I'm not reading all these decimal places. Go outside and take photos.

>>4335736
Man, no one cares.
>Oh, but th-this group...!
No, no one cares.

>Look at this flat earth proof i made
>You can't prove it wrong without citing reptilian plants
Yeah ok

I've used both and full frame looks better even if you shoot "equivalently", sorry.
>NO NO NO NO THE IBIS THE EQUIVALENC
Real life simply does not work like this. Take it from someone that's used both. Micro four thirds doesn't even come close in dynamic range, detail, tonality, rendering, etc. And full frame is barely even that good. It's still noticeably worse than film.

>>4335736
>in photos
i dont see photos here
i see charts, based on charts, based on charts, none of which have ever applied to photos

>>4335736
I fuckin adore my M43 cameras but you're a chode gurgler OP. Smaller than APS-C/FF sensor = worse overall photos than any crop sensor from 2004 onwards.

I can stroke the cock of my PENs all day long but IBIS and creative filters do not = parity with a 5DMkII. And if you're buying a modern M43 for $1500 then you're statistcally a retard because that money should be spent on a Canon, Nikon, Snoy, or Fuji. M43 is great for certain reasons but this ain't it homie.

$850 gets you a Canon R10, $1300 gets you an R8. Or just get a 5DMkIV honestly.

>>4335783
you dont understand bro

by recording every codec with a 2x crop, 4k120 is finally "uncropped!"
fuji x-t5 with its m43 crop 4k120 BTFO by the same quality!

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>>4335783
Here's a photo taken with a 13 year old Olympus just to be more useful than OP ever could

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>>4335783
$1300 gets you an R8?

I picked up a $1500 nikon ZF lately

>>4335788
Might be a bit off. I'm a certifed emu war loser, so I'm roughly converting dollarydoos into real dollars.

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>>4335792
>being an emu war loser

>>4335788
Yeah, it's currently on sale

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>>4335794
Yeah our dollar is basically worth fuck all lately. That's what you get for basing an entire enonomy on importing cheap pajeets to prop up your failing economy.

Australian used camera market is legitimate aids. But to be fair that goes for a lot of used markets here. If I want a 5D MkIV I'm spending $2900(AU) or $2000 used. For comparison I imported the M43 I use from Japan for like $300 with the kit lens in perfect condition. Fuck if I know.

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>>4335804
The absolute state of prison island

>>4335736
now post the FF ISO 100 numbers idiot. The G9II, which I use, doesn't have the DR boost in all situations and its high iso performance is actually worse than my older G9. The IBIS advantage is smaller for photos since FF stabilization is good enough for most shutter speeds. For video, the G9II/GH7 is the best you can get but for photos, FF or even APS-C is just so much better as >>4335762 and everyone who has functioning eyes knows.

>>4335856
None of the numbers in that chart make any sense

It seems to be based on a misunderstanding of what photons to photos charts actually mean (which is essentially “nothing”)

>>4335859
Fool turds actually think their iso 100 is iso 100, when it's actually iso 50

Every time I tried to shoot equivalently my mft raws came out darker.

>>4335856
you forgot "with equivalent lenses" at equivalent ISO, dumb faggot.
The G9II has DRboost on at all times except in +60fps burst modes and 4k120.

>>4335736
>Panasonic L mount bodies aren't included in the comparison
How convenient.

>>4335804
>being a fuckin white aussie and complaining about immigrants moving in and fucking up your country
lol
What a fuckin pickle you’re in.

Too bad your white bongs aren’t better at math, then you wouldn’t need all those Asians.

>>4335903
>Fool turds flat earthing
>Commie shit in /fgt/
>Now anti-white shit
Moopco musta been unbanned recently

Dust off your camera yet or are the snoy buttons and dials totally locked up from fossilized pubes and louse corpses?

>>4335891
the g9ii stacks two exposures if the exposure is 1/60 or less in HDR mode. Two exposures gathers twice as much light!
In theory this should make it as good as aps-c, only. And in practice it's a little worse because those tiny ass photosites have ass tonality and ask too much of even the nicest lenses.

You can not lense your way around the fact that a smaller sensor gathers less light
>mfturds need to spend a grand on a manual focus only baby butt soft shitter to get a whopping f1.8

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hell yeah brother. m43 is superior. fool frame = jew frame

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>>4335910
>what if ken rockwell was a dog

>>4335891
And as always, equivalence doesn't work IRL

I was so unsurprised by the awful results that I deleted the test shots and literally threw my micro four thirds in the garbage

I own a Nikon z6ii and lx 100
Full frame and mft unite. We dab on loser apsc shills who have the worst of all worlds.

