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Nikon DSLRs General /NDG/

Anyone still shooting with them? What's your favorite?
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Yes. Guess.
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>>4371596
>Still shooting with Nikon in 2024
They can't even make a proper pancake lens instead they have to make a fake one by splitting the actual lens size in half with no filter thread and it cant even focus and goes BZZZZZZT BZZZZZT
Buy a Sony a7 instead
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/p/ I happen to have both a D200 and a D300 (I got it super cheap $50). I expected to like it much more than I did, but I much prefer the photos out of the D200. What's going on?
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>>4371605
It's a CCD.
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I have a D600, it's the only one I've ever owned. Mainly got it so I could use the same lenses for a DSLR as well as my F5. It's pretty great even being as old as it is, even though it does have the oil/dust issue and needs cleaning regularly. I'm probably going to sell it soon, just because I really only shoot film nowadays, and the value isn't going up over time. But for what it is, it's pretty good.
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>>4371623
D610 is the same thing minus having to do all the maintenance, the D6XX was such a dud they had to discontinue the line.
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>>4371626
Yeah I know, I got a really good deal on the D600 though. I know some people call it a dud, but I've never had any beef with its image quality or anything besides the oil issue, really. The oil problem soured people on it to the point where it never had a chance to earn a place in the market on its merits otherwise. Nikon's QA fail sank an otherwise competent camera.
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I like shooting my old D4.
I'm looking for a deal on a D5 though.
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D800 haven’t touched for about 4 years
D750 haven’t touched for a year

I’m not coming back unless editing tech improves to 1 click finished product, Nikon raws just require too much work.
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>>4371631
>I’m not coming back unless editing tech improves to 1 click finished product, Nikon raws just require too much work.
Lol I find the opposite. I have a7iii and my d700 and d810 require 10x less edits in lightroom than Sony raw. Sony was the only time I had to buy color profiles to get past the awful skin tones.
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>>4371631
>I’m not coming back
Back from what?
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>>4371633
Putting up spy cameras in the gym locker room
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>>4371632
Same here, my D700 needs very little when i expose decently, colours are great when overexposing a bit and sliding it down on Ps.
Although greatly depends on one needs, perhaps anon likes something not quite easy for old cams but even then you can download and make colour profiles in that one Nikon website.
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>>4371632

True I imagine Sony is far worse.
If I had my time again I would go canon, I think their colours are just slightly nicer.
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>>4371632
It's not the camera, it's the raw processor you're using and the preconfigured color profile.
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>>4371640

Digital cameras really can’t get green right huh,
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>>4371632
This. Sony still has the worst color science.
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>>4371640

Also in classic digital camera fashion the person looks like they are made entirely of plastic.
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>>4371640
Yep. I realized that. Capture one didn't have the color issues that Lightroom had but I like the asset management in Lightroom.
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>>4371640

I just don’t understand how both of these brands can end up with totally different colours when shooting a colour checker. Something is being cooked somewhere
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>>4371640
sonysisters not like this...
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>>4371640

Look how different the browns are hahaha
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>>4371669
Wrong board chud >>>/pol/
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>>4371671
Not quite, even Ansel Adams talks about this in the Zone System
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>>4371658
The sony looks desaturated and less punchy than the canon.
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>>4371686
kek'd
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>>4371640
Lmao these the skintones digital gets out of camera. Embarassing.
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D4. Still my main camera. I don't really have a reason to upgrade.

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>>4371600
>They cant make a pancake so buy a sony instead
what?
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>>4371596
No everyone who had them moved to canon, as every single model has a Canon equivalent that mogs it, plus EF > F
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>>4371596
I bought a D40 a week or two back, first time shooting with a real camera. It's fun. The editing process can be a little tedious though, but I enjoy being able to actually work on my photos myself rather than just trusting my phone.

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>>4371713

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>>4371714
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>>4371715
nice
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>>4371605
take a side by side comparison shot, im curious how they differ

>>4371631
enable active d-lighting bro, no need 2 shoot raw ever again (i never do this im too autistic)
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>>4371596
I used them for many years but went to a Sony mirrorless as my main a while back. I still have the Nikons since I have so many good lenses, but they're more like secondary cameras for me now.

>>4371632
Sony hasn't been too bad really, especially if you use raw processing softweare that can use other color profiles. I've never heard of paying for profiles though, don't most processors include quite a few?
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17-35mm or 20-35mm?
Former has shorter MFD but latter is way better build
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>>4371732
>take a side by side comparison shot, im curious how they differ
I will try to do this later today.
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>>4371738
>don't most processors include quite a few?
Yeah, I just didn't like the adobe profiles in lightroom for people (I had to shift too much for magenta and then fix the wb for everything). I bought the Color Fidelity profiles and theyre a closer match to nikon colors imo vs default sony.
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>>4371596
My D800 is still better than anything else I can afford. Guess I'll be shooting with it for another decade.
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>>4371600

45 GN and 50 Series E have entered the chat

>>4371605

CCD, I have a D60 and the colors fuck.

