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I have a plenty of pentax glass with k-mount I bought for my DSLR and a whole bunch of m42 lenses while I never had a pentax film camera.
Which one is the one to get? So far I've done a little reading and choice seems to be between either MX or LX. Are there any other models to be on the lookout for?

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>>4367132
The MX would be a better option over the LX unless you find a really good condition LX. Feature wise the LX is tempting, but its a fickle camera with a lot of expensive things to go wrong. Love mine, but an MX is just a safer bet. The MZ-S is good if you don't mind the modern styling aswell.

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I've been looking at an MZ-S for a few months now.
Trick me into buying it.
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>>4367384
it prints the shutter and aperture info between the sprocket holes

if I didnt have to pay for a trip to a friend's wedding id be holding one with a battery grip rn and planning on shooting some sports with my 150-450
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>>4367387
how is the autocofus compared to the old EOS film bodies for example?
I don't own any autofocus cameras at the moment. I shoot even birds with a 300mm with manual focus.
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>>4367390
It's okay, not amazing, but it's there from what i've heard. There's a few videos on youtube by people who used them for work etc back in the early 2000s I think that mention it being reliable but not fast
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>>4367112 (OP)
Seems like Clive is so desperate for attention he's making fake Pentax threads to shill Pentax pancakes. They are for DSLR so it doesn't make them smaller. Imagine being so pathetic you hate on Sony this much. How miserable is your life Clive?
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>>4367382
copped MX not long after posting, once I read more in depth about the issues that may affect LX
looking forward to using it
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>>4367397
shut up clive
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>>4367397
I know right its truly sad and pathetic to be a Sony hater. Any comment trashing Sony is posted by Clive. Guy probably works at an IHOP making pancakes.
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Now that the old thread is gone, I'll continue with the rest of the outdoor pictures.

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>>4367112 (OP)
Almost bought a K-3 III. I keep resisting the purchase button. It's dumb as hell, but something in me just kind of got sick of EVF's. No pretentious artistry crap about 'it's the real light', I just don't want to stare at another screen.

What lenses do you recommend?
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>>4369632
Any given DA limited lenses really
The 40mm f2.8 xs Über pancake for keks
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>>4367397
Stop trying to derail legitimate threads Colin
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>>4369753
Any specific lenses that stand out? Debating picking one up off of Amazon, that way I can return it, if I don’t like it.
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>>4370271
The 43mm f1.9 limited comes to mind
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Recent pic with minor edits. I shot this one in raw for a change.

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>>4369632
>It's dumb as hell, but something in me just kind of got sick of EVF's.
I feel the same way, but for me it's kind of pretentious: A DSLR feels like it's capturing an image once you see it on the back screen, instead of taking a screencap of the EVF stream. Especially if you use electronic shutter and burst modes with the mirrorless camera. Unfortunately I'm stuck with mirrorless because I bought the lenses.
>>4371540
Nice capture but the subject does nothing for me
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It's hilarious how good the K1 is with Pixel Shift but i have never been convinced about the glass in terms of price and variety.
If i ever get one i think of a kit composed of 15-30 f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8, FA Limited 21, 43 and 77 and maybe the 50mm f1.4 Golden Star... yet there's no cheap 200-5/600 f5.6 and no cheap f2.8 and below after the 85mm range, or at least cheap compared to Nikon/Canon, because the difference between a Nikkor 180 f2.8 and the Pentax version is just too much.
Also the old lenses have soft rubber rings, come on now. It's been years and the glass just isn't convincing.

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>>4371653
There's no subject
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redpill me on the monochrome dslr
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>>4371869
You can't see the corner of the building in that pic?
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>>4373074
Most of my pics have no subject

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>>4371729
The K1 is the best digital camera ever made and it's being buried by the lack of good lenses.
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>>4373221
Every image has a salient features though. Even this one I would say it's the orange looking tree
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>>4373221
>Most of my pics have no subject
That's literally impossible but a great cope for not thinking about your compositions
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>>4369040
I forgot I had posted that picture in the last thread. This one's new. f5.6

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>>4373221
>no subject
Wrong, your subject (green zone) is clearly the trail and the background (second red zone) compliments it due to leading lines pointing or going parallel with the leading line of the subject (shown in orange pointers) like the water body and the other trail, trees all give pauses and framing, including the ones in the foreground (first red zone).
If we could see the water body more clearly, as in no vegetation to cover it, it would be much nicer. But there is a subject, not wanting to see it means lack of discerning theory or >>4373241 a coping mechanism.
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Leaves in motion

>>4373581
Nice scene

>>4371729
Majestic. Not sure about the tree in the foreground.

>>4373588
Thanks for your detailed analysis. Next time I'm there I might go for a close-up on the stone light fixture thing near the middle.

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Can you or can you not disable the RAW denoising "feature" of the K-1 II?

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>>4378196
Why disable it if it gives less noise?
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>>4378551
All raw cooking causes artefacts when pushing shadows to avoid bracketing faggortry or when stacking for astro
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>>4373581
f11, but I wish it was a little lower so the pines were a little less prominent

>>4378196
I can't say 100%, but I think it's inherent to the accelerator unit and I saw a post from 2018 that it wasn't a switchable option and it was never mentioned in the firmware update summaries

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My vintage screw-mount 50mm isn't very sharp at max aperture. The pictures are quite hazy. Do the newer (K-mount) 50mm lenses like the DA50, F/FA50, HD FA50, etc produce sharper results?

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>>4378580
This is handheld f1.8 with the plastic da50 with the k70. The focus was on the eye.

I think there is a little softness at max aperture based off this and a couple of other test pictures. I posted a f1.8 test pic with the same lens of some silverware in a blue cup from my kx in a previous thread. It also had a little softness.

It's hard to tell against the screw mount without a direct comparison. I think the bokeh may be smoother with the da50.

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>>4378558
>i can't compose so no one can
Get good scrub
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>>4378847
>You need to follow some pretentious and arbitrary set a rules so that your photos look like everyone else's photos!!!
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>>4378551
because it's extremely retarded to do anything raw related in camera
it gets outdated before the camera is even released lmao
especially with denoising
remember when profiled denoising wasn't a thing?
remember when AI denoising (which is just a profiled denoising on steroids really) wasn't a thing?
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>>4378551
Destroys the image quality at high ISO or when recovering shadows, there's loads of videos showcasing this, the most common effect is purple tinging.
There's a reason Pentax fags swear by the original K1, II only had the added bonus of having japanese-only special editions that are rad as fuck. And also purple.
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>>4378973
>pretentious and arbitrary set a rules
There's no rules, only possibilities which are seen more and more depending on taste and experience, both given by watching photos and taking photos, both which also evade you due to not doing it.
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>>4378855
what, people aren't allowed to take photos of their cute figures?
>>4379379
>the most common effect is purple tinging
interesting, my mk1 also does this, but also only when pushed really hard
I don't have a mk2 to compare it against to see if it's just blatantly more obvious with that one

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>>4379441
Some mk. I bodies were retrofit with the mk. II sensor, if you bought it used or refurbished then it's probably the same problem, if not then you push it extremely hard.
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>>4379447
bought used but pretty sure it doesn't have the II sensor, since I only start seeing it start to creep in around effective ISO 51200
picrel is ISO 20000 +1EV w/ vignette correction for the D FA 24-70 2.8 which iirc is at least 1 stop in the corners
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>>4378551
>>4378554
kinda similar problem to snoyny star eater
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>>4379447
check where the symbol that says SR is. if it has a "II" in its place then it's had the guts switched out
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Does anyone have any strong opinions about the K-5 vs the K-7? I want to pick up one of them. I've been wanting a weather sealed crop body for a travel camera. I have the K-01, and I quite like the sensor and it is basically the same sensor as the K-5. But part of me wants to experiment with the older sensor.

