What setups are you guys running for your editing needs, photo and/or video?It's time I upgraded my old-ish laptop but option paralysis is killing me, I just want to edit without waiting for anything or feeling the heat of 1000 suns. are Laptops good enough these days or is a build the best (and most future-proof) way? be interested to hear thoughts on monitors too.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiColor Space InformationUncalibratedImage Width5988Image Height3369
Don’t mind me, plug and play it just works so I can spend more time on the content and less on building the thing
I'm probably going to get laughed at but my Dell Latitude E6520 I built in 2014 with i7-2960XM and 16gb RAM, 1tb SSD and backlit keyboard, with both extended battery and slice battery, has been chugging along just fine.I am contemplating an upgrade at some point likely to a Thinkpad P-series.
Macbook Pro M1 Max, 64GB/2TB config, connected to a LG Ultrafine 4K JOLED via Caldigit TS3, OWC Thunderbay 4 for storage. Very happy with it.
>>4323804If you're too retarded to figure out how to build the right PC just get a mac
>>4323804It's not that complicated anon. What's your budget. Whatever you do get 64gb of ram. I can very easily use 32gb with a few 24mp raws in photoshop. But if you don't mind having a ton of stuff open at once you can go with 32
CPU is king. More threads generally = quicker anything with post processing.Laptop could do fine, but you'll be getting less overall power per dollar. Cons are you'll be burning through battery very quickly, and will end up being slower as soon as it thermal throttles. A desktop would ensure you can upgrade easily, and have much more control over its heat output.For reference, I have a modern 6c/12t that leaves nothing really to be desired. Cost $300 (Dollarydoos). Unless you're doing it all day as a pro, in that case you want higher core/thread counts as far as your budget allows. Don't neglect RAM, as anon mentioned, you want 32GB at least. Could perhaps struggle along with 16GB but you'd be kneecapping yourself.You're also going to want a good monitor. I'm less knowledgeable about this, but you'll want a HDR monitor if you're doing HDR content, and you want something that has an excellent coverage of the sRGB colour gamut. Fuck AdobeRBG unless every single part of your process accounts for that (it won't).[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS R50Camera SoftwaredigiKam-8.3.0Firmware VersionFirmware Version 1.1.0Lens NameEF50mm f/1.8 STMImage-Specific Properties:Image Width1024Image Height683Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution350 dpiVertical Resolution350 dpiImage Created2024:06:11 14:22:48Exposure Time1/250 secF-Numberf/2.8Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating1600Lens Aperturef/2.8Exposure Bias0 EVFlashNo FlashFocal Length50.00 mmImage Width1024Image Height683RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualScene Capture TypeStandardGPS StatusUnknownExposure ModeManualFocus TypeAutoMetering ModeEvaluativeSharpnessUnknownSaturationNormalContrastNormalShooting ModeManualImage SizeUnknownFocus ModeUnknownDrive ModeSingleFlash ModeOffCompression SettingFineMacro ModeNormalSubject Distance0.730 mWhite BalanceAutoExposure Compensation3Sensor ISO Speed288Color Matrix33
>>4323804CPU is an I9-12900K
>>4323804i7 13700K clocked at 5.6ghz P cores, 4.5ghz E cores32gb DDR5 @ 5600mhz3080 ti GPU850w PSU360mm AIO15.5tb total storageDisplay is a 43" Aorus monitor. Took a bit to get the calibration right, but G2G now. Perfect for large before/after viewing. In lightroom classic, the enhanced Denoise function takes about 10 seconds. I understand it's a bit slower on Apple products.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakesamsungCamera ModelSM-G996UCamera SoftwareGIMP 2.10.32Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.8Focal Length (35mm Equiv)26 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2023:02:05 20:38:15Exposure Time1/30 secF-Numberf/1.8Exposure ProgramNormal ProgramISO Speed Rating640Lens Aperturef/1.8Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeSpotFlashNo FlashFocal Length5.40 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width4032Image Height2268Exposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardUnique Image IDR12QSMF00SM
>>4323804Any competent pc made in the last ~5 years can run lightroom just fine as long as it has enough ram. This means either rubbing two braincells together to upgrade a used optiplex you got for peanuts or paying $400 above base price for an optioned out Mac Mini.In the end the amount of money you spend on a monitor matters far, far more once you are over 16gb of ram.