D300 is still good I'd never keep both in my stable though, I have a 300 IR converted and I like it.

>>4371745

Nikon AF-D? Skip them both and get the 16-35 they're cheap now. Or save a little more and find a Tamron 15-30
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>>4371745
>17-35mm
If it's an AFD dont get as they have a material problem with the motor going out eventually and it's no longer replaceable. I have one, that someone fucked around with the focusing heliod and now it won't focus to infinity, and is basically a macro kek.
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>>4371837

They are replaceable but the motor depending on which one it is, can be a bitch.

Every single Nikon AF-S lens with an SWM motor uses one of two motor designs, most use the big one and the DX lenses use a smaller one. They are all the same motor. What happens is the plastic bearings the motor rides on disintegrate or they need oil. Most of the time the plastic breaks and you can't get replacement rollers so it's fucked. I've seen a lot of 28-70 ED's end up like this on my table and if I can ever get replacement rollers I'll buy all of them.

t. camera repair tech
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>>4371837

17-35 is ez,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt7rRTT6Dco

you'll need special tools, which I have.
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>>4371732
>take a side by side comparison shot, im curious how they differ
D200 jpeg sooc. Just realized I shot the D300 with a slightly wider aperture f3.2 vs f3.5 on the D200

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>>4371844
D300

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>>4371596
I own d610. Great camera but It rests on the shelf lately.
Replaced it with mirrorless by Sony. DSLRs can't compete in terms of AF and high-ISO with modern cameras in my opinion.
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>>4371842
thanks fren. I will give this a watch over the weekend.
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>>4371844
>>4371845
>ccd vs cmos
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>>4371852

Make sure you use JIS screwdrivers if you attempt. These aren't hard to work on you just have to have attention to detail.

I've done my D800, D700, Df, 24-70, 70-200/2.8 VR1 and a slew of other lenses using Youtube tutorials. Do not take shortcuts, do it right the first time. I have stuff I've serviced 5 years ago that are still in front line production because I did them right.

If you have any questions ask me here.
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>>4371841
That's the dilemma. Screw drive lenses are less likely to break, but can't be properly adapted to Z.
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>>4371871

17-35 is an AF-S I believe so it can
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>>4371596
Give it to me straight, my Nikkas.

I have a D810 currently and may have the opportunity to trade some gear in at a KEH event at my local camera store. Is upgrading to a used D850 worth it or should I switch to a new Zf or Z6 II?

Most of my glass is AF-S or AI so lens compatibility isn't an issue

I may also just be wanting new gear for no real reason
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>>4371885
Anything but a ZF is going to be a downgrade in autofocus or dynamic range, sometimes both. The state of Nikon is absurdly poor.
>Z9: Low DR, 1 recall out, check serial before buying
>Z8: Low DR, 2 recalls out, check serial before buying
>Z6III: Low DR, bigger than its predecessor
>ZF: Normal DR, forced NR above iso 12k, pretty bad body design
>Z7II, Z6II: very mild fixed pattern noise banding barely visible sometimes, rarely. shit autofocus comparable to fuji, panasonic, and 2nd gen sony.
>Z6, Z7: noticeable banding when pushing exposure, even shittier autofocus, recall out for each, check serials
>Z5: Good sensor shit autofocus
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>>4371667
i see no difference
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>>4371745
>17-35mm
Has the issue with the focus motor dying as others mentioned. What others didn't mention though is that your DOF (especially at the wide end) is so large that AF really isn't necessary in most cases

>20-35mm
Better build is nice to have but unless you're pretty rough with your gear, I'd base your decisions on other factors. It being a screw-drive lens means you'd lose AF if you ever adapt it to Z mount (but again, who cares about AF with ultrawides)

Unless you're specifically after a wide angle with an aperture ring, I'd go with what >>4371835 said and get a 16-35 instead, I love mine. I'd avoid the 15-30 if you ever plan on using filters or will bring it when traveling/hiking as it's huge and heavy, despite it's great performance
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>>4371910
https://www.nikon.com/company/sustainability/society-labor/diversity-inclusion/
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>>4371909
The Z7III is just going to be an a7riv with a vibrance boost and less DR
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>>4371913
It's extortion, they have no choice.
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Which DX zooms hold up on the 24mp sensors?
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>>4371915
they had every choice in the world. you don't see om system or fujifilm doing this.

i wonder why cameras keep getting technologically worse?
>female manager: like, omahgod, stop pixel peeping, photography is all about vibes and reels now like geeze, nerd. why do you want "smaller" cameras? like ohmahgod that's for creepshots, we should like make cameras like, bigger, so women can see them coming, small cameras are so sexist.
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>>4371920
It's publicly traded, it's all down to the top investors and what their roadmap for any particular company or market is. These people cripple private companies to the point they fail and then buy them, or infiltrate public companies with endless laundered foreign aid dollars and cripple them to the point they can buy them out or trigger restructuring to their liking. "Wokeness" is just the latest tool to this end. They always use and abuse everyone. Anyone who believes corporate billionaires give a fuck about diversity or inclusion is incredibly retarded, it's all an excuse.
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>>4371919
Fujifilm's DEI program is basically about encouraging women to have children and encouraging male employees to assume every woman there is married, because she should be.

