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why complicate life edition

Previous thread >>4302680

/fgt/ daily reminder (courtesy by anon): one stop per decade is (generally) bullshit
>negative film ages better than positive
>black and white better than color
>slow films better than fast
>storage conditions (dry/cool) matter more than years
>Negative film is shot 1 or 2 stops overexposed and then PULLED in development so that you build more density in the exposure and develop less such that the fog is limited
>slide/positive film is shot at box speed or overexposed and pulled.
>if you home develop you can also use benzotriazole as a restrainer for the the first developer in E6 process


Useful links
>[massive dev chart] gives times for home film development
https://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php
>[film dev] shows results of development regimes
https://filmdev.org/
>[news & community links]
35mmc.com
casualphotophile.com
kosmofoto.com
emulsive.org
japancamerahunter.com
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took my lens apart thinking there was dust inside it but it was on the viewfinder.. the lens is toast now so im thinking of getting a minolta maxxum 5 (same lens as my 400si, so i dont need to buy more filters etc) anyone have experience shooting with it?
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Vision3 250D kinda slaps

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>>4304710

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>>4304709
lmao I wish I had this confidence. To automatically jump to the most involved conclusion and fucking up royally when the most common issue ended up being... the issue.

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>>4304713
in my defense the lens had some very stubborn dust on the front
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Guys help.
How do I get a portrait shot like this in harsh mid-day lighting?
I have a f1.4 50mm lens, and my shutter speed goes to 1000.
Do I just need to get a ND filter or am I missing something?
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>>4304717
Get longer focal length lens or

You may be able to do it with a diffuser and a flash... The catch light in her eye may be a flash.
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>>4304719
It's reflected light, not flash judging by the background.

>>4304717
I've literally got the same look smudging my lens accidentally, or once coming out of an air conditioned subway car into a humid station. You can easily get the effect with black pro mist or the like, any heavier diffusion filter would work. Just like the other guy said, but flash imo is not the answer for the light in her eyes.

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>>4304723
Thanks I'm definitely going to experiment with smudging my uv filter
And the photo is a still from Picnic at Hanging Rock, and in the scene she basically looks directly at the sun.

>>4304719
Oh yeah I forgot I had a 135mm lens...I definitely think that's the solution.
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bought an EOS 5 off ebay for 25 bucks and it came in. Loaded her up and slapped on the sigma 24-35/2 for a test roll and it seems to work fine. Neat-o. I know these threads tend to be heavily about larping as a film photog and so the "plasticky" electronic AF film SLRs aren't well liked, but i already love this thing. feels great in the hand, settings are simple and accessible, and i love that it rewinds with the leader sticking out lol. it's the little things.
I think i still need to tweak the scanner tho, looks stupidly soft, but i'm scanning right on the glass since i didn't get any holders with it. can't complain too bad for 20 bucks though. My test roll was also a new film to me, flicfilm pan 100, so i'm not super sure if it was the scanner or this film that's soft honestly. i need to get a loupe, any recs?

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>>4304737
too many confounding factors. I'm using a windows laptop to get the scanner working, so i got too lazy to port my lightroom activation over. so i'm using rawtherapee which i never used before. I'm not familiar with the scanner. new film flicfilm which i'm not sure about, and i used DDx to develop which had to be a guesstimate because no times for this film available anywhere with ddx lmao. all in all i guess for a test roll we did ok.

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>>4304717
> like this in harsh mid-day lighting?
>>4304730
> from Picnic at Hanging Rock, and in the scene she basically looks directly at the sun.
Anon answered already about the tech side, now let’s talk about how movies works. This picture was not taken under the mid day sun. Even more, I’m not sure this is the sun and not a studio light. You as a viewer should believe it is but don’t grill your girlfriend under the direct sun to get the look from the movie, because you won’t.
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>>4304740
this does look like scanner not focusing properly
>>4304737
this looks good but strange in a way that I can't pinpoint

Also test roll from the Kiev 4! Has some minimal spacing issues, but its surprisingly comfy once you learn how to do the contax grip.

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>>4304751
very harsh light on all of them but man that day was sunny as fuck

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>>4304752
A FUCKING LEAF
But it confirms that the focusing its accurate!

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>>4304705
I just got these both for $60. how'd I do ?
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>>4304753
The bridges are so comfy in there, sadly the river has been dry for as long as I can remember.

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>>4304740
>rawtherapee
Read that as raw the rapee lol
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picked up a roll of Portra 800, Cinestill 800T, and 3x rolls of Delta Pro 3200 for a weekend in Vegas bros including a visit to the Neon Sign Museum, hence the Cinestill
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>>4304754
Overpaid by about 50 bucks but that’s how it goes these days I guess. Back in uni in 2010 I bought a stylus mju, and the second version mju ii for like 5 bucks each at the thrift shop lol. They were on the “almost junk” wall with shit all in baggies. Nice little cameras if you weren’t shafted for em. Picrel is the only scan I can find from them anymore though . Prepare to get buttloved by nonstandard battery prices btw

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>>4304751
Yeah I’ve been looking and there does appear to be up to 1mm thickness in the holders that I’m missing. Gonna have to 3d print out some testing jigs to find the right height. I swear the film looks sharper to the eye but then again it’s so tiny it’s hard to say.
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>>4304737
>the "plasticky" electronic AF film SLRs aren't well liked
I don't think that's true it's just that they aren't talked about that much, I got a Nikon N80 and it kicks ass
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>>4304757
wow consumerism! cool!
fuck off this isnt your blog and go make something useful with the film. instant of fagging it up in here. fag
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>>4304751
Kiev 4 is a lovely cam, prolly one of the best cams to come out of the soviet union.
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>>4304757
The secret to a quality gearfagging post is that you wait until after your trip to talk about the film you used while simultaneously dumping the nice pics you took with said film. I know you're excited, but we have jaded and grumpy boomer zoomer super serious artistès in this thread that you must respect.