>>4324208Just remember- Lightroom Classic can and will utilize all your CPU cores and your GPU to speed up operations. Mackbooks were taking 20 minutes to run denoise when it was released. Real computers...significantly faster.
>>4324204Now post it mid video editing, no way it keeps those temperatures.I also have this cpu, it pumps out so much heat even with the big 3 fan all in one water coolers. Hears your entire room.
5800x48gb ram3080tiAsus creator moboRme fireface soundcard34" oled monitor2 x 2tb nvmeSilversonic psuCustom water-cooling loop for CPU & GPU with 280 & 360mm rads and d5 pump, completely silent 95% of the time.
>>4324204Damn I remember the days when I was cutting holes in the sides of computer cased and cramming small desk fans in there to cool down my overclocked cpu just to make sof graphics better.
Photos are whatever, use what sugar uses you'll be fine.For video you want the bestest of the best CPU and as much ram as possible, GPU is whatever, it'll bring down render times if u get a good one but thats about it.Oh and SSD's are so necessary.t. ex-film student
If you're not hitting 100c in Lightroom with at least one of your 24 cores, you're not doing it right.
>>4324832This is the setup I've been looking at. maybe a 4070 instead
>>4324832it's only that hot because you're using intelaviv
>>4323807>less on building the thingPutting a pc together takes a couple hours, absolute maximum. It's legos, you're just plugging things into slots.
>>4324969Please understand, the average mac customer would take weeks and a few trips to in-person tech support to put together a basic PC, and then months trying to unfuck their immediately spyware infested winshit home edition install.They are not computers for the kind of person that can slap together a tower and install IOT enterprise in less than an evening despite having no prior experience. These guys struggle just to learn photoshop and when they finally get into "design" everything they shit out is rote and derivative. Definitely artists of the "employable" type. Ok laptops tho.>inb4 poorI found where you bought your mac, kinghttps://www.apple.com/shop/browse/financing
this old one i use most of stuffbus B85-PRO GAMERmemory 2x 8GiB DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1600 MHz (0,6 ns)processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHzdisplay Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]input HyperX Alloy FPS Mechanical Gaming Keyboardgeneric CanoScaninput USB-PS/2 Optical Mousemultimedia 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controllernetwork 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100storage 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset Family 6-port SATA Controller 1 [AHCI mode]power To Be Filled By O.E.M.captcha <<<PY42
>>4323867>doesnt even mention GPUlol
>>4323804Computer Scientist and /g/entooman who's been building his own computers since age 12 here. I'm not editing anymore, but I can tell you to get something with as many cores and as much ram and vram as possible. Doesn't have to be brand spanking new, something like this does the job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFdmYnr5fEMIf that's too much hassle, >>4323807 has got you covered, not even joking.I'll proceed to rate your shitboxes now.>>4323813>Dell Latitude E6520 I built in 2014 with i7-2960XM and 16gb RAMOld but SOVL>>4323830>Macbook Pro M1 Max, 64GB/2TB configIt's ok>>4324198>>4324204>>4324832>Nu-Intel>Few, fast coresGo back to your gaymen, this is a men only AMD (All-Mighty Dick) world>>4324620>Not 5950XIt's 300 bux Anon ...>>4325013It's fine if it fits in your budget. Maybe check out the link above.Captcha: TARNN
>>4327745OP here, I ordered a pc today but I'm not building it myself. i would fuck it up.quick overview of specs: i9 14900k 64gb corsair dominator platinum 16gb 4070 Ti SuperiCue H150i - i just liked the little screen2tb Samsung evo m.2 & 4tb seagate hddbeen re-reading this thread a few times whilst switching back and forth between several options. so thanks guys, I guess. unless I fucked up, in which case fuck all of you.