It doesn't even qualify as DEI by american standards.
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>>4371927
Yes, buy a used camera based on the obscure policy webpage associated with the brandname on it, you're a real culture warrior lmao

No better than the soiboys who buy more star wars funko pops whenever they do a heckin lgbtqiapz+ representation
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>>4371931
>nooo dont tell me not to consoom based on what policy webpage is associated with the brand name on a used camera! TRANNIES!
Yeah so this thing you're doing is called virtue signaling

You weren't going to give money to the company anyways, you're not a market participant. Buy what you want, from conservative individuals, and tape over the brand name and strip exif if advertising is a sore spot for you.

Oh wait, if you stripped exif, for what reason would you buy a gfx50r... your only audience is /p/ and 80% of the value in each photograph is how you can shitpost in gear threads with that exif
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>>4371937
>I gotta virtue signal. Oh my science did disney say they stand by bipoc rights? *empties wallet*
you're literally the right wing version of this buying a fuji just because their DEI policy doesn't explicitly mention fags
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>>4371917
I actually had pretty decent results with an 18-55mm kit lens on a D810. I forget what focal length you had to be at to eliminate vignetting though
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>>4371940
>noooo, if you don't want to give money to DEI infiltrated fags you're the woke right!! You should be enlightened liberal centrist like me!
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D850. Yeah its great. Will probably go mirrorless eventually but I havent got a super high shutter count on this thing yet, and I like the ergonomics.
Plus I'm trying to stretch it out until Nikon push out a better sensor.
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>>4371948
>an 18-55mm kit lens on a D810
Jesus christ, why
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i like my Z7II :)
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>>4371977
if youre buying a used camera you arent giving money to any corporations except ebay and usps retart
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>>4371647
I'm shooting mostly landscapes and I regularly get infuriated simply trying to replicate the correct green tones
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>>4371925
>DEI program is basically about encouraging women to have children
>and encouraging male employees to assume every woman there is married
That doesn't make sense, it really is DEI
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>>4371835
>they're cheap now
Much bigger and f4 only. I did take it into consideration, guess i will have to again

>>4371837
>material problem with the motor
>AF-D
Do you mean the helicoid? motor is on the camera.
>someone fucked around with the focusing heliod
Should i then not have someone dick around with the helicoid? >>4371878 but oh shit you guys are right, it's a D but also AF-S. Plastic shit.

>>4371895
Because i will use it on a D700 and adapt it into a Z body, still undecided which one, i don't mind manual and i might also use a AF adapter while levering the weight.
>unless you're pretty rough with your gear
I take care but i am also used to windy desert conditions and hoping around with a backpack full of lenses. So no, i care about the mount ring and front element but not the body.
>aperture ring
I do want those for the same adapting reasons, f4 is too slow for 11pm shots in a dark downtown areas.

>>4371909
>Z6II has atrocious autofocus
I've used one and the only bodies i've ever used (borrowed of course) better were a A7RIV (shit ergonomics) and a Nikon D5 (stumbles in full darkness)
You are blowing it out of proportion.
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>>4371600
Pancake lenses are a ho hum Optical formula looking for a user's who are better served by other lenses
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I have a D750 and it's pretty gud, I especially like its ISO-invariance
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Any idea what sort of video D750 does? Is it all line skipped? It almost seems like it might be usable for non-serious stuff, but then they do shit like giving it zero manual focus assistance. It's so half-assed.
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>>4372330
I don't know I'm into photography, I didn't buy my camera for video
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>>4372332
Dick
>>4372330
For real tho, dont get a dslr for video. Mirrorless or an actual dedicated video camera will serve you much better.
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>>4372334
>Dick
What do you mean? I gave pretty much the same answer as you did
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>>4372332
Neither did I.

>>4372334
By non-serious I mean less serious than my photography (which I'm not getting paid for either). Target of opportunity which doesn't work in a photo. It-was-not-a-factor-when-buying-the-camera level of non-serious. But then I realized that they even gave it a hardware switch for video, which would seem like a completely pointless thing if it couldn't do anything other than line skipped trash. If the video turned out to be acceptable, might as well use it if the opportunity arises.
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I like my D3 :) it's my friend!
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>>4372338
>But then I realized that they even gave it a hardware switch for video, which would seem like a completely pointless thing if it couldn't do anything other than line skipped trash. If the video turned out to be acceptable, might as well use it if the opportunity arises.
All Nikons that can record video, have a switch to put it into video mode. The presence or absense of it doesn't say much about the quality of said video.
I don't know where to find out if the sensor output is reduced from 24mp to 1080p by lineskipping, or something else, but I'm going to assume if it was something better than bare minimum the Nikon would brag about it in the camera specs.
I have a D750 and the video is "ok". People filmed entire movies and tv shows on DSLR's before FF mirrorless was a thing, so it's probably "good enough" for what I'd use it for, if I used it.
At least it isn't like the cheaper DX DSLR's where you have to choose the aperture before you start filming and can't change it.
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>>4371845
This is mainly the default JPEG settings. If you pull the raws of both of those into Lightroom, use the same Adobe color profile, and hit the "Auto" button - I doubt you'll be able to tell the difference.
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>>4372041
because he's poor
that lens is usable at 24mm and costs less than half of any full frame 24mm lens, zoom or prime
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>>4372041
>>4372844
I had just bought my camera and didn't have any lenses for it yet so. While I waited for a lens to arrive in the mail, I borrowed the 18-55 from my mom :)