I am also looking at two lenses, the Pentax SMC Pentax-DA 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 ED AL DC WR and the Pentax-HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6 ED DC WR

I'm temped to go with the 18-135, it's smaller, lighter, and cheaper. I'm not particularly fussed about image quality and I doubt I'll use the wider fov, but the 16-85 is only like ~$30 more.

Thoughts?

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No comment about those lenses. But I like the K-7 a lot. I've had it for about 1 year. K-5 is a newer model, so maybe it has lower noise at high ISOs

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>>4380145
Ironically I was considering the K-7 Because it'd be noisier I've started shooting all my digital bodies around 400-800 iso because I like a little noise in my images. But I was also really impressed with my K-01 at 8000, considering. I did find a good deal on a K-5 on ebay, so I put I bid in. If that doesn't work out, maybe I'll look more at the K-7
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Are there premium manual focus lenses for K mount? I've used a few Voigtlanders and Zeiss lenses over the years and I'm getting a hankering for them again but looking around it doesn't look like either company really made lenses for the mount. on ebay there are a few Zeiss lenses, but they are wildly overpriced. So what are my options? Should I adapt from another mount?
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>>4379543
did you mean to reply to >>4379455 ?
and yes I know about that, mine has all the markings for a non-upgraded mk1
so unless someone got the mk2 board upgrade but not the updated markings, I bought a standard mk1 (which is what I intended to buy)
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>>4378669
I think mine has a different level of sharpness depending on the subject distance. Close up ones look quite okay with +1 or +2 sharpness set in camera.

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>>4380762
But if the subject is farther away it doesn't look too good.

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>>4380763
Comparison

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>>4380406
voightlander makes/made k mout lenses, i think zeiss did too. there are some nice small modernish colour-skopar voightlanders in native k.
there is a way to convert nikon zeiss to k mount, its called zk mount. there was a boomer on pentax forums who was in to it.
seems like a waste of time to me when the limiteds are better in everyway except artificial benchmarks and clout. especially if you are paying zeiss money, just get a second camera
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The brotherhood of the solenoid failure

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>>4380763
That close up looks pretty sharp, but it does seem something's off with the far focus. It seems like some area should be sharp.

I took some more pictures in my living room with the K-70 from farther away 10-15 ft and I would say it was equivalent to what you see with the figure with the light softness, but no drastic changes. The figure picture gives a good idea of what to expect.

I also tried with the K-X and I was having a lot more trouble with the focus, but at least one of the f1.8 looked similar.

Probably any of the new 50s would be sharper just because it looks like something's off. The macro 50 is sharp at 2.8, its widest aperature.

>>4378570
f6.3 This turned out to be interesting with the ants, but I probably took it from the wrong angle.

>>4379955
Used? That seems like either a bad price for the 18-135 or a deal for the 16-85.
Based off what you said, it seems like the 50mm reach difference might be the thing to consider.

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>>4381269
>Used?
yes, used. I was mistaken though, it was like a $50 difference. The 18-135's go for about $150, there was a copy of the 16-85 on mpb for $200 with no hood, I should have grabbed it because now it's gone. I think the extra telephoto reach on the 18-135 wouldn't be used. But it is a smaller lens which is appealing to me, I'm not picky about optical quality. I guess it's just a matter of 'which do I buy first'. I want to try them out and see how I get along with each of them.
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>>4381269
>zoom in
>not just ants but
>RED ants
>:(
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>>4380769
>Limited FA better than ZF lenses
Surely you are coping, the L FA line is great but some Zeiss lenses are superb
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>>4381336
the law diminishing returns applies on Zeiss glass well
spending 2/3/4/5 times as much to get an almost indistinguishable optical performance is dare I say retarded
and I don't mean it in pentcuck vs zeiss glass only terms either
many high end lenses are as good if not better than Zeiss glass
IMHO zeiss glass is only worth it for the complete Contax larp (and some of the Contax cameras are indeed extremely nice like the ST or 167MT)
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>>4381269
It could be that I slightly misfocused the tree picture. It's very easy to miss the focus

Macro 50 might be an interesting option for nature photography. The new HD FA 50/1.4 seems nice too. too bad there aren't that many sample pics taken with it at f/1.4. Try your DA50 sometimes at f/1.8 with a landscape scene and post results. Curious

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Autumn evening

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>>4383314
I think I preferred the version of this one you said was underexposed, but it is a nice shot. I really like the color of the sky and the light on just the buildings.
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So I've been digging into my menus more and reading the manual a bit and the TAv mode is easily one of the best features I didn't know I wanted. It's great for shooting handheld in low light. It also seems good for dynamic environments. I know I've definitely missed shots because I saw something while in aperture priority and wished I had been in shutter priority to capture something with motion blur and it was too slow to change. I'm definitely going to play around with it some more.
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>>4383464
>pentax user discovers the wildlife setting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAEV1HyS8Bg [Embed]
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>>4367112 (OP)
is the weird puprle shit with the K1 Mk2 anything to really worry about or should i just get the K1
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>>4383672
Just get the K-1, it's cheaper and iirc the only real difference is that the mkii bakes in noise reduction to the raws, and I thought the denoised images looked worse than the ones straight from the K-1
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>>4381269
Last one, worse than the other yellow ants one.

>>4381520
Looking again, the top, dark part of the trunk may be in focus and it could just be all the leaves in front and behind that are not focused make the whole tree look blurred. I will try to get a da50 1.8 landscape for you, but I don't know when.

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The Pentax K-1 is too good. It's not fair, I don't have a reason to gearfag anymore. I think about buying something, then I think "yeah, but will it be better than the K-1?" and the answer is always no. It's fucking gay.
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>>4383765
what does the k-1 have over say the d850?
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>>4383832
pixel shift
better viewfinder
ibis
size
price
much nicer ergonomics
more aesthetically pleasing
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>>4383832
Much worse and fewer lenses
Autofocus off a d200
Meter bugs and broken mode dials
Gay spider legged screen that can’t flip up
Gimmicks you’ll never use like 0.5mm of shift for pc
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I managed to remove some of the yellowing from my vintage 50 lens. I left it under an Ikea lamp for about a week. No test shots yet. Pic unrelated.

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>>4385783
which Ikea lamp?
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>>4385785
The yellow one, duh
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Seriously considering getting a k3-iii monochrome. What lens should I get to complement it? Right now I'm looking at either the 24mm f/2 or maybe the 20-40mm f/2.8-4?

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>>4386452
The tragedy of pentax is unlike leica, they dont actually have a lens that holds up to this high pixel density+monochrome.
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>>4386452
>the 20-40mm f/2.8-4
Notorious for being pretty unique despite its lackluster speed and range
By unique i mean renders with the character of an old prime lens, odd for a APS-C zoom
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>>4386456
The new 16-50 plm zoom might come close if only one could afford it
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>>4386456
>>4386637
would be interesting to see how the 85 1.4 fares, seeing as it's unusable for color
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>>4386452
Looking forward to your future B&W threads of building corners and back of peoples' heads
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Just ordered a Samsung gx10 (pentax k10d) for cheap
Excited to see how it compared to a Nikon D70. Will keep it if the backfocus issues are manageable. Supposedly can dial it in using the debug menu.
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>>4386693
Prepare yourself for doing lots of focus bracketing.
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>>4386948
Received gx10. Focus was way off as expected. Dialed in as much as possible w/ debug menu. Kit lens is the softest lens I have ever owned by a mile. Here's a SOOC jpeg with in-camera sharpening maxed.
Might play around with it a bit more then hawk it off to the next guy. At least the camera itself is in great condition.

