>Simplify your shooting experience with automatic exposure settings. Let the camera handle the exposure settings, allowing you to focus on capturing the perfect shot without worrying about
>every sample photo is overexposed

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>>4369271
Comparing viewfinders.
>35AF

>>4369276
Yeah, the sample photos were done mostly by second-rate influences so they were kind of trash.
It also looks like it's an aperture priority only camera. I haven't looked at the detailed documentation, but there is no indication in the uh... manual that it has full manual.

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>>4369281
>3.5SE
It should hopefully be clear that the 35SE viewfinder is better in almost every way, although the AF has better eye relief. It's sharper, larger, much less distortion, and brighter, better frame lines.
I can only guess that they only way to cram all those electronics in there was by reducing the size of the viewfinder.

>>4369276
>>4369281
I'm sorry, full auto, not full manual. Derp.

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It's going to be a fun little camera to have on hand, regardless.

>shutter speed up to 1/500
sorry for being a newfag to rolleis but do you guys always keep an nd filter on or something. Otherwise if you guys are always shooting at something like f11 during the day these don't really need AF..

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>>4369271
Couple more observations:
>There's a warning sticker atop the camera not to leave it on, so I have to wonder how long the tiny CR2 battery will last
>Bottom plate is plastic. No hot shoe
>Flash seems adequate at <10ft
>The frame memo dial on the front is VERY loose and gets maladjusted from normal use, so it's basically useless
>No film memo slot or holder
>Came with a battery
>Aperture and shutter speed dials both have a nice solid click, they're nicer than the 35SE.
>No filter mount or even space to put any sort of custom slip-on filter on, just don't scratch the lens lol
>Camera will not rest flat on a flat surface, wobbles a bit
>Included wist strap is very nice
>No prefocus/manual focus setting unlike the Hexar
For the record I don't at-all regret buying this thing, and the niggles are relatively minor, but it is admittedly pretty bad that this camera has fewer features and a less logical UI than an electronic camera from the early 1990s...

>>4369290
>you guys are always shooting at something like f11 during the day
Well, yeah. That's how I shot with the old 35.
But the AF makes it faster to use suitable for more situations.
Doesn't have a filter mount.

>>4369289
Agree. This thing certainly isn't gonna replace my Hexar, but Ill probably take this as a backup when I'm shooting MF.

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>>4369302
>>4369271
Ironically, the lens protrudes a lot more on the original, despite its much smaller size. The lens on the AF doesn't extend. Turn it on and it's ready to go. Startup time is instant.

A really irritating thing is the auto exposure only has EV adjustment for full stops. I guess if you want third stops you have to readjust the ISO - which is done by going to a dedicated setting on the power dial and pressing the self-timer button about a dozen times. Not optimal.

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>>4369271
To settle the debate this camera is, in-fact, pocketable.
Even though it's a bit bigger than the SE it's actually easier to pocket thanks to its light weight. Doesn't feel like you have a heavy brick down there.
Not too shabby.

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>>4369271
>mint product
It looks like a neat little gadget anon I hope it isn’t prone to imploding on itself like mint products previous. I don’t trust their chinesium since all of their instax products have been a gamble.

>>4369271
I have two Rollei 35 and one 35B. They are so fragile they always break I really don't like them. Is the new one also shit ?

I knew this was going to be a shit show the moment they announced it would imitate a legendary camera
>800$ chinesium camera with a soft lens, poorly integrated interface and doubtful quality control. They can't even distribute it, so god help anyone willing to service it under warranty when it inevitably breaks
>But muh rollei aesthetics
I hope enough retards buy it because the survival of the medium depends on manufacturers making new film cameras -hopefully the big brands in the industry- but holy shit what a lemon

>>4369271
Every single thing you mention about the camera makes it inferior to the contax T3. The T3 shall remain the king of p&s cameras.