But yeah for the price it's actually pretty sweet on FF
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>>4372854
yeah I have a d7200 and a d750 and when I tried that lens on the d750 it's perfectly adequate, especially if its one of the VR ones.
it's almost certainly the cheapest f-mount lens with VR.
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people constantly say the 28mm 2.8 AIS is the best MF wide angle, but apparently it's not as good at infinity. would the 24mm 2.8 be better than it for landscapes? it has its fans but certainly less than the 28mm.
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>>4372915
>MF
What
There's no medium format Nikon DSLR
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>>4372915
The 28mm f2 AIS is better at infinity and for landscapes. Sharp as fuck too. It has more distortion up close and a faint glow wide open but I guess that's the point. If you can live with those two things, it's a great lens and not too expensive. Dunno about the 24mm MF version but the AF-D version was pretty good.
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>>4372844
>>4372854
Doesn't a DX lens automatically get cropped to APS-C size on Nikon FF though?
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>>4371596
just bought a D850 two years ago. I love it
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>>4372965
>Doesn't a DX lens automatically get cropped to APS-C size on Nikon FF though?
Yes but on FF DSLR's you can turn that and off crop it in post if needed.
With some lenses at some focal lengths and apertures, you may find no cropping at all is needed.
The 18-55mm kit DX lens is well known to need little-to-no cropping from 24-55mm, so you can basically use it as a 24-55mm FX lens.
On FF mirrorless they took this away and you're stuck with the camera's default 1.5 crop.
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>>4372971
Huh
The more you know
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>>4372972
Yeah it's a pretty useful trick for poors who've just converted from a DX camera to FX and still have lot of DX lenses
Nikons plan for such folks is that you'd use your DX lenses in 1.5 crop mode until you got tired of the lower resolution, then you'd shell out the bucks for actual FX lenses.
But since they gave the camera the ability to turn the crop off and just let it vignette (like a film camera would), they incidentally give you a lot of power to get slightly more out of the DX lenses than they probably intended.
On the 35mm 1.8 DX for instance, vignetting is so mild at f/1.8 that many might choose to just keep it in, since who cares about vignetting in a shot where everything but dead center is bokeh? And you're getting the full megapickels of your FX sensor.
This probably explains why this mysteriously disappeared from the Z bodies.
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>>4372980
>This probably explains why this mysteriously disappeared from the Z bodies.
Yeah, makes sense...
On that note, do you happen to know of a 120mm film camera that takes F-mount FF glass? Or can adapt it well?
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>>4372982
no idea
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>>4371871
>Screw drive lenses are less likely to break, but can't be properly adapted to Z.
I hear contradictory things about how much better AF is supposed to be on AF-S lenses. Faster AF was the original reason anyone would want to move on to AF-S, right?
Most Ken Rockwell reviews of AF-S lenses just say it's "about as fast" as whatever AF-D lens it is supposed to replace.
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>>4373083
ken rockwell doesnt put any effort into those copypaste reviews
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>>4373083
One thing to note with screw-drive lenses is that focusing speed is dependent not only on the lens design, but also on the power of the camera focus motor. From personal experience, screw drive AF with a lens on an F801 may feel glacial, but the same lens on a D810 will focus noticeably faster. AF-S does not have this inter-camera variance (that I am aware of). On average I would say that the difference between screw-drive and AF-S is narrower with modern bodies, but AF-S still wins.
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>>4373083
AF-S is particularly faster for telephoto applications (lots of heavy glass to move) and close to the same for normal to wide lenses. They are prone to breaking but I don't trust modern e-waste lenses to last 15 years either.
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>>4373092
Ren kockwell is not a good reviewer of anything unless your typical shot is made with eye-searing saturation and is mostly of car badges and motel bilboards
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>>4373125
APOLOGIZE TO HIM AND HIS GROWING FAMILY IMMEDIATELY

