Have you tried increasing saturation? Like in color balance.

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1 Remove filmic rgb
2 Select velvia and local contrast
3 Choose base curve

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>>4348762
No shit dummy I thought you meant like like in swap margarine for butter

>>4348765
Let's give that a go then, tks

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cartoony?

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>>4348768
Looks good to me, at least the blues aren't lost in a sea of gray and the grass looks green.
Cloudy days aren't the best to look for intense colours.
T. GH5iifag

>>4348770
Yeah it was a gloomy day, am just playing about with it to see what it can do.

Any other filters any good?

>>4348766
Why are you being mean to me man

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>>4348801
ser your statue appears to be glowing

>>4348762
or use the color zone module

First thing I noticed with "new" Darktable was how every single photo was by default dull and washed out. Then some people on /p/ suggested to turn off filmic RGB module, turn back base curve module BUT with turned off "colour preservation" in its options. And suddenly pictures look saturated again.

What happened to DT development team that they force solutions that clearly works inferior to old methods?

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>>4348759
Yeah. Don't use darktable. Recently on /p/ some darktable luser wrote a fucking novel arguing about it and posted THIS as an example of "correct, lifelike colors".

I have never, ever, EVER seen a darktable user produce something with good colors no matter how much experience and knowledge they have or claim to have. Profiling cameras down to the hue twists is literally impossible without over $10k worth of calibrated equipment. Freetards are NOT ABLE TO DO THIS. Full stop. It is the same level of incapability as a cat being unable to speak fluent mandarin chinese. There are hard limitations involved.

Use real software. If it's free, and you can download the source code, the real price is all the time you'll waste before switching to something developed by competent people instead of retarded volunteers.

>inb4 dorktable users screech SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE I INSTALLED ARCH LINUX SO IM SMART
If you were smart, you'd be in a higher income bracket and able to afford a mac.

>>4348759
>anyone have any suggestions
Capture one is $14/mo
Lightroom classic is $10/mo
Less than 1 hr of work flipping burgers

>>4348963
>writing a novel about someone writing a novel
you should ask him for rent

>>4348964
I don't believe in subscription programs.

>>4348965
Being stupid enough to be made fun of after the fact isn't a "win condition" unless you have like, actual clinical narcissism blended with BPD/ODD.

>>4348967
Bad photographers conveniently believe that everything that would leave them short on excuses is "the jews" or something. It's very common. Either shoot jpeg, or process with real software. The manufacturer's free raw processor, LRC, and C1 are your options.

If you are artrepro fag and spend a few grand profiling your camera per-illuminant then maybe you can use rawtherapee

>>4348971
You're getting autistic over irrelevant bullshit

>>4348974
>You are right. Everything freetards make is basically unusable unless you have no life, no creative spark, and no human soul.
Thank you for admitting defeat.

>>4348962
That's on purpose. They wanted to separate exposure from color balance entirely, so filmic and base curve are just concerned with exposure. You should use them with color balance rgb, which offers better control. Try the "vibrant" preset if you like saturation. I have a preset that turns filmic off and sigmoid (simpler and good enough for me) on, then turns color balance rgb on with the standard preset.

>>4348963
It's not as easy to use as lightroom but it can certainly do a lot better than that, that's clearly user error.
>real software costs money
lmfao, wait until you find out the mountains of free libraries and tools that get used by pros to build garbage that they then charge money for

>>4349021
>"Free libraries and tools"*
>*maintained by the US government and Microsoft

>>4349021
sigmoid is just as stupid especially with how it destroys highs like filmic does
darktable is stupid

If you just shot film, you wouldn’t even be worrying about making your photos look good. They’d just come back from the lab looking like bangers, without all this fussing over them. Come home white man.

>>4349055
*They'd come back from the labs $10,000 low res CCD scanner looking like bangers after the guy who works there fixed the colors up

>>4348963
Well the colours I produced on my boat/harbour picture are pretty identical to the output of PS, so I'm gonna ignore your screeching and continue to try it. It seems to produce good results if you ignore the defaults.

>>4349052
The filmic filter isn't terrible but the points on the curve it defaults to seem pretty weird. It's okay if you move the white point slider usually way down (?) though I'm still not sure really what it's doing or meant to be doing

>>4348759
this looks natural to me and probably how you saw it in real life
stop fucking around

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>>4348765
Hey, base curve works a treat, good suggestion

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>>4348759
I really like how mellow this looks. Why edit it?

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>anti-vibrance
just turn it up? i dont know why people get so caught up with the defaults being muted

>>4348963
While Darktable colors do tend to be trash, it's not due to some mythical (((color science))) that only adobe can figure out. It's because the devs have shit taste or possibly eye/brain damage. This is obvious by the fact that disabling a few of the default settings makes it way better.
Rawtherapee gives better results IMO and it is also open sores. The UI is worse though.

>>4348971
>The manufacturer's free raw processor, LRC, and C1 are your options.
Honest question, what about DxO and ON1?

>>4349124
I didn't think it was bad and it did suit the day, which was pretty grey and hazy. Just experimenting really.

