon boat with no gas motor is simply a floating bathtub that gets absolutely raped by wind and any current. there are also big stable kayaks with pedal drives, which make sitting and fishing easy because you can control the kayaks movement with your feet and a rudder steering knob, but you will still have the same issues while standing without spot lock or an anchor. I haven't been in a ss127 so I don't know how it persoanlly feels stability wise, but look at something like this
> https://jacksonkayak.com/recreation/jackson-kayak/taketwo/
if you like the idea of a minimalist open deck layout that pairs well with a spot lock motor. you can convert it to single seat in the middle. they also make this
> https://jacksonkayak.com/mayfly/
which is designed specifically for fly fishing, but I doubt it's as stable as the bigger and wider taketwo.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BShUEK1tQsY
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>>2862681
you could use the two 30 size reels on a light and ultra light setups, and the 50 on a catfish rod like the other anon said, his recommendation look good, could also serve as a pike or gar kind of rod, any big freshwater fish really
if i was you i'd probably just use the exceller on a panfish rod and use the other cat rod for everything else, you might want to change the lines on these to ft better the use, anyway nylon age poorly
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>>2862699
https://bonafidefishing.com/products/anchor-wizard-low-profile

https://minnkota.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/shop/freshwater-trolling-motors/kayak-terrova
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>>2862736
>wizard
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fishing season sales are starting to roll out. you guys getting anything new this year?
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>>2862746
I just want some more thomas inline spinners
If I see them on sale I'll grab 50 of them
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are people not toxic on this board? I want to get into fishing but I need multiple anons to call me a faggot first
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>>2862752
>ctrl+f
>two instances including yours
eh, not so much, but i'm sure we can do an effort for a faggot like you
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>>2862752
domo arigato mr faggoto go fishing
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>>2862752
we're welcoming until you people think you're trying to measure your dick in regards to fishing, nature, how manly you are, and so forth. then we get weird, like any other board.

as an aside, i once had a classmate that claimed to have fucked a bass in the mouth. he said it non-jokingly, even with pride, as if it was an accomplishment we'd be jealous of. this was in like 8th grade, so prime time for people to make up weird sex adventures.

anyway, another kid said "bet it was a guy fish" and the other guy had no comeback. for a brief time we tired to get "Fishfag" to catch on as his nickname, but it didn't, and he moved before high school anyway.

anyway. i still think of him from time to time, especially now in the context of fishing and faggots. hope he's doing well. hope he did not actually fuck a fish.
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>>2862605
Nice bow skid. Was it recent from this winter? I have a pin but by far my best days have been on spinners and spoons.
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>>2862716
>I haven't been in a ss127 so I don't know how it persoanlly feels stability wise
One of the problems with a kayak is that I will always have to piss in a bottle. In a normal boat, I can just piss off the side. I didn't mean to make the conversation about kayak vs jon boat. I intended but failed to make it kayak vs cheap (few thousand) Marketplace boat. I saw some pretty good-looking v bottoms for not a lot of money. Maybe, they're worth checking out in person.
>>2862736
That anchor wizard looks like what I need.
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>>2862776
Anchor wizard is essentially mandatory for kayak fishing. I run it off the bow to face upcurrent and stern for downcurrent. You will enjoy fishing once you get one. You have to buy the anchor separate. They sell a 4 and 6lb radius anchor, or there is da bomb anchor. 5lb mushroom works too
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>>2862776
I forgot to ask: what is there to know about kayak jet motors. I know a guy who swears by them for creek and river fishing. Why isn't everyone using jets instead of trolling motors other than the lack of spotlock?
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>>2862785
by "jet motor" do you mean something like a bixpy? they call them jet motors but it's really just a normal trolling motor. lower profile(not by much) but it comes at the cost of way less power. something like a nk180pro would be the same price, only a few pounds heavier, and way more powerful. I'm not a spotlock guy, mainly because it's way cheaper/simple to just use an anchor. but I see the appeal. at the end of the day, if you like paddling and it doesn't wear you out, just getting the anchor wizard is the way to go. with your bonafide you don't even have to buy the crank and the chute combo, you can probably just buy the crank that's $100 and run the line through the gap where your front handle is. I'd put some padding on the hull where the rope will rub though. lots of people run anchor wizards that way with kayaks that have molded in handles. you just want to make sure you have the anchor pulled taught when it's up so it doesn't smack the hull constantly. in my opinion when it comes to motors without spotlock, I would personally just get a pedal kayak. pedaling is easy as hell. unless of course there is a specific kayak somebody likes that doesn't come in pedal form, I guess then it makes sense. it's all personal preference at the end of the day. you kind of have to experiment and get some experience at the end of the day to figure out the style you like. but until you at least have a proper anchor setup, you haven't experienced kayak fishing yet. I remember I put off getting an anchor qizard for over a year when I first started kayak fishing because I was broke after buying all the shit I needed. I knew it would solve all my headache of getting spun/drifting when trying to fish, but I was just stubborn. let's just say night and day difference. you can't fish on any kind of watercraft without an anchor. you are at the mercy of the wind and current. constantly picking up your paddle mid cast to adjust position isan obvious annoyance.
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>>2862759
After work on monday. Spinners are great, i personally like swinging flies best bacause its basically the fly fishing equivalent to spinners, and bobber fishing sucks wheather its with a fly rod, spinning rod, casting rod, or centerpin
>>2862752
I try not to be toxic except to matt whenever he shows his ugly mug. Its been a while so maybe he finally had a heart attack pushing carts for publix. We can only hope.