Such a cool little camera.
I want one, but I have other financial priorities in the foreseeable future. But given the success of this, it's almost certain they're going to make a mk2 addressing some of the issues with this once they're past the high demand phase. So I'll hopefully be looking to get one at that time if it ever happens.

>>4369281
>>4369283
I'm very surprised how much worse the viewfinder is. I would have assumed it was the other way around if you hadn't said which was which. The difference is remarkable.

>>4369412
Isn't a Contax T3 two or three times as expensive?

>>4369412
Thats a weird way of saying Fuji Natura f1.9

>>4369271
>MiNT product

It'll last a year and a half tops.

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>>4369271
Not even 1 roll through and I already want to mod this thing. Some of the design decisions are just confounding and defy logic.
>The flash LED is SO FREAKING BRIGHT it's comical. I can't even see through the viewfinder in dark conditions.
>When the mode dial is stuck between settings it glitches out: ISO blinks on and off on the screen.
>Lack of exposure info in the viewfinder really is irritating, this is probably the worst thing about it. Even my 35SE with electronics from 1981 can provide basic info
>If the camera is shot, turned off, and you try to advance it, it will wind over and over without counting frames
>I assume the aperture is mechanically controlled from the dial, since it doesn't have any auto exposure. I would personally rather have shutter speed priority than aperture, or ideally a choice of either
>Don't know what the minimum shutter speed is on A and there's no way to check or adjust it
>The viewfinder really is bad as >>4369442 said - there's so much glare in sunlight (pic incoming)
>Using the self-timer button to set ISO is mental
I am still grateful that they made this thing, but I can't figure out what they were thinking, except maybe they were just trying to cut costs. Seems like such basic oversights in usability.
If it had a larger viewfinder with info and a proper display with controls, and a quieter AF motor, it'd be pretty much perfect.


>>4369409
>comparing a new $800 camera with a 20 year old $2200 camera
why do you people do this

>>4369335
>>4369373
>>4369536
It has the warranty and feels very well-made so I'm cautiously optimistic that it won't randomly die. I hope MINT has learnt from their follies.
Anyway people seem to forget that many other great and reliable cameras like the Pentax K1000 and Yashica GSN were also made in Hong Kong.

>>4369409
One thing I've not heard anything bad about is the lens.
It's supposedly made by Pentax and I've heard it's plenty sharp, but doesn't have multicoating like the Sonnar.

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>>4369541
>>4369442
>The glaring viewfinder
Note that it is overcast out.
I regret not buying the black one now for this reason alone. Aside from the poor optics, the metal frame around the viewfinder glass is the source of most of the glare.
This is giving me early 2000s compact camera vibes. Jesus Christ.

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>>4369409
dont worry, the survival of the medium actually depends on hollywood. there are enough working old cameras to supply entire generations with a 100% photography rate and the majority of them are repairable and naturally long lasting. film camera shutters do not get throttled as badly as digital shutters.

35mm is only economical for kodak to produce and sell because of bulk orders of 35mm for motion picture film
120 is only economical for kodak to produce and sell because of bulk orders of 70mm motion picture film, not the exact same format but cut from the same stock and made on the same equipment

sheet film is basically the scraps. very low demand from a few fine art and fashion studios, which is why the emulsion selection is basically nonexistent, and it's only economical to produce any of it because of the profits kodak gets off sales to the motion picture industry.

without hollywood everything would be fomapan and harman but twice as expensive.

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I've seen the 35AF compared with the original but few comparisons with other cameras, so here you go.

>>4369442
>>4369542
PS: generally speaking one of the great perks of using a P&S or rangefinder is you get to see beyond what would be captured in the viewfinder. Not so here. The viewfinder image cuts off pretty much right at the frame lines. Also for some adenine reason the focus point dot is located closer to the eye so it looks all blurry while you're composing. It's complete trash. Since they already disregarded the size conventions of the original 35, they couldn't make it a few mm larger still for a better viewfinder? Shameful.