>>4335918
>not a leica d-lux 8
>not shooting authentic
The 10.9-34mm f/1.7-2.8 on it is unironically better for gathering light and rendering a nice image than anything you can get directly from panalympus.

>>4335762
Isn’t some of that because all non-tele m43 lenses are actually wide-angles, and as a result, have a different field curvature than their FF equivalents? Anecdotally, the focus roll-off etc is much better with FF even when shooting equivalently. I assume some of that is because the gradation of focus:not-in-focus areas is all longer and smoother due to equivalency.

>>4335926
There's a lot of little technical reasons that add up to a noticeable difference unless you are as bad as ken rockwell, then you won't be able to tell FF from an iphone either

>>4335762
Earth is flat though.

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>>4335917
It kinda does.

>30 replies
>4 images
How many months has it been since the last installment of this thread? I thought it would've come back with better examples.

Hey OP, do you have a day job?

>>4335934
>now 6 images, but only 3 photos

>>4335931
I said IRL, not dpreview. I used the cameras. You are looking at an ACR preset applied to a photo of a test chart with ???? flash settings and god knows what else going on.

I also deleted the test shots and threw the mft away because I think it's funnier if only I know this for certain. The rest of you can suffer.

>>4335931
>that smudged noise from undocumented forced raw nr

>>4335939
what cameras, settings and lenses did you use for your "comparison" anon?

>>4335939
Based but we can already tell whenever foolturds post photos (there’s a reason its all BS charts and dpreview screenshots lol)

They could spend $10k on “super fast” f2.8 equivalent glass and a ff dslr with a “soft” nifty fifty would still blow it out of the water. Even zach does a better job.
>bbbbut the ibis! sleeping cats dont move! tripods are too heavy for me! *trembles* -foolturders

>oh look a frenly mft thread
>it's been months, surely that faggot that shits up every thread (you all know the one) will be gone/dead/whatever
>*skims thread*
:|

>>4335993
>wah we can have a hugbox of lies and delusion without anon dropping truth bombs ever waaaa

>>4336011
The truth of what? That you're a mentally ill faggot?

>>4335993
>frenly
Literally opens with seething about full frame and a chart pulled out of someones asshole

>>4335925
the d lux 8 is exactly the same as the lx100 ii except it has a OLED EVF

>>4336035
the chart is based off photonstophotos data.

>>4335903
Oh yeah fuck me, I guess I forgot the part where I shot an abo to get my citizenship. Fuck off cunt. There's a difference between colonisation and giving retarded Indians "student visas" to siphon cash into universities and suppress wage growth in an economy going through a per capita recession. This isn't /pol/ but you're such a plain fuckwit I couldn't let that slide

>>4336070
>chart pulled out of someones asshole

Photons to Photos is junk.

>>4335903
there was no country, no society and no humans in Australia when europeans COLONIZED it.
abbos are fauna.

>>4336129
same for North and South America.

Hang on, could someone explain to me why we're comparing to 2 stops higher ISO on full frame? Is it just because of muh IBIS? Because that advantage isn't there in all scenarios. Also there are times when you'll be able to shoot full frame below ISO 400, so in those cases you're not going to magic some more DR out of nowhere with the 4/3s.

>>4336135
It's a m43 cope in some degree
>look guys it's slightly better at ISO 3200 compared to the r6mkii at 12,800!!
Cool, show the r6mkii at 3200 comparatively and show what the m43 looks like at 12,800 compared to the r6mkii at 12,800.
It's like they have to convince themselves they didn't waste money, when nobody actually gives a shit. Shoot what you wanna shoot, with what gear you have, simple as.

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>>4336142
I cannot find the objective reason why M43tards think the sensor size is equiv. I enjoy my M43 but small sensor = less performace, it's simple. These kinds of people are legit faggots trying to cope their way to justifing their purchases0hjrs. Cope cope, cope your boat, gently up shit sea. Merrily merrily merrily, fags begone from /p/

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>>4336148
Just a thought to add, M43tards are like niggers. Not every black guy is a nigger, but boy do they make it harder for the other guys

>>4336148
based chicken poster
And to be honest, some m43s are sweet little cameras, but like you said they are not comparable in certain regards.
You get incredible reach on a telephoto with a m43, which is sweet for bright light wildlife, but since most wildlife isn't in great light that's where even apsc kinda edges out.

>>4336150
Yeah, I have the oly 40-150mm and getting 300mm reach from a lens the size of an EF 24-105 is pretty great, but IBIS can only take you so far and some of my shots with that setup just need too much post work to be any good. Blame my hitrate all you want, if I even had my R50 on hand I'd get a workable shot.