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>>4349120
Yeah, IMO it should be the default instead of filmic
and you can change what curve you're using if you want to try different looks

>>4349127
Rawtherapees UI is what made me keep coming back to dorktable

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The scene trasnform DT uses (AgX) is honestly garbage, both from an objective point (blues are horrendously shifted into purples as exposure increases) and subjective.

Honestly I'd just use Resolve even for photos, though RawTherapee does the job too.

>>4349162
agree now I am purely using darktable
>>4348759
Thanks for this thread. I know know more about specific modules.

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This program isn't half bad

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Filmic RGB is good if you've blown out the hilights, but it produces a pretty compressed and flat looking image (this is using base curve and with filmic off, the previous was with it on)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzD965dTSvk

>>4349241
Holy shit the first thing he does is get the horizon level
It's a fucking miracel I tell you

>>4349164
Yeah and I could just go back to Windows and use the adobe suite, that isn't the topic

>>4349243
Are you sarcastic or genuine? It's hard to tell.

>>4349245
Resolve works on Linux, use the special fedora toolbox package.

>>4349246
Just a commentary on the number of people here that post really quite good pics that don't have the horizon level, like... you're clearly not blind, how does it not annoy the shit out of you

>>4349249
Understood. Mather there sooc fags.

>>4349250
Maybe they're *

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Tone Equalizer goes pretty hard too for brightening up dark parts of an image where you really would have benefited from an ND filter

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>>4349232
You have to use it together with black level correction in the exposure module. And, obviously, adjust white and black relative exposure.

>>4349279
Yeah that's nice, punchier blacks (kek) without looking too stark

I'm learning

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>>4348759
I tried just basic module

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Think this revision of this is gonna be the last one, local contrast, tone equalizer, rgb primaries to make the sky a bit bluer, happy with the result

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plz post the raw

>>4349289
Few tips:
>don't be afraid of more brightness
>preserve chrominance (in filmic rgb) to "no"
>fill the histogram
Exceptions apply.
Be aware of these, but use conservatively:
>local contrast between 110-120
>color zones module (with "select by") is very powerful
I have few presets for the latter, like greener grass, and several shadow lift curves.

>>4349309
>I have few presets for the latter, like greener grass

Yeah that's what I was looking for, a way to pick out the blue hues and make them bluer, nice for skies. I'll try color zones then

>>4349128
shameless bump

>>4349052
You can change the skew of sigmoid to preserve highlights

What's weird is how tone equalizer works in combination with exposure, so that when you lighten up the dark tones with tone equalizer, it weirdly combines with exposure in a way that's really hard to predict what's actually gonna happen to your image.
For example, if you use tone equalizer to shift up your -4 and -5 then adjust exposure to more exposure, the image can actually get darker.
I haven't quite figured out the best way to use this yet considering that

>>4349812
that happens because exposure comes before the tone equalizer, when you adjust exposure you're moving the histogram away from the -5 and -4 zones into -3 where you haven't lifted it.

>>4349812
That should not happen unless you invert the EV gradient somewhere (e.g. lifted -4 EV is brighter than lifted -3 EV). Unless filmic or other modules fuck with it further.

>>4349818
But it does, try it and see for yourself
If you set -6, -5 and -4 all to +1 (which I presume shifts them all up by 1) then adjust the exposure something weird happens

>>4349813
That's what I figure, which makes no sense, surely it should by default be applied after? Because exposure is a global correction (which should apply first) and tone equalizer is a non-global correction (which should apply after any globals)
Not that I'm the expert or anything, perhaps I'm not using it the way you're expected to use it

Are there any working sources for DT styles? I remember site called "dtstyles.net" but it's not working anymore. Even if, DT keep removing modules like crazy so they probably wouldn't work anyway. I hate that, styles were good practical examples on how various modules works.

>>4349237
Yeah, I don't know why but I can never get as much contrast with filmic as I can with base curve or even sigmoid. I've heard filmic can do everything sigmoid can, so I assume I'm doing something wrong, but still.
>D80 chad
Nice. I had good experiences working with files from old Nikon in DT. Using my modern Olympus camera takes more work but I can get what I want.

>>4348768
The background could use some light dehazing too, if your goal is vibrance. The most important part of anything is your actual exposure. A shot on a dreary day will look dreary naturally. This >>4348765 on the other hand will look vibrant naturally.

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>>4348963
Hi Bill - I made this picture in darktable I thought the colors really popped.
Pretty good one. Thing is bad ass.

Wouldn't mind taking one of those girls home, if you know what I mean hah hah.

-Jim "Bubba" Lutz
Shot on my Canon Rebel T6i via Tapatalk

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>>4349935
Darktable does what Nintendon't

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>>4349948
>remove filmic
>add snoy curve
Day and night

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>>4349950
>add saturation
Aaaand perfect

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>>4349951
My eyes are bleeding.

>>4349948
Try using color balance rgb with the preset vibrant colors. Filmic isn't inteded to use colors, it's for when you want precise control over JUST the exposure. Base curve (without preserve colors or whatever) is for when you don't care.