Anyways, we can help you get started, and we can call you an faggot if you really want. What kind of fish are near you that you want to target?
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>Go fishing
>Find fish
Yay fish!
>Fish don't want the night crawler
>Fish don't want the redworm
>Fish want my fucking swivel
I'm a little bit mad not gonna lie.
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>>2862800
Fish are stupid. If they keep eating part of a rig that doesnt have a hook in it, put a hook there. Ive tied orange foam grasshopper flies for when fidh want to eat strike indicators.
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>>2862807
I am not legally allowed to have more than one hook per line unless it's a lure, which can't have trebles on it.

Snagging prevention, etc etc.
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>>2862808
i actually prefer single hooks on baits now but i fish from the bank
gama and owner make some nice crankbait circle hooks that work really well
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I am in leafland ontario and looking to catch walleye. Anybody willing to share a few tips from fishing on shore?
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>>2862808
i also prefer single hooks, it's easier to remove and do less damage when a fish isn't keeping size
now what kind of bullshit country have it illegal to use more than a hook or trebles
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>>2862817
>>2862810
I also prefer singles but I don't change them out on every single lure, I have some siwash hooks laying around various places for when I do feel like it though.

>now what kind of bullshit country have it illegal to use more than a hook or trebles
It's regulations specific to the rivers near me, there's also hook gap restrictions in various stretches of the river. Have to read that shit every time I go out to make sure they haven't updated something again.
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>>2862818
the gap restrictions don't make any sense to me but its probably for snagfags i guess
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>>2862815
Walleye isn't a shore game except for certain times of year in specific places. Walleye generally pretty limited except for the great lakes. You could target river run spawning fish I think that's about it
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>>2862829
Aw that sucks, I was making my way up from bluegill, perch and crappies. I am too broke for a boat at the moment, will I fare well with targeting pike from the shore?
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I am going to go fishing for the first time soon
I bought a daiwa legalis lt2000, and am looking at rods. is shakespeare micro 7' light good?
I think it has to be 2 pieces to fit in my car.
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>>2862843
>$100 reel as your first reel
How do you even know you enjoy fishing yet, damn.
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>>2862843
i_fish said it was for the price, and he has $500 rods and reels. I don't agree with some things he's said in the past but maybe he's right about that specific rod.
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>>2862844
nta but it's not a $100 reel. daiwa is just gay and upped their prices due to "tariffs." all of their shit was like $25+ cheaper a couple of months ago. there is never any reason to pay msrp for fishing gear anyways, the shit is constantly on sale on random websites.
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>>2862844
it will already take hours of my time to try fishing so spending 50 vs 100 dollars on a reel isn't going to move the needle much. I actually paid $85 shipped though.
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>>2862850
>50 vs 100
It feels like sacrilege to skip using the $10 zebco combo.
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>>2862851
I actually did have one of those when I was about 10 years old but I only got to try it a couple of times so I don't even count it.
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>>2862851
you're living in the past boomer. the cheap zebcos are plastic hand grenades now. I used to like the old ones from the early 2000s and older. there's just no point now when you can buy a shimano for $30 that feels like a swiss watch in comparison.
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If all the fish wanna bite is my swivels then fuck it, selling these for $3 each guaranteed to get bit.
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>>2862831
Best bet is bass. In summer you will catch the odd pike up shallow but that's mostly the youngest smallest ones. Pike stratify by age/size according to depth and cover. I've had good success with surfcasting equipment lobbing giant dead suckers out into deep lakes for pike, but I could only name like 1 or 2 spots where I could make that work, otherwise you're going to be dragging lures through shit ass weeds and getting the occasional hammer handle. Unironically this is why bass is such a popular fish they're up in 6" of water even on a hot July day
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>>2862843
I would suggest saving your money and getting a Regal instead, whoch is a great reel at your price point. You can then spend more money on the rod, which is what I suggest. I'd say to have a look at getting a Medium Light 6'6" 2 piece Berkley Lightning Rod. It's got all around versatility. If you want to spend even more money, you could get a Daiwa Procyon. It'd be helpful to know what water you plan on fishing and what you intend to target.
>>2862851
When I was a kid, I had to use a spinning reel from the get go. I'm not in Bass Master, nor do I come from a fishing family. Anyone who isn't crippled or retarded can use a spinner.
