Let me guess, you need more?
>>4370324i need ibis, full frame, and an f2.8 zoom to not get mogged by an iphone 16
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My newest camera turned 11 today.
>>4370324RIP you sweet bastar- oh wait the R50 exists and is basically a straight copy with a real lens mount.>>4370326Skill issue.
>>4370334PANT PANT
>>4370326This but unironically.
>>4370324yea i need a z7ii with a 24-120 f/4, so that's what i got
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>>4370324I've been temped many times but the lack of full frame really stops me. It's not even an image quality thing. It's an 'I have lenses I really like and won't give them up' -thing
>>4370324this is the "cheap" camera we have in my office for doing field work. I fucking HATE it. piss poor indoor performance, mediocre outside in daylight, flimsy feeling, shit battery life, very unsatisfying shutter sound, stupidly easy to fuck with the screen when handling due to poor ergos. what a mess. much prefer our Z6, or the 90D if i'm absolutely forced to, but fuck the M6
>>4370324Why the fuck would I buy that giant ass body just to mount a pancake lens?
>>4377471Doth I detect a rustling of thine jimmies?>>4375109based[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Camera SoftwarePicasaImage-Specific Properties:
>>4375109>took picture with phoneyou literally proved yourself wrong
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>>4377588Yeah I need way fucking more. More competent build quality. More weather sealing. More well designed ergonomics. More sanely designed sensor. More quality to the lens. More photography, less larping as the film camera it will never be.That's why I chose the best camera: The Sony A7C with the 40mm f2.5 G. It's been with me for years, 150k shutter actuations, and tons of rainstorms. It held up when fujis hid in coats.xtrans = tranny camera. You will never be a real rangefinder. You have no celluloid base. You have no dye layers. You have no silver halides. You are a crude twisting of an electronic photon counter and when you take a 3ft drop and break in two it will be glaringly obvious, here lies a digital camera.
>>4377588x100v/i photos are so low quality without 20 minutes of special rawtherapee processing they look like an iphones, so if anything i need less.
>>4377589Shit evf>>4377589But muh recipes
I like my oly :)
>>4377471EOS M50 is toy camera levels of small and that's coming from someone with an APSC camera.
>>4375109Nice, when I started shooting I was stuck between this or a Fooj with the 27mm but went with the latter. Probably the good choice overal but I can't get over the fact yours is f2 while mine is f2.8
Friend has the M50 mk2, it's really fun to use, but even the lowest end full frame sensor paired with a mediocre lens will produce better looking photos, that's just a fact.
i have an rp so yes
>>4377698>Friend has the M50 mk2, it's really fun to use, but even the lowest end full frame sensor paired with a mediocre lens will produce better looking photos, that's just a fact.FF will do better in really low light, and high res FF will do better on really large prints. In most conditions that people shoot in, apsc does fine and will produce 16x20's that are indistinguishable from FF with just a little sharpening in post. And I say that as someone who fucking loves and exploits both high res FF and the extreme low light performance of FF.As for lenses: you can very quickly lose the FF sharpness advantage with a mediocre lens. As well as the low light advantage with a slow lens. The EF-M 22mm f/2 and 11-22 IS are literally worth owning a M body just to have them.
>>4377589>More weather sealing....and tons of rainstormsSuper neat, can we see some shots of yours from that? People always bring up weather sealing like it's a major deal, but no one ever posts photos in inclement weather, looking forward to seeing some of yours!
>>4377555I also own a 3ds XL I could have taken the picture with.
>>4377456Thats not a Canon M6 its an M50 MK1 or MK2 you numbskull.
>>4377724literally even worse. who's side are you on?
>>4377736Whose, not who's.
>>4377739
>>4377741>every interaction i have is with the same personYou even dug out your hyper-specific meme, this must happen a lot.
>>4377747I literally copy pasted that for google for this purpose. Have you maybe considered that you're an insufferable and pedantic?
>>4377749If someone corrected my grammar I'd just thank them and move on with my life.
>>4377750you'd thank someone for correcting your grammar? autist diagnosed, root of conflict understood.