>>4327758>unless I fucked up>14900KYou did. You fucked up bad. You caved into peer pressure and bought a Gaming CPU instead of something with lots of cores.https://gamersnexus.net/cpus/best-cpus-2023-intel-vs-amd-gaming-video-editing-budget-biggest-disappointmenthttps://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5717vs5031/Intel-i9-14900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-7950X>14900K>60813 in Multi-threadedvs>7950X >62856 in Multi-threadedpassmark is admittedly a synthetic benchmark, but editing is one of the very few benchmarks that translates 1:1 to synthetic benchmarks. Also, the 14900K has just 8 fuckhueg cores, the other 8 cores a puny efficient cores. The 7950X has 16 fuckhueg cores.>64gb corsair dominator platinumWHY. Just get some G.Skill. It's literally the same RAM chips underneath but costs half as much. If you do not plan on manually overclocking your RAM, don't buy corsair dominators.>16gb 4070 Ti SuperOnly good pull in this setup>iCue H150i - i just liked the little screenGet the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 280 instead. Arctic makes the thickest radiators. The 14900K is almost impossible to cool, good luck trying to cool that SOB with a radiator thinner than a durex ultra sensitive.>2tb Samsung evo m.2 & 4tb seagate hddMake that an 980 PRO.Up to 4TB HDDs: WDOver 4TB HDDs: SeagateAlso, is the HDD CMR? If it is SMR and edit off of it, you'll hate your PC's guts.Overall 2/10 PC. You've overspent on unnecessary bling bling and under-spent where it really matters. If you can cancel the order, CANCEL IT, and then head over to >>>/g/pcbg and tell them you need a wprkstation. Or drop me kik or discord or something and I can set something up for you.
if you want a low cost hardware calibratable screen then > LG 27UP85NP-WPCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8t6s28CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900 3.6 GHz 12-Core Processor ($369.00 @ B&H) || balance between core count, performance per core and power drawMotherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($139.00 @ MSI) || enough expandablityMemory: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($219.99 @ Amazon) || low latency bulk ramStorage: Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($94.95 @ Amazon) || fast cache for previewsStorage: Seagate Exos X20 18 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive ($315.00 @ Amazon) || storage go burr ... you can add up to four of these bad boys in the future (also think of Microsoft storage spaces) Video Card: MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card ($449.99 @ B&H) || VRAM and compute for GPU based noise correctionCase: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon) || get something that can fit all the componentsPower Supply: Cooler Master XG850 Plus 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($145.99 @ Amazon) || This gets the job doneMonitor: Dell G3223Q 32.0" 3840 x 2160 144 Hz Monitor ($589.99 @ B&H) || I personally use both the monitors - somehow I like this more than the LG one.Keyboard: Cherry STREAM Wired Slim Keyboard ($22.75 @ Amazon) || you don't need a fancy mechanical keyboardMouse: Razer DeathAdder V3 Wired Optical Mouse ($58.73 @ Amazon) || you absolutely need this precision of a beast for fine editingTotal: $2495.38Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-22 09:00 EDT-0400
>>4323807Based productivity focused user
>>4327758Have some faith in yo-self nigga. That being said anon above is right in that you've kind of fucked some money off into some less relevant areas. I should have been more specific when talking about threads, because Intel is a goy and uses pathetic E(fficiency) cores that aren't very good to inflate their thread count. So even though thats a 24 thread(?) cpu, it's aids in comparison to an AMD cpu which actually give you proper cores and threads. That's on us, goyem, since one anons should have brought that up. 14900k isn't a slouch per se, but not the most cost effective use of your budget.Rest of the hardware looks alright in terms of capability, but you've thrown some bennies down on useless shit like a screen for your AIO instead of a thicker radiator. I hope your room as good ventilation because you've basically got a space heater as a CPU.If your Seagate HDD is a Baracuda (green label) you've got what's called an SMR HardDisk. They're shit. Basically their only use is for storing files for cheaper than the CMR equiv. at a slugish read/write speed; bottlenecks hard the second you start doing any significant actiivity. If you bought an IronWolf (red wolf label), that's CMR and is significantly better. I can't remember if Seagate make any other HDDs these days. Skyhawk I think, but that's also shit IIRC.Don't feel too bad anon, but yes, if you can cancel and revise that build with some more specific help, you'll get a better performing machine.
>>4323804>laptop Unironically a gaymen laptop like Razer Blade is your best bet. Last years version is currently on sale. >peeseeAnything not ancient will do, depending on what you need (not want). My 3700X GTX1080Ti 32GB does everything I need. Used parts/builds in that range are incredibly cheap and readily available.