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Some silly carp bit my lure while I was using my 5f ultra light looking for bass. Made my reel scream like a mad man. Didn't have a net so I couldn't take it out and had to get into the water to try and unhook it. Unfortunately the treble was really stuck in there and I had to break the lure to get it free, now it swims with a treble stuck inside its mouth. He'll be fine right?

Was my first carp I've ever caught and wasn't even trying for it. Meanwhile I spent multiple Sundays trying for one before today and never got it.
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>>2862891
the most useful tool that 99% of fisherman don't take with them is a pair of side cutters. essentially mini bolt cutters. you can cut hooks. especially useful with trebles when their positioned in a way where they're hard to get out. especially useful if you hook a turtle or something with rubbery skin. EXTREMELY useful(you will wish you had some) if you ever get a hook in your skin. you just gotta make sure you get ones that are big enough to easily cut whatever gauge hooks you use. the little ones only work on really light wire hooks. I never leave without mine.
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>>2862893
Yea I am getting a net and ine those before going out again. I was not expecting a carp is the problem, I've only gotten bass and bluegills and never had a problem getting them off the hook. I crush the barbs.
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I don’t get why spin fags don’t replace their trebbles with single hooks if they aren’t looking to keep fish? Just lazy low iq morons I guess.
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I'm not sure what this pattern is called. I saw it on Instagram earlier today, but couldn't find it later...typical.... It's basically a Griffiths gnat with a red floss hot spot and brown hackle instead of grizzly.
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>>2862896
Man I'm doing it solo and I've only been fishing for like 2 months, half the time idk what the fuck I'm doing. I'm learning as I'm going and single hooks may be the way going forward after todays experience.
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>>2862877
I am not sure if you mean jdm or domestic but the legalis was the cheapest one on the site I used at $85.
I plan on going to a local resevoir, creek or river. as far as targeting I don't have much of an idea except 'not catfish' at I do not want to get stung.
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>>2862899
you did fine, spinning reels don't really require much higher end than that unless its just a personal preference thing
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>>2862896
> it costs money
> most people simply don't think about it
> most people think it will cause worse hookup ratio
> most people just don't care
even lots of single hooks have ridiculous barbs that don't come out easily. but yeah, if anyone wants some single hooks for their lures, get the owner 1x/x-strong single replacement hooks. they are thin and lightweight and sharp yet strong, and the barb is more of a micro barb. they have thicker gauge 3x/xxx-strong but that's more for powerful saltwater fish and heavy line stuff. don't be a tard and just throw your trebles in the trash though. I keep all mine because sometimes I like to take off oversized trebles that come on lures and downsize them. there are a few types of lures that just wrk better with trebles.like topwaters and glide baits where the fish might just lightly swipe the bait.
>>2862899
you won't get barbed by catfish as long as you handle them properly. it's not hard, don't be scared of it. you can even lip catfish, I dunno why people don't just do that. the worst thing about catfish is simply the amount of fucking slime. that's where a rubber trout style net comes in handy. this one has a fairly large opening compared to most, and it's much cheaper than branded shit. it's what I use in my kayak(the 35 size)
> https://www.amazon.com/Trademark-Innovations-Fishing-Fish-Safe-Rubber/dp/B07RCZSSLL
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>>2862902
its the little fuckers that are the worst but i generally just use a lip gripper, plastic kind not the metal kind for almost everything anymore
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just weighed my kayaks for the first time ever after suspecting for years(along with everyone else on youtube) that manufacturers lie. well... both of them were on the money as claimed. in fact, one was a half pound lighter.
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>>2862785
Pump jet motors are shitass at low speed efficiency.
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>>2862746
All the sales I got was during Christmas. I'm not looking to get much else.
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Micro buggers. Size 14 jig hooks with 2.8mm slotted tungsten beads. The first black one, I tried using a piece of size 14 grizzly hackle that I'd darkened with marker. I didn't like it, so I switched to some saved tails from the bugger pack hackle I'd used on some mini buggers. They worked great, I think. The brown ones, I had size 14 brown hackle. I think they came out pretty good!
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just at the legal limit length wise. was considering releasing it but it took the hook a little bit past its gullet + is also being rude in letting me try to remove it so its not looking good for this one
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>>2862993
he look chonky, pike are good eating, still got one in my freezer
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>>2862993
spirit of the laws says that's a fish you keep, it's fine