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>>4373130
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. MY EYEEEEEEEEES
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Does anyone know where i can get an adapter to put an L39 LTM lens onto a nikon F mount body?
Thanke
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>>4371841
Do the small ones break too?
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>>4371871
>can't be properly adapted to Z
Good; it will suppress the prices.
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>>4371913
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>>4371919
Rollei
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>>4371920
Women are one of the demographics that prefer smaller cameras.
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>>4371928
>make a right wing nazi camera
Zeiss already exists.
They just need to start making cameras again.
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>>4371923
>These people cripple private companies to the point they fail
How do they do that?
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>>4371935
>Yeah so this thing you're doing is called virtue signaling
The corporation is the one virtue signaling.
He's just responding to their signals.
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>>4371935
>You weren't going to give money to the company anyways
What gave it away?
His stated desire to buy a camera that's been out of production for over two years?
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>>4373083
>Faster AF was the original reason anyone would want to move on to AF-S, right?
Most of the time it was FTM and/or not having the fucking focus ring turning beneath your hand because Nikon was too stupid/cheap to implement a transmission clutch, like even Tokina did.
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>>4373092
Who's better?
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>>4371850
Different type of auto focus...

Other than the z9 and maybe z6iii all other nikon mirrorless aren't as good as the d500.

I have a d500 and d7500 as backup. I shoot wildlife, unless I can somehow get enough for a z9 I don't see a reason to upgrade just yet.
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>>4371850
Sorta similar, I use my Nikon DSLRs for portraits and around the house. When I leave home, I take my Sony mirrorless with me. I prefer the Nikon look overall though. Until Nikon mirrorless catches up with Sony, I will stick with 2 systems for the time being.
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>>4374233
have you actually used sony mirrorless?

nikon mirrorless definitely caught up, and then shit all over it. it's called the ZF. technologically it is a brilliant camera, the best specced full frame mirrorless on the market today period. every other camera has specialized copes that affect output, the ZF is just pure good.

the downside is the body design is a fucking retarded mix of PASM and dials combined with a fucking retarded mix of digital camera size with small film camera ergos. large film cameras like the pentax 67 were actually more comfortable to use (and didnt have cheap plastic baseplates!)
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>>4374237
Yeah, I have used Sony Mirrorless since the NEX. I mean generally for lens availability and 3rd parties. It's Sony's world right now, and everyone else is 2nd.

I definitely prefer the Nikon ergos over Sony, which is only useable as a best description.
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>>4374239
>I mean generally for lens availability and 3rd parties
Here you go bruh.

All sony really has is the a1, the scientific instrument known as the a9iii, and the a7c original. Two tech monsters for journalists and journalists only, and a compact that is actually really well designed and justifies its compromises well. The rest of their cameras suck shit in basically every way and are engineered to make you wish you had an a1.
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>>4374242
oops

there's also the ttartisan 6 bit adapter and a few autofocus leica M adapters

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>>4372982
Some people use Sigma Art lenses on Fuji medium format cameras because the Image circles are quite large I guess. I specifically remember mention of the 28 1.4 and the 40 1.4.
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>>4374577
Neat
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>>4371842
I actually managed to fix it. I just took the front element group off and then put it back on, and I think whatever I did aligned it again. Now my infinity focus is working again. ty Sugar
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>>4372041
Certain FF models have DX mode, making DX lenses work on FF cameras. Not perfect, but it does work.
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Are megapixels largely overrated by people? I often shoot with a d200, d300, d700, and d810. And when looking through past photos in lightroom, I have to see the data to see which one was which.
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>>4374629
Forgot to add, I have a d70 also and that is the only one I can usually tell is not the same as the others IQ wise. But that is largely i think more so a limitation of it's ISO.
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>>4374629
In theory more megapixels should make the camera more color accurate as it can better sample an area in a given space compared to a lower resolution sensor. But in practice I doubt anyone would notice (as you haven't)

It's a myth that resolution increases sharpness, because it's entirely relative. A 2mp file on your phone will look great, but on an 80" 4k tv, would look like ass. A 100mp image will look identical on both. Resolution is more about determining how large your image can be displayed/printed.

Imo, any camera with 8mp or more will be indistinguishable on the same display viewed at normal distances at an equivalent scale.
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>>4374629
>Are megapixels largely overrated by people?
Yes, I've made some nice poster sized prints on a D40 at 150dpi. I think about 12mp is enough for me, to allow some leeway for cropping.
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>>4374629
If you care about pixels, then the d810e is your best bet.
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>>4374633
>It's a myth that resolution increases sharpness, because it's entirely relative
wrong.

digital cameras alias. even when downscaling, higher resolutions have less aliasing.

compare a gfx100s, an x-t4, and a d40 at 8mp, guess what, the expensive one still look better than the cheaper ones