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>>4336151
I upgraded from the R50 to the R6mkii myself and I have to say, the R50 is a GREAT little camera for the price. As long as you keep it at max 6400 iso it can get some decent shots.
It's no R7 but for how cheap it is, definitely took me farther than I ever expected trying out this hobby.
Still keeping mine with the rf-s 55-210mm on it, but might give that to my buddy who's interested in photography but doesn't make a whole lot money wise. Originally offered to sell it to him but think I'll do that as a early Christmas gift for him.
>>4336152
>mfw

>>4336152
11/10

>>4336153
It's almost like knowing your gear will have limitations until you're shooting 100MP medium format makes the hobby more enjoyable and less gearfaggy. Even if you do have top of the line gear you still need to know what the fuck you're doing or else you're still going to be producing shit.

Small M43s are a greater limitation, yet you can still make decent shots. But you'll have more noise, less DR, and less MP than any APS-C or FF. End of story. OP is a dumbass, and every one else should learn to make do with the gear they have and/or enjoy.

The R50 fits a great niche that M43 no longer makes sense to buy into. So anyone else reading this going "I want a small, light, semi-decent camera for non-pro uses", you buy an R50 or R10 and you enjoy the superior Canon everything with a bigger sensor and better lenses.

>>4336158
I'd also say some of the sony Alphas can fit that niche too with better lens selection, I just went with the r50 arbitrarily if I'm being completely honest.
>every one else should learn to make do with the gear they have and/or enjoy.
100% this, this board is obsessed with the dumbest shit, just enjoy what you have, the process, and getting out there taking photos.
What really blows my mind in the m43 space, is how expensive the top of the line bodies are, some pushing r5/r3 prices, seems like such an odd choice to pursue.
Modern mirrorless apscs are as small at m43 now, so I kinda agree it's not really a ecosystem worth pursuing in general, and for wildlife which is what I primarily shoot.
The best beginner wildlife combo in my opinion is the r50 with the rf100-400mm, for around 1100 total(buying brand new, used/refurbed it'll be around 800) it can do pretty amazing things with decent lighting. Definitely happy I went ff for ISO and general light performance however, it's a massive difference getting usable images at 25,600 vs 6400 on the r50, do miss the reach though so the rf200-800mm is calling my name kek.

>>4335737
fpbp

>>4336158
>>4336160
>APS-C is just as small as m43 now!
Until you buy lenses lol. It's physics. Bigger sensor -> more glass -> bigger size, heavier, more expensive.
To get an equivalent intensity of light at any one point on a sensor at a given field of view on a larger sensor, you need a larger entrance pupil, which needs all of the lenses in front of the aperture to be larger.
Don't get me wrong, modern lens design has come a long way and has helped reduce the size by a lot. But the most compact lenses on APS-C and FF tend to only get as small and light as the Panasonic Leica and Olympus PRO series lenses (ie. the high end, no-compromise lenses), and they make compromises to get that small (e.g. you're usually choosing between a compact lens with horrible sharpness at the edges and a quite limited aperture range for overall sharpness, if the lens is actually ever sharp at all, or a very large lens that maintains overall sharpness even if you want to open it up more than f/5.6 or f/4, or you're just sticking to primes (which m43 primes are still smaller lol)).

>>4336484
Then just lift?
I don't get people complaining about 1/2" to an 1" stickout distance on a lens and 2-6 ounces of weight.
>Only 3 lenses on Olympus are splashproof
wtf
>M.Zuiko Digital ED 150-600mm F5.0-6.3 IS
Is longer and heavier than the RF100-500 or the cheaper RF200-800mm(this is longer than the lens by a lot however, way lighter)
>S Series PRO 70-200mm F2.8 L-Mount Lens
50% heavier than the RF 70-200 f2.8 L and slightly longer
Can't be assed to dig into more, but every lens where weight would matter, or size, the FF options are better. Maybe streetshooters are just really weak and need the tiniest lil pancakes?

>>4336559
NTA
>I don't get people complaining about 1/2" to an 1" stickout distance
See >>4336527
But yes, that is a niche use case.

>>4336559
S Series 70-200 f/2.8 is a FF lens and internally zooms. I think it’s pretty comparable to the EF 70-200 f/2.8

>>4336576
That I can definitely understand for a niche usecase. But at the same time, can have a harness and a bag which would make things easier in general regardless of m43/apsc/ff.
But realistically I don't see the majority of m43rds users having that specific usecase, especially when they're carrying bags already for street photography, dunno if many m43rds users do wildlife photography as I haven't seen it used in that capacity as much.
Hiking/camping? I do 3-5 miles multiple times a week with a FF body(r6mkii) and a RF100-400mm(it's light and pretty compact)while shooting unsupported without issue.
>>4336598
Oh didn't know it was internally zooming so that cancels out the length gain, neat. Stills weighs more however, just was going off the lens selection on their website compared to the RF since wanted to compare modern to modern at similar price points.

