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i tried infrared (picrel) before and the other day tried out some shutter drag pics. getting bored of shooting "normal" pics with my fuji but dont know what else to try out. any recommendations?

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these infrared pics were the most fun i think i ever had shooting

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been travelling a bit and made a few photos im happy with but overall i was really unmotivated

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those shutter drag pics were fun

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demon face in front

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>>4284003
>>4284004
The problem I have with infrared is that it either needs such heavy editing to obtain the unique colors that you sometimes see or the b&w IR doesn't look all that different from normal b&w

I have been playing around a bit with intentional camera movement when I'm bored. What is shutter dragging?
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once i bought this children toy and put it infront of my camera to get a fun effect. was interesting too. maybe lenses in that direction would be an idea
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>>4284012
made pics like that

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>>4284010
>or the b&w IR doesn't look all that different from normal b&w
not exactly, depending on how the light reflects black turns whitish, like the shirt here.
>needs such heavy editing
thats true
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>>4284010
>I have been playing around a bit with intentional camera movement
mind sharing few pics you made that way?
> What is shutter dragging?
i mean longer exposure time. dont know the proper name for it, but basically just long exposure time resulting in picrel

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>>4284010
but yes i guess the b&w isnt too different from normal b&w. except the quality is bad lol
is fun tho. like shooting film but with immediate results

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i like her style. olga karlovac on insta
but not sure how to implement something like that
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>>4284012

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>>4284016
It definitely a vibe, I enjoy the shots. I'm just not sure it's worth permanently altering a camera for

>>4284015
How do you stop it from overexposing, are you using a ND filter or just small apertures?

Here is the only one I've gotten that I'm happy with

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>>4284023
>It definitely a vibe, I enjoy the shots. I'm just not sure it's worth permanently altering a camera for
aye. you can get cheap ones from ebay for like 50 bucks
>How do you stop it from overexposing
night time so not a lot of light anyway+ small aperture and low iso
>Here is the only one I've gotten that I'm happy with
comfy, looks like the background of old japanese drawings

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>>4284024
>looks like the background of old japanese drawings
That's also what I thought of too, like Japaneses block carvings

>>4284024
>>4284016
I like these couple IR ones. I like how crunchy and grainy they are. I particularly like the crow on the fence. It feels like she is about to die or something.
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>>4284015
This is almost good, I think you should have it stable but with the same exposure time, that'd be cool
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>>4284025
>like Japaneses block carvings
yes
but more contrast would do it good anyway what do you think?
>I like these couple IR ones
thanks. theyre dark i agree. i love that about the infrared pics, theyre either dark/ depressing (b&w) or nightmarish (red)

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>>4284027
>I think you should have it stable
wym?

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>>4284032
The reason your shots look like that is because you're moving the camera around
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>>4284034
yeah true i guess. was from a driving car
gonna try out what you said
wish i lived in a city with more lights at night

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>>4284052
KINO
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>>4284003
Get a monorail view camera. 4x5 or 8x10 if you have the gumption and tenacity to shoot large sheets of film.
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>>4284061
I hear those things are awfully loud
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>>4284061
i dont like film too much, only ever had issues with it. broken cameras, fucked up film, retards fucking up developing, expensive all together
had some fun with point and shoot but all together i dont think ill try it again anytime soon
also this looks heavy and stupid, not sure if youre joking
isnt it basically just film really?
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>>4284053
thanks

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Is the X-Pro 2 good at video?
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>>4284017
>how
Smear your lens with Vaseline and just squeeze the shutter while spazzing out like a regard, it looks like
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>>4284082
i think they look pretty decent
>>4284080
no clue
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>>4284017
based karlovac enjoyer
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>>4284012
>>4284013
very cool!
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>>4284104
aye
know anyone who does similar stuff by chance?
>>4284106
thanks
cheapest camera equipment i ever bought hehe
blurry as fuck tho and a bit too small, but not complaining of course. should take it outside again some time

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i think portraits/ people could be good subjects for that toything
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>>4284106
:D

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last one from that toyseries. trippy inca(?) statue. close up human faces should be sick too. gotta try that out

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double exposure is something i never really tried out. shame by camera doesnt allow to "save" photos for double exposure. gotta make both photos to overlap right after each other. very limiting.
anyone of you ever succeeded in it somewhat?

