>$9000>can't record videos
>no build-in microphonewhy do cucks support this?
>$17K>can't take photos
>>4325615I bought my digital Leica off a trust fund retard who was using it with Canon EF lenses with an adapter for video. He didn't like the lack of aperture control and said he didn't "get rangefinders."
>>4325615GOOD.Videography is crippling camera design>muh overheating on all those 1 hour takes i totally do>muh full sized hdmi port!>muh huge lenses that correct focus breathing>can u uhhhhhh double the readout speed and also the price?Your average FF mirrorless would be $1500 cheaper and half the size if all the useless videography features were totally removed. Or the same price, with a much better sensor, ie: 100mp with curved microlenses and 20+ stops of native dynamic range. But because videotards rule the market (despite none of this even once resulting in better so called "content" from so called "content" "creators") instead we get the arbitrary decision to lower the base iso of penislog, 4k120p with a slightly less severe FOV change, and a price hike for a proprietary applel codec.It's like the megapixel wars, but worse, because there is never going to be any benefit. All the vlog, bootleg, and corporate HR videos these cameras are used for still looks the same. Nobody stands in one spot and admires the detail in a single frame of video. Videotards should have just been buying camcorders.
>>4325645the endgame is AI subject tracking meets AI camera holding, and then an AI picking the best frames out of a HFR, short exposure video feed, to give it more time to analyze than it would trying to take photos live. of course it would make cameras less enjoyable for humans. no one wants to pay a human photographer anyways.
But it has le Leica look
>>4325615Video is bloat in a photography camera
>>4325615just take 30 pictures per second
>>4325645^this^hybrid cameras are nice but when every single camera out today is a hybrid, chasing that WOW NEXT POCKETABLE MICROSCOPICAL CINE CAMERA THAT CAN RE-RECORD BEN HUR AT 48K 500 FPS capability, it gets extremely tiring.Wish the era of funny gimmick cameras would come back.
>>4325832>pocketablevideo centric features have only ever made cameras larger>>432565061mp and not a bloated unreliable snoy
>>4325867>video centric features have only ever made cameras largerP&S digishits have average to decent video-capability while still remaining pocketable. "Video-centric" is a spook. The 5D Mk II introduced video to the 5D series with little to no change to the overall design of the camera
>>4325867you took that whole allcaps section at face value one word at a time didnt you
>>4325645Canon sells the R8, which is incredibly small and is designed just for stills really (no IBIS, etc).And also sells a pro-grip model for those who need it. The R5 is seen as a video camera in some camps, but Canon explicitly made the R5C for video users. Cameras sell on the same rationale as sports cars. People buy them for what they ‘might’ do, which is why DSLR’s are still going strong with working professionals, whereas Mirrorless is in the ‘young male with money’ YouTuber/hobbyist space. Hell, I think the m43 boomers are more earnestly interested in photography than the hybrid camera hypebeast crew is.
>>4325615if you want to take video, buy a video camera
>>4325880>IBIS is not a stills featureIt is purely a stills feature unless you have 8 stops and flawless firmware, otherwise videographers turn the jerk-o-matic corner warper off and use a chinese gimbal. It was originally created for minolta and pentax DSLRs without any video capability. Only Canon and Nikon failed to adopt it immediately so people who just got into photography yesterday associate it with panasonic and video for some reason.>The R8 is incredibly smallIt is the same height and width as a z6ii, only thinner and lighter, and they crippled it with a smaller battery, even though they had room for the normal one, to make up for its lower power consumption and drive people towards the r6. It suffers from the same aesthetic and portability issues as other canons.>Young male with money spaceI thought it was "fashion concerned AKA still having sex individual who does more than just photography when they leave the house and want neither the embarassment of the least stylish blobs on earth nor the 4lb necklace experience" audience, hence sony's apparently undeserved market share. Hate them, but their cameras are just smaller enough and the hard edges are more in line with most people's style, and they have more small high quality lenses than anyone else, tied with fuji.>m43 boomersm43 *girls. The EM10 is the x100v alternative the internet gearfags don't pay attention to, and yet, i've seen more em10s than fujifilm cameras in real life.
>>4325884the a6000 and a7c series are the modern leicagearfags hate it. inb4>THE LENS SHARPNESS>THE GRAIN>THE COLOR SCIENCE IS LE BAD>IS IT EVEN WEATHERPROOF>MUH SHUTTER FEATUREyes, thats what nikon boomers and medium format snobs used to say about leicas. freakin cloth shutter POS with a tiny negative cant even use a 200mm lens without goggles
>>4325888Can you name 5 sony APS-C lenses that are leica quality?
>>4325880>no IBIS, etcah, so a cash grab
>>4325913shhhhhhh
>>4325632>takes a lot of photos
>>4325913Lol, lmao even. Even 3rd party lenses are outclassed leica.
>>4325967such as?
>>4325955>>4325967Why not help them so they can switch to Sony and start with amazing lenses huh?
>>4325615>$9000>Snoy Hardware