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>>4387626
Is that the original DA 18-55 kit lens and not the "II" version? I think overexposure is a bigger problem in that picture. Flower petals clip colour channels very easily in direct sunlight.

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>>4387647
it's a schneider-kreuznach d-xenon 3.5-5.6 18-55 AL.. which is a rebadged Pentax something or other
... You do realize that is just a test shot for sharpness right?
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>>4387647
Went back and checked the raw/jpg it's not overexposed, no clipping at all.
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Maybe I just expected too much.

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>>4387626
>>4387692
Looks pretty okay to me
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>>4387715
>pretty okay
Yeah that seems about right

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Seems like the AF even when dialed in is just unreliable. Same with exposure. At least the default colors seem nice for what it is. When it works it works... okay.

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>>4387771
>Image Created 2006:01:01 23:18:18
Don't forget to set your clock.
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>>4387836
It adds to the faux-authenticity of the snapshits
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Been interested in this lens lately. Anyone tried it on your cameras yet?

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I'm considering a Pentax DLSR because I have a specifically autistic desire for having the option to use the same lenses for both film and digital (ideally without adapting). I already own a Program A and a SMC 50/f1.4.
How is the experience of using these older lenses on the K-1/K-1Mk2?
Are the newer Pentax full frame lenses backwards compatible with the Program A? I know the focus rings tend to be quite quick and slippery on the new ones having owned a 20-40/f4 Limited - does anyone with experience consider this annoying?
How is the manual focusing experience in the K-1(/Mk2)? Is there an electronic focusing confirmation aid; is the focusing screen interchangeable for a split prism screen?
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>>4387874
The autofocus is somehow worse than a 2007 nikon DSLR, with a focusing screen that is so thick and low res you can see the fresnel lines better than critical focus. Switch to F mount to share between film and DSLRs if the gimmicks (ie: IBIS) dont matter to you
EF to share between film and mirrorless
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>>4387875
>muh canonikon garbage
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>>4387875
>EF to share between film and mirrorless
Aren't most EF lenses a bit bulky to be adapting for mirrorless cameras? Seems to defeat a major pro of using mirrorless over DSLR. Would rather have a chunky body with a small lens than the opposite. I know EF has a shorter flange distance than F so the problem isn't as pronounced for Canon but still.
Besides Pentax my other idea was to get a used last or previous gen Nikon DSLR platform for the Voigtlander lenses that are also perfectly compatible with my F3 and do better on digital than the equivalent AI-S.
The last (and probably most rational) alternative would be to grab a 1V to complement my 5D4 as I do have a couple EF lenses already.
Yes, my gear is very inefficient, it's mostly hand me downs.
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>>4387877
RF native lenses are also huge, and not even that good ($1500 24mm prime doesnt illuminate the whole sensor lol)

Its no sony/fuj
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>>4387874
I use pentax digital bodies and pentax mx with the same pentax and adapted lenses and as long as they have aperture rings will work on both and the A lenses will also be able to shoot on digital in aperture priority mode as the aperture can be controlled from the body. With M lenses you have to go to manual mode and use the green button to measure the light before shooting.
I'm really enjoying the experience overall
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>>4387874
There's a focus indicator for manual focus.
>>4387647
I like this.
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whats the appeal? i mean this nicely
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>>4387894
Top-tier bodies who can withstand tons of abuse and have tons of specs other brands do not have, great viewfinders, tons of button customization and modes, that's it i suppose
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>>4387894
I hate canonikon and snoy garbage like you wouldn't believe it
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>>4387894
Bodies are tanks, loads of cheap used lenses
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>>4387894
It's a hipster brand. Nothing more. Pentax is borderline out of business and no longer improving. In fact, if their newer FF lens and body lineup says anything, they have gotten significantly worse. The K1 had reliability issues with the meter glitching out and part of the mode dial falling apart internally, and the K1-II forces raw noise reduction for every photo that reduces its low light shadow pushing ability (sony does something similar if you enable shading correction in camera but at least you can turn it off).

The only thing they do that nikon does not is put weather sealing on their cheapest aps-c junk. Instead their cheapest trash has aperture failures. Yes, I know they have IBIS. They don't have a native tilt shift lens and OIS lenses are as effective as pentax's third rate IBIS. K mount can't adapt SHIT either. The autofocus is notoriously slow and a bit inaccurate. For a photographer these are overpriced, oversized cameras with significantly reduced utility unless you already own a mountain of K mount lenses.

So why is it a hipster brand? Because the pentax k-1000 was the default camera for most photography school students so hipsters buy a pentax to feel like they are more of a real artist than just another "camera guy". So they just have to hate other brands (often irrationally) to cope after spending a boatload on a k3-iii and a bunch of mirrorless priced lenses with SLR performance.

If you don't hate yourself get an a7c and weather sealed tamron glass. It's as durable as any pentax, if not more because there is less to fail.
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>>4387931
>muh snoykon garbage
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>>4387909
>tons of button customization
honestly I find it to be a bit limited
maybe they're just better than everyone else but I doubt it
if that were the case then what the fuck is everyone else even doing
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>>4387937
>then what the fuck is everyone else even doing
That's what i've been saying for 8 years, K1 still remains the best DSLR and probably will be for a long while
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>>4387885
Thanks a lot Anon

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What's a good and cheap lens for my K5, Looking for something that zooms to 200mm or there abouts
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>>4387931
As I read up on Pentax camera models and old forums posts, I find that almost every model has quality control issues/ flaws. Not to mention the lenses are inferior to the competition by a noticeable margin. I guess that's why the used market for Pentax cameras/lenses seems more affordable.
Not shitting on Pentax, I'll snag an a K5 sooner or later. They do make some nice jpegs imho.
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>>4367112 (OP)
I'm sure they're great, but Pentax always sounds to me like it's some kind of feminine hygiene product.
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>>4388063
>Forget quality, i need a cool name in my camera for my pics to be good
I don't know if you are bottom retard or peak artist
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>>4388082
>I don't know if you are bottom retard or peak artist
Bottom artist?
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SOOC colors are really quite nice
DPreview test chart doesn't do Pentax justice

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>>4388395
Not a fair comparison since the lighting changed in between shots but here's a shot from my D70 with contrast maxed (also SOOC). Pentax was at default everything for reference.

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>>4388396
>>4388395
Sharpness was maxed on both*
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Sisters, do anyone have a raw of a K50 that can share? I am on the fence about buying one. Yes I want a pink camera but I also want to use it for you know, actual photos.
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gear posting cause I tidied it all up a bit recently
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>>4390472
based
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>>4391130
+3 contrast

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Bargain bin Quantaray 70-300 seems pretty good

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>>4391156
It's excellent
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>>4391156

Major underrated lens, has apochromatic optics and honestly if you don't need VR or larger aperture, it's perfect.
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Dark forest vibes

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This one taken with a polarizing filter just to make a slightly longer exposure.