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>>4284120

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the left girl was really beautiful so its a shame her face is covered here:/
(those were made by mistake)

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>>4284010
>doesn't look that different
Anything outside of very long wave IR or x-ray/short UV is going to look like what you normally see, only with a different pattern of contrast. If you wanted to reduce the world to bizarre forms or something truly surreal-looking, it would have to be a medium requiring the illumination of something probably dangerous, or an incredibly sensitive sensor.
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>or an incredibly sensitive sensor.
got an example for something like that?

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>>4284404
NASA has all sorts of images for you. There are research papers on using microwaves and radio for imaging. While it can be cool, what I've learned from experience and research is that photographing in different wavelengths is still photography- which is to say that recognisable figures and forms will never be novel. Aleatoric drawings or digital radioactive decay paintings have more potential for pure novelty. Accepting the limits and the finite quality of photography is part of making good images.
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>>4284425
>Aleatoric drawings or digital radioactive decay paintings have more potential for pure novelty.
true i guess. but gotta be creative for that. sometimes i appreciate the geometry and colors but am annoyed by the boringness of pictures, a bit like here
>Accepting the limits and the finite quality of photography is part of making good images.
good phrase, thank you

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>>4284079
>>4284086

I really like these but I wouldn't call them unconvential whatsoever
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awesome, I can see the music

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>>4284536
Thanks
Yes my bad been bumping with just recent pics, not related to the topic. My bad
>>4284607
Why does this look the way it does? Is it the editing?

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nothing like a good old 2" shutter with flash and moving the camera like an epileptic after the flash portrait
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Does shooting with meme film and a lens that I know that is bad, does counts?

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>>4284010
the main difference with regular B&W and IR B&W is that live plants glow

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>>4284425
>digital radioactive decay paintings have more potential for pure novelty
I need a cloud chamber at home
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>>4287389
this is really cool, mind telling me more about the meme film and especially lense?

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>>4284003
>infrared
hoo boy, love me some infrared
I did conversions on my D90 and D5600
For the D90, it ended up shit and I could only use the live view because my focus was thrown off
The D5600 conversion was much more technical because I actually recalibrated focus when I did the conversion
Are you shooting film or digital?

>The problem I have with infrared is that it either needs such heavy editing to obtain the unique colors that you sometimes see or the b&w IR doesn't look all that different from normal b&w
IR has a completely different profile than visible. When you're shooting infrared, midday peak sun will look like a midnight with full moon, while one hour from twilight will look like full sun because of the way that IR scatters through the atmosphere.
If you're shooting IR, pick shots that have either foliage or reflective surfaces, because both handle IR in a different way than visible
a channel swap isn't a big deal, but IR can look good without a channel swap, too

>What is shutter dragging?
long exposure for the background, then use a speedlight to freeze the subject without motion

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>>4288274
Lomochrome purple and an industar 50-2
The lens is know for flaring heavily but mine is also dirty inside soooo

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>>4288282
>>4288283
these are beyond beautiful, holy fuck. gorgeus.
was it very difficult? id love to recreate that since those look so damn clean.
mine are digital shot with that piece of shit >>4284014
anon you mind exchanging infos? would love to learn more about how you modified your cams etc! hiinfraredanon at proton.me

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>>4288284
cool stuff. should try film photography again someday looks crispy..

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>>4288285
based protonanon, shot you an email from my proton
I'll also post my workflow here


>>4288282
picrel is the visible light version of this photo

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>>4288288
Basically for my digishits, I expose between around ~ -1.5 to -0.3 EV for two reasons:
>when I'm using an IR720 filter, I'm running and gunning, so I'd rather bring up the exposure in post if I need to, and have my shutterspeed faster
>when I'm shooting with certain lenses, IR will hotspot pretty aggressively at certain focus distances or zooms (non-primes), so in live view, lower exposure compensation makes it easier to see if I'm hotspotting too much