what are your regulations, anyway? 30in?
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>>2863001
33 inches, after that the pike identify as muskie and you gotta respect their pronouns or some shit. pic makes it look like 34 inches but its underbite pretty much just hit the 33 inch mark irl. the idea of this fish being like ten years old is pretty wild

we got a 31 incher a few days ago that had snails in its tummy, didnt know they went for those. idk if it was just bycatch for it swiping at stuff on the bottom but there was like 5-6 so it didnt seem like pure fluke. this one had the meat from around a y-bone i threw down the water a few days ago + some shrimp tails I also threw down after a good meal besides the sucker I had on as bait
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>>2863005
>33 inches
damn keeping size for pike in france is 60cm which is roughly 23,6in
>the idea of this fish being like ten years old is pretty wild
i'd say closer to 8-9yo, pikes have a bone were you can count lines like a tree after a quick dip in boiling water, might as well google the thing to see how it's done and try it
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>>2863006
thats wild we catch shitloads in the 23-28 range and not being able to keep those just seems criminal. as far as the age thing goes im fine with rounding down to 8-9 yr its just a minor curiosity to me
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Made the special effort to get out tonight since it's probably last call for ice. Hiked out to a completely new spot looking for burbot but didn't get anything. Had to call it quits because the wind got obscene, my hut was anchored on 3 sides and it was still lifting and shifting in the wind, and my stuff was getting carried away. Serious fight to get the hut packed up and my skitty sled kept blowing ahead of me on the slick bare ice.
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>>2863008
i can't express how much i hate the fucking wind. it robbed me of some many opportunities to go fishing last summer.
>wake up
>oh wow it looks like a nice day out for fishing!
>walk outside
>assaulted by 50km/h winds
>GUESS I'M NOT FUCKING FISHING TODAY
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Two coworkers were texting me about me buying a boat. A straight man was offering up his bussy, and a lesbian her pussy. My male coworker showed me a listing for an $800 jon boat with no leaks and a running motor, and I told him that 4chan suggested that I get a v. He thought I must have meant one of two things: that I go trans or get a trad wife. It was hilarious. In any case, I feel that I ought to get a boat beyond my kayak.
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>>2863009
that's how it goes. some areas are dictated by the wind, we have a canal here that the water only moves on the direction and speed of the wind. You get what you get.
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>>2863011
where I live, and most places after covid... jon boats are overpriced and people ask what they paid for them. motherfuckers think a 30 year old jon boat with a 40 year old motor are worth $1500.-2000. they almost always have the floatation cut out, or someone ran screws through the bench which leads to waterlogged floatation. if that's your idea of a good deal, be my guest. but you better wear your lifejacket and you better be prepared to rebuild/repair that motor. and if you plan on taking 2 other people on it, I hope you get one big enough. mexicans regularly drown around here because they have 3 people on a 10 footer, 300additional pounds of wood framing, and a large cooler full of beer. one boat wake and it's all over.
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>>2863011
zoomers...
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>>2863023
Can confirm. Jon boats are retarded expensive for no fucking reason. Old v bottom aluminum boats are literally being thrown out, I see at least one in the scrap pile at the transfer station every year. I literally pulled mine out of the woods and bought a motor for it.