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>>4394244
pentax moment
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Some test pics taken with the HD Pentax-FA50 F1.4 lens

https://www.yaotomi.co.jp/blog/walk/2023/05/-hd-pentax-fa-50mmf14-2023.html

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>>4395234
you like it over the older 50mm f1.4?
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>>4395291
What do you mean? It's the same lens.
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Last night I took a picture of my new pepper mill. The background was a black t-shirt.

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>>4387874
Nikon is amazing for using the same lenses on film and DSLR.
F65, F75, F80, F100, F5 and F6 are all fully compatible with all AF-S lenses, and even support VR.
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Pentax K-5IIs - SMC DA 50mm 1.8

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>>4397355
What a strange picture.
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>>4397355
>ISO 400
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/167221821283

rate the new e-waste, i paid $304 + $12 shipping + $28 sales tax = $344. ricoh refurb has the same setup for $529 + $46 sales tax or $470 body only. i feel like i overpaid just a little. hoping its okay and not clapped. it does have a little bit of wear on the ears for the neckstrap.

blogpost:

i kinda always wanted a actual DSLR because i love the slap of the mirrors when you hit the shutter. its just a cool sound that really makes you feel like you're taking a photo. even though the autofocus on these things suck especially for what i mostly take photos of (aircraft + cars) i think for what i paid its worth it as a toy. i fell in love with the kf when i was first getting into photography and went to a store to play with cameras. it just felt cool. i ended up buying a nikon z50 and used it for 4 months before i sold it for what i paid for it.

currently im shooting with a sony zv1 (point and shoot w/1in sensor and 24-70mm lens) which im probably not gonna get rid of, only because i can stick it in a pocket.

other considerations:

snoy a6000 + 16-50 and 55-210 kit lenses ($400, locally, but then all my stuff would be sony and it feels too similar to what i want in the future)

canon 5d mark 3 for $400 (but i already wanna pick up a a7iv/a7r3 + 50-300mm or 28-200 tamron in the future after my tax return)

what lenses should i pick up? i definitely want a 300mm zoom lens with AF.
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Frost

>>4397629
Sometimes I wish I had the 18-55 lens. It's very useful

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Pentax K-5IIs & Super-Takumar 150mm F4
F4 1/1600 @ 1600 CIF

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Penta K-5IIs - Super Takumar 150mm F4 - 5 Frame Focus Stack - 1/125 @ iso 250
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First pic out of that $340 KF, turns out it has 3120 shutter counts. Actually looks pretty damn good for SOOC jpeg. I just resized it so its not a 12mb file. Camera itself was filthy like someone didn't wash their hands after eating

Already ricing it out. Spent $20 on a used charger + 3 batteries, $10 on a shoulder strap, $75 on a 55-300mm f4-5.8 Pentax SMC DAL Lens, $32 on a Quantaray/Sigma 28-90mm f3.5-5.6 Lens, and $20 on a Promaster (Tamron 278D) 80-210mm f4.5-5.6

Last 2 Lenses are SLR lenses from the late 90s

If I really like it I might go pick up the 55-300mm PLM lens, but I'll see how far I go with the current lenses I bought. Next lens will be a $50 50mm f1.8 Pentax DA Prime.

Pentax lens selection SUCKS imo, you gotta wade through lots of trash to find gems.

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>>4398438
Chonky boi. Wish I had as clean output at 3200

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>>4398438
There's been quite a few updates to the KF firmware. It's on 1.32 now.
https://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/kf.html
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>>4398494
I just updated it, do KFs have aperture block failure? This one was built Nov 2022.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/193-pentax-k-70-kf/402049-how-detect-aperture-block-failure-stuck-solenoid-pentax-k-70-a.html

The pictures stay black if its in manual mode and I'm trying to take pics wide open/wide closed with the same shutter/iso.

Av mode they look the same (but it's adjusting the shutter to compensate). And the aperture is definitely changing both with the OVF and in live view if I set it to auto or AV mode (it'll change the aperture size when I hit the shutter button, not as I'm setting aperture in the settings)

I think I'm just overthinking it and I'll keep using it. Its not under or over exposing pictures and I do 90% of my shooting in auto for most cameras.
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>>4398545
As far as I know, the KF is completely unaffected and the K70 has been unaffected after a certain manufacturing date. Maybe check if your EV compensation is all the way negative for the manual mode, but I don't know. It seems like it could be a setting issue somewhere
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>>4398555
Yeah I don't know, the camera is compensating all the way negative on the EV since I have auto exposure set.

I think I'm just gonna run it and worry about it when it actually starts giving me blacked out photos. If it dies it dies and I upgrade to a K3 or K3II (they actually cost the same exact as the KF at $400~ or so...which makes me wonder why I even bought one). I do like how it feels in hand and the colors/IQ on the kit lens. I'm so far at $520 spent.

I think my biggest problem with this camera ecosystem is the lens availability. Canon has better DSLR lenses, Nikon has better DSLR bodies. I think your average Pentaxian is someone with a bunch of K mount film lenses who refuses to upgrade or someone who bought a K5/K30/K50 10-15 years ago when they were still pretty competitive. Even the WR/build claims are eh when the low end ones are prone to aperture block issues and the CanoNikons are proven worldwide at this point.

I might try a Sony Alpha DSLR next (a390 for the 14mp CCD sensor), I actually think Sony might have better lenses.
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>>4378196

maybe post a raw file anon_legion probably will give a try
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>>4398563
>Yeah I don't know, the camera is compensating all the way negative on the EV since I have auto exposure set.
The M (or any) mode won't apply adjustments to the EV compensation. This is the page from the manual. Adjust it to 0 if it's not to start figuring out what's going wrong.

Just in case we're talking about different exposure things, you have to set ISO in M mode. So your ISO could be too low.

This seems fixable, but it's hard to tell exactly why the M is giving black pictures without being there.

I don't know about any of those zoom lenses, but the 50 f1.8 can put out some really good, sharp pictures.
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>>4380153
K5>K7

Unironically the K7 has weird stuff wrong with its sensor. The K5 is an identical camera with the issue "fixed"

its hard to explain but its apparent once you get a K5.
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Is this worth buying as baby's first film camera? The lens goes for $40-50 on its own. The camera body is a SFX SF1.

I have a few other k mount lenses (Pentax 55-300mm and 18-55mm SMC DA-L, Quantaray/Sigma 28-90mm, Promaster/Tamron 80-200mm).

I wanna try to shoot film.
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>>4399245
I forgot, its on eBay for $60 atm, probably $70 after shipping.

I don't really need it but kinda wanted the strap anyways. Supposedly that Tamron Lens is "okay" on DSLRs, kinda soft but not a horror show (it looks like its one of the later production ones made in the late 00s).

>>4398607

I think its just me since I'm not moving the ISO or shutter speed. I already ran 100+ photos through it, no real issues unless I intentionally did something. almost all in auto.
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>>4399214
>K5>K7
Nice to know I have an updoot path

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I think the cmos sensor in K-7 was manufactured by Scamsung. It doesn't have much highlight detail.

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>>4399402
>It doesn't have much highlight detail.
>Metering Mode Center Weighted Average
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Should I get a 35mm 2.4 or 50mm 1.8 DA lens? MPB has them cheap ($64 and $50), going on a crop sensor for general walk around photos.
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Had a model for my mid-day incel walk to get lunch

I bought this strap here and its a little short, its great around the neck

No aircraft pics this week, I'm on nights for a while + no OT

Lens is new...its a Promaster 70-300mm LD 58mm Filter Size (Sigma Rebrand) I picked up off eBay for $30 by accident. Actually not a bad lens but I had to remove a lot of the purple fringing in post using LR.