I have a very cool, rare, and unusual camera coming in the mail, but I will wait until I have decent images to share before even mentioning it.
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>>4304769
Ok, Ukrainian here. Could you please explain me why westerners fagging around soviet cameras so much? They aren't good nor reliable, The only one advantage is price (I mean, 15-20 euros is okay, why not) but for you these cameras and lenses cost like Japanese and German ones?
Every time I see how you memeing with these Kievs and Feds I just can't fucking understand what is the point? I have this consumer beehive-motivation every time like "yeah, everybody likes and I should try" but then I remember that my father, grandfathers and uncle, all of them hated soviet cameras and was really excited to see Minolta X700, how nice it is, bright, how good lens is.
So, without memes. Why westerners likes this?
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>>4304775
it's about the novelty of owning something built on the other side of the iron curtain

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>>4304775
Ok so, kiev 4's can be had for basically pocket change, and in return you get a pretty well built interchangeable lens rangefinder that's quite comfy to use.
That's why I like it.
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>>4304766
>N80
Man I got one of those with the plastic 50mm and I can't believe how fun it is. It's so much lighter than all my mechanical cameras and focus+exposure is always dead on with no effort so I can just shoot and not worry about it.
Shame about the film door being designed to break so easy, but it's not a difficult fix.
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>>4304782
>basically pocket change
CLA cost not included as I see.
>interchangeable
yeah, maybe this is the reason.
>>4304776
Some kind of cargo cult or just a part of a snow-bears-gypsies-lenin-vodka exotic?
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>>4304775
Soviet shit in general is built in such a archaic and ass-backward way that it comes off as quaint and endearing. And when your hobby involves doing things in a deliberately less convenient and outdated manner, of course soviet cameras are the logical next step. Also they look cool.
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>>4304762
>Overpaid by about 50 bucks

funny. I can sell them for over $100 a piece on ebay. I might throw a roll in each and call it quits. lumix s5 is my jam.
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>>4304775
Because it's a copy of the Contax IIa but made in vast amounts for a longer time so there's a higher chance of you getting a working model. Iirc the Contax IIa/Kiev 4 have the longest flange distance so technically the most accurate rangefinder too.
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>>4304768
>>4304770
didn't ask
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>>4304757
>Cinestill 800T
Please stop giving money to trademark trolls
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>>4304797

You were practically begging for it nophoto. Now go out there and waste that film on nothing and come back here and whine about how the photos are shit.
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>sunny 16 rule
Is it basically just set box speed to f16 on your camera? If so does that mean if I want to push one stop to put half the box speed at f16 instead?
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>>4304810
It means that if you set aperture to 16 and ISO to box speed, if it's bright and sunny out you can match your shutter speed to your ISO and will get roughly proper exposure. It doesn't really matter how you go up or down stops, you can do it with aperture, shutter, or ISO.
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>>4304775
It makes literal boomers seethe.
Also jap cameras are gay, and the only German stuff that I can afford is the one built in the DDR, but Pentacon never built a rangefinder so Soviet shit it is.
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>>4304810
sunny 16 is just "daylight is EV 14.5" use whatever settings you want to get there
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>>4304812
If you adjust aperture, and it’s set to box spot, it won’t push the film. You’d need to adjust iso down ever how many stops you wanna push if you want to push evenly across aperture. You could also just adjust shutter speed down a stop

>>4304819
Late 80s through mid to late 90s japshit is nice.
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>>4304823
Pushing happens during development, it doesn't matter what your camera settings were. It might be over or underexposed but that's your problem innit?
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>>4304788
both the kievs I had required no cla and if you have issues with one you just buy a new one and sell the old one for as much as you bought it for
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>Pentax 67

What's the deal on these? I already have 3 medium format but nothing in 6x7
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>>4304862
67 is like 645, but based.
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>>4304862
Suited for tripod work only
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>>4304873
what did he mean by this
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>>4304876
How to call a camera fat without calling it fat.
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>>4304876
It's near unusable at hand held speeds. Similar to the 500cm series.
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Got my third cactus shot done. Tricky shot that needed tilt and swing for good focus. Once the varnish dries I will be mounting/matting the 3 in one frame. Should be a pretty cool piece. Very fun bit of practice.

That landscape is shot is my current nemesis. I've been trying to take a good picture of it, but the exposure and constantly changing light makes it extremely difficult to pull off. Super fun.

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>>4304879
>How to call a camera fat without calling it fat.
go to gym soj fag
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>>4304880
>unusable handheld
Pathetic basedboy lmao. I’ve handheld my gx680 with its max 1/400 and it’s been fine. Get good.
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>>4304880
Lift some weights goddamn. Why would you out yourself like this? Limp wristed mf.

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>>4304880
To be fair 67 really excels on a tripod almost regardless of model
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Aaaaand here is a scan of one that I varnished.

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>>4304892
And the pics will suck shooting under 1/60
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>>4304892
But what was your lens' focal length?

I can use my linhof handheld shooting 67 with a 150mm at 1/125 and there's no motion blur. I have an anatomical grip for it, which helps tremendously.

If I go to 270mm my hit rate drops significantly.. :(
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>>4304923
>there's no motion blur
[x] doubt
"mirror slap doesnt do anything" tier
Post a linhof 67 150mm at 1/125 photo
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>>4304923
Post lenhof. I thought they only made 6x7 field cameras.
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>>4304903
Not sure what's going on here, it appears to be some kind of plant(?) on top of scrap metal and some of it is wet. It's not telling me anything about the fine details of a cactus.

Then you have redditors doing this
https://www.reddit.com/r/largeformat/comments/uc0ho5/first_macro_shot_on_4x5_crown_graphic_tmax_100/
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>>4304944
>a photo of literal bark
why are 4x5 sisters like this
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Does this lens make my dogs nose look big

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>>4304951
>a photo of figurative bark
35mm pushing art forward as always
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>>4304943
>>4304940
Linhoflets. That horse picture I posted last thread was taken with this camera and a 67 back.

Linhof made a weird and somewhat rare handheld 67 camera that takes vertical shots. I'll post it in a sec. They're cool.

>>4304944
It's part of a series, so it will make enough sense. It's also supposed to be sort of abstract. Lastly the three images I took and will frame are an exercise in producing a finished and framed piece of work using metal plates. I'll post a nice picture of the final piece when I finish it so you guys can tell me it sucks.

>>4304947
We are too overcome by the technical hurdles of using a 4x5 camera, and enamoured by the envisioned image quality to actually take good pictures. It's really that simple. Only half joking.

Alsooooo you cannot really understand the real IQ of large format from scans. You have to print them. Even a 4x5 contact print you hold in your hand will absolutely btfo and scan.

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>>4304957
>asked for handheld photo taken with a linhof
>posts photo of handholding a linhof
Got dam
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>>4304943
Look at this goofy ass camera. It's actually a great and inexpensive option to get into 67 format.

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>>4304958
Yeah, I know I'm based.

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>blix part A in the first bottle
>blix part B and developer in the second bottle
well there goes my dream of one day upskilling to meth cook

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>>4304966
Careful. I hear that makes mustard gas.
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>>4304965
Very slightly soft, probably hand shake
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>>4304968
It was discussed in the other thread that my sharp for the time lens is soft as a babies bottom for your modern pixel peeper.
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>>4304970
Lens sharpness depends on enlargement factor.

This image just has the signature haziness of a vibrating camera.
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>>4304973
Very slightly soft proves my point when using a 7lb camera handheld.

This may have been at 1/250, but I'm unsure.

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>>4304775
>They aren't good nor reliable
Kievs are
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Is there a real non-autistic non-pixel peeping reason to not just live on a steady diet of kentmere 100/400? Seems to do everything I want while being the cheapest readily available brand to me. What would I tangibly truly appreciably get from shooting a roll of T-max that costs 3x as much here?
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>>4304976
Not sharp
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>>4305010
not really, if it works well with your usual developer and you like the results just go for it.

niggas always complain about the lack of contrast but you can fix that in post, be either digital or a print.
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>>4304965
>>4304976
These are not sharp.