>>4369543
With all due respect, that is just not true.
For one thing production is completely separate between movie and still film, they even use a different base: poly vs. acetate. 6cm and 7cm films are made with completely different equipment.
Sure, sheet film is a niche but sales of their still roll films are very comfortable and can sustain dedicated production. They sell Tri-X like hotcakes since there are still film photography classes in uni and very many photographers use it as an everyday film. And Tmax 400 is still the gold standard in terms of sharpness.

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>>4369541
Fingers too soft looking, a real photog has calluses from constantly shooooting

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>>4369271
>$800 for a 35mm film camera
I guess you could call that a Rollei flex.

>>4369541
>Even my 35SE with electronics from 1981 can provide basic info
The only one comparing cameras is you. I just said it was a poor choice to resucitate a camera that's already good and has plenty of units. It's a flop waiting to happen, specially with all the design flaws it has.
>>4369543
That's just not true. And even if it were, appealing to more people and creating a bigger market with an increased supply of units will do more for the medium than relying on a legacy stock of cameras. The less cameras there are, the more expensive they get, the more niche the hobby becomes, the less film is sold.
Again, godspeed to Pentax and Mint, but they dropped the ball on this one. If they release soon enough the pentax 35mm slr that's already in the making they will take the market by storm.

>>4369561
hes right that is true

most film is only made because hollywood is keeping kodaks film factory afloat, and if i can buy a $50 maxxum and lens on ebay an $800 chinesium film camera has no purpose whatsoever

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More frustration: if the dial for Auto exposure comp isn't exactly on -1, it will actually do either +1 or LT exposure instead. Literally the opposite of what you want
The camera is also really glitchy if you don't turn the advance lever ALL the way 180 degrees. Focus freezes and the display goes off and it just acts really weird.
Come on now. Didn't they test this thing..?

>>4369553
>he doesn't appreciate my delicate artist's hands

>>4369558
ayyy

>>4369561
>it was a poor choice to resuscitate a camera that's already good and has plenty of units.
I agree. They would have been much better off with a clone of the Contax T2 or T3, or even something a little beefier with updated electronics like the Hexar or Klasse.
Now that it's acknowledged there's wide demand for film cameras, somebody needs to do this.

>>4369572
Apples and oranges comparison.

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>>4369271
So it's a fully auto point and shoot?

>>4369617
From the same company who said "we can't fit a rangefinder in this body" despite making the SL2000F and 3003, both fully modular 35mm systems

>>4369442
Yes it is, but not when it was being sold, but maybe considering inflation, idk. The prices difference does not make up for the functional difference between the two. T3 remains king, and this rollei sounds like pure doodoo, especially for nearly 1k doll hairs.

>>4369444
>made in china

nice funko pop

>>4369271
It would have been a good camera with an mft sensor in there instead of gay and retarded film.

>>4369409
Faggots like you keep FUDing Mint but they are growing and their cameras get better than ever. Mint stuff is more fun than the Pentax half frame abortion too.

>>4369543
depressing. guess it will be digital eventually : (

>>4369626
nobody wants your shitty undersized sensor, get over it

>>4369645
mft sucks so bad as just a camera

so limiting a decent phone is more useful just for the decisive moment. your options are basically good ff milc, top end apsc milc, phone. mft loses in every category but larping and appealing to the weak armed.

>>4369561
yea you know better than two companies right? fucking aspie

>>4369622
t3 is so overrated. When i check tags from people taking frames of it looks like shit 99% of the time.