>>4336599
>dunno if many m43rds users do wildlife photography
notice how the ones that know nothing write the most

>>4336600
It's bad in lowlight which is really important, it has fantastic crop for when there is light.
Can you list some wildlife photographers I can check out that only use M43? I genuinely don't know any.

>>4336601
I could, yes

>>4336600
>ones that know nothing write the most
Word vomit cope in a shellnut.
>>4336599
If you're fine keeping you camera in the open, you sling it around yout body and refuse to give a single fuck about anyone who sees it. If not you carry a small bag and holy fuck look at that problem solved.
>inb4 "B-b-but I don't wanna carry a bag"
Are you poor or just autistic? What is a few hundred grams of fabric on top of what is already at least half a kilo for a camera+lens. It's inconveient? Gets in the way? So does a camera, so use your phone kek.

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>>4336604
Well, we're waiting. I'm being genuine, I'd like to check out there work.
I'm not against M43, if you like it and it fits your usecase, use it and enjoy it, I have no use for it personally. Just retards like op trying to compare DR at almost 1/4 of the fucking ISO is laughable compared to a real comparison
>picrel
>>4336607
I agree on your points, but you're coming off a bit spicy my guy lmao, honestly bag is preferred when you're cycling as you have water access and shit like that.
Personally I don't get people that are concerned about people seeing their camera, but that might be a street photography thing vs what I normally shoot.

>>4336613
>there
their*
I need more coffee

>>4336613
Here you go :)
https://gprivate.com/6c80u

>>4336615
>can't provide a single example
>googling it just provides hits for "Micro four thirds for wildlife photography", "Micro four thirds vs full frame for wildlife photography" or forum posts, and one Medium article
>including from your lmgtfy bullshit
I don't doubt they exist, provide some names. You said you could, so do so.

>>4336618
>goes from asking whether I can do something to demanding I do so
I don't like the cut of your jibe, so mm.... nope don't think I will :)

>>4336619
lmao you do you man, I just like looking at photos of wildlife and taking them myself, I don't care about brand, lens, or body that took them.
You said you could provide them, then gave a bullshit link which still didn't show any, and now you're backpedaling. I've seen good photos on flickr with m43rds from checking just now, but I don't know any dedicated wildlife photographers that use it and would like to see what they do with it vs the 60% out of focus shots on flickr or that are Kenrockwelled TM editing(this is for any camera/lens lmao flickr is wild).

>>4336613
Sorry mang wasn't specifically singling you out. Just I see too many spergs flop around like we didn't invest carrying apperatus' centuries ago.
The is a blue board, nobody deserves to be called a retard until they do, and for some reason too many MFTards incite that aincient rule

>>4336622
No worries mang, this board is filled with vitriol and cankerous assholes in general lmfao.
Blue boards aren't exempt from shitflinging in general, /k/ is broooootal for it. Same with /fit/.
Just was funny seeing the heat when you were agreeing with me lmfao.

>>4336621
nta but virtually all the om ambassadors are wildlife I think

>>4336625
I'll check their site if they have an ambassador page/link, thanks man!
That reach must be nutty on a good telephoto, especially an expensive prime wide aperture.

Micro four thirds is ok for wildlife videography - for an amateur. Possibly the best - for an amateur.
If you're a pro I have no idea why you would do that to your customers

For literally any form of photography beyond digishit-esque pioint and shitting with 0 standards i don't know why you'd do that to yourself

FF isn't exactly heavy. The only advantage it has is that to do "good" video on FF, you need to spend a shitton, but FF owns the stills market hard, sorry.
>inb4 reach per dollar per pound
The photos and 3 program pipeline AI cope speak for themselves. It sucks.

>>4336624
>vitriol and cankerous assholes
zoom zoom pseud

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>>4336484
>until you buy lenses
>it's physics
if the lenses are larger its because they have larger apertures rather than smaller """equivalent""" ones. no one actually wants to use an f8-12 zoom. $500 tamron budget lens tier.

>>4336640
nta
Is it just me or are both of those lenses ugly designs?

>>4336642
All the "good design" lenses (read: leica glass) you're used to only have two things in the lens: aperture blades and a focusing helicoid

Modern lenses are closer to old hasselblad lenses because as much shit is crammed into them as possible. With all the motors they might as well add a shutter.

>>4336644
>might as well add a shutter
Adding a leaf shutter would be great, could be relatively cheap way to up x-sync speeds (rather than designing a whole new camera)

>>4336646
Nobody cares about an extra stop of flash sync enough to give up shutter speeds that go over 1/500 except for the 500 people that are still using hasselblad

>>4336642
They do look third party.