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>>4304880
Get some forearm strength goddamn. 5.6 @ 1/30

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>>4305020
>>4305013
Gearfagging pixel peepers begone.
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>>4305024
mfs never did physical activity in their life and it shows. Go on a hike, do a lap, lift something and sweat a little like damn. Telling others a medium format is unusable off a tripod is pathetic and funny at the same time.

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>>4305026
>>4305024
Cute, would sniff.
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>>4305028
lmao are you the same guy that said something like that about the other girl I posted in the previous thread or the black model stepping out the taxi before that?

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>>4305025
I’m not gearfagging. The pic I posted was taken on a 50 year old camera.
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>>4305032
Forgot to post another pic taken on a different 50 year old camera. Face it medium format, sucks for hand holding, unless in bright sunlight. I say this as someone who shoots 90% MF.

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>>4305031
Anymore of the woman painting?
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>>4305033
Not necessarily. Its just that heavy cameras in general suck for handheld. Mamiya 6 or rolleiflex is great for handheld. Doesnt matter the format, although the larger the format the more demanding it becomes to get the absolute best quality you can from it.
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>>4305036
A rolleiflex doesn’t have a mirror to slap does it?
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>>4305042
Neither does a linhof super technika. I would kindly request you refrain from changing the goalposts. Are we talking mirror slappers or just MF in general???
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>>4305045
Holy fuck anon chill out I’m not the anon who was talking about medium format I just asked a simple question.

Do you go around this confrontational in your day to day life?
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Hot damn I didn't know this level of detail was possible on 35mm
all the ecelebs seem to poopoo portra as "boring" but I'm thinking I need to shoot more of it

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>>4305047
Oh, my bad. A rolleiflex does not have a mirror to slap. It has a second lens to show you the image at all times. It's a leaf shutter like a 4x5 camera.
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>>4305051
If a 4x5 doesn’t have it why are they so hard to handhold?
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>>4305052
Because they weigh a lot, they have poor balance, the DoF is significantly smaller for an equivalent focal length, and any imperfection in your technique is blaringly obvious with such a large negative. Using a viewfinder + rangefinder combo is very difficult as well.

They are very demanding cameras to use even with a tripod, and people are not willing to recognize that.
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What's a good cheap to mid budget medium format camera?
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>>4305062
Any folder. just test shutter speeds beforehand, there's only like 3 or 4.
They can usually be had for single digits of dollars.
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>>4305063
Why are the veins like that
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>>4305063
What did he mean by this?
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>>4305063
silent hill is looking dope
>>4305062
A TLR or a folder one, the ones that go for meme prices are the shitty japs ones
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>>4305067
AIDS and sepsis from a necrotic prolapse
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>>4305067
>>4305083
Infrared film w/ infrared flash :)

Ooh and aids yeeeeaaah
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>>4305063
Post somewhere unedited.
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>>4305033
Technique issue. Looks like your scans aren’t focused desu.
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>>4304740
>>4304751
>>4304763
further dinking around with this test roll, i think the camera and development were fine, it's the scanner that needs to be nailed in. 3d printed a thin spacer and the scans look a lot better. i think i've got some residual digital expectation and feel like it still isnt' sharp enough, but honestly its probably good enough. have a mirror snapshit. surprised the rudimentary AF on the eos 5 managed it.

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>tfw no 4x5 sovietshit camera

JUST
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>>4305119
I got you, bro. It is not a soviet camera, but this bundle will get you started for cheap, and people will think you have wasted all your inheritance money on shitty camera gear.

Get a 50 pack of foma100 for like 75 bucks.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/135014709814
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https://youtu.be/uCcpIqlmWrI?si=_uxVjhB_NFgOTdh6

Is this a good way developing in E-6 process?
I'm trying to figure out how to do it economically
without spending to much on developer gear like Jobo.
Or do I really need something like Jobo CPE-2 or something similar?
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>>4305143
I wouldn’t recommend. I have tried once with my sous vide and the temperature jumped +/- 1.2 C during the development and colors were a bit off compared to lab developing. For expired stocks it doesn’t matter I guess but for fresh ones I decided to pay more but be sure in the result.
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>>4305033
Literal skill issue. I've used my Hassie down to the notch in-between 1/15 and 1/30. Hell I gave you a couple examples in this thread of my shots at 1/30 and I did the same in the previous thread but I see you changing goalposts.
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>>4305156
I found some relatively cheap temp controlled bath on ali this could solve problem with precise temperature
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001358444855.html
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Minolta x-300s, kentmere Pan 100
I like to make very boring shots of modernism
is the white scratch a fuck up by lab?

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>>4305186
>chinkshit
>precise
ehh, maybe
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>>4305186
bruh just buy a sous vide theyre readily available
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>>4304965
This is soft and has a useless blurry foreground

At least most of the pubes were cleaned off right?

>>4304976
Also soft

Try shooting superior 35mm and using a lab. 4x5 resolution wank gets you nowhere.
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i have half a roll of 5222 and a good 4-5 hours in toulouse tomorrow
any good stuff to shoot?
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>>4305219
You mean an immersion circulator, fren?
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>>4305229
Pixel peeping gearfaggot does not realize she is looking at OBVIOUS 67 format shots. SAD!

Opinion in the trash. You know nothing and it really shows.
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>>4304965
I thought about composition and this photo is nearly unsalvageable

Blurry grass below, sky is too bright for the shadows without a gnd, shoot horizontal or get closer at that angle and it emphasizes the dog is in a corner and he looks stressed out, get closer and shoot head on and its just a dog in front of plywood

Maybe the best thing to do would have been to take photos somewhere other than the county dump. Then add how its blurry and dirty. Its not lookin good cunt.
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>>4305237
>pixel peeping
If i was pixel peeping id know it was 6x7

Its just a bit soft. At normal screen sizes its soft. Zoomed out on a tiny phone screen its still soft and hazy. There’s no definition. The midtones are mud. Rescan if its salveageable but the composition aint great.
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>>4305240
Imagine writing an essay about an obvious test shot.

Go to bed, nophoto.
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>>4305240
I think the opposite, it could fool me for a historical artifact from around 1917 precisely because of its "flaws".
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>>4305242
Are all your photos just test shots? Lol. Maybe all the fancy grain peeper gear is distracting you from basic photography and you should take a break and use a normal camera for a while. May i recommend a nikon FA?
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>>4305243
German shepherds didnt look that inbred in 1917, they still looked like skinny wolves. 1917 was also either way sharper from huge plates or way worse in every way from shitty super slow and rough emulsions.
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>>4305246
I found a german shepherd photo from 1921

It has a lot more contrast and definition so you dont need to squint or zoom in to see what’s there. I was wrong. Photography in the 1910s and 20s was actually better than that.