>>4369572
Ilford/kentmere and foma for example are both independent companies that rely solely on consumer film and lab equipment. If anything kodak would be the one in trouble without Hollywood, which again is not true for the reasons this anon said >>4369549. And even if they went down there are manufacturers that currently don't export outside of china that would fill that color film void quickly.
Even the people who live off of second hand cameras agree the well will eventually dry out https://youtu.be/CQpAXLTFpAM?feature=shared.
Producing new film cameras is essential to keep the consumer market alive and affordable. Is this camera a shitty attempt? Yes, but if you're really into film and not a retard you'll be praying Pentax and Mint sell them like hot cakes to others while you enjoy your 50$ camera
>>4369591
Still, you're the one comparing cameras, I'm just saying its a miss from mint. And I'm truly sad about it, I really wanted this camera to be a huge hit even though I have no intention to buy one. I hope I'm wrong and even though the general reviews are bad they sell enough units to justify new models.

>>4369657
I was just talking about mint. Pentax did a good job with the 17 by making an entirely new camera instead of trying to resucitate the ricoh gr or the k1000. And the fact that they're selling them to the point of having to increase production -for the second time in four months- is proof. Mint's choice of a new Rollei 35 was setting an unrealistically high bar, and everyone knew it.

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Despite the flaws that you wrote about OP I still think I'll be buying one of these (in black).
For me this camera still matches everything I want out of a film camera, namely pocketability, manual controls and an inbuilt flash.
Some of these design flaws are admittedly pretty goofy though. I hope you enjoy it nonetheless.
Please post photos when you get the first roll back.

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>>4369630
Mint make half arsed, corner cutting, cheaply manufactured, overpriced, white elephants.
I respect OP giving honest opinions. I gave honest opinions on their instax cameras (that they're commendable but trash) and had faggots like yourself just blindly shill.

>>4369659
That's a skill issue with your eyes, bud. May want to get that checked out.

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>>4369271
Well, this thing is a fiasco. I shot the first roll all the way through last night, and when I rewound the film, it was so stiff I was afraid I would tear the perforations or severely scratch the film.
When I opened it up there were scratch marks all over the body and back from the pressure plate springs, the tip of a screw in the back, and even from the film canister itself. There were metal shavings in the film chamber.
I loaded it exactly as instructed and even watched the video. And of course I own and frequently use the 35SE so I'm familiar with the process. It's not me.
I emailed mint last night but still haven't heard back. I'll bet other people have been having this problem.
Even if they fix it under warranty that's money and time spent sending it to HK. I'm gonna try to get my money back instead. This camera just has too many problems. Makes me appreciate the thoughtfully-designed Hexar much more.

>tl;dr it's truly the Cybertruck of cameras. And I feel like a burned pre-orderer. The naysayers >>4369685 >>4369625 win after all.

A few more notes: the slot for the roll is too small for plastic reloadable cartridges. And there really is no "full auto". It's aperture priority or manual only. Which is very strange because I checked the camera over and the aperture is indeed electronically controlled.
Meanwhile I am about to process the first roll right now and post some scans by tonight. I'll also post a webm comparing the autofocus loudness and speed on /wsg/. There is considerable difference.

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>>4369842
>gash in the body from the back screw.
I think the problem is that Mint mistakenly aimed too close to the sun by rehashing an extraordinarily complex camera without the means to maintain the tolerances, fit and QA required of a Rollei-style design. Yes, most of the 35s were made in Singapore, but production was supervised directly by Rollei itself in a much larger factory.
Mint is basically a cottage-industry brand without that capability. Have you seen their factory? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=at4BlaaYJXI
And although the camera feels solid with the all-metal body, I've slowly realized that the fitment frankly gives the impression it was assembled at gunpoint. Just look at the battery door at >>4369541 , the gaps are all uneven.
I really do appreciate how ambitious they are and I wanted to support them, but they would have been SO much better off with a quiet, fast, slightly larger, well-made traditional compact.
I'm honestly so disappointed. I'd been looking forward to this thing for 2 years.

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>>4369853
Why the hell didn't you just save up for 2 years and buy a T3?

>>4369842
>I emailed mint last night but still haven't heard back. I'll bet other people have been having this problem.
>Even if they fix it under warranty that's money and time spent sending it to HK. I'm gonna try to get my money back instead. This camera just has too many problems. Makes me appreciate the thoughtfully-designed Hexar much more.