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>>4288285
Picrel was mid-summer in MD, immediately after a small rainshower, but looks like the dead of winter
>was it very difficult? id love to recreate that since those look so damn clean.
It's not difficult, it's just a process
on the technical side, with the D5600, it was a more complicated conversion than I was expecting, because the camera actually had a hot filter wired to the control board. I'm not sure why. Couple that with the fact that the IR-pass filter that I bought didn't actually fit, and I was stuck flying by the seat of my pants.
It ended up being that I could safely pull the filter off and just disconnect the ribbon cable, and the camera still worked. No idea why or how.
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>>4288286
We also have redscale for all your post apocalyptic needs!
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>>4288293
The issue then becomes that infrared focuses at a different distance than visible light, which is not as much of an issue as you would think unless you're trying to focus visually.
For live view, most cameras will focus using edge detection, which means that you can leave your focus on the backplane in the visible light area, and if you shoot filtered, live view will focus correctly, while when you're shooting visible light, the IR will give you nice gentle halation that looks cool unfiltered.
This was also my reasoning for not filtering directly in front of the sensor, since that would have required more calibration.

Once you've removed the hot filter (the light blue glass) from the sensor, as you're putting it back together, the D5600 at least (and I'd assume most of the APS-C DSLRs excluding the D5XX series) has a sensor held to the control board with springed screws, so basically you just mount the camera to a tripod with either a ruler or dedicated focus tester and:
>focus
>shoot
>look
>loosen or tighten screws a quarter turn
>repeat
until your focus through the viewfinder matches what the camera shoots
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>>4288296
in terms of editing, I just molest the sliders in Lightroom until I get good contrast and saturation
picrel is >>4288282 prior to channel swapping in photoshop
The channel swap can be saved as a preset, basically it's just changing the channels from (blue- 100% blue) and (red- 100% red) to (blue- 100% red) and (red- 100% blue)

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>>4288295
kino
post more
>>4288288
>picrel is the visible light version of this photo
so you can shoot normal as well? thought once you modify your cam into infrared theres no way back
>>4288293
i wouldnt have the balls to try that, too retarded. shame its so hard to find modified cams online like that
or theyre overpriced
>>4288296
aye. focusing for me was hit or miss as well but with pretty much only luck as a factor
>>4288298
nice
very nice

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>>4288303
>aye. focusing for me was hit or miss as well but with pretty much only luck as a factor
(mostly miss)

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>>4288303
>so you can shoot normal as well?
You can shoot normal, but it's not a true visible light only shot. That pic was with an unmodified D3, if I lined up a shot that I thought was good, I'd shoot with my non-IR cam as well.
>>4288303
>shame its so hard to find modified cams online like that or theyre overpriced
I think that's a function of the fact that there are very few tutorials on how to actually do it. It's really not any harder than building a gundam kit, it's more just time-consuming if you miss something.
At my previous day job, I would fix confocal microscopes and honestly if you're messing with optical systems, as long as you're not touching the optical elements themselves, it's pretty easy
>>4288304
Is your fuji converted or are you using a screw-on filter? I can't tell if it's a hyperfocal problem or if there's just something wrong with the focus. Doesn't actually look like "missed focus" to me
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>>4288309
shame im sure too retarded to do that then lol
got more pics?:D
the fuji is converted for good

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>>4284003
Paper negs?
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>>4284113
i love this, really like how the light forms an almost eye shape
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>>4284120
Get a Smena 8M, the film advance and shutter wind-up are not connected
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>>4288999
never heard before but looks cool
wrote it down, thanks
>>4289346
:D
>>4289397
>how the light forms an almost eye shape
i cant see it desu
>>4289472
>Regarding to the results, you shouldn't expect perfection, expect the unexpected! It's hard to imagine the quality of the pictures this camera comes out: you will get a quality that has nothing to do with toy cameras. Hues will always be vivid, and bright greens and deep blues will take over your photographs. The conquer is guaranteed from the very first roll film.
this sounds perfect. picrel
thank you anon
just bought some ancient color film today, gonna order that right away
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shameless bump
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Am i the only one who doesn't gets the joy in shooting digital anymore ?!?!
I've been using digi & film for years. Especially digi when iam out photographing with a person
taking portraits and ig art shots and if the person is interesting enough i'll also take some film shots too.
But when iam alone, walking around, wanting to ask strangers for a street portrait or doing street photography it's always my film cameras.
Lately i tried to shoot more digital and either i don't really want to or i get home and get bored by the shots and don't want to edit and delete later..
What is the solution for this ?? Should i concentrate on one single lens, one theme or so ??
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>>4294335
mind sharing some pics?
>Am i the only one who doesn't gets the joy in shooting digital anymore
i feel that

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>>4294335
>What is the solution for this
what really is the issue, if you like shooting film and digistuff do so:D

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>>4294335
Film captures a moment in time and creates a physical object with that imprint on it. It becomes unique and rare. A moment in time, suspended in amber.