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>>4305248
>dirty negative
>motion blurred dog
>still technically and artistically superior because they used light and shadow which gave things shape instead of pointing the camera at the void ala digislugs afraid of blowing highlights
>also sharper probably because they got gud
based
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>>4305248
You know they asked me to post a photo I took at 1/125 or less, so I chose one that was clearly in shadow that was in focus? Only reason I posted it...

It's ultra shitty aristaedu 400 speed film also.
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>>4305250
Next time shoot in daylight at a smaller aperture if aiming for that shutter speed (it would improve your vaseline coated lens)
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Nophoto loser proves herself to be incredibly stupid yet again. Color me suprised!
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>>4305246
Not so clear cut to me, this is from 1916.
>>4305248
It has D&B. Have you even read Adams?
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>>4305255
Still sharper
Still better defined
Still a less inbred looking dog

Has photography gotten worse?
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>>4305256
So you haven't read Adams, explains why you don't realize the negative isn't the print.
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>>4305257
We have photoshop now.

Scans are prints. And shooting underexposed dogs in shadow cant be salvaged with D&B, on complex subjects the halo is unmistakable.
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>>4305258
There's plenty of D&B in the pictures you praised, you're just too artistically blind to realize it.
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>>4305119
Look up fkd view cameras.
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>>4304873
>>4304879
>>4304880
get >>>/fit/ you faggots
on the other hand most faggots are into 67 so it kinda checks out
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Is mirror lockup (or no mirror like a rolleiflex) a necessity for hand shooting MF at lower speeds?
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>>4305010
just shot my first roll of kentmere 400, and thought it was a great film. Gonna be shooting more of it- i think it make take the place of ilford hp5+ desu but might still be too early
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>>4305355
mmm potatoes
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>>4305063
lmao i remember you from a few threads ago. how much have you spent on hookers?
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>>4305375
Why so curious lmao
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>>4305350
the bigger the mirror the bigger slap, so yeah it's a big plus if you want to avoid shaking.
it's not a necessity when you apply the handheld speed to focal ratio (shooting 180mm -> handheld no slower than 1/180s)
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>>4305350
Greatly depends on model.
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>>4305395
Problem with this is most medium format cameras have comparably long focal lengths compared to 135
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>>4305395
>>4305437
That rule doesn't apply for MF cams you'll need to convert it to whatever equivalence
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>>4305444
Yes it does
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>>4305444
I have zero evidence to back this up but I would assume if you want to capture full detail it would still apply. MF captures more detail so you need less shake than on 35mm for the same FOV. If you're just gonna scale your MF images down to 35mm size then sure, crop factor is probably relevant.
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>>4305350
Once again posting this set of photos.

This one is no mirror lock up @ 5.6, 1/30

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>>4305462

This is with mirror lock up @ 5.6, 1/30.

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>>4305333

I find it really funny that I keep posting examples of MF and LF being usable handheld like above and telling mfs to go lift some weights but they're only arguing amongst each other and with people that have photos they can shoehorn and rationalize as bad for whatever reason.

Here's a LF handheld although I did use the neck strap and my core to stabilize. Or is using your muscles cheating? I know some of y'all don't have any. Remember to breathe out slot and steadily as you press the shutter.

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>look at me I am a badass that shoots handheld LF
>That is why I take photos of fucking walls
Clowns
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>>4305469

Awe someone's upset, I see you moving goalposts. Point is LF can be handheld. What about my other posts tho?

>>4305463
>>4305462
>>4305026
>>4305024

Go outside.

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>>4305469
>did you just photograph something that doesn't interest me
Whats the source of your cope, creepshots of strangers or meeting 4/10 women on craigslist and signing a no-touchy contract while their boyfriend watches? just guessin based on the output of the average photographer who hates architecture, landscapes, etc (and it's always photographers, just like how only photographers really hate or really love street)
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>>4305471

Reminds me why I only show up once a day or sometimes once a week. Sometimes not at all. Just like the other Brazilian dude that was obsessed with some blurry cock in one of my shitpost photos. Full of cope and anger, eating it up the second I posted a shit photo and he finally had some "fuel" to say something but never replying to the good ones. They only speak up if you post something shit, try it out and see. It's like they finally have confidence to say something when they see work they can tear into. Not realizing it's bait. Like yeah dude it's a window with graffiti, but that wasn't the point. Second he couldn't say it was blurry or out of focus he decided to cry about subject matter.

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>>4305472
Maybe thats because /p/ is inundated with trash snapshits where the only critique besides “sell your camera” is “out of focus” (always has been)
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>>4305472
Nice critique and nice photo. I like how you contextualized the portrait with the framing.
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>>4305484
Nophoto misses his point so badly he ends up proving it. Lol. Nice.
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>>4305486
Thanks, I wish I had my 50mm that day. And I wish I had crouched a but to get down to his sightline. I guessed the exposure and took the shot regardless. I have to get comfortable with taking my time. I rushed because subconsciously I didn't want to waste his time but I have to remind myself that people already agreed to their portrait being taken so it's okay to take my time.

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>>4305472
>>4305470
>>4305463
>>4305462
>inconviemces others with your snapshit hobby


Maybe one day you will learn how to be a real artist.
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It's been a long time since I've shot as carelessly as with this roll
Got a couple of shots I liked, though

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>>4305526
I see a border you damn liar.
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>street photography is trash!
>but wall photography is cool
mental illness
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> see a deal of 15 rolls for 80 bucks >message seller, just missed on it
>see the same films re-posted in split lots for three times as much by some hideous bugwoman after the original seller told me he no longer had them
These fucking people are scum. Allowing immigration was a mistake, legal or otherwise.
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>>4305530
>LMAO for realzies™

the other ones I like are of friends, so i'm not posting them
and then there are these ones that are like
>snapshitty in execution but I think they could be really nice if more polished
>but at the same time it's kinda hard to get them polished because they could only be made precisely because they were kinda careless indeed

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>>4305379
i remember in the other thread you had like 5 different ones and on top of the price of film its gotta be like 90% of your money goes to this hobby
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>>4305587
Imagine NOT dwindling your inheritance on hookers, vintage cameras, and film.
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does anyone have idea if these flares are just lens flare or a light leak? On the film itself it looks symmetrical from one frame to the other, but it appears only on few frames in the middle of the roll

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>>4305595
show negative
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>vroom

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>>4305648
sorry for the shit pics
doesn't look too good, flares I meant are marked, and I actually saw there is more of them on the roll just most of the time they are very faint
weird

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>>4305595
>>4305672
Tbh they look more like light leaks to me, they are too uniform to be lens flare and they are across different frames. Your shutter may not be opening/closing correctly
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>>4305595
>>4305672
light leaks
if you can recall where the sun was coming from on your most impacted photos, you can narrow down the location of where the leak is otherwise I'd just repair and replace all of your light seals
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>>4305649
Posted this same photo in the car photos thread
>quality critique
Never change, 4chan
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>>4305735
I'll critique it.
Rear wheel is weirdly cut off instead of completely omitted or fully included.
Weird angles in background dont go well with the 90 degree angle of the car.
Super distracting foreground object.
Lighting is ugly, doesn't help accent the curves of the car.
Whole image looks way too gritty for the subject and environment.