>>4377707The said m50 produced usable low light photos at 1/100, iso 3200, f/1.8.Shitty dinamic range means you can't really underexpose and these limitations are what they are. This said, I used to shoot street with the aps-c and from a full-frame user's perspective it's fucking hell.But people who overpaid for a fucking Fuj because a used ff dslr is beneath them will need validation, I guess.
>>4377764oh yes, I'm sure dynamic range is the limiting factor to your photography
>>4377764>The said m50 produced usable low light photos at 1/100, iso 3200, f/1.8.ISO 3200 should be solid regardless of shutter/aperture as long as your exposure produces a good histogram. The original M could handle 3200, and 3200 (6400 in a pinch with post NR) covers a lot of situations, including some urban night scenes. Are there situations which benefit from FF? Absolutely, that's why I shoot FF. But most people most of the time don't fully explore the limits of apsc. >This said, I used to shoot street with the aps-c and from a full-frame user's perspective it's fucking hell.I don't know why, I love street on the M because of its size. I still grab it for street. Dimly lit night urban scenes call for FF, but bright city streets are fine on apsc, especially with IS. From experience I can say the M works fantastic on the Vegas strip (for example), and I've gotten casino shots on the M where a DSLR or FF MILC would have gotten my butt kicked out.
>>4377772Go shoot crop after sun sets, at f/3.5, 1/500 or faster and post results.
>>4377589I actually fell for this meme. Returned it within a week. The EVF is laughable and there's no way to switch between manual and auto aperture with the aperture ring. Back to my X-T4 I went.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution144 dpiVertical Resolution144 dpiCommentScreenshotColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width2492Image Height1660Scene Capture TypeStandard
>>43777821/500 and f/3.5 even on FF isn't going to be ideal. Appropriately NR'd, resized, and resharpened crop at ISO 3200 is perfectly servicable for that kind of photography. No 20x16 prints, but yeah go buy FF for that.Funny, since Canon's Multi-Shot NR is actaully bullshittingly good, but only useful for static subjects. Or just shoot B&W and embrace the luminance noise
>>4377793>f2.5when snoy re-labels m43 as fool frame
>>4377850>*OM SYSTEM GOY MEETING*>guys we aren't selling any 17mm f/1.2 lenses>Ok let's just sell them to the next most retarded camera company for them to rebrand
>>4377793Funny, I returned an x-t5 because a silly EVF is worth not having a premium priced camera that manages to be worse than a low budget APS-C DSLR (but it has... le video codecs and jpeg presets!).The "bad" EVF gives it vintage charm. Its only real flaw is the whole thing is a fucking dust magnet. If you take the lens off once you're fucked.For staying clean, having fast and accurate autofocus even in low light and on non-detectable subjects, and using manual focus glass and large lenses DSLRs reign supreme. Mirrorless has its niche as a hyper convenient high speed low drag full frame snapshit machine and expecting more of it is a fun way to end up wasting $4000+.
>>4377871>>4377850Seething but the 40mm is smaller, lighter, and sharper than any 35mm or 40mm on m43 and "equivalence" flat out does not apply to real photography. Daylight and flash provide ample light for 90% of photos and the base ISO on every micro four thirds camera except for the $2000, FF sized G9II is 200.Color quality is also inferior due to the small pixels. Full frame cameras get much better color gradation.
>>4377873I swear if you take a RAW out of MFT and edit it on actual software you get like... okay results? It's almost like the OOC software is self-aware and wants your photos to turn out in an easily distinguishable turd-like fashion. I reckon you could take an MFT snapshit RAW, strip the exif, give it a rodgering in LR/DT and pass it off as a broken Nikon in terms of colour and microcontrast
>>4377873So true, can we see some examples shots of yours with it?
