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TS lenses are hugely useful but I feel you're better off using a view camera if you need movements
>>4333464For most? Entirely.For some? Essential.
>>4333464Skill issue. Those are some of canons best lenses lol.
>>4333464Entirely. Just do it in post
>>4333464I'll bite. What is it? I assume it has some specialty use.
>>4333507Tilt shift lens for perspective correction and doing that funny miniaturization thing.Good for architecture. The tilt looks way better than anything you can do in post also.
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>>4333464It’s the one Canon lens I dearly miss after I sold all my Canon gear
Is the Canon TS-E 135mm f/4L good for insects? I find that my 100mm f/2.8L macro doesn't have a very long working distance and I tend to scare small critters. I'm also wondering how viable the tilt function will be when maximising DOF.
>>4333535Yes, but you probably won't get enough movement to be very useful for macro. An actual bellows system for your camera with geared movements is best for combining movements with macro.
>>4333535I can recommend going to a longer macro lense, I have a sigma 150mm I absolutely love. Combination of the increased working distance, and also having a tripod mount on the lense makes a massive diffference to how easy it is to use, and then the photos always look great because of the bokeh still being nice at f/16.Really though, the TSE 135/4 will probably not do the same thing; not as long a focal length, only 1:2 ratio and also the t/s shit is just a distraction unless you're shooting flat subjects. Look for the Canon 180/3.5L, Sigma 180 or 150mm, Tamron 180mm, or the Nikon 200/4 with an adapter.
>>4333535It sounds like you need more working distance, not movements.The 100mm L isn't officially compatible with extenders. You could try an off-brand extender like the ones Kenko makes to see if that increase in working distance is enough to offset the loss in image quality.Otherwise you'd simply want a longer macro lens. Canon's 180mm L is the natural choice here. Rent one and see if it does what you need. Or just buy a used copy; they're somehow very cheap now.
>>4333577>sigma 150mmThe MFD of this thing is 15 inches, which is just 3 inches longer than that of the Canon 100mm L. I don't think it's a good choice for someone looking for more working distance, then again, neither is the TS 135mm L...
>>4333535Do yourself a favour and look into reversal rings. Get a few sizes and start experimenting with combinations, especially if you have some old lenses laying around. Order some rear lens caps and drill them out. It will protect the mech without affecting image quality. If you're really paranoid, you can attach filters to them with hose clamps or however you want.This is a cheap plastic 70-300mm G and 50mm D without focus stacking. I did stack some shots but it would take me forever to find them, these are ancient. Use better lenses and you can get much more.
>>4333734>reversal ringsThis is fun, but it still doesn't solve the working distance issue. I've done it before to photograph SMD components.Which brings me to my next question: is this fly a mounted specimen or something?
>>4333745>working distanceAh, didn't notice that bit about spooking. But the main thing that triggers this automatic response are the non-compound eyes on the very top. If you can avoid being too high over the subject to change the light levels above it, you can usually get extremely close:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_eye_in_invertebratesNah, it's just a living fly a few mm from the lens element. I slid the lens toward it along the smooth beach stone it was on. You can get decent working distance with the right combo though, especially with zooms. I can't remember the combos I was using now but some were pretty usable. I took mostly grasshoppers, dragonflies, spiders, and other things that will sit relatively still for a decent amount of time. Bees moved around way too much I remember.
>>4333750Thanks a lot for this info. I hate bugs in general but now I know why flies behave the way they do.
>>4333464>how useless is it?What, a tilt shift lens? Enormously useful if you shoot architecture, estate, or interiors. Can be useful for stitched panoramas, or even just stretching a frame to get a unique angle. Just because you don't know how to use a specialist tool doesn't mean its useless. Its just useless to you.
>>4333464Totally fucking useless I have one and hate it the autofocus is slow as fuck
>>4333780Ambush always good advice despite constantly causing trouble
>>4333709As someone who actually uses macro lenses all the time, I can tell you the difference between the 150mm and the Canon 100mm is very noticeable in the field. I also find it easier to focus, mainly because the better subject separation makes focus pop in the viewfinder better, but that's less of an issue if you're shooting digital as I suspect OP is.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeSONYCamera ModelILCE-7RM2Camera SoftwareGIMP 2.8.14Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.0Image-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiExposure Time1/125 secExposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating100Brightness-4.7 EVExposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeSpotLight SourceDaylightFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryColor Space InformationUncalibratedImage Width1467Image Height2048RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceManualScene Capture TypeStandardContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormal
>>4333535Get a good flash, and a diffuser, and shoot at f/11 to f/22. You’re dealing with a living creature, you might get lucky with a focus stack, or you can just shoot for much larger DOF and use a flash to compensate.
>>4333840>difference between the 150mm and the Canon 100mm is very noticeable in the fieldniggon shooter here, I often wish for something between my 60 and 200 micro-nikkors. maybe a sigma 150 would be the ticket but the "wrong" focus ring direction would drive me up a wall.would you happen to have any experience with the CV 125mm? the price seems less outrageous recently. that or nikon's 70-180 zoom micro.
>>4333806This was me.
>>4333884What's wrong with the 105mm Micro?
>>4333928What's wrong with posting photos?
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>>4334088Why would anyone take this?
>>4333928Apart from being overpriced and too heavy with pointless VR, autofocus, and wide aperture? It's a great general purpose lens but a bit bloated for macro if someone wants to do it right... as in manually, and stopped down with a tripod and lighting.
>>4333928which one?the manual focus ones don't go to 1:1 natively and I'd have to look at a conversion table to get the effective aperture number for external flash calculationthe AF one might be the best choice reallythe SWM VR one has lots of focus breathing apparently and of course has SWM and VR which are useless for macros
>>4334396The same reason I do anything; because I felt like it.Show me a photograph you felt like taking.
>>4334478Maybe you should take a good photo sometime
>>4334402>pointless VRAnon was asking about F mount lenses.I'm referring to the AF-D.>and wide apertureEven if we were talking about the Z optic, its aperture is the same as all other small format ~100mm macros made in the last 40 years (the Leica 90mm f/4 excepted, which isn't even a true macro lens).
>>4334480I will, when I feel like it.
>>4333464Aside from architectural photography, it allows you to have your depth of field on a tilted plane in respect to the sensor. Great for still life, portrait of groups of people and many more things. Not essential, but a game changer if you "need" it.