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>>4335736
based mftCHAD

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>>4336665
This same website "says" that that niggon APS-C has the same DR as the G9II

In real life, it's noisier even at base ISO

That is because these charts are not adjusted for real sensitivity or sensor area, nor do they actually indicate how many stops of real dynamic range you have. "Photographic dynamic range" is ironically named because it does not correspond to photography. At all.

They are invalid for comparing cameras, and invalid for deciding if a camera has sufficient real world dynamic range. They are only good for knowing where the sensor switches to another gain circuit or if bill was better at this, when the firmware turns on NR (the gear homo can't actually detect all forms of NR, or isn't an honest reviewer, or else the G9II would be nothing but triangles in line with its visibly smeared noise, just like the A9II)

Since all mfturds can post is charts here's a chart to stay on topic lmao!

>>4336668
the only DR measurement that should matter to g9ii users is log/raw base ISOs (measured, not labeled)

this is because the G9II is purely a video camera. the stills are too low quality to justify even $1000. camcorders have always had lower image quality because everyone watches video as 8mp motion blurred frames that pop up for a fraction of a second.

who the fuck would really want to use a lens like an f8-12 zoom? a videograper.

>>4336668
bbbbbut the dr boost! i never go over 1/60 anyways
the ibis! all my photos are 1s at the shortest because my cat is actually dead and i've had him on dry ice so i could still have something to take photos of

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>>4336668
>full instead of comp
based niggonTARD

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>>4336665
That website literally has a disclaimer saying you cant use the charts to compare different cameras. It's right there. Right under the chart you screen-capped. Look, you could scroll even the slightest bit down and use the smallest part of your brain and eyesight and read the fucking words that say exactly that. Dickhead.

>>4336674
>a-actually you're meant to scale them all down
The G9II still looks worse than a literal toy camera

It's just not a stills camera. It's not meant to produce quality you can sit there and admire. Its a camcorder that is weirdly SLR shaped. If you want to use it for stills and scale everything to single digit mp for instagram, you might as well get a 1" PNS/bridge camera. Same thing.

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>>4336679
>That website literally has a disclaimer saying you cant use the charts to compare different cameras
Yes, on SOME of the OTHER charts that haven't been posted, dumbfuck. Makes sense why an Aussie can't read though.

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>>4336679
>It's right there. Right under the chart you screen-capped
ah yeah I see it now! thanks for the heads up!

>>4336682
look at you have an all caps meltdown over a nophoto gearfag chartardation website
>Note that the x-axis is ISO Setting and not a "measured" value. Keep this in mind particularly when comparing to the Ideal lines.
he literally tells you the charts as presented can not be used to compare cameras. photons to photos is not a comparison website. it is for (poorly) analyzing the gain structure of cameras in isolation.

if you don't understand why this footnote matters, gearfaggotry is actually too complex for you. listen, i know gearfaggotry is your real hobby. i know you're not an artist. there is no image you have a passion for making. no landscapes, no portraits. you might have taken your camera to a nearby park for 1-2 days just to impress 4chan last time we called you a worthless nophoto faggot, but then you went right back to being a worthless nophoto gearfaggot. but gearfaggotry is too compelx for you. you're not smart enough for it.

those of us who are smart enough for gearfaggotry, are also smart enough not to start threads about made up numbers derived from misinterpreted charts, and the only time we discuss it is to correct retards regarding the facts and their significance

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>>4336686
because some SUBHUMANS can't read

>>4336682
>>4336683
>Complete fuckin morons. The entire site tells you not to compare hardware against each other

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>>4336687
and yes i do know exactly who you are

the chances of there being more than one person obsessed with poorly made, misalbeled noise charts and the g9ii are extremely low

you are an awful photographer. you do not know how to use a camera. you are visually illiterate. peoples dog and cat snapshits are more compelling than your god awful noisy statues that you shoot at 1/750 despite "100 stop ibis".

i genuinely feel sorry for you knowing how much money you spent, especially knowing you live in a third world country, to use this camera for stills, when the actual image quality is so awful. then again you are a third worlder. maybe you didn't know better.

anyways, i feel like telling you why pic related happens despite the claff chart (again) would be a waste of time. you've been told literal hundreds of times by dozens of different people. you are not intelligent enough to get this.

you are not intelligent enough to discuss camera technology.

i would tell you to shut up and go take a photo, but you've already proven you suck shit at that and only bought a g9ii so you could argue on 4chan. if you feel this is an unfair assessment, post a good photo that doesn't make you look like a joke of a gearfag.

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>>4336690
>words, words, words
'bout time to head back to /lit/?