>>4377875>he doesnt know olympus has the same green tint as the a7ii
>>4377880under artificial lighting olympiss skin colors compete with fuji skin colors for who can look more like a monkey pox infested corpse
>>4377879I'll take it out tomorrow for snapshits and see what I can do if you're actually asking instead of being a fag
>>4377879Maybe you could, but I closed my laptop to get a coffee and give someone their book back, which gave me a new IP, and a new long ass wait, so I totally lost interest and sat down at a lecture to restart the long ass wait AGAIN, and then took notes about proton decay instead of finding a photo to resize from 6k, compress, and resharpen to fit 4chan's archaic file limits without posting a 50% quality 6000x4000 jaypeg.At least I didn't wait too long and have to wait again.I don't see the point of posting photos on this shitty website. Just one snapshit of my a7c was an ordeal compared to how simple it is to post on better websites like flickr, 8khan, and reddit. It's glaringly obvious to me why no one here posts photos except the people with 6mp film scans and digishit/phone cameras. Just fucking posting is bad enough. Doctoring images to be uploadable is worse.This was my first time on /p/ because if you're a student or have some sort of life, arguably 4chan is only good for calling people niggers via your phone. That's all I do besides these 3 posts. I browse /v/ and randomly call people niggers.
>>4377890>I browse /v/ and randomly call people niggers.as god intended
>>43778904chan has an account system with the longest log in process on earth lmao>captcha>verify>log in to email>click verification linkVs>log in to 4chanall so people on nicer white man grade proxies/VPNs can still ban evade (i mean not be tracked) while stopping jeets with cheap rapidly rotating IPs from posting
>>4377890okay nophoto
>>4377956look in the mirror. look at your own lack of photo. he has a point. most cameras produce files that need edited specifically for 4chan but are ready to go right on imgur or flickr. /p/ is dead for a reason.>cant be doxable or else you’ll get harassed and accused of raping animals if you dared insult fuji four thirds (it is funny tho)>needs opened in gimped and massaged to fit good quality in 4mbLmao. i can text a full fucking 36mp photo to anyone with an iphone and they can zoom and crop as much as they want. no worries either because its real life instead of a stinky incel den that wants to murder anyone who voted democrat.
>>4377959if someone talks about gear, it's nice if they add a relevant photoit's takes less effort than writing out whole essays about how and why it's too hard to post a photo on a photo boardthere's also a lot of people with very strong opinions about gear they've never even used, so it's nice to confirm the perspective is coming from actual hands on experienceanytime i talk about specific gear, i do include photoif asked for relevant photo, i also post, what kind of photo would you like me to post? ive posted hundreds here and could just link to a few in other threads right now toocontinue with the excuses
>>4377996tldr nophoto
>>4377997i literally asked you for what kind of photo to post, so here you go with a random onea few more >>4369310 >>4375746 >>4375747
>>4377999gj hasphoto but you kinda suck. study garry winogrand and vivian maier for tips.
>>4377996I dont blame anyone for ragequitting a post over this new captcha. A 15 minute wait or making a throwaway just for 1 post is absurd unless you are literally here all day and never clear cookies because you only visit 4chan. This new system favors phoneposting unironically
>>4378000good advice nophoto
>>4377793>>4377872>F/2.5lol. lmao even.
>>4377782Why would I limit myself to 1/500 after the sun sets? Retarded straw man is retarded.EOS M + 18-55 IS f/3.5 ISO 800 1/10. Even when I was shooting people and worried about blur I just bumped to ISO 3200. If you have to shoot fast action in dim light is FF better? Of course. Most people don't need that, that's the only point I was making.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeCanonCamera ModelCanon EOS MCamera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop 25.12 (Macintosh)Maximum Lens Aperturef/3.5Image-Specific Properties:Image Width5130Image Height3384Number of Bits Per Component16, 16, 16Compression SchemeUncompressedPixel CompositionRGBImage OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Data ArrangementChunky FormatImage Created2024:10:25 20:40:02Exposure Time1/10 secF-Numberf/3.5Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating800Lens Aperturef/3.5Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length18.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width2400Image Height1583RenderingNormalExposure ModeManualWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandard
>>4378065>no you need f1.4!>why is mirrorless so big and expensive>why is dslr so soft without giant sigma art>i need micro four thirds! ah, at last, a 40mm f3.5 and a base ISO of 800. >ah yes, nonfunctional autofocus and
>>4378094This has to be bait.
>>4378110And why is that?