Whereas digital is never really real. It's ethereal, never tangible, it's an idea. Endlessly reproducible, 1s and 0s that represent a sampling of light that exists in the abstract forever.

It is simply a completely different metaphysical experience.
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>>4294849
beautiful post
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>>4294335
I have tried to like digital many times mainly for the instant gratification and cost,
But no matter what camera I use or what I take pictures of I just can't seem to enjoy digital.
The only thing I kind of like shooting is my GRD3, B&W only with high ISO.

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>>4294858
>The only thing I kind of like shooting is my GRD3, B&W only with high ISO.
post some!:)

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>>4294858
I think they are simply different tools for different jobs. But there is no requirement you enjoy shooting digital if all you like is film and that works for you I don't see a reason to force it.

>>4294857
Ironically I can't tell if you're making fun of me. I believe the core of the idea, but the flowerly language is mostly just shitposting. I do actually think that film creating a unique representation of that moment, which is subject to being lost, damaged or destroyed is a core component of why film feels different than digital though
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>>4294861
I had one in my post.
I don't use it a a lot but I will post the ones I like.

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>>4294861

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>>4294862
>Ironically I can't tell if you're making fun of me
nope! personally i only really had issues with film, also im not sure if i agree, but nonetheless that was a nice post

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>>4294861

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>>4294864
nice one

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>>4294861

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>>4294868
this one too. interesting how a simple guy is made looking sad just by removing colors

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>>4294861
Those are all of my faves.

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>>4294871
I was buying beer and just asked for a photo, We chatting casually before this.
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>>4294873
i like em
not much going on in your city eh

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>>4294867
>nonetheless that was a nice post
Thanks

>personally i only really had issues with film
That's another part of the reason I like it. It's imperfect. Perfection is cheap now, but to develop my film and see streaks and mysterious artifacts and mistakes feels weirdly nice. Like real people and moments, it's messy and often not good and that is not lost in the process.
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>>4294877
xd
might pick it up again
bought a bunch of REALLY cheap film the other day, probably totally fucked up but basically free so whatever
just need a cam

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>>4294868
this is gigakino
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>>4294876
Not a lot, But I usually just carry that around for snapshitting.
There is some things that go on in the summer but I stay away from downtown mostly.
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>>4294876
Here is a photo of a thing that goes on.

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>>4294882
nice shot
what are they watching?

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>>4294883
This.

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>>4294884
i see i see

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>>4294883
>he has never been to a rodeo
you're missing out, brother
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>>4294887
they dont have them in europe:(

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>>4294887
>>4294888
Truly, I got to go two years in a row and it was based.
Gonna try and go again this summer with something other than a point and shoot.
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>>4294888
They don't have them in Spain or something? You should come to NA to see one, it's a lot of fun.
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>>4294893
>spain
oh right, most likely yeah:D

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how to make pics like that i wonder
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>>4296011
Pushed slide film at high noon near the equator at the peak of summer

Its a black magic ritual, or was, before photoshop
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>>4296005
No we don't
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>>4284003
Try staging your own photos and playing with lighting. Maybe dovetail into a separate hobby like clay sculpting or making doll clothes.
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>>4296011
Great album
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>>4296061
rip
>>4296059
>Pushed slide film at high noon
never heard of that before, after looking it up it seems like something i gotta try, thank you
>>4296076
thats pretty cool, nice job anon
>>4296080
for sure

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Random filter that came with a camera I bought.
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>>4297715
damn thats pretty cool, whats the name of the filter do you know? or whats the camera?
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>>4284003
Made this one back in 2021

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>>4300300
I'll post some more
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>>4303222
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>>4303224
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>>4303222
another version of that
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>>4303225

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Bump, reading whole was worth it



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