What you should have done here is picked a completely different angle and focused more on the actual car because the surroundings have nothing of value as far as I can see.

Just my 2 cents.
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>>4305742
Thanks, man
I don't even think it's that good of a photo either, I just thought that whole interaction was kinda wild lol
Thanks for the comments
Unfortunately I couldn't do anything about the lighting (it's in a store) and the rear part (there was a pillar and a security guard telling me I couldn't take pictures with my camera, although it was okay to take photos with my phone for apparently no real reason)
Not an ideal situation, but not an excuse for a sub-optimal photo, I must agree
Although I don't think it's atrocious either kek
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>>4305742
Quality critique and I agree. I didn't respond to the image when I saw it because I didn't know he wanted critique and in my past experience when I critique people lash out.
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>>4305752
Feel free to contribute, man
Saying "yo that looks atrocious, and no, I will not explain any further" is pathetic, but offering actual criticism like the other guy did is literally the main reason I post on 4chins
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And it BEGINS! HAHAHA.

Still have to spend a decent bit more time on this print. I couldn't help but make an 8x10 really quick.

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>>4305830
yo that looks atrocious, and no, I will not explain any further
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>>4305832
Said the same about your mother before I spent a little more time in the darkroom fixing her up!

OH BABY! WE ARE SO BACK.

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>>4305830
>>4305833
>Underexposed as fucking fuck
I consider this guy a troll, I have no other explanation why he is so unbelievably bad at everything he does.
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>>4305837
You simply cannot read can you? I have testinf of my enlarger that needs doing before I actually spend time on a print. Idiot.
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>>4305839
And what is the result of this kind of testing? Image can be printed on paper and developer works?
This is ridiculous. I have nothing to say.
Man you have built a reputation already, this is not a thing that can be easily ignored. Just try to make something correct. Please. Not only you but all of us need this.
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>>4305841
You sound like a filthy no print from your sheer ignorance alone. My advice? Stop getting so angry at images on the internet. Your life will improve.

It was my first print in over 5 years and I was just excited to share that I'm back in business. I even said it was shit. You think I'm done working on one of my favorite images of my dog when it looks like that? Are you really that incredibly stupid?
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>>4305847
Maybe, just maybe, we don’t need to see every step in your “process.”
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Having a test print to check that the grain is focused made a major difference in how sharp this print looks now. Added an extra bit of time, and got my background exposed. I figured out that the vario-contrast setting was not activated, so now I can start bumping up the contrast.

Sadly I did not fix it for long enough. I need a darkroom timer... My setup is far from ideal, but I'm making it work.l in my 4x4 tent. Hah.


>>4305857
And your autistic whining about an obvious test print?

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>>4305859
yo that still looks atrocious, and no, I will not explain any further
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Contrast +2. Think I may like +.5 best. It's a little too harsh right now...

It's kinda fun sharing my process, but I'm not going to often after today. I think I'm one of maybe 3 people that I've ever seen post actual prints on here, so you can't say it isn't fresh and new content!

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>>4305873
There it is. +.75 seems perfect for my tastes. :D

I could probably add a few more seconds to get some pure black in there, and it may be even nicer. I'll decide on that when my print dries.

Onto an image with corner to corner focus for more testing. I'm not going to post anymore about my darkroom fun. Thanks for reading my blog.

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>>4305878
Not a bad portrait of your doggo. Your haters are seething at your accomplishments.
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>>4305878
looks like you got a little too excited about getting the right contrast.. whats that shadow doghairanon?
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Please observe what it means to want it and get it.

These darkroom tents were on sale at b&h for like 200 bucks. That's cheaper than the large film changing bags by over 150 bucks.

>>4305883
:D Always.

>>4305885
I could not can-tain myself. I'm sorry.

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>should I try porta 800

90% of the color I shoot is e100 with a little gold 200. Never tried porta at all but thought 800 would be good for some indoor shooting.
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1:15 exposure at 0 contrast. Dodge bottom half for 45 seconds. 10 seconds at +4 contrast. Bam. This scene was very high contrast, so it was extra fun to try and get everything nice looking.

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MF chads - what's your favorite format and film stock?
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>>4305959
6x6, Rollei retro 80s
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>>4304737
Those kinds of film cameras are my favorite because they have neat features and haven’t had prices driven up into space by hipsters.
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>>4305735
its an okay photo. i would have bent down a slightly bit more so the grass blends into the shadows of the car, to get rid of the shit in the top left as well as that hideous rectangle thing on the ceiling. dont listen to the people that say it has to be a sterile photo where you can see all of the wheels and back of the car against a pure white background. no fuck that
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>>4305959
6x6 e100 or triX 400
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>>4305959
6x7 Velvia 50
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the qt at the film counter complimented my band shirt today. do u guys think i have an in?

>>4305927
very dope

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Interview with the Pentax film camera team.
https://www.dpreview.com/interviews/4664606705/nterview-with-the-team-behind-the-upcoming-pentax-film-camera
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can any ausfags let me know the best place to source 35mm film in Aus? and where they get them developed? I was a hobbyist digital cam photographer years ago but wanna try out film

I have a camera house franchise nearby but I dont know if they're the most affordable option for film or developing
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>>4306023
>looking to shoot film but not develop
Just buy the Fuji x100, guy, it sounds like you’re just after the larp
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>>4305833
Doggo
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>>4306028
Did you not read what he wrote or...
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Look at this half frame camera.

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Shot my second roll of film and still too retard to rewind properly before opening the camera, but heh lets just call that lomography/artistic flair.

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>>4306032
>where they get them developed
Implying he won’t be doing dev himself, but getting a lab to dev and scan probably. In which case why even bother, it’s just adding extra steps to his digital workflow lol. Just use the Fujislug x100 and you’ve got your “look im shooting film how cool is that!” appearance covered.
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>>4306071
You will feel a change in resistance when you've fully wound your spool up. If you listen carefully you can usually hear it come of the takeup spool as well.

You'll get there.
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>>4306071
Most of them were safe from this little flashbanging incident though.

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>>4306078
I was paranoid about ripping something, so I talked mysef into stopping early because I wrongly thought I felt resistance. Live and learn.

I will shoot BnW next, and I can probably try and develop it at home, which is exciting.