>>4349968
That first version is the baseline DT gives you, untouched, in fact the only one where I touched a slider was in the eye-solvent version

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Anyway, my point was that DT sucks all the colour out of a photo by defayult, but you can bring them back quite easily

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>>4349968
>Filmic isn't inteded to use colors
Uh it's one of the defaults
What exactly do you mean?

>>4348759
This looks a little desaturated but we can see it's a very overcast day and you actually lose contrast+saturation in the real world on distant things, the boats look fine.
The lens probably isn't great.

post raw?
also most images you see are over saturated which might make you biased and lean towards an unnatural goal, if you want that, adding 5-15% saturation in the literal saturation module and you can get the mildly oversaturated poppy color look

>>4349955
your fault for not using a 64% srgb coverage monitor with too many nits

>>4350360
Can you actually post a raw here?

>>4350557
No, you can upload them to google drive, dropbox, etc and link to it though.

>>4349811
>program's own manual says "it is best to refrain from using skew values above zero" for portraits because skin tones
>while ignoring that it lops off the entire right eighth of the histogram regardless of what the subject is and turns landscapes into play-doh
Darktable is such a mess.

>>4348963
this must be a special kind of /p/ autism because that image looks fine

>>4350706
>t. rockwell eyes

>>4350706
The sun is so low on the horizon that it's given everything a color cast

>>4350715
yes we all know that when the clouds are still white, everything turns yellow and pink.

tints in white balance are only for photorealism under artificial light. they have 0 use for photorealism in natural light. this is a creative edit, not "true to life". it's also kind of a bad one.

>>4349946
>b/o/omer/p/osting
fucking lmao, based

Any tips for pulling out more colours for something dark like this >>4350281 or
>>4350282? Not to make it too vibrant or anything. Just want to highlight the contrasts and natural colours a bit in the dark.

>>4350731
better lighting

>>4350736
I mean, using darktable in post

>>4350832
postfags never know when to quit
sometimes you just have to take the shot over, there's a reason why people use proper lighting to begin with
not everything can be fixed in post

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I have this dark table which has been in the family for a couple of generations. Its a really dark, tabacco colour oak table. Thoughts?

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i've had dull results from darktable kind of often. sometimes it looks super flat and smply increasing contrast and chroma/saturation doesn't do the trick

>>4348759
RTFM
https://docs.darktable.org/usermanual/4.8/en/overview/workflow/process/

You can automate most of these adjustments to get a better starting point

if you want to listen to those who tell you to "turn off filmic and turn on base curve", there is a setting to do this by default - then you will need to look up a manual for the older work flow
I don't recommend it tho

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>legacy
I use a few auto-apply presets:
rotate -2
basecurve, ricoh like, preserve luminance none
colorbalance saturation 106%
crop 1:1.5
exposure, black point, 0.0050

and then just adjust exposure a bit when processing
pentax k5 btw

the luminance bit is the part that pissed me off the most, it tends to make everything look all pastelly and weird. The spergs steering the development of most photo editors these days seem to guzzle it by the gallon though.
It wont be long before 'auto shadow and contrast' is forced on by default too.

>>4353434
its not that dark

>>4353438
darktable doesnt have well made camera profiles

>>4353440
those who claim one can merely learn rarely post anything good, maybe snoy jpeg tier, and prompt one to wonder, if one could merely learn why are not good settings contributed to the codebase? all other processors let you start with a usable, better than jpeg result (especially for cameras with shit or non configurable nr/sharpening) where 3-4 obvious as hell slider tweaks is all it takes to set up a default you like even more

why hasnt darktable pulled a linux and become the standard in SOME industry

perhaps the part where darktable users rarely post anything good unless its a film scan, meaning the required learning is actually beyond them, and consumer equipment for measuring and calibrating color

>>4355137
No one uses free software to get shit done. They use it to develop better backdoors for servers like the NSAs affinity for RHEL, or to spend weeks learning to accomplish baby shit. Good defaults would defeat the point. Darktable is the arch linux of raw editors.

>>4355138
>Bro get this
>I COMPILED my photo from SOURCE CODE
>No it doesn't look any bett-
>But it was such a learning experience! It took me 14 hours to edit this photo of my dog!
>I understand the process so well now
>Just make sure you don't compress it lower than 95 or else it won't save for some reason. Ignore that

>>4355137
who hurt you anon

>>4349300

This >>4349238 actually looks better

>>4355137
Because the maintainers are too autistic, they're convinced that their inane way of doing things IS the sane default. If you wanted to change anything, you have to fork and maintain it yourself. (That's actually what ansel is, but it's still wip).

>>4357422
Yep, dark table suffers the same retarded mentality that GIMP does, with a helping of “Do it different for the sake of being different”. Fuckin linux, rawtherapee had bullshit for the longest time where it would not let you browse thumbnails or view a folder in the file browser thing because “why would you need to do that just open it in your file manager?” And other such fucking retarded autism