Naysayer back here. Welcome to the MiNT club. Good luck getting the money back.

>>4369842
thanks for the povs anon, now I'll avoid anything mint forever and ever. Appreciate taking one for the team

it's over

Damn, I hoped it would be good, but those all seem like major deal breakers.
Hope they make a mkii version that that rectifies those mistakes. I liked the specs and small modern additions, they just need to work out the kinks (and sort the viewfinder). They all seem like big problems though, so odd they released it like this.

I'm glad I shelled out the dough for a mint 35S last year, else I would've wasted money on this piece of shit.

Damn, what a disappointment OP. I'm sure this will all be remembered as "charm" in 40 years though, and they'll be marked up beyond belief on the used market.

lmao enjoy your chinkshit while my grandsons will still be using my Pentax 17 :)

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>>4369271
>What you're experiencing is perfectly normal, just move along now (:
I'm sorry but what?
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.
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WHAT!??

Well, now I'm pissed. So they apparently KNEW about these issues and did nothing.
I sent them a long autistic rant comparing it to the 35SE and saying scratches in the camera body should never be considered normal. If they still don't budge, I still have time to do a chargeback.
This is next level.

I wasn't even using a reloadable cartridge...

>>4370135
This is what Chinks do. They make out its a quirk and your not giving them face by appreciating their flawless product. Your using it wrong.
Glad you can chargeback.
Never buy from them.Terrible company. Keep telling people but nobody fucking listens, Lomography is another one...avoid.

>>4370139
You're ffs

>>4370139
>Lomography is another one
their film can be fun but overpriced, their cameras are dogshit (but that is the point hehe)

>>4370145
Sure their cameras are muh lomo but the company has really shitty responses if their camera has a fault during warranty.

>>4370113
Pretty much this
>>4370135
What can you expect from a guy named Augustus. Thanks for sharing OP, your 800$ sacrifice will not be in vain

>>4370135
Wow, the audacity. What a bunch of fuckers.

>>4370135
>a tad thicker than usual
Augustus Gloop would know.

>>4370145
>tfw cant help but like the half-frame
god help me soon ill catch the sprocket autism too

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>hipster filmfaggot slowly loses his mind as he discovers the overpriced toy he bought is, in fact, an overpriced toy
Holy shit this thread is gold.
Thanks for the lulz

real Rollei's are about to skyrocket in price, hope youve been stacking

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>>4369271
The camera completely died.
The shutter won't fire and the film won't advance, no matter what I try to do to finagle it. The screen is also glitchy and outputs bare nonsense.
I sent a second rant about this going into great detail about the problemz, and what does Mint say? It might be that I didn't advance the camera fully. Cont'd with the email exchange

>>4370295
This is art. Godspeed good sir

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>>4371514
Problems. Damn phone posting.

My email.

>>4370211
ohhhhhhhh

>>4370139
That's a really good point and I realize this now. Actually I remember dealing with such problems when I was living in Japan, so I guess it's an Asian thing.

>>4370049
based.

>>4370057
If the electronics are even still working lmao

>>4370113
kek
I wish I could love the Pentax 17, but half-frame is just an instagram meme. FF 33mm film is shitty enough as it is. I really hope they release a larger FF model with the same style and ergo.

>>4369966
>>4370173
>>4370192
So glad I made a thread about this or probably nobody would know what a piece of shit this thing is yet.

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>>4371520
His response

>Me: autistic screeching
>Augustus: did you advance the film properly? Please tell us more about the problem


FWIW I did scan some of the frames from the first roll and will post them in a little bit. Couldn't do so right away because my developer went bad, and then I had to prep for the hurricane.

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>>4370303
Thankfully I'm not for want of Rollei cameras.

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This keeps getting better and better

>>4371537
You don't want a rollei 6008AF? I thought we all wanted a rollei 6008AF.