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>>4306054
Looks cool
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>>4306028
I have a full time career and family obligations. I'm not looking to develop my own film right now but maybe down the road. thanks for not helping faggot
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>>4306073
I also don't have a digital "workflow". I'm a hobbyist, I enjoy the process of taking photos. I'm not trying to "max productivity" for a hobby.
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>>4306190
>>4306191
“The process of taking photos” the way you describe you “full time career and obligations” would be the same snapshitty thing film or digital kek. I have no problem with people wanting to shoot film for the larp, we all do it, I just think it’s funny when you nards pretend it’s for some other stupid nonsensical reason.
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>>4306192
I shoot film for two reasons: to produce physical media in the darkroom and upset trolls on 4chan.
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>>4306192
aight man, you do you. insufferable little cunt.
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>>4306082
Rippening is true. I’m still trying to figure out what I’m doing wrong with Rollei. Mechanically it’s fine, but for some reason I can never get BW film off the spool (kodakshit is fine for some reason lol). Ripped the previous roll. Almost done it again to this one that I still have to develop, the leader has an awful crease.
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>>4304705
I recently got my hands on an old 35mm film camera but the last time I ever used a non-digital camera was over a decade ago. What films would you guys recommend? I guess I should stick to cheap stuff as it'll probably be a little bit until I get the hang of things to feel comfortable shooting with the expensive stuff, but I'm not sure how low I should go.
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>>4306203
Gold 200
Ultramax 400
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>>4306023
usually i dont care enough to help people but. cheapest place to buy film is here: https://www.decisivemoment.com.au/ i recommend something simple and cheap like kodak ultramax for color and ilford hp5 for black and white (even tho i fucken hate hp5). you can still edit your photos after you get the scans. and make sure to keep your negatives. best place to develop depends on what state you are in. filmneverdie for melb, with irohas photo being cheaper but ive never used them (im going to soon)
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>>4306192
Have sex, he's a film shooter as much as you regardless of your cope. Just cause he doesn't develop his own film doesn't make his work any less meaningful than yours. You're probably upset you do twice the work for the same shit results.
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>>4306227
>have sex
>i am butthurt therefore you must be a virgin
excuse me i'll have you know my dad had sex with me every night growing up.
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>>4304737
where is this?
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Give me ONE reason to not buy a Pentax 67 tonight

>only want it for the huge negatives with reversal film
>already have MF shit
>debated on doing this or just going all out 8x10

Should I get the 67 or hold off and get into legitimate large format?
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>>4306360
Wait for LF if you already have other 67 stuff. You'll be carrying roughly the same weight with a 4x5 field camera, but your lenses, usefulness of camera(tilt/swings), and film back options are significantly greater.
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>>4306360
Oh wait, 8x10 will definitely be heavier. The contact prints will be superb.
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WHAT is your favorite beach day b&w film?
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>>4306364
Can’t contact from reversal

>>4306377
Trix everything
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>>4306377
Rollei Retro 80S
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>>4306203
Tri-X or Double-X. Foma if you're a super poorfag. B&W films are cheap enough that you won't cry if you fuck up. If you want color, >>4306206 has good recs.
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>>4306378
Think again, buster! It is expensive, but not compared to your 8x10 film...

With slide film Id love to frame them inside a hangeable lightbox kinda thing. I think it would look pretty sweet. You could even keep a loupe nearby your wall of glowing negatives if you were really down with it.

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>>4306381
>>4306206
Thanks for the recs anons. I'm not limited in funds but my inner autist knows that a more knowledgeable person (and future me) would feel pained by me destroying a $20 roll of film. What are some good resources for figuring out the differences between all of these types of films? Everywhere online seems (to me) to just be people's brandwhoring/poorly-defined preferences and the naming systems for these films is incomprehensible to me. I assume for analog stuff like this there's a lot of subjectivity involved, but surely there's some concrete quantifiable differences?
Also, a follow-up for >>4306381 if that's ok: I've found that B&W films sell for pretty much the same price as color. Am I just looking in the wrong place? The idea of B&W (aesthetically) appeals to me but it didn't seem like they were cheaper.
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>>4306388
You could learn how to read the film datasheets to understand the objective differences in the film. Understand what the differences between ortho chromatic and pan chromatic. Tabular grain vs. Traditional.

It's more practical to just look at examples online and shoot like 5 rolls of said film.

Tmax 100 is like the neutral ground for all professional level films imo. It is extremely forgiving to shoot, and has a very fine grain, but some people feel it is a bit boring or lifeless.
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>>4301369
Should I buy some before they run out? My local shop still has them for $8
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>>4306398
Fuji is shit
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Check out this ultra cringe beach day camera selection. Shooting 140mm 6x6 and 47mm 6x9.

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>>4306360
If you're other medium format stuff is 6x6 or 645 sell that shit off for large format and keep the 6x7
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>>4306360
Go big or go home, coward
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>>4306423
This is the problem with LF. Once you start doing 8x10 contact prints you'll just want to go bigger. Soon enough you'll be eyeing a 6k-10k dollar 20x24 camera and a couple 5k dollar lenses that provide thst coverage and seriously considering purchasing it, and then happily spending 50-75 dollars PER shot.

Let me guess. You NEED more than 20x24 negatives?
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>>4306424
What’s the film selection even like for 20x24. 8x10 is already slim enough
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>>4306431
Ilford and whatever expired shit you can find on ebay.

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>>4306435
>1232
So fifty bucks a shot, MINIMUM, and that’s not counting dev and processing. Damn. Better use it for important subjects the k guess
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>>4306350
the geographic center i.e. butthole of canada, good ol' winnipeg

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>>4306440
Hard to think of what would be that important aside from commissioned portraits or something like that...

Wetplate colloidion is the real secret to affordable ULF. You can buy 8x10 glass plates for like 5 dollars each, and the chemistry is only like 2 dollars per shot.

Frustratingly, 4x5 is not a common size for glass to be cut in, so it was very difficult to find inexpensive plates to mess with. On ebay I found 100mmx125mm glass plates used for some science stuff. Got 40 for like 170 bucks, which is about 5x cheaper than any other source. Should be interesting to use them. You can paint the back to make the "blacks" any color you want.
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>>4306466
>You can paint the back to make the "blacks" any color you want.
based. can you make them white? if not possible then med or yellow would be acceptable. not ideal, but acceptable.
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>>4306467
The whites come out as a greyish/silverish color, so you would need to use something a bit darker unless you wanted to rely on the reflectivity of the silver.

I'm going to mess around with it when some when I get my plates.
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>>4306248
No, I was telling you to get laid to chill out. Hope you had a great weekend away from being insufferable but I think that's wishing too much.
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>>4304900
Gorgeous picture, where is this?
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Never mind, it's Peleș Castle
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Tried shooting with an old ass uncoated lens with red filter on GP3 100, I may have botched the dev process a bit.

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Can’t you reverse any film? If so how exactly to do it?
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>>4306508
Yep, I was going through a few rolls of 120 from when I went back home.
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>tfw you do the math and realize you spent $1000 in film and dev in the past 365 days
should i just stop this stupid hobby? nobody ever told me "wow, this photo is so much better because you shot it on film" and i've heard /p/ say "90% of fine art is LF film" but no sources

It might be time to cut the sunk cost crap and give up. All my lenses will adapt to mirrorless anyways...
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>>4306605
Is spending 1000 dollars a year on a hobby a lot of money for a dog?
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>>4306607
Would not spending $1000 on it have made a difference

For all the philosophical autism maybe I could have just had my favorites taken on digital and printed, after all photographic truth is a lie no matter what...
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>>4306611
Depends how much fun you had. Some people derive joy from shooting film over digital. Go find a local darkroom, pay for a few hours and go make some prints of a few of your favorite images.