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>>4400058

>>4400054 for the strap. Neoprene has like a rubber backing that wont let it slide around easily if you tuck it under your arm and it needs to be 2in longer. Works great as a neck strap.

Actually really like how the pics come out on this KF. For a $350 camera its pretty damn good. I'm waiting on a 28-90mm Quantaray + 55-300mm DA-L Pentax + 35mm f2.4 DA Prime to arrive next. I wasn't taking more pics earlier because I just got a charger for it (batteries went flat) and I freaked out after I thought I killed it using a 90s flash on it (Sunpak 433D)

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>>4400059
I forgot I also have a 18-55 Kit Lens and Rokinon 80-210 manual lens.

I'm probably like $200 all together in lenses and accessories.

This camera really likes high ISOs, like 1600-3200 if I leave it on auto.

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I went to B&H to return that flash and took some pics like a tourist :)

All pics were taken with my KF DSLR w/28-90mm Quantaray Macro Lens w/Hoya CPL Filter in auto or p mode occasionally limiting auto-ISO to 800. Pentax Forums says its a Sigma, lightroom doesn't know if its a Sigma or Tamron.

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>>4401470
Its not bad for a $30 lens from the 1990s, but I definitely need to jack up the sharpness on most pics and do some NR. I wonder how these pics would've came out with the stock 18-55mm Lens. I'm convinced these newer DSLRs especially on a APSC out-resolve old glass.

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>>4401471
Some of these pics came out a stop overexposed. Thankfully I took them RAW and recovered the pic in lightroom. I think it was the lens not being able to handle flare. I don't have a hood on it...but the CPL should've done *something* so I'm hoping its not the camera doing something stupid.

I rate this lens a 6/10. Its okay. Decent focal range. But I think for walking around I'm either sticking to the 18-55/55-300mm Combo or a 35mm Prime with the 55-300mm Combo.

This is the Vessel, it's had 4 suicides.

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>>4401474
There's definitely a skill floor in shooting this thing vs my last mirrorless. I miss a lot more shots (IBIS isn't nearly as good as in-lens stabilization imo).

And honestly I love the colors from this camera. Its fun to use. I'll try shooting in jpeg next time exclusively with one of the picture modes. Probably gold or satobi. I actually like it over my Nikon Z50's colors. This thing just eats at high ISOs too.

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>>4401476
ATM I have

Pentax DA-L 18-55 SMC AL WR Kit Lens
Pentax DA-L 55-300mm SMC (Paid $65...I'm gonna give this a good test on Monday morning shooting planes at work)
Promaster 70-300mm LD f/4-5.6 (58mm Filter..its actually not horrible just lots of purple fringing and a little slow to focus, paid $40 and honestly didn't want it)
Quantaray 28-90mm f/3.5-5.6 (mid, $35)
Pentax DA 35mm f/2.4 Prime ($70 from MPB, comes today)

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>>4401480
Next lens I wanna pick up is a Sigma OS HSM lens (usually early 2010s build, these go for $100ish on eBay...one of the few lenses with in-lens stabilization too) or just run what I have until I save up in the spring for a 55-300mm PLM WR ($270-300)

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>>4401481

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>>4401482

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>>4401483
Done

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>>4370389
>43mm f1.9
Love you weird ass freaks who can't just make a 50mm 1.8

Wish I had gotten into Pentax before Canon ruined my life
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>>4401471
I like this image
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Green needles, Tortoiseshell cat

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Interesting comparison between my 55-300mm Pentax SMC DA-L and 70-300mm Promaster LD (Sigma from the 90s).

First pic is the Pentax. A lot better optically than the Promaster. A lot sharper at long distance. All my shots today were pushing the limits of the camera's capabilities (max focal length, handheld).

I'm gonna invest in either a mini tripod or a monopod next.

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>>4401990
This is the Sigma, of course I edited the fuck out of my pics. I took 168 pics and whittled it down to maybe 30-40 that were acceptable.

As soon as you got any sort of movement whether in my hand (camera shake) or the plane/object you're taking a photo it became a blurry mess on top of these lenses being naturally not sharp. The Pentax one was better optically, but the Promaster didn't have awful AF. Both worked great against stopped objects

I'm using AF-C + back button focusing using AF-L button.

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>>4401991
Sigma + movement, it just becomes a blur.

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>>4401992
Definitely better pics with the 55-300mm like this. I guess for a 90s lens that cost $40 its not horrible. I need a tripod/monopod BAD. IBIS isn't nearly as good as lens stabilization at long focal lengths imo.

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>>4367112 (OP)
What I am for, sisters? :3
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Straight off the camera jpeg just testing out my used $30 Sirui P306 monopod. This thing is tits. Saw it when I left B&H

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>>4402181
Another one, just did a resize so its not 6mb. Also picked up 2 Energizer CR2s and a roll of UItramax 400. I bought a ZX30 w/original camera bag, strap, and SMC 28-80mm Lens for $30 shipped

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>>4401993
Nice pics, but this one's just slightly out of focus
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>>4401652
>>4401655
>>4401990
>>4401991
>>4401992
>>4401993
>>4402181
wtf these looks much better than most of the canonikon garbage I see posted here constantly.

Is this the power of pentax?
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>>4402371
same color science as sony without the offensive exif

notice it is perfect for blue+orange
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>>4402371
pentaxians have to actually work around their camera's limitations because they have the processing power of a fucking calculator

and honestly for stills/landscapes they have sovl.

>>4402360

so turns out the trick for sharper images?

1/800-1/1250 shutter speed on Tv
af w/viewfinder: af-c, auto-11 or auto-5 (used both, 5 seemed better if you can track), focus priority, hold af status high
matrix ae metering, shoot raw, and turn all d-range + noise reduction + clarity, settings off
no aa filter or lens/horizon correction

back button focusing (independent of shutter) and a $30 monopod

everything is off because the processing power spent on any in-camera editing/processing/correction is better used on having the shitty 11 point AF keep up

this camera in auto tends to
-set iso too fucking high unless you're outdoors (then it defaults usually btn 100-800)
-set shutter speed too fucking low (i shot the earlier pics in scene - moving object then did everything above until i started playing w/the shutter speed above)

after doing this im actually more satisfied with this "pos" than my mirrorless nikon z50 mk1...which to be fair was smarter (less fiddling/skill needed to get good photos) BUT the z50 colors were never good. i actually think the KF is better at high isos than the Z50. pentax lenses suck tho

pic related was originally a sooc jpg, i just sharpened it up and removed some shadows

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>>4402383
and this is a raw i did full edits (toned down highlights, lifted shadows, noise reduction, sharpening)

both w/55-300mm da-l pentax lens i bought off ebay for $65

the 70-300mm film slr sigma/tamron/quantaray/promasters are more dull and have bad chromatic aberrations (whites/blues turning purple) with the only benefit if youre a poorfag you can get them for $20-40. honestly skip them unless you're poor or get them for free.

next lens is gonna be a 55-300mm plm i have to sort through 200+ pics

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>>>/n/2032653

I posted a few pictures here I already edited. This is before I found out that my shutter speed was too low so everything was at 1/320-500. I 2x'd that to 800-1600 and they looked a lot better.