The difference between this and a Jon boat is basically nothing, except that a Jon boat would be a slightly lower center of gravity. I can still pull this boat up in 6" of water and push pole it no problem, and without the casting deck it's light enough for me to strap it to the top of my van.

I'm convinced jon boats are a meme. If you're not going human powered, just get the cheapest aluminum boat you can and forget about what you might be missing.
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>>2863027
> >>2863027
jon boats used to make sense back when they were actually affordable and before stable fishing kayaks became popular. they were the working man's boat. a 2 stroke 3.3 was half the weight of a 4hp 4 stroke also and dirt cheap. those days are long gone. a few years back I had to drive a couple of hours to even buy a brand new flat bottom jon because barely anywhere carries them anymore outside of bass pro. they used to be available everywhere in the early 2000s. I also paid nearly $1500 for a new one. they used to give those things away, even new. we don't really have many v hulls like that in the south, I think it's a midwest, northern thing because they perform better in bigger water with chop. I'd get another jon boat just to have one if it wasn't so expensive in the modern day, but by the time you add a motor, trolling motor, trailer, etc, you're at $3.5k+ which is essentially the price of the most full-featured pedal drive kayaks. it would be very hard for me to pull the tringer on something like that versus a super nice kayak. the one advantage would be if you don't have lots of time to fish on the days where you go out, so the motor can get you around much faster. that's assuming you're moving at like 10-15mph though which requires a much more expensive motor. that used to be the go-to
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canoes are another thing that are retardedly expensive since kayaks became popular. only way to get a budget canoe is an old aluminum and they are hard to find without tons of dents. high end lightweight amterial canoes are like $3k minimum. the "budget" canoes are old town plastic ones that are still well over $1k. canoes are probably my favorite though. nothing like a long 15+ft canoe just gliding on some glassy flatwater. slow to get up to speed but once you do it's just buttery smooth. they get fucked by wind though. it's the ultimate tandem craft. I would love a northstar canoe in ixp material but those things cost more than my jeep. maybe one day.
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>>2860696
Either a top water frog, but I have a soft spot for the Johnson silver minnow weedless spoons, theres just enough hook shank on those to throw on a small soft plastic trailer too
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>>2860696
Frog lure or worm on a treble with a drop shot and bob
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>>2862868
If I may I ask, what are your go-to rigs/ tackle for fishing bass?
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what kind of fly thread would i use to tie jig skirts
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>>2863107
Depending on the jig size id probably go for Danville flat waxed 210 denier or 140 denier
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>>2863102
nta but if you're shore fishing you should have one of each
> walking bait
> popper
> prop bait
> floating jerkbait
> bill lewis Float’n Trap
you can run all of those over grass and they float so you won't lose them. I'd go with chrome, gold, or pearl colors first.. obviously larger/heavier can be cast further and larger walking baits are easier to walk anyways. then the good ol bargain bin 1/2oz bass spinnerbait with skirt. if there are pike near they will hit all of those.
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>>2863023
A 1240 Lowe rivet built is ~$2300 new. Never pay more than about $1000 for a used bare hull.
Similarly a Yahatsu 9.9 2 stroke is like $800 on Alibaba, so you wouldn’t want to pay much more than that for a used outboard. The cheapest harbor freight trailer, a waterproof light set, and a pair of wooden planks for bunks and your trailer should top out at like $600.