>>4336691
>if you feel this is an unfair assessment, post a good photo that doesn't make you look like a joke of a gearfag.
>You: "I refuse"
then you agree that this is a fair assessment. you are not, and never will be a photographer. you aren't particularly intelligent either and make a terrible gearfag.

concession 100% accepted. i'm heading off to make tea now. you may remain in your shithole thread started with a nonsensical chart, posting more nonsensical charts, while the rest of us take photos. "lol".

>Smart gearfags: What's the final output size, print dpi, and viewing distance? How are you processing these photos? Then we may answer, which camera gud.
>dumb gearfags: PHOTONS TO PHOTOS CHURT!

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>>4336692
>I consneed
KEK

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>>4336695
parting shot

>>4336692
>i'm heading off to make tea now. you may remain in your shithole thread started with a nonsensical chart, posting more nonsensical charts, while the rest of us take photos
>>4336697
>parting shot
>shot
LMAO

>>4336690
Is it really the same fag who spent a year of his turld world wages on an f2.5 “noctitron” so he could take a really poorly composed portrait in a ghetto playground

>>4336613
the Cannot would be 2 stops underexposed in that comparison, retard.

>>4336668
same as >>4336702
read the table again, stupid.

>>4336702
>>4336703
turd worlder failing at math and basic logic in real time

>>4336703
>READ THE TABLE SAAAR! YOU DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE IBIS STOPS OR PHOTONS TO PHOTO CHAART SAAAAAAAAR
No rajesh. None of that is how photography actually works.

>>4336705
that's exactly how it works pajeet.

>>4336706
>npc double digit iq turdie can only post “no u”
monkey see monkey do

you only post flat earth tables and charts because making up “facts” is easy but showing what you mean in real photos is impossible (and your photos are too embarrassing to post)

Reminder the person you are talking to believes micro four thirds gets “more intense” light at the same fstop and shutter speed. He is an actual idiot. He is too dumb for middle school math. The anon insulting his intelligence has the right idea.

>>4336707
but enough about yourself

Same shot, same DoF, same exposure

>m43: f/2.8, 1/100, iso 200
>FF: f/5.6, 1/100, iso 800

Table in the OP applies.

>>4336710
>you NEED to shoot with the same DOF and shutter
But in real life you have a lot of wiggle room so, you don’t, and then the larger format still has less field curvature, better tonality, and overall better rendering because DOF and SNR are not the only characteristics of a photo

In real use equivalence either never happens or the larger camera looks better even when shooting worse than equivalently

>>4336710
The table in the OP is straight nonsense derived from unadjusted figures because OP is a buck toothed thirdie who is legitimately too stupid for his gear hobby

Notice he didnt post any g9ii photos of his own. He’s well known but in a bad way like moopco and olympanon - as a bad photographer who proves his own gear theories wrong by accident.

>>4336711
In real life most FF bodies have 2-4 stops of IBIS inferiority, if you like to talk "real life".
"tonality" is a subjective cope, "rendering" is pseudo-cope and a function of the resolving power of the lens compared to the sensor resolution.

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>>4336714
>muh ibis
Tripod is infinite ibis. Just don't be gay.

>>4336703
Your table is wrong because you used incorrect data to make it. That's it. Your "m43 DR advantage" requires unrealistic settings that people don't actually use because in daylight it's hard to actually open the aperture enough at base ISO, and with normal, non high speed cameras the fabricated "DR advantage" is roughly equal to the ISO labeling discrepancy and the errors inherent to the incorrect definition of dynamic range used on p2p sharts. The principle and the data used are both bunk. You lost before you even began.

Now, I'm going to make your chart thread my bitch. Since you have gone
>118
posts without posting any photos this is now my thread, for photos i thought were too boring even for /rpt/. You can leave now. Thank you for saving me a 5 minute captcha wait

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This is the fate that should await flat earthing chartposters

Nophotos get photo'd on until they learn to snapshit or shut up

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>snapsharts
Still, thanks for the bump :)

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>>4336730
this isn't a bump you should be proud of. i just used your chart thread to save five minutes and post some photos that didn't deserve their own thread or even space in /rpt/. i didn't even edit some of these.

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maybe some film snapshits

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Thank you for waiting out the 5 minute thread creation timer, OP. Without your off topic troll thread that has 0% to do with photography you would not see this one ok photo (its film of course).

Ciao

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>zoophile finally went back to /an/
aww, come back, we need you to keep bumping the thread

>>4336739
>the nophoto cringes and squeals before the might of throwaway snapshits i didnt even print
>u-ur a zoophile, he says
>his twisted gearfag mind, when confronted with something other than a chart, goes straight to sex
sad

>>4336739
you cant do better? going to post another chart?