Most of my aviation content is shared on /n/, I post the regular boring stuff on /p/

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the sooc jpegs on this camera are gonna make me stop shooting raw.

too bad the AF sucks like god damn but for stills its perfect

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>>4405205

the pics on this pentax are gorgeous, but definitely not as well resolved. older dslrs have such rich colors vs the newer mirrorless stuff. it makes me wanna spend the $600 on a 50-500mm or 120-400mm sigma telelens or $300 on the top of the line pentax 55-300mm plm lens

maybe next cam is a 5d mark iv i dont shoot video anyways canon lenses are probs gonna mog the fuck out of pentax

another interesting observation:

exposure/contrast is nearly always ON POINT even when shooting raw. this camera has excellent metering. i rarely touch those sliders even when shooting raw

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>I post the regular boring stuff on /p/
Based
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>>4402387
You have a lot of fucking balls to sneak into an airport to take a picture of an airplane. I'm surprised you didn't get mauled by a German Shepherd.
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>>4405219
Bro has a some lengthy telephotos so no
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>>4405219
>>4405220
I also work at the airport. It's fine if I'm doing it in a safe area.
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K-70s are still being liquidated at the Ricoh shop
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shopping for rare pentax goods on buyee and found this shirt on the official store (i need a new neck strap for my KF cuz i never got one and its $16 + my gf buys there all the time)

actually had to do research on this shit because at first when i saw the hoodie design i thought it was some weird pol shit design but its actually referring to their special edition custom cameras which is cute. even has a laminated hand carved wooden grip, didn't know these existed and its proof pentax has the most sovl of the camera brands like a leica for retards stuck in the dslr era

https://malificent-images.com/gear/reviews/hands-on-with-the-pentax-k-1-mkii-j-limited-01/

also lol @ photographer gloves

https://item.rakuten.co.jp/ricohimagingstore/-s1032304/
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>>4406789
This one was my favourite despite being a bit less sharp than the others.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/205307956962

$355 KF w/18-55 kit lens, charger, strap. I paid almost the same and mine was missing the last 2.

I love the colors I can get out of this camera.
Pentax has unironically the best colors. Its just a fun camera to use. I just wish it had better/cheaper lenses, the good ones are a lot of $$$.

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>>4408635
That, an extra battery, and a $30-40 70-300mm Tamron until you save up $250-300 for a 55-300mm PLM is all you need to shoot.

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>>4408636
Does not have to be a Tamron, if my pics have purple/green fringing its a Promaster LD 70-300mm that looks identical to a newer 90s Tamron. IIRC There's a 58mm and 62mm Tamron, the 58mm is the newer one. I'm sure the Sigma one is fine too.

The 55-300mm Pentax is better at $60-80. Honestly get whatever. Its a fun camera to use. My next purchase is a 50mm f/1.8 DA Prime from MPB for $50. It does take a little bit of help to make up for the shitty AF and auto settings though if you're coming from a newer mirrorless.

Half my pics come back as having an embedded file :(

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Bubbly flowing water

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>>4406791
nice pic
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>>4388018
>>4387874
>>4387875
>>4397139
I'm in a similar debacle, I'm debating between Pentax and Nikon, but for my use-case, it's pretty much apples and oranges. The K3 and D7200 or D610 has caught my interest for the ~$500 price range. I'm just looking for a camera to take on holidays and to mess around with Macrophotography and film era lenses, but it seems like apple and oranges with a use-case like that.
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>>4412737
APSC: Pentax, Nikon's offerings are not noteworthy. I personally love my KF but a K3 Mk1/2 is a great camera. The KF makes up for the slower processor vs the K3s through a accelerator chip that's only on the K70/KF/KP/K3 Mk3. It has great DR and just EATS at high ISOs (I posted a few pics at 3200) I paid $350 for mine and they occasionally come up for that much. It's a great camera. Pentax colors are to die for and their SOOC jpegs are pretty good, sometimes it underexposes though.

On that note, look for a KP.

FF: Nikon 100%. I'm 100% convinced Nikon has the best DSLRs in FF to the point it forced everyone else to go mirrorless and add video features. People still shoot weddings with D800s from 2012. A D800 is definitely in your budget and imo its better than a more expensive K1.

For what it's worth, Nikon has better lenses. Pentax glass sucks as much as their AF unless you pay 2x as much for PLM or DA* stuff. Pentax auto settings have a little bit of a learning curve too, if you're shooting movement it needs a little help with the shutter speed.

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>>4412773
The other quirk I notice? CPLs really don't work on this camera. Most of my pics are shot with a Promaster LD 70-300mm from the 1990s (LR says its a Sigma) or a 55-300mm DA-L Kit Lens. They take too much light away and don't actually bring out the sky like they should.

I just go bare lens with a hood for flare control.

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>>4412773
>A D800 is definitely in your budget and imo its better than a more expensive K1.

Unfortunately it is not. I forgot to mention I live in Canada, so this is 500 CAD, which is how much a D610 costs. I also prefer the size of the D610 since it seems to be as compact as the Pentax and it is full-frame, whereas the D800 is a chonky boi.

My concern is that people always say that the FX lenses are crazy expensive, but I don't understand this, since there are a lot of film-era lenses that can be had for inexpensive used, and will still mount, meter and focus just fine. I plan to use picrel, which I got on an inexpensive F65 if I do get this camera.

I owned a K7 a couple years ago very briefly and it left such a good impression that I want to get another Pentax, but I think the more logical choice would be Nikon since there are more lenses and accessories to find.
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>>4412773
>Nikon's offerings are not noteworthy.

2/2

I also get that impression for some reason. Nobody seems to regard the APS-C offerings as "legendary" like the D800 or single digit D series, which is odd. They sort of just exist.
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>>4412773
>It has great DR and just EATS at high ISOs
All of pentax's more recent cameras have great high iso performance, the noise is very pleasant and it doesn't make the image mushy due to the lack of on sensor phase detect.
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>>4412784
Since D300 they exist to sell full frame systems. They're supposed to be disappointing, so you immediately start saving for a ff body.
The real 4d chess move would have been to include a fx lens as the kit lens with every dx body to make it even easier. But I guess then they'd sell less lenses.
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>>4412850
>Since D300 they exist to sell full frame systems
That sounds a bit derogatory to me. There are people that really like the D7200 and it is made out of magnesium alloy.

How does the Pentax compare to it tho?
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>>4412905
Pentax sells NEW screw drive autofocus lenses in the current year. And not as a silly joke lens, but for standard lenses that have no SDM alternative.
I think that speaks for itself.
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>>4412923
Why do people not talk about this when reviewing Pentax cameras?
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>>4412923
peak
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>>4412941
why would people mention the fact that pentax make lenses for their cameras? Are you retarded?
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>>4412945
>Are you retarded?
You literally didn't read the response properly.

We're talking about the fact that Pentax uses the outdated Motor drive coupling technology between the lens and camera to drive auto-focus, whereas Nikon has the motor built into the lenses.