So unless it’s got a trolling motor and a nice sonar, the most you should pay for a used Jon boat is ~$2400 if it comes with a trailer and an outboard.
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>>2863113
Thanks for replying either way anon thats really helpful. Do you think I should keep using my 6'6 fishing rod?
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is there a cheap UL rod you guys can recommend?
it's to pair with an old mitchell 204 and have a light bobber rig to fish for baitfish
so hopefully with a casting wait that can go as low as 1g
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>>2863129
Shimano Sensilite or Daiwa Spinmatic, both ~$50.
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29 inches today
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>>2863136
pay the $5 more and get a daiwa aird-x
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>>2863136
>Daiwa Spinmatic
that one look exactly like what i need, thanks
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>>2863138
what was his name
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>>2863152
her, all these yuge ones are females fulla eggz. and I guess piketricia idk. yes i get that its as if i got fucked in the ass with 29 inches if u just take the text but i wanted to say piketricia. making up enjoyment wise for all the times I posted a walleye and didn't write the terrible pun "caught a fish, pikrel"
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how much casting distance am i losing by using a 5'6 shitrod twelve dollar Walmart special medium light. 8 pound mono, rod is 6 - 10 medium light. i just fish for fun at the local lake for trout, but im struggling to get it out from shore. skill issue or should i pickup a bigger rod?
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>>2863139
The Aird-X is dogshit. My store has stopped selling them.
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>>2863159
What weight baits are you using and what is the action of your rod?
With lighter baits I can get more distance out of my 5ft extra fast rod than my 6'5" moderate action rod.
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is there any better feeling in life than watching a jerkbait move side to side in clear water and watching a big fish sprint to swallow it?
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>>2863184
American jerkbait or european jerk bait?

But yes. Fishing topwater and watching the fish come up for it.
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>>2863188
Japanese.
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>>2863195
That doesnt offer enlightenment.

Does it have a lip? What americans call a jerk bait is a long slender crankbait looking thing. What europeans call a jerk bait is what an american would call a glide bait or twitch bait. Japanese manufacture both, but at least in the americas follow american nomenclature and since we're on the world wide web and vernacular changes geographically, and thabks to VPNs anyone's IP adress can be from anywhere it can be hard to get information across without miscommunications
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a jerkbait can also refer to a soft bait like a zoom fluke
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>>2863129
people rate the $25 shakespeare micro series highly
>>2863174
factually incorrect, but they only have one option for ultralight anyways and it's 5'6 2-piece
>>2863159
the price of the rod isn't hurting you, but you can benefit by getting a longer rod. with that said, it might not be as big of a difference as you think if you're trying to cast really light stuff. in that case, lighter line and casting technique makes more of a difference. don't do overhead casts where you get a big arc of slack line, wind fucks those casts badly. instead try a side cast where the lure stays pretty close to the water and the line doesn't develop as much slack. I have a 5'6 and 7' from the same rod line, and the 7' only gets marginally better distance when it comes to really light lures. rod length does translate to much further casts if we're talking heavier baits though, say 1/4oz and up. try lighter or more limp line. tungsten instead of lead weights , etc.
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>>2863200
Also true. Jerkbait is a very ambiguous term.
>>2863202
>it might not be as big of a difference as you think if you're trying to cast really light stuff. in that case, lighter line and casting technique makes more of a difference
This. Switching to 10 or 15 pound braid will get you more distance than an extra foot or two on your rod length. That said, if you are trying to cast tiny shit a long ways, fiberglass is the way to go. Youll lose out on some sensitivity but if you're running moving baits or using a bobber the sensitivity issue isnt such a big deal.
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>>2863182
moderate fast according to
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-Wayfarer-Spinning-Fishing-Rod-and-Reel-Combo-Blue/891553960?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0
its rated 1/16 to 3/4 and i have a 1/8 rooster tail
>>2863202
that makes a lot of sense, thanks. yeah im trying to do those big overhead casts instead of pitching from the side, i am slightly better at the side cast but i will get on the lake tomorrow when it opens and try some of this
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Absolute noob to fishing, I only drop shot for perch. What are some tackles that I should keep in my box that I can do a lot with? Also what should I start targeting next?
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>>2863211
jigs, spoons, spinners (aglia mepps style shit). despite me loving all types of lures and recognizing some are contextually leagues better than others I have very legitimately caught nearly all types of fish on just a straight up jig so don't rly overthink it. jigs spoons spinners crankbaits/jerkbaits really cover a lot of bases. target pike next

