>>4332032
leaves and rocks?

I hate r8 fags, why wont you spend more money and get r6ii?

>>4332070
why waste money on that trash?

>>4332073
t. seething sonygger

>>4332070
Begone nigger. Tell us all about your $20k setup. But really don't, nobody cares

gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

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>>4332070
Why would I spend 70% more money on something that will perform the same (in the hands of a beginner/intermediate photographer which the R8 was intended for)?

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>>4334990
No mechanical shutter
No IBIS
No dual card slots
No AF joystick
No multi controller
No control dial
Smaller buffer
Smaller battery
Lower max shutter speed due to EFCS
Lower resolution EVF
Less programmable buttons

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>>4335057
>No mechanical shutter
A hobbyist woudn't care about it
>No IBIS
A downside but the majority of the RF lenses have builtin IS
>No dual card slots
Not a professional camera, not needed
>No AF joystick
You can use the touch screen and it's more precise
>No control dial
Two dials + the lens control ring is enough in 99% of the cases
>Smaller buffer
So?
>Smaller battery
Still lasts 300-500 shots
>Lower max shutter speed due to EFCS
Nope
>Lower resolution EVF
So, are you only viewing your images through it?
>Less programmable buttons


Meanwhile you get the same processor and sensor in a smaller form factor for ~60% of the price

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>>4335115
>A hobbyist woudn't care about it
You'll never use flash or shoot under artificial lights or shoot with an OOF background and high shutter speeds or...?
>A downside but the majority of the RF lenses have builtin IS
"3 stop IS" isn't actually very good at all. IBIS is so much better, and you can use any fucking lens you want, even adapted ones. It's nice. And it's also a standard feature on a bottom end micro four thirds from 2012. Canon did not omit this for technical reasons. They omitted it to create more motivation to see the R6II as a major upgrade. Same reason they put the tiny ass battery in - with the R6II battery it would last 1000+ shots, with shots equaling cipa's shot interval*screen runtime

These are the only two things that really matter

Canon fucked you hard. The two big features you are missing (full mech shutter and IBIS) are not super new, super high tech, super expensive shit. Canon didn't include them specifically because they hate you. But at least you have high FPS jello shutter for taking photos of a living mop.

>>4335115
You said it would perform the same, it doesn't. Saying "in the hands of a beginner" doesn't change that.
>No mechanical shutter
>A hobbyist woudn't care about it
Yes they would, it ruins the depth of field at higher shutter speeds
>No IBIS
>A downside but the majority of the RF lenses have builtin IS
You will never have the same number of stops of stabilization
>No dual card slots
>Not a professional camera, not needed
It doesn't need to be professional, redundancy is always important
>No AF joystick
>You can use the touch screen and it's more precise
It isn't, and the joystick is better when looking through the viewfinder.
>No control dial
>Two dials + the lens control ring is enough in 99% of the cases
Not nearly as fast or convenient
>Smaller buffer
>So?
You can't take as many pictures in a burst
>Smaller battery
>Still lasts 300-500 shots
Thats nothing
>Lower max shutter speed due to EFCS
>Nope
EFCS has a max shutter speed of 1/4000, a mechanical shutter would give you 1/8000
>Lower resolution EVF
>So, are you only viewing your images through it?
You're literally viewing the world in front of you. You're missing out on details and focus accuracy.
>Meanwhile you get the same processor and sensor in a smaller form factor for ~60% of the price
So first it was 70%, now its 60%? The Mk2 is 1999, the R8 is 1299, that's 35% less. Even if you're considering a markup thats still only 53%. You suck at math.

It will never cease to amaze me how the industry gaslighted you all into really thinking that IBIS matters for stills (it’s a video feature, chuds).

>>4335131
Its actually awful for video, constant distortion if you aren't using a dedicated gimbal. Its for shooting in low shutter speeds.
I've been able to shoot handheld with a full second shutter speed and that shit still comes out crisp.

>>4335131
>IBIS doesnt matter because portraits are shot with flash and weddings cant use low shutter speeds. Otherwise bring a tripod. Damn kids! Back in my day…
Alright gramps dont forget to walk uphill both ways

>>4335115
The R8 is perfectly acceptable entry-level full-frame. You'd gain more from spending that $700 difference in a couple of nice lenses than in features you're never going to use.

That said, there are legitimate reasons to want those features, especially for professional work. If you're just starting out, then by the time you start feeling the limitations of the R8, there will be something better out there than the R6ii.

>>4335141
Thank you canon marketing department i love buying my camera twice

Buyinng expensive garbage and then upgrading is the american way. I love buying things. Buying things is why i get better. So i can but crippled shit and then upgrade. Then i lose as much as i would have spent if i just got the good one on resale - or even more with a manufacturer/dealer trade in deal! I love constantly giving money to giant international businesses! I love losing money!

Reminder canon would still be making over 100% profit if they sold the r6ii for the same price as the r8

They omit $15 of parts and charge you hundreds less to give you an excuse to buy two cameras instead of one

>>4335141
The R8 is fine if you're retarded but its a terrible value, that's why everyone just recommends the R7 because it has most of those features but
>crop sensor

>>4335144
>Reminder canon would still be making over 100% profit if they sold the r6ii for the same price as the r8
Nobody is forcing you to upgrade. Even if you only had money for an R6ii and the kit lens, you'd be better off buying an R8 with a kit and a couple of primes. That's the whole point of entry level cameras.

>>4335145
The R7 is better than the R8 in pretty much every way, except for the sensor size. Depends of what you value, I guess.

>>4335158
Meant to reply to >>4335143

>>4335158
you’d be better off buying a d750 lmao
>BUT
The cannot a camcorder. Not a photography camera.

>>4335158
There's a reason why the R8 is the second most sold canon camera and in top 10 across all brands

>>4335128
>IBIS is a standard feature on a bottom end micro four thirds from 2012
My E-PL2 is finally good for something and it's shitting on Canon. I am satisfied.

>>4335284
because normie consoomers don't get a lot of mileage out of their rational mind, duh

>normie consoomer living life moment to moment and paycheck to paycheck: it is my duty to buy and lose money on garbage before buying something nice. once i reach the limits of the R8 I will buy an R6II.
>high IQ: if i was wasting money on trial garbage i'd spend closer to, oh, i don't know, $100, not $1300. olympus om-d for me, or actually i'll sit and think and decide if i really want to do photography then i'll buy a nice camera and use it for years.

>>4335398
>Went from an old D7000 to a T7 when I was broke after college
>Had it for years, felt severely limited after having shot with some professional cameras
>Finally decide to upgrade
>R8 and R6MkII as my choices
>Not sure if the extra price of the R6 was worth it
>Try out my friend's R8 for a day
>fuckno.jpg
>Bought the R6MkII and never looked back
The R8 is basically a camera for beginners who want to brag that they have a full frame sensor. I grew out of the T7 immediately, and the R8 was no different.

>>4334990
Heh you can see a lil ant on the 'comb, quite neat

>>4334990
>Enhanced-NR
You know what would actually perform the same as an r6 in the hands of a total retard who uses AI cope? a micro four thirds setup for 1/4 the price

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>>4335464
Here's the same image without the AI "cope"
Can you pinpoint the difference?

Also absolute retard take, since both the R8 and R6II have the same sensor and the same image processor

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