Fucking idiot.
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>>4412946
too dumb to exist. Sorry about your brain damage
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>>4412946
so what
if it works it works
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>>4412941
Because then Ricoh won't send them cameras to review

Pentax lenses objectively suck. I'm testing out a Sony a390 with older Minolta lenses from the 80s and they're honestly nearly as good as Pentax stuff that's from the 2000s other than purple fringing. A lot of their lenses weren't built/designed in house but instead were subbed out to Sigma and Tamron then rebranded as Pentax. Minolta in comparison uses Leica designs. I wish I had a Sony a77/a77ii or a68 to compare to my K70/KF, I have a feeling they'd kick its ass (or those Sony cams are more comparable to a K3 Mk3). That's why I said earlier Nikon makes better glass (tied with Minolta for 2nd place), and Canon definitely has the best vintage AF lenses.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/lens-autofocus-drive-comparison.html
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>>4412946
Back when Canon had EF (starting 1987) and Nikon didn't, Nikon pretended for a while that AF/AF-D was "just as good." But it soon became abundantly clear that it was not and they had to backtrack. Pentax is still pretending 29 years later.
>>4412952
Enjoy your BZZZZZZT and missed focus
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>>4412956
>Enjoy your BZZZZZZ
ooooh too much for your autistic sensitive ass?
>missed focus
skill issues
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>>4412956
Just spam back button AF lock + set hold AF setting to high, then manually set the shutter speed to suit.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/photo-articles/dslr-sports-autofocus-settings-guide.html

You can make screw drive lenses work, it just has a higher skill ceiling. Its the price you (don't) pay for your lenses costing $20-80. Or what, no one took action shots before mirrorless? I took this with a 1990s 70-300mm Promaster/Tamron LD that was $35 off eBay I bought accidentally.

I think what offends me more is Pentax charging a assload of money for the PLM stuff. Like $400 MSRP for the 55-300mm HD WR PLM. They're definitely a third rate company, but that's part of the charm. You don't shoot Pentax because you want the best camera. You buy it because you're a hipster faggot who likes DSLRs.

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>>4412779
No, you can get a used D800/D810 for 500 CAD. Just shop around a bit.
The lens you posted is dated shit, and it was never meant as anything other than a starter kit lens. Also, 35mm film doesn't need glass that resolves extremely well, since it's only like 12MP anyway.
If you are strapped for money, start with getting the AF-S 50mm F1.8, which should be under 100 USD used.
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>>4412966
>it was never meant as anything other than a starter kit lens.
Yea but Ken Rockwell seems to review it pretty well. And I don't really need much more than a kit lens and something for macro.

>D800/D810
Yes but it's very large. I much prefer the D610 form factor.
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>>4412967
>Ken Rockwell
Ken writes more about his feelings than actual performance, so you have to be a bit wary of his recommendations.
In his review he writes that he got it as a kit lens for the F55, which was the absolute cheapest film camera offered by Nikon at the time. Then he goes on to write that it worked great on his D3.
The D3 is an ancient 12MP camera, which resolves worse than 35mm film.
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>>4412968
That doesn't make any sense. Nikon was offering a lot of film-era primes in their AI and AF form until like 2021. I don't think they were producing these *just* for film stuff if they had so many of them for sale, in their original lens formulation, until mirrorless?
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>>4412969
>Nikon was offering a lot of film-era primes in their AI and AF form until like 2021
That lens is not a prime, and it was discontinued in 2006.
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>>4412970
Ok, but many other film-era lenses are just the same lens formulation but updated to a G lens or with added VR, are you saying that these are only for film? obviously not. Most lens formulations stayed the same.
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>>4412971
Look, you can listen to advice, or you can do whatever you want.
That lens in particular is not very good, and you will notice it on a 24MP D610, and even more on a 36MP D800. It was simply designed before cameras were able to resolve more detail.
It also doesn't feature fancy modern coatings and VR.
If you want to save on glass, you can buy AF-D lenses, but you have to make sure you buy the ones that are actually any good. AF-S (G) are almost always going to be at least a little better, though.
My personal rec for starting out is probably the 24-120mm F4, because it is very nice and sharp across the whole range and allows for pretty much any kind of regular composition. F4 can be a tad limiting on older cameras in the dark or inside, though.
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>>4412973
>24-120mm F4
That one is quite expensive. I don't think I would be able to afford that. Nearly $400.

If I'm unable to take advantage of used, film-era lenses, then I don't think FX would be a good choice for me. And the old adage of buying an expensive body and a cheap lens being a bad idea seems to be in-play here, but I was under the impression that that 28-80mm is decent for what it is.

There are a lot of film-era lenses, especially from Pentax, that are still in production. Is it safe to assume that if the ones that are still in-production are able to resolve the higher megapixel counts of their modern offerings?
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>>4412975
>That one is quite expensive
Yeah, it's more expensive. That's why I said you better start out with a "nifty fifty" 50mm f1.8. The AF-D version of that one is also quite nice, according to others, so you can get it quite cheap.

>If I'm unable to take advantage of used, film-era lenses
It's not like you won't be able to take pictures with them. You will just not get to take full advantage of the bogger sensor and greater resolution, so your images may appear "softer" than you expect. If you scale them down to 12MP you won't notice much/any difference.
So if you already have the 24-85mm, you might as well buy a FF Nikon and use that until you can afford something better.

>Pentax
I don't know much about Pentax, so I can't help you there, but Pentax is generally said to have worse glass than Nikon (can't verify this). Used Pentax glass also tends to be a bit expensive, simply because there is less of it.
Pentax did produce medium format film cameras, so that might be why they have older lenses that resolve better. Just a guess.
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>>4412978
Ok but I don't think I would be into photography enough to outgrow a kit lens and a prime for Macro.

a FF Nikon sounds like the more expensive prospect for this more casual use-case I guess.

Would there be any issues using a 50mm FF macro on an APS-C body? It turn into a 75mm macro but are there other factors that change due to a smaller sensor size?
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>>4412981
>Would there be any issues using a 50mm FF macro on an APS-C body?
This series of outdoor pics are all from the FA 50mm macro on a k70. >>4369040
I'm not aware of any issues that are due to the sensor size change.
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>>4412981
The 50mm isn't a macro lens (Nikon brands them "micro" for some reason), but you can take pictures of relatively small things with it on an APS-C. You'll need to stand back a bit, though.
You could get the 60mm f2.8.

>a FF Nikon sounds like the more expensive prospect for this more casual use-case I guess
Then you should just get an APS-C. The D3200 is dirt cheap, and DX glass is too.
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>>4412981
Zero

FF Lens (all film lenses) on APSC Body = No issues other than size/weight

APSC Lens on FF Sensor = Vignetting

At least get a telelens. All my aviation pictures are done with a 70-300mm or 55-300mm with usually in between 70-250mm focal length. You can't get distance shots with a prime or kit lens.

>>4412978
Nikkor glass was always some of the best until Canon came out with EF glass in 1987.

Pentax is worse, but used glass isn't expensive unless you go for a big dick PLM or DA* or DA Limited.

I would also consider Minolta + Sony DSLRs or Mirrorless (need LA EA3 or LA EA4 adapter), their glass is impressively cheap and their DSLRs still use Minolta colors. However the bodies are rare on the used market, feature limited (only A68/A77/A99 has focus adjustment for example), and not as well built as Pentax/Nikon DSLRs (tanks in comparison, just avoid anything that's not a KF/KP/K3 for aperture solenoid issues)

I don't know dick about Canons, but a 5d Mk3 seems like a good camera, but I hate them aesthetically.
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>>4412988
>You can't get distance shots with a prime
You do know 800mm primes are a thing, right?
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>>4412989
Yes, but its not nearly as versatile for a amateur. A 800mm Prime is gonna be expensive and big as hell.