>>4378100if I wanted to shoot f3 or whatever I'd get micro four thirds or some shitty cheap kit lens. why the fuck would snoy put a G on such a dark lens? it's like ... geee ... >the focal length is like 40mm ... so we can't possibly engineer a lens with a opening diameter of 20mm.>16mm is the biggest hole we can makeand snoy goys gobble that slop up like cum
>>4378065>FF e-mount>compact size>fast aperturePick 2
>>4378129Because the pic looks like it was taken with a 10 year old chinkphone.
>>4378179okay nophoto
>>4378179Now this is bait.
>>4378141to make the lens smaller while still being sharp wide open. wide aperture lenses on large sensors can be sharp and large or soft and small. either/or. same reason medium format is f4 and f2.8 most of the time. >>4378170sony’s 50mm f1.4 is the size of nikons 50mm f1.8 and superiorsony’s 50mm f1.2 is the smallest, the sharpest, and vignettes less than canon’s and about as much as nikon’s huge oneso it cant be the mount now can it?
>>4378224BUT MUH EQUIVALENCE!That literally does not apply to IRL photography. Crop copers keep gobbling up “equivalence includes ISO!” but besides being technically wrong, its also rare for “equivalent” settings to make sense IRL. Perhaps if you had a larger, softer, heavier micro four thirds 20mm f1.25 to shoot wide open with loads of CA at iso 1000 noise and iso 200 exposure, snoy would be btfo!
>people fighting over an f2.5 lensequivalence sisters… this is an apsc camera with a 40mm f1.8. no its not a gfx. its an xh2. the body is about the size of a canon r6ii btw. i like sony’s f2.5, its good wide open. canon’s 35mm f1.8 is a faster lens but not better. nikon’s 40mm f2 is bottom of the barrel plastic and worth <$100. but hey, no matter which one you have its a smarter choice than this thing.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Image-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width1280Image Height720Scene Capture TypeStandard
>>4378229>nikon’s 40mm f2 is bottom of the barrel plastic and worth <$100>coping and seethingSnoy skill issue
>>4378236That lens is not sharp at any aperture, the mount is plastic which is guaranteed to loosen and leave dust and shavings inside the camera, and the photos actually look like crap from the extreme field curvatureAn anon here actually almost broke his z6ii because the 40mm f2 leaked water into his lens mount and temporarily switched to a lolympus that makes snoy look godly (20mm f1.4 """pro""") out of anger kek
>>4378236>nikon logo, lcd, iso button, the pas from pasm, and the watch all bright greensadly i can tell its not shot on a snoy because the skin is oversaturated pink (nikon) instead of dull beige (fuji, sony)is this the power of nikon's color science
>>4378239skill issue
>>4377588until now I have only been shooting analogue but I thought about getting one of these. I have never used a good digital camera. Will I be able to use (my old) lenses with manual focus? I find auto focus and related stuff like very gay, I want to take the picture and not some AI assisted programm which cannot even recite the first lines of Mein Kampf.Is there a better option for me? I would like to have as much control as possible and I would like to be able to use my old lenses with adapters. Just like my old analogue cameras, only digital. Also, I want to compose through a viewfinder
>>4378434I believe the post you replied to is showing Fuji's fixed lens model.To use your old lenses you need an interchangeable lens mirrorless camera with the right adapter for your lenses, preferably FF for the same fov. Typical manual focusing aids include magnification (part of view shown 5x in the EVF) and peaking (in focus details are overlaid in red, a really convenient way to judge the plane of focus). Canon RF also has focusing aid where you have a movable box and arrows above the box indicating how far out of focus detail in the box is. Center the arrows and you're in focus.Pretty much any FF mirrorless will let you control everything, i.e. full manual exposure in M mode.One thing you will run into is that your manual lenses will generally not be coupled to the camera's meter. (I'm not sure if there are any adapters which work around this for some mounts.) So you will have to do "stopped down metering" where you set the aperture at the lens and then meter the scene to set shutter and ISO. FF bodies with good high ISO sensors and EVFs will 'gain up' so that you can still see the scene and focus even with the lens stopped down.I'm not aware of any cameras which can recite Mein Kampf, though I suppose you could fork Magic Lantern and add the capability.
>>4378229>muh clinical sharpnesssure, if you want that, just get the Nikon Z 50mm f1.8sbut the 40mm has really nice character. way more than your clinical chart-retard optimized snoy trash