The most satisfaction comes from the completion of the entire process from envisioned image to framed print. Go try it. If you've taken a good picture, and you can make a decent print I'm sure you can get someone to honestly say your print looks beautiful. Normal people wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between most film shots and digital on a computer screen anyways.
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>>4306612
Fun in the present is real, but I don't trust fun in the past. It might not have happened.
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>>4306613
That's a you problem, and an extremely schizo one at that. Hope you can work that out one day.

Maybe keep your film in a locked safe so the emulsion fairy doesn't switch around the silver crystals on your negatives...
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>>4306615
It's not schizo, it's psychology 101. If you would prefer to have had fun rather than wasted your money, you are more likely to unconsciously make the resolution that you had fun with all that film and remember fun in place of dispassionate, bored snapshitting.
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>>4306616
Well, I guess I know myself better than you. Sounds like you chose the wrong hobby if you truly feel that way.

Go complete the film process and hang your favorite picture on the wall. See how it makes you feel.
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>>4306617
>Sounds like you chose wrong to have a hobby if you truly feel that way
ftfy
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>>4304705
reminder that (((they))) killed him
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35mm Nikkormat FTN

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>>4306605
The real blackpill that /p/ won’t admit is that film is pointless if your goal is the images, since anything you could achieve with film, you could with digital faster and easier (in terms of end result). However if you shoot film for the whole process then it’s a different ball of wax and could be highly enjoyable and not replaceable by digital at all, if we’re including developing and printing. It’s like asking a woodworker why make a chair when they could buy one faster and cheaper and probably just as good, is it about the chair or about making it? Where do you fall? I find that many snapshitters (yes, you and I are both snapshitters) think film will help improve their “photography”, and are disappointed when it doesn’t do anything. Others become quite enamored with the process from start to finish and the images are incidental, a nice “bonus” if you will. You sound like the first. Nothing wrong with it, digital is not the enemy despite what /fgt/ would have you believe.
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>>4306634
For me it was more about the reality of it but that autism has worn off
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>>4306201
>>4306082
>>4306078
>>4306071
Ripped film is almost always caused by fucking morons who think the direction arrow on the rewind crank is just a suggestion, or who don't realise you keep the rewind button pressed down the whole time you're rewinding.
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>>4306634
>Le BLaCk PiLl
lol shut up you both
that's the most boring 8th-grade tier discussion possible and you guys keep pushing it
No one cares
If the faggot wants to shoot digital who gives a shit anyway
couple of whining shiteaters, fucks sake
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>>4306634
how does it feel to be clinically retarded
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>>4306634
But some of us are getting paid anon.
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>>4306638
>>4306639
Blackpilled

Film is worthless in itself. It offers no artistic or technological advantage. There is nothing it can do for your final image that digital can not, except count blurry lines of grains from flashed test charts shot at ISO 10 with monochrome film.

You either shoot film for the DIY process and projecting/displaying real slides or you’re shooting worse digital with $15/36 presets
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>>4306643
Unless you shoot really slow stocks on "real medium format", then you might have a tiny bit more resolution than a d750 maybe
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>>4306643
>>4306646
>They think resolution is what makes a strong image
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>>4306647
There’s nothing in any sort of gear that can improve your content and color, only definition which painters have already proved is a creative decision rather than a quality metric. And digital even has film mogged there. Buy a high resolution camera and use crop modes and diffusion filters or vintage lenses. There’s nothing film actually does for the end product except maybe make (you) more proud of it.
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>>4306647
This logic basically ends up at “the equipment doesn’t matter” so in that case why shoot film at all?
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>>4306671
You can even take a digital picture, modify it, print it on vinyl, and make darkroom prints with it if you really wanted to.

Lots of people do that when making carbon prints because it's helpful to break up the tonal range into multiple "negatives" and print them all on top of each other.
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>>4306683
Yeah I remember doing something like that in my high school darkroom, I think I took a closeup of a nice rack on tv or something, inverted it and printed on a transparency like for an overhead projector, then I contact printed it using the enlargers lol. I think it may have been that really nice tight shot of Jan’s boobs from the office which was a nice talking point back in the day.
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>>4306174
shot at 10 quintillion iso
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>>4306213
>cheapest place to buy film
>$20 for a single 36 exp ultramax roll
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>>4306643
>technological advantage
Except full colour information in each channel, not reconstructed literally by guessing based on the neighbouring pixels
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This 47mm lens is incredible on 4x5. I need to fabricate the parts to add the handle, or find them online before I can use it handheld... More fun!

The shutter on this lens auto cocks. Very nice for a handheld 4x5 camera.

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>>4306711
Oops. I forgot... sorry. Pictures tommorow or tonight. Promise!
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>>4306653
>Diffusion Filters
>Vintage lenses
>Grain Scans
>Halation

Oh that’s right these are wildly popular these days aren’t they.

>>4306671
With your brain in control, sure.
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I've finally gotten to my breaking point with shitty lab scans. I'm putting together a setup to scan negatives with my DSLR, a Nikon D7000. I'm looking at copping a Tamron 90mm 1:1 macro lens to do it, can anyone with experience scanning with a DSLR say if that will be a decent lens choice?

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>>4306735
Sounds like a good setup to me. I have no experience with the tammy 90, but I use a Nikon 105mm 2.8 macro adapted to my Lumix S5 (for the IBIS, and 96MP res mode), or sometimes D600 (for the AF) for my scanning needs and its worked out great for me.
Lab scans have always come back shitty for me too.

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>>4306745
Fuck it, I'll buy the lens and start learning how to edit. This latest round of scans has finally broken me, I'm looking back at older batches of scans and wondering how many other shots have weird artifacts or exposures because some photography student intern wasn't paying attention.

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>>4306735
I would suggest a rodenstock APO-N 50mm if you're going to enlarge 35mm negatives. It is considered one of the best enlarging lenses ever made. Corner to corner sharpness even at very high magnification levels.
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>>4306698
other places sell that for 25-28$. its literally the cheapest to buy in australia. everywhere else you look has it for a higher price. if you could point to a cheaper place ill gladly buy a ton
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>>4306735
I have never had the crop, but as I understand you don’t need 1:1 fullframe macro, 1:2 should be enough.
My recommendation is to buy Micro Nikor 55mm 2.8. It’s a good lense for scanning and price is not very high.
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>>4306767
Yup for a crop sensor 1:1 won’t fit on it lol. But he could be hyper autistic and stitch multiple sections together.
>>4306748
Realistically any modern macro lens will be just fine since you’d be shooting at f8-11 anyway, just get whatever’s cheap. I got a used laowa 100, fully manual but it goes 2:1 while still being able to focus infinity for normal use. It’s pretty cool
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Guys, I only shoot on my Minolta srt 101 now a days (kinda like that Hamilton guy on the thread pic), I have a Nikon f3 that I never use. Should I sell it??