>>4328004>>4327764ok, thanks guys. I can easily cancelso, is the i9 1400k just a write off for non-gaming usage then? the 7950x just smokes it in all regards? or would it be salvageable with better cooling? it's hard to believe that intel's latest gen i9 has absolutely nothing on the competition... and yep, seagate ironwolf, 990 pro ssd. If I didn't despise apple with a passion i'd understand why people just go that route.
>>432813414900k. eurgh
>>4328134Both of those will be way overkill for editing photos. You will see a benefit if you do a lot of compression/decompression of your files. Most photo editing programs Lightroom/Capture One/Photoshop/whatever only use about ~8 cores max so anything over that is wasted on photo editing. But having extra cores or threads to handle background tasks can be a good idea if you want max performance. I use a 12700k and I kind of feel like it's overkill. But it has decent performance per watt. Which is another problem with the top tier parts. They are usually way worse in power to performance and require bigger cooling solutions, so you'd be wasting money on several fronts.
>>4323804get a mac and just get the job over with.>I need to play games!what are you, a child?
>>4328157>i need a computer that can be expanded, repaired and upgraded instead of just replaced while applelcuck prays apple will add the thing he wants, rationalizes that no one needs it, and keeps on consooming
>>4323804I think the Framework laptops look pretty appealing for photo editing. The available processors should be more than good enough. Low power. The only downside is the displays are not 10 bit and they don't currently offer an OLED display. I think that combined with a good external monitor is likely going to be my next editing setup.I currently use a PC I originally built for gaming, but I haven't played games in a few years.
>>4328169I wish apple wasn't like this. Their M stuff looks really cool. I'd love to have something like an m2 mac mini. Compact and power efficient. But the inability to do basic things like upgrade ram and storage is just a deal breaker. I actively want off windows, it's garbage but Apple isn't providing a better alternative, which is impressive considering how shit windows is.
>>4328173>But the inability to do basic things like upgrade ram and storage is just a deal breaker. The thing is unlike a windows jankbox, you don’t need to. It literally just works. Inb4 pcmasterretards come at me.
>>4328184>and if it wasnt added you didnt need it and if it could be better you're entitled, autistic, and fat!Every apple argument ever
>>4328185 There is no argument when you aren’t even discussing the same thing really. This is like what happened in 3D printing recently now that companies are apple-ifying printers. All the early adopter tinkerer types get buttmad because this new printer is meant to be plug and play and they can’t mod it or do anything to it, but it sells like hotcakes because it just works and outperforms the legions of jank diy builds handily while it does. To the people that bought this machine, they couldn’t give less of a shit about housing and modifying. They want what comes out of the machine, fast and in good quality, and not for the machine itself to be a project. So the same with computer ricing.
>>4328192Enjoy your repair bill oh no wait you will have to buy new who could have guessed
>every pro apple argument is literally and unironically "let me guess, you NEED more?"
>>4328134Good lad. PC building is a bit of a fucked up art where your main goal is to not piss away most of your budget on what you don't need. Understanding all the components and what = cost effective to you can take a little bit of learning, but honestly I recommend it. The alternative is a Mac and fuck that.Head on over to >>>g/pcbg and get a proper component list with autists that know this shit inside out.
Literally anything with an intel core or AMD Ryzen processor can handle images just fine. 16gb is also more than enough for editing photos. It's a really light process compared to video.
>>4328173Gentoo is calling. Darktable and rawtherapee are just tools to learn.
>>4328291Unfortunately as functional as they are, they are not yet "good". I use RawTherapee for processing my negatives and it's fine, but Switching over to Capture One immediately highlights the flaws of RT.I also am not willing to put in the work to learning Linux. I had tried it out and could not figure out basic tasks. I am not a computer enthusiast, I don't enjoy using a computer for it's own sake. it's a tool I use to access other things I enjoy. Learning command prompts to access basic functionality is a non-starter. Unfortunately as much as there's been a push to make linux more accessible, it's still primary developed for and by computer enthusiasts. Fundamentally Linux cannot be a consumer operating system as it's core design chafes against that. No consumer wants or needs a platform designed initially around multi-user time sharing.
>>4328291>compile your color science and lens corrections from source>>4328506It's not linux that's the problem. The linux kernel is great. It's GNU. GNU is fucking GARBAGE, and dynamic linking was a massive mistake. yes that includes gtk as well, emacs, you name it, if you can find GNU in the project it's shit