Minolta actually made a 500mm f/8 Prime with autofocus you can pick up for $100-140 used all day long which I think is pretty damn neat, I'm slowly transitioning to a Minolta fanboy.
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>>4412990
>Minolta 500mm f/8
Isn't that a manual focus donut lens?
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>>4412989
nta but tele primes are pure masochism. I got a 300/4 and teleconverter thinking I'd take pictures of birds and deer and shit but it is the right focal length exactly 0% of the time.
It's not like a 24-70 where you can "zoom with your feet" to get the shot with a 50 when your subject is 30 feet up in a tree. It's either your subject is a tiny speck or all you can see is an eyeball.
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>>4412991
Nope, its autofocus. Granted, it dates to the early 1990s. Its not as sharp as newer lenses...but its also $100-140. Minolta also has a 100-400mm APO that's the size of a 70-300mm Nikkor.

https://www.dyxum.com/lenses/Minolta-AF-Reflex-500mm-F8_lens25.html

The other thing that's important is that older vintage lenses can be REALLY inconsistent re: image quality. You can get lenses that are tack sharp, break/lose it, order the same exact lens and its soft with horrible aberrations and won't focus to save its life. Apparently it was common even when they were sold new with some people going through 5 different Sigma/Tamrons until they got a "good one" with a few forum posts even noting people getting new lenses with scratches/dust already in them.
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>>4412992
>24-70mm
Good luck shooting deer at 70mm, lmao
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>>4412986
What are the reasons someone would use a prime lens, away from a kit lens?
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>>4412997
>What are the reasons someone would use a prime lens, away from a kit lens?
You are mixing up some terminology here.
Kit lens: Relatively low quality lens you get "for free" with a new camera. They are usually zooms that cover a relatively short range, somwhere between 24 and 85mm, and variable f-stops between 3.2 and 5.6.
Zoom lens: Lens with a zoom range
Prime lens: Lens with a fixed focal length

Zoom lenses come in many shapes and sizes, but "professional" zooms are usually f2.8, with internal stabilization (not in the new mirrorless versions) with internal movement (the length of the lens does not change as you zoom).
Mid-tier zooms, like the 24-120mm f4 change in size and are mostly cased in plastic, instead of metal.
Low-tier zooms have variable apertures (ex. f3.5-f5.6) which are darker than the mid and high-tier equivalents.
The cheaper they are, the more barrel distortion, chromatic aberration, etc. you can expect. Softer corners are also common, and less sharpness in general.

Prime lenses are generally much better, but also
>much more expensive
>much bigger/heavier
>much less versatile
The notable exception being reflex or "mirror lenses", such as
>>4412993
Which are light and cheap, but
>usually manual focus only
>extremely dark (F8 is normal on a 500mm, while a regular 500mm prime can be f4)
>strange bokeh, shaped like "donuts" (just google it)
Reflex lenses are seen as very good for astro photography though. Mostly useless for anything else.
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>>4412994
My point is that you can replace a 24-70 with a 50 and learn to get just as good of pictures. But for tele you really need the zoom because your subjects are far away and out of your control, so you really need the zoom to get any decent framing. If you look at pros who use those huge tele primes they're always cropping 6MP rectangles with their 60MP cameras and at that point why even bother.
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>>4412997
NTA. A kit lens is just what you call any lens that gets bundled with a camera for practically free. Some camera bundles come with much better lenses and you wouldn't really call them "kit" lenses despite coming in the combo. Kits are generally small, light, plastic, cover something like 24-70mm and have reasonable IQ today, but are generally outclassed by any sort of other lens you could buy for any given mount.

Wide to normal-telephoto lenses can be replaced with primes and all you're having to do is change out your lens for another, and in return you get way better IQ, aperture, size, and weight. Wide starts at 28mm (below that you get ultrawide) and telephoto technically starts at 100mm and goes beyond (which is double your "normal" focal length of 50mm). These are where prime lenses make sense.

Zooms have their place. Pros will use zooms because the time it takes to change out a lens could result in missing that wedding shot or car crash. They generally buy nicer zooms with constant apertures and improved IQ though (but many primes still btfo pro zooms in terms of IQ).

Once you start going ultrawide or supertelephoto, primes make a lot less sense. They can still be used, but are generally much harder because "zooming with your feet" is kind of bullshit when you're a few hundred meters from a subject, or you need to get to 0.3m from it for it to fill more than 1/8th of the frame.
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Just bought my first DSLR camera, and its a Pentax K100D
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>>4413065
enjoy, you made an objectively good choice, now go take some photos
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>>4413070
Been working with film from a minolta 160c point and shoot, so im excited to be able to get some instant feedback with a DSLR.
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>>4413021
>telephoto technically starts at 100mm
nerd glasses time
akshually "telephoto" refers to the optical design of a lens, not the focal length
telephoto = physically shorter than the focal length
retrofocus = physically longer than the focal length
most long lenses are telephoto for handling practicality, most ultrawide lenses have been historically retrofocus because mirrors
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>>4413144
I have just been swerved. Yeah I was going for the current standardized way of using nomenclature, but that's some neat info nonetheless.
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>>4412959
Damn those things are massive

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should I get a k-01 or a k-5? I was going back through some of my k-01 shots and I forgot how great that sensor was. Since they both have the same sensor I can't decide
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>>4413311
Some of the photos in question.

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>>4413325

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>>4413327

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>>4413331

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>>4413335

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>>4413337

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>>4413339

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>>4413340
todd hido is crying
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>>4413341
are they tears of joy or despair?
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>>4413342
im not sure..
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>>4413343
It's not the first time I've had some of my shots compared to him. I like his work, but I don't pay a ton of attention to famous photographers.
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>>4413347
im majorly inspired by him. big fan.
sadly ur gonna get compared to him anytime u take pictures of light coming thru windows haha

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>>4413350
yeah I used to take a lot of night photos and he comes up naturally.
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I wanted to take a picture of my new Albedo. I wish I had set the f value just a little higher.

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I had the K10D back in the day. It was a really shit copy, the fucking viewfinder glass was crooked so my pics were always at a slant.
The 16-50 was sweet though.
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How are recent Pentax cameras with high ISOs these days?
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>>4413676
The ccd ones were only good up to 200 or 400 if you were able to expose to the right. No idea about the cmos sensor ones.
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im looking for a new lens for my K100D.
I have the kit lens, SMC PENTAX DAL 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AL but am wanting something better. Ive been looking at 200mm and 300mm lenses, but a unsure what would be a good lens.
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>>4413676
I have used my k-1 at 25600 and it looks great. 12800 is very good and I find the noise very pleasant

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Pentaxbros...if you haven't: Learn how to do AF Microadjustments.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/lens-align-front-back-focus/the-remedy.html

My Promaster 70-300mm LD needed a -6, My Quantaray 28-90mm Macro + Pentax DA 35mm f2.4 needed -1, and my Pentax DA-L 55-300mm SMC needed -9 after checking it on a LensCal ($18 off eBay) at multiple focus lengths, using my couch to steady the camera. Horrible front focus.

This helped increase my keep rate and got my already sharp pictures even sharper.

I'm gonna flirt with a different system (A390 + Minolta 70-210mm F4 and 100-200mm f4.5) and it makes me realize the good of these cameras (colors, ergos, features, AF surprisingly but the Sony is from 2010 and the Pentax is from 2016) and bad (Pentax lenses suck dick). I do like how much cheaper and better Minolta glass is.

>>4413773

55-300mm SMC is $50-70 all day long on eBay, jump straight to it. You don't have a new enough camera to drive the PLM on the good lenses, and the 70-300mms have a lot of aberrations...would only do those if its $20-30. But they're not bad either, pic rel is on one. Try to go new as possible if you do that and expect lots of sample variance, this comes up as a Sigma on LR (58mm Filter Thread) but I use the Tamron A17P profile for its viginetting.

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