I own a large format dual 4x5 , 5x7 that I’ve used more than my Nikon.

Is there a point in having a “shelf Queen??” Am I a dunce for preferring my Minolta srt 101 over the Nikon f3? Even for my studio photo shoots I prefer my it over the F3. There’s just something about that look from vintage glass.

The f3 is beautifully designed but there’s something about it that I just don’t care for and it’s that it’s electric and not manual.

Lmk you’re thoughts gentlemen
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>>4306840
Are you waiting someone to make a decision for you?
Ok, easy. I am always on Minolta side, but F3 always win this battle just because it is better camera. Period. But this is for me. I love comfort shooting (big viewfinder, A-mode, good light meter) much more than vintage look of a camera.
But you don't like F3 what means that your question has no sense.
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>e6 processing kit cost $60 for 8 rolls
>Essentially $8 a roll after taxes
>Can get it processed for $12

There's no point in getting the chems for slide film is there?
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>>4306882
The way to save money is to dev 12 rolls and ignore the fucked colors
That's probably how the lab turns a profit
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>>4306882
The same logic as for C41 and (non one-shot) B&W. If you shoot like 1 roll a week or two there is maybe no point. But if you shoot the same type of film continuously, home dev saves your some money. More you shoot more more shekels you save.
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I have a project going on where I shoot the local Orthodox Christian community on black and white film.

The original plan was to only use tri-x but it's virtually impossible to find over here so I've since switched to bulk loading xx.

I started off with mostly ad hoc street photography, but I've been getting people to sit down for portraits as well. I've even been renting lights and studio gear for the weekend.

This is my first big project of this kind so wish me luck.

I'm about 7 rolls in with about 30 photographs I actually like.
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>>4306890
This just means everyone who doesn’t shoot constantly should just use rodinal. I use it and I’ve used like half a bottle for like 40 rolls of 120.
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>>4306902
if there was rodinal for color I'd definitely do that
This go round I tried weighing out the powders and mixing up 500ml from the 2l kit. I was worried the powder wouldn't be uniformly mixed but the first 500ml is working great. Big question now is whether the remaining powder will keep.
The 2L kit is less than twice the cost of the 1L kit so this saves money, and smaller batches means it doesn't go bad before the chemicals are used up.
500ml is rated for 4 rolls so probably actually 6-8 rolls at tolerable quality. $45/16-32 rolls = $1.40-$2.80/roll
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>>4306902
There are much more one-shots than just rodinal. But yeah, Rodinal is a legend.
>>4306907
I've seen that Adox(not sure) released some-kind of monobath dev for C41. But I am too lazy to google. So just FYI
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>>4306912
Splitting hairs and subjectivity aside, what developers that are one shot beat rodinal.
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>>4306932
>what car configuration better
Subjectivity aside, question is pretty stupid. Depends on what kind of result you are looking for. It makes no sense to compare Rodinal, Tmax, Adotech, DD-X and idunno HC-110 for example. Some smart guys even use 2 devs to split shadows and highlights development.

I mean, yeah, that's cool when 1 dev is everything you need, but this is cool when you know exactly what you need, not because 1 dev is the only one thing you know how to wok with.
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>>4306932
The key feature of rodinal is it lasts a long time so even if you don't shoot much it won't go bad. Most one-shots are not that way.
I got some black, white & green that is supposed to be the same way but I haven't tried it yet so I can't say if it's good or not. Supposed to be more of a "normal" developer rather than for stand dev.
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>>4306946
>black, white & green
what country? I wanted to order from US ecause new dev is fun but I hate to guess the dev time for not popular devs.
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>>4306932
the other anon is right, different devs offer different results so you can't say one is 'better' than the other. I use Rodinal for all traditional grained films and a Kodak T-Max Developer clone for all tabular grain films or when I want less pronounced grain when compared to rodinal
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>>4306637
On my camera, you don't have to hold down the rewind button :)
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>>4306902
Or d76, since it comes as a stable powder. Myself I’ve got a bottle of ddx that’s probably going to spoil on me since I’ve shot like a single roll I used it for this month. 30buxks down the drain lol
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>>4306947
US, I ordered it from freestyle which is in california. It's supposed to basically be xtol but in liquid one-shot form, though the dev times in the massive dev chart don't match xtol.
I'll try to dev a roll sometime in the next few days and post results.
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>>4306643
unknowable levels of cope here, just say you suck at taking pictures

imagine not being able to get the look you want in camera, pathetic really, over reliance on digital editing is sad and shows a lack of creativity

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>/p/ send help
How the fuck can I make a goddamn contraption that works using Instax Mini film on a Mamiya RB67 Pro S 6x7 back?
>instax film fits just perfectly in the 6x7 square
>shoot in bulb mode
>pitch black room
>discharge a flash from afar on my subject, measure accordingly for 800 iso
>put Instax film inside Instax and shoot covering the lens
>all photos come out entirely grayish brown
I figured it could be due to the pressure breaking up the chemicals compartment, so I made this contraption out of lightproof plastic, just covering the back of the 6x7
>Carefully take out Instax film, tape it to the lightsealed Mamiya's back
>do the whole shtick with putting the film back in the instax yadda yadda

This shit simply doesn't work
How the fuck can I take goddamn instax pics on my Mamiya with this setup? What am I doing wrong?
>inb4 buy a Polaroid back/3D print stuff
No, I wanna figure out what is going wrong

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Hey /fgt/, what did this anon do wrong?
>>4306865
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>>4307045
Be born
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>>4307041
Isn't the "don't put in mouth" side supposed to face the lens?
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>>4304705
new bread
>>4307062
>>4307062
>>4307062
>>4307062
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>>4306979
It's true for many cameras, but not all of them, so idiots still idiot.
I mean I'm not immune either, I've "shot an entire roll" in an Olympus camera without turning the rewind switch back, so no film went through. I blame them for making the advance so smooth in the first place that I didn't notice...
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>>4306840
>Am I a dunce for preferring my Minolta srt 101
yes you are buddy
You may not be retarded for preferring one lense over another though, depending on what you want to see in the photos, but an F3 is a very nice camera and an srtlol is clunky clockwork junk.
>>4306735
That's a great scanning combo, go for it.
My last recommendation to anyone taking up dslr scanning is to rig up flashes, either on cables or wireless, to illuminate the negs, rather than the LED setups youtubers use. A bit more tweaking to set up, but you'll get sharp scans every time, rather than risking camera shake.
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>>4306213
thanks mate, appreciate it. I did find decisive moments on a Reddit thread. I'll be placing an order with them next week, I'm rural Qld so I'll have to ship.



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