>>4374643
>D40
>posters
man looking at that shit must make people yearn for film's return
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>>4374863
>d810
lol no
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d810/17
If you care about pixels avoid d800/d810 what use is a high MP count if it's ruined by mirror slap
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>>4374932
lmao, I've used my D800 for ten years now. Over 300k shutter revolutions. Never ever been a problem, and the images it produces are sharp as a tack.
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>>4374948
Post examples with sub 1/250 shutter speeds then!
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>>4374932
Similar to >>4374948, I've had a D810 for like 6 years and have lost sharpness from what could have been mirror slap no more than 5 times, every time being the result of using a 180mm+ lens with a sub-1/100 shutter speed on an unstable tripod setup. And even then, shooting via live view or using the mirror up shooting mode resolves the issue
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>>4374948
>>4374957
that's crazy for having owned the camera so long you two are unable to post a single photo with sub 1/250 shutter speeds
Guess your word invalidates DPreview's tests!
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>>4374959
What other requirements for a photo do you want, your highness? A lens with no VR? No tripod? Telephoto only? I'll be able to dig one up no matter what but I already know you're going to move the goalposts so I want you to be as specific as possible so I can prove you wrong
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>>4374953
>>4374959
I guess I'm blind then. This is 1/80, handheld.
Looks fine to me.

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Just wanted to try out my handheld skillz now.

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>>4374967
>>4374968
Based watchbro
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>>4374967
confirmed blind thanks for posting
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>>4374967
>>4374968
convinced me to not get a d800/d810
Would rather have a sharp photo with less MP than visibly blurred photos at high res
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>>4374976
>he bought ze FUD
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>>4371596
>What's your favorite?
D40 obv

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>>4374973
>>4374976
Cope and seethe.
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>>4374968
Nice Seiko. I don't care if they are a "cheap" brand. They've always made the coolest watches, in my opinion.
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>>4374989
thanks fren. I bought that for myself when I graduated undergrad in mid 2000s. Was the most expensive gift I had every bought myself up to that point $300.
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>>4374932
I didn't say D 810, I said D 810 E.

There's a difference. Look it up.
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>>4375001
The only E variant camera is the D800E. There is no D810E since the "E" was to signify the removal of the AA filter from the sensor, which the D810 doesn't have anyhow. The only letter variant of the D810 is the D810A, which is geared towards astrophotography.

With all that being said though...
I recall a very foggy memory around 2013 of me as an early teen attending a photo workshop led by a Nikon ambassador. Since I didn't have a DSLR at the time, he let me use a prototype sports body, one of only ten made by Nikon and distributed to ambassadors for testing. If I recall correctly, it was a D4E, but I haven't been able to find anything about it online since. So maybe a D810E does exist. But being an E variant wouldn't really make sense given what the E stood for previously
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got a D4 this spring. Just ordered all new grips for it yesterday. should be good to go after that.
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>>4375066
It's a fun camera. I had one for almost 2 years but never got to push it to its full potential
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>>4374985
>10.5cm f/2.5
Holy mother of based
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>>4375084
105mm f/2.5 is hardly special.
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>>4375085
It's special to me
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>>4375086
Well that's cool then, I prefer the 105 f/1.8.
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>>4374932
>what use is a high MP count if it's ruined by mirror slap
do Nikons not have mirror lock up?
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>>4375118
They do
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>>4371596
Bought a D850 two years ago from a photographer who had two bodies. Shuttercount of 9k. Was pretty happy.
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Shutter on my D3100 died on me and the repair estimate for it was high enough that I felt better buying a d3400 body instead
Still rocking my kit lens, a 35mm 1.8 and a 55-200 vrii
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>>4375118
Imagine having to use a tripod + mirror lockup + EFC for anything under 1/250 lmfao
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Bought a 55-200 with broken VR at the junk shop, is it useless? It looks like an earthquake at 200mm.
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>>4375824
Are you using it indoors? It probably doesn't help on a crop sensor.

You need either:
More light
Tripod
Faster shutter speed (which you will get with more light).

VR itself is worth a certain amount of stops of light.

200mm is 350mm and that is going to be a bitch to handhold for steady portraits.
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>>4375826
And to answer your question, no it's not useless. Lenses have been made with no VR at that focal length for the entirety of photography. You just need to learn to work with the limitations inherent at long focal lengths.
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>>4375826
>>4375827
Thanks, I'll dig up my tripod and practice.
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>>4374967
>>4374968
NDG is now a handheld watch picture thread.
Watch out—watchbros are taking over.

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>>4371596
I have a D850 but it's been a few months, maybe a year since I touched it. Shooting my F4 more.
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>>4375824
it's not useless but one with functional VR will only set you back $50 so don't think about it too hard
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>>4375927
are you an albino or just naturally pigment deficient & pasty as fuck
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>>4375927
Damn sister nice watch