pic is of winter winter catfish
winter winter catfish
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>>2863199
lipped minnow shaped baits. (I fish pretty much exclusively in the mediterranean sea)
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>>2863212
What's your favourite type of jig? Also that's a nice catfish, how did you cook it?
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>>2863023
>mexicans regularly drown around here
Good
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I hate turtles. I've yet to find a solution to them.
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>>2863210
you can do a little test and see what I mean. try doing an overhead cast as hard as you can. then do a side cast with like 50-75% power. you should get about the same distance with far less effort. on windy days it's far more drastic. I almost never overhead cast my ultralight stuff at all because of this. there is a point of diminishing return, and you have to reel in so much slack.
>>2863211
drop shot is probably one of the most versatile techniques. works for all kinds of species, and you can use virtually any soft plastic there is. owner mosquito light hooks in size 6 all the way up to a 1. you can rig up anything from panfish plastics to bass plastics. gulp minnows in the 2.5" size work perfect with size 6 hooks if you thread them on like a jig, and 4" gulp minnows work perfect with size 1 hooks..
a must have hard bait is the tiny creme lipless from walmart that's like $1.25 I've caught hundreds of fish on them, specifically the chrome with blue back.
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Creme-Fishin-Favorites-Lipless-Hard-BaitLure-Kit-Assortment-5-Pk-Assorted/35486413
bill lewis ATV is probably the best squarebill of all time. academy brand(h20x whatever) has some really good ultralight squarebills and medium diving crankbaits for like #4 a pop on sales. all kinds of colors with great paintjob quality. always get natural colors first (chromes, golds, pearl) and a chartreuse or firetiger as a secondary color.
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>>2863212
I really started to like the mepps syclops spoon even more than inline spinners. I lost my last one so I need to get some more but man that thing was killer and had good action even when retrieved slowly. it was orange with gold back.it would catch everything from perch fingerlings to a 5lb channel cat. it was a little 1/8oz one too,
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>>2863221
don't fish near them. or reel fast and watch them try to keep up.
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>>2863226
Doesn't work when looking for catfish. Everywhere has them. I would turn them into fertilizer if it wasn't public land.
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>>2863227
fish deeper water
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>>2863216
My absolute favorite are those golden whistler jigs that have a lil propeller on them before the hook. They Just Work. Runner up is just a plain ol green/chartreuse 1/4 oz jighead with nothing else special going for it. If it isn't working, I switch to orange/red or gold/silver.

Still gotta clean the fucker actually. I tend to batter and deep fry them.
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Following my great success with the ice rod made from the driveway marker, I'm scaling up to something even larger. Looking to replicate the long limber float/coarse rods they seem to have loads of in the UK. I ordered some ferrules to join the rods together, I'll see how something in the 10-12' range feels on bass, pike, and carp. I have my handle and tip section made, just need those ferrules to come in so I can join them all together.
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>>2863235
nice carpet
what's the bottom reel?
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>>2863238
Dam quick 330. I have a 220 I'm hot rodding for use on rods like this but I exploded the spool winding mono on too tight so until I finish making my aluminum one this is the closest I have
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>>2863239
>but I exploded the spool
i keep hearing about this but it never happened to me, despite owning multiple old mitchells that supposedly are prone to this, am i mistakenly doing something right?
i'm getting from ebay one of these old reel that's just a spool on a rotating foot (turn it so the spool face the tip of the rod to cast like a fixed spool reel, and put back to reel in) i want to use some kind of old wooden surface frog lure with it, might even try doing one myself
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>>2863210
i didn't even know a 12 dollar combo would have the lure rating printed on it.
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>>2863243
>>2863243
>>2863243
new thread



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