>responded in less than a minute
hit the nail right on the head, huh? zoophiles are so predictable. it's always huskies.

nophoto foolturd lost and he keeps making it worse for himself lmfao

literally cant compete with huskyfag’s unwanted snapshits even 1 year later

>inb4 he accuses me of being huskychad/4x5 dude and his bestiality accusations get more graphic

>>4336742
How would you know it’s always huskies? Wouldnt it logically be labs, poodles, or golden retrievers because they’re larger, more common and more obedient? Explain.

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>>4336744
>How would you know it’s always huskies?

>>4336746
>The nophoto maggot fool turd is also the zoophile that stalks me on /an/
Surprise surprise. What's next, cANON is bugguy?

I'm sure his (your) posts where he reposted photos of my dog while making faggy bestiality claims are also in his (your) screenshot folder

>>4336748
so this micro fool turder is only here because he's obsessed with wanting to fuck your dog and he stalks you on 4chan
he came here because your dog reminded him of his favorite "petlust" video and developed an interest in dynamic range charts later

am i understanding this correctly

>admits to being a zoophile
pretty sad even for 4chan standards.

>>4336731
>the huskyfucker is in my half of the country
oh god

>>4336709
You've made a frequent habit of going out with a whimper in any given argument.

If you can't be an inspiration, I guess you can always be an example.

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>>4336749
Yes. You are. This is so niche (and hard enough to find on archives that only the person who remembered making the posts would know where to find and screenshot them) that the probability of it being anyone else is basically 0.

There's this zoophile on /an/ who is obsessed with wanting to fuck my dog, tries to tell other people I fuck my dog, and now he's on /p/.

>>4336750
You've been trying to spread this lie for about 2 years. You even reposted my photos of her while trying to pretend to be me to fabricate the proof. What gives? If I remember correctly this only got rolling immediately after I told a stray zoophile something like "leave 4chan and go get skinned alive" and he went on a brief tirade about repressing zoos and thinking i was a janny

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>>4336752
>husky
Yes
>Fucker
No, you're getting that from the same retard that hates 8x10 macro guy
>My half of the country
I travel a wee bit

>>4336753
he could have just posted a photo to show how much better his g9ii was but instead he outed himself as an animal fucker who stalks /an/ posters

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dogposting!

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DOG POSTING!

I have 3 rolls with fresh dog snaps on them waiting to be developed

MORE DOGS SOON!

>>4336759
>he hasn't broken the om-5 yet
My epl5 broke within a few days
>thwacked on the way out of the car
>RIP

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>>4336763
Please redo this in black and white so it can be art

>>4336752
just stay away from the PNW and you're safe

>>4336799
>just stay away from the range of trilliums
>this happens to be the entire united states

>>4336802
>Trillium ovatum
>entire united states
retard

Oh look, Huskyfucker decided to shit up the mft general thread what a surprise
Complete fucking faggot dog fucker
So sad he was not loved as a child and now seeks negative attention as a result (also pounds puppies)

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>>4336808
Can't take photos when it's roasting outside

>>4336811
Lol I'd slay for those temps rn (not really it's only a few degree difference where I'm at)

On positive side makes getting out for golden hour in the morning a bit more worth it

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>>4336813
>not really it's only a few degree difference where I'm at
it's not that bad

>>4336808
lol look at this meltdown level of seethe because huskychad graced your chart thread with photos

>>4336817
160 posts and the only good photos are huskychad and the germong niggor. Everything else is charts and seethe. Business as usual.

>>4336738
>>4336737
>>4336735
>>4336731
>>4336722
Good photos

How come everyone else is posting about charts and being bestiality schizos? Why don't the mft people post pics?

>>4336754
That's disturbing. I hope this guy gets caught with his puppy porn collection and arrested.

>>4336759
My man

How do you blow highlights indoors

Why are you shooting a sleeping dog with a fast shutter and wide aperture

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>>4336817
>huskychad
>>4336820
>huskychad
>first instance of term usage was from huskyfucker
you ain't fooling anyone, huskyfucker

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>>4336823
>Why don't the mft people post pics?
People are assholes here. I stopped posting in MFT threads probably last year or a little later.

>>4336823
There are very few actual mft users here, not enough to warrant a general. It's a dead system like 1". These generals are mostly made by an actual lunatic. The lunatic has very few photos to post because he is not into photography, he's into trolling, and charts, and apparently, is a bestiality troll from /an/ who came here because he heard some of his "enemies" from /an/ (ie: huskychad, LF doggo god) were already here.