>tfw no d3 shooting autistic watch collector gf
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Tourist here, just picked up a cheap D100 for a costume but I intend to learn how to use it. Look forward to my shitty beginner tier photos.
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>>4376100
just rule of thirds everything and shoot a 35mm f1.4 wide open all of the time
keep shutter speeds high, use more color denoise when needed and less luma denoise, it looks like film grain
apply mild selective color edits to pin everything in every set to one 3 color palette by drawing focus to it (ie: orange blue black). you really want to shoot for this sooc and use less editing, aka avoid having ugly color combos in your pictures.
>if color sounds hard, and it is, shoot in black and white mode and pay attention to contrast.
put a white border around every photo

there you go, how to be a good photographer. it sounds easy but it must be hard because ive seen some ken rockwell color shit here and it never gets better
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>>4376100
I don't but if you're going to learn here's some tips.
>Pretend you're shooting film and each shot costs money as in shoot with a purpose.
>Boring photos are boring just like too much going on in a photo is too much.
>Shoot RAW and learn to edit.
>Take photos everyday and take multiple angles of something you think is interesting so you can learn why some angles work and some don't. (This counts as shooting with a purpose)
>Don't rely on cropping ever and don't use telephoto lenses unless you absolutely can't get closer such as wildlife or sports.
>Learn how light works / understand the exposure triangle
>RTFM of your camera

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>>4376104
>>4376105
Thanks for the tips, anons.
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>>4376082
That's normal color, anon. You should try sunscreen.

>>4376083
Thanks Anon. I need to fix the movement (balance wheel stops oscillating after a few seconds so it's either the balance spring needing to be replaced or there being dirt or damage along the train of wheels.) and clean the hands but I have recurring nightmares about messing up (I've never worked on a movement worth more than 100 dollars before)) so I've put it off.

>>4376100
Nice anon, welcome to pee!
I've had a couple D70s and D70Ss pass through my hands repairing them so I could give cheap birthday gifts, which are basically the same camera(identical autofocus module, VERY similar Sony CCD sensor) but worse in most ways.
While the power delivery boards in your camera are different, it uses the same ENEL3 batteries which are a little weirdly behaved when it comes to temperature.
My main advice is, if you get the CHA/CHR error and/or your camera has problems reading your CF memory card,
ignore the forum users from 2005 that all say it has anything to do with your cards being third party.
Nikon didn't make their own CF cards, they're just SanDisks or Lexars with a Nikon sticker (it's a good-looking sticker, but the camera really should not care, if it's a non-UDMA Type I formatted in FAT16 from a company with a real address and the pins aren't busted the card is pretty much is never the problem).

Any problems with card-reading and/or batteries is 9 times out of 10 to do with voltage-related instability in my (limited) experience. This is usually fixed by just cleaning your contacts, or reseating the battery after warming or cooling it in your hands. Unlikely this happens with your particular camera, but if it does, I just saved you from waiting a week for a new Nikon branded CF card off eBay.

Enjoy your camera!

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>>4376104
>name dropping Ken Rockwell like it's a bad thing
NGMI
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>>4376126
>REN
>KOCKWELL
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>>4376105
> don't use telephoto lenses unless you absolutely can't get closer such as wildlife or sports.
Retard doesnt know about perspective effects lol
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>>4375085
Wrong.
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>>4374242
>tech monsters for journalists and journalists only
A9III is top-tier for recording video of artsy shit
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>>4376105
>picrel
are there seriously people out there that need to be told that shining a light at 90 degrees to the model will make half their head dark?
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>>4376176
Redundancy is necessary in infographics
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>>4376124
>My main advice is, if you get the CHA/CHR error and/or your camera has problems reading your CF memory card,
I had this on a d70 i bought, but formatting the card fixed it.
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>>4376138
I was referring to the idea of "I don't need to get close I have a 200mm" they are all boring ass photos and I would gladly pay real money to never have to see another shitty concert photo from a mile away and below the artist.
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>>4376217
Even worse is "street photography" with a tele. Looks like you're a pedo or a cop on a stake out.
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>>4376223
Oh yeah street is about focal lengths and imitating past glories, not about urban surroundings and its people
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>>4376247
I look forward to you not posting photos and telling everyone how your creep shots are superior.
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>>4376268
>im not a creep i shove a 20mm f1.8 in faces and up skirts
k
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>>4376288
kill yourself retard.
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>>4376223
>NOOOO YOU CANT USE 50MM/85MM/135MM BECAUSE
>YOU CANT
Skill issue
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I have a D7000 that I used many years ago. Can anyone explain to me how the files from that thing look so good? It’s an old crop sensor, but I still find it edits better than even newer mirrorless cameras. The noise just looks like grain
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>>4376331
Because you’re an NPC and cant see through nostalgia false or otherwise just like the other 70% of millennials
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>>4376331
because its still a relatively modern camera. Almost any camera dslr from 2008 or later will still produce great images in good lighting. Where it will fall behind in is high ISO and AF tracking.
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>>4376336
I remember comparing it to a Canon 60D I had, which I’m pretty sure was a pretty direct comparison for the time and the noise, especially color noise was genuinely 10x worse on the canon.
>>4376332
I’m not nostalic for it and I’d much rather my other newer cameras be better than it.
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>>4376347
The 60D was a gimped piece of shit that tainted the x0D line until the 90D.
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>>4376319
Also kill yourself retard
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>>4376365
Skill. Issue.
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>>4376201
this was only the fix one time out of tens for me
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2222 shutter count...

$310 bucks. Including a bag a dual charger a 4gb CF card with about 100 model train photos on it and an extra battery. Gonna go shoot some fall type shit.