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>>4371514
Fuck bros...
I thought this was going to be the one.
Really hoping you just got a dud OP.

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>>4369271
Mint accepted the refund request. Whew.
They have a warehouse in the US so I don't have to pay quite so much to ship it, which is nice.

Anyway, I'm gonna post 2 scans from the camera. That's all I can share because many of the pics are blurry as shit from the very low minimum shutter (I think it's 1/4 or so), and then most of them are of people or specific details about my workplace and I don't want to get doxxed.

Lens quality is ... okay I guess? Just as good as the Hexar (picture quality being one thing I don't like about that camera) but not nearly as good as the Sonnar. Reasonably sharp, but there really is a lot of flare. It pretty much is corroborated with the samples we've already seen.

>>4371577
Of course I do. But given a choice between that or the Rolleiwide, I took the wide.
I'd rather have the HY6 most of all for the significantly improved ergo, but that is well beyond my means.

>>4371807
>I thought this was going to be the one.
Yeah, same. I should have seen the writing on the wall on the early previews. Really a shame.

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>>4371924
Flash actually has pretty good throw for being so tiny.

>>4369541
> I am still grateful that they made this thing, but I can't figure out what they were thinking, except maybe they were just trying to cut costs. Seems like such basic oversights in usability.
Interestingly enough, pretty similar thoughts that I had when I got my Pentax17. Just that whole “make it make sense” aspect to it.

>>4369620
Friend, Rollie is nothing but a name to be whored out to the highest bidder these days. Like Polaroid was before impossible bought it, or what OMSystems is now.

>>4371924
>Couldn't even hold the camera level.

You deserve a broken camera/

>>4371955
Imagine thinking you know what another man deserves based on a single picture. Secret king autism to the max.

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>>4371947
This.
There have been some truly terrible cameras put out using the Rollei moniker.
Although ironically this one looks like this one has a better viewfinder than the 35AF. v

PetaPixel reviewed the camera and mentioned a lot of the problems OP was having, but it's a pretty soft critique of the camera overall.

https://petapixel.com/2024/10/12/mint-rollei-35af-review-style-over-substance/

>I had some issues with the top LCD panel showing erroneous markings; it would show my metering as +2 stops overexposed when in auto mode... I contacted Mint and the company assured me that some of these bugs are known and that everything will be rectified in future production cameras or gradually as they arise under warranty.
lol

My hopes for a good mkii version have kinda been dashed after seeing the nature of Mint's responses.
Nice you got a refund, but I'm sad the camera needs so much revision. But I'm skeptical about revisions anyway now given their responses.
Damn, I really liked it on paper though.

>>4373275
They never updated their Instantkon cameras even though sone of us sent feedback about a multitude of issues.
They're grifters. Petapixel should of not even given time to review their mediocre products.

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>>4369271
Well, the camera is out of my hands.
Mint posted the refund as soon as I sent them tracking confirmation, which was nice of them.
With that ends one of the weirdest and most disappointing experiences I've ever had in tech or photography. I'm still confounded.

The product felt rushed, even though it's been in development since at least 2017. It's made of solid metal, yet the controls (including the transport and shutter itself) feel stiff, plasticy and cheap. The camera is supposedly designed 'by photographers, for photographers', but some design choices feel as if it was made by someone who has never shot a P&S film camera before.

To bring this sort of inadequate product to market fully knowing of its defects, and not supporting their very expensive products which are already on market a la >>4373447 tells me that there's quite a discrepancy between the company's image ("we're just like you! we put loving care into our products!") and who they actually are ("we don't give a shit about quality or design, have fun with your overpriced 3rd rate camera.").

In the meantime, I've never been more grateful or appreciative of my ancient, trusty Hexar. That camera has some major quirks and the lens isn't very good (despite what is said about it), but it's fast, quiet, well-made, has a great viewfinder, and is le "one you have with you".

I'll still be lurking the thread in case anyone gets their preorder. I'm curious to see whether others have the same issues.

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