If you want mft photos, they're in actual photo threads that do not use made up DR tables as OP images. The sole purpose of this thread is basically waiting for two specific people to dump the photos they passed on posting earlier and ignoring everything else that goes on because they both enjoy trolling the lunatic back.

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>>4336811
>Spocucks confirmed for slightly worse off

>>4336826
wow you sure are mad at huskychad

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>>4336838
Nice third world country you live in.

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>>4336831
>There are very few actual mft users here
Wrong
Also poor lil mft users have to resort to removing exif data to avoid that one super autistic faggot

>>4336852
The funniest part is that the vitriolic exif brand watcher IS an mft babby

>>4336823
Because there are maybe 3 mft users that havent already jumped to dirt cheap ff/apsc mirrorless and they all suck

Also lmao @ huskychads quality going up 500x the moment it’s on film. Typical of digital.

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>>4336852
>Also poor lil mft users have to resort to removing exif data to avoid that one super autistic faggot
It's geotagged so 4chan removes it. It's a nice side effect but I wouldn't bother removing it manually.

>>4336763
Those are the eyes of an abuse victim

>>4336879
Just post a photo

Also, your "i know where you live" attempt fell way short. There's only a certain number of people that would even think that btw. As far as crazy 4channers go, all of them are zoosadist trolls who stalk /dog/ on /an/.

>>4336891
>As far as crazy 4channers go, all of them are zoosadist trolls who stalk /dog/ on /an/.
take your meds, huskyfucker

>>4336897
>Take your meds
I'm not the one obsessed with bestiality, bud.

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>>4336865
flour posting hehe very nice
>>4336898
t. man who engages in intercourse with a husky then posts pictures of said dog in the wrong thread to get (You)s because only other way he gets attention is with peanutbutter

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>>4336901
It's not about me, it's about bullying you for being a fake DR chart gearfag.

I post photos. You struggle to produce a single poorly color graded photo of a mimosa. The theme is, he who charts the most, photos the least.

The more detailed your bestiality themed "insults" get the more obvious it becomes what you really are btw. Possibly even, who you really are. This is more satisfying than muh (you)s.
>Thinking I live in spocuck
Seriously, there's only so many people who had that cross their minds. All of them admitted to being zoosadists. All of them call me a zoosadist because they know I hate zoosadists. Not a good look for you.
>your dog visits a park in a medium sized shitty one time

>>4336902
Who do you think you are talking to anon? Are you feeling ok? I don't post charts, you must be schizo'ing out LOL

>>4336912
We'll never know for sure, but you seem a little nervous and you're in the exact right thread at the right time on a slow board with 30 people on it to perfectly agree with a nutcase who has screenshots of totally-not-him talking about the satanic porn he's seen.

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>>4336920
>We
Schizo confirmed
Think it's time you take your meds
Also couldn't care less where you live, almost dead certain bestiality is still illegal there

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>>4336921
>n-no well actually i dont care you're the crazy one not me
your concession has been accepted for review, have a nice day

>>4336922
Again I never said I cared, because whoever you were getting humiliated by earlier was not me (props to that anon tho!)
I was jokingly calling you a schizo but now I see it is true. You are a schizo dogfucker

>>4336924
Nothing schizo about it. Someone has been trying and failing to stalk and dox me for a while, and "not you" posted something only they would know. If you butted into someone elses conversation and got confused for them, there isn't schizophrenia there, you're just an idiot. If you are them samefagging then that's just sad.

>>4336925
>butted into someone elses conversation
This is an imageboard you stupid dogfucking faggot
Learn to read lmfao

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Ahh glad the puppygroomer is gone

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>>4336926
>Learn to read
Read what
"those are the eyes of an abuse victim" which that person has been repeatedly saying for a while? Seems like a weird thing to be an organic meme, doesn't it? Do you just repeat whatever schizophrenics say because someone bullied not-you for posting made up charts?

It's also totally organic that I was able to post on /p/ without being called a dogfucker until the pet contest got linked on /an/.

You can call it schizophrenic, because gaslighting is the only option the schizo would have besides admitting the truth, but even if it's not true you're falling in lock-step with a schizphrenic retard from another board who supposedly actually did rape a dog.

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>>4336928
They really did a number on you huh

>>4336930
People are generally bothered when someone follows them around and calls them a dogfucker, yes. Especially bothered when that person, when they were more active on /an/, actually was a dogfucker and repeatedly posted images of severely abused animals.

It would be a shame if you were that person, instead of just perfectly agreeing with them from the very moment they shut up.

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Dunno what attracts Cynophilist to the mft threads, pretty creepy all in all
Dogs are man's best friend
To quote some jap survival comic "You don't fuck your dog"

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>>4336932
This is going to blow your mind
>>4336930
That wasn't me
LOL dude you are broken

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