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>>4376201
Was this after manually deleting all the pictures on your card? This is one of the circumstances where I can force some D70/S examples to sperg out until I reformat.
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>>4376400
yes, you will need to format to FAT or FAT32 I forgot which. One wont work.
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>>4376381
>and an extra battery
With cover?
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>>4376441
>With cover?
Yep.

And that funky Vivitar lens. 35-85mm f2.8. Manual focus though. Might be more fun on something else.
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>>4376417
The 16 bit FAT is what these cameras expect, FAT32 works enough to let you to reformat to FAT16 in-camera. Not sure if that's good or bad to do.

>>4376381
Welcome to the D3 masterrace, anon, very jealous.
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>>4376381
Noice
>35-85mm f2.8
Didn't know that existed, sounds pretty good coupled with a 20-35mm f2.8
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>>4376381
Looks nice. I saw a similar deal for that, but I didn't want to have to invest in new batteries for it. So I will keep using my d700 for now.
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>>4376367
Oh yeah good looking stuff here. I really like the fat bitch shot from behind a bike wheel. Since you're not posting any timeless classics I went to find the best the world has to offer in the genre.
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Fellow Nikonchads, how do I avoid dust getting sucked into the lens? I have several externally focusing primes and zooms that just seem like pumps for dust. I don't want to clean my D3's sensor too much because I'm scared of hurting it. What do.
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>>4376750
Suck it up, anon (the dust)
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>>4376750
Keep your surroundings dust free.
Stop pumping your lens under the couch.

For real tho you're prolly never gonna see that dust on an image, dirt on your sensor is a much bigger problem (buy a lens blower and a sensor swab kit)
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>>4376750
it's really not that hard to clean your sensor. You only should do it if you notice marks that you cant remove in post, etc. I tested my cameras by shooting at a blue sky at small aperture to see. Then just use a dust blower, and if that doesnt work, buy the sensor swabs. I had to make like 3-5 passes. And after that, it was brand new.
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>>4376750
Buy the 16-35mm, 50mm G and 70-200mm and live worry free.
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Hey /p/NDG
>>4376381 here.

Got the day off. Gonna go shoot the D.

What do you think? Wide angle or tele? Or that weird soap bubble bokeh Vivitar?
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I can't stop shooting with my d200 I got recently. I expected the IQ to be digicam shit (and it can fall apart in low light), but the photos it renders are very pleasing and beautiful. I have a hard time telling it apart from my more modern cameras.
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>>4376767
Good. Enjoy it.
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DLSR bros...I'm sorry...but the mirrorless just doesn't miss focus. I like my D850 but man the Z5 just does not MISS!
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>>4376765
wideboi, get nice and close to things
is it autumn where you live? if so catch some colourful trees for us
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What's a good Nikon DSLR to try to shop for in Japan? The D850 seems overkill for a first camera
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>>4376790
The 5d mark four
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>>4376790
Not really, DSLRs are done, they’re not making new ones, why not get the last best and be done with it?
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>>4376790
The d850 still command a premium because it's the last (and best) sku. If you don't need it, then look at the d810. You can find a good condition one for $300.
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>>4376790
D850 is already outdated, might as well pick up the goat DSLR
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>>4376790
d700/d610/d750 from cheaper to more pricy
d800/d810 if you like mirror slap
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>>4376750
Buy sensor cleaning swabs
It's not like a D3 is a good/expensive camera anyways, especially noting the banding/blooming issues. Better solution would be to upgrade to a D3S
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>>4376842
>t. glossed over the spec sheet once

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>>4376824
What is the goat DSLR?
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>>4376846
the one you like the most
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>>4376847
I hate digital cameras
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>>4376846
The D5, D6, D500, D850, were the end of the lines. Depending on your use case those are the best ones to choose from.

the D6 Is a D5 with all the newer firmware stuff that the Z6, Z7, D780 and what ever other expeed 6 cameras got, plus the addition of WiFi and GPS
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>>4376846
D850, it's peak DSLR
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>>4376843
Some of us enjoy not having to shoot around a camera’s flaws namefag
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>>4376790
D800 is dirt cheap now, and 90% of a D850. Can't go wrong.
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>>4376764
I've got all of those (in addition to dust pumping devices) except the 16-35, what's that like? I've never shot that wide.
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>>4376788
Ended up side tracked most of the day. Might have time tomorrow to actually go shooting.

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>>4376906
It's a great focal length range as a general purpose zoom on APS-H.
I never used it much on full frame.
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>>4376933
Dial it back like 15%, Ken
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>>4376933
colors are great
original colors would have been good as well
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>>4376846
Pentax K1 is the undisputed best DSLR for photos, Nikon D6 or probably the latest Canon 1DX if you want a tank, the latter has the best OVF in a DSLR.
For video supposedly the Nikon D780 is the best, a Z6 in the crippled body of a D750, if you want a frankenstein hybrid the Sony a99 II has some tools not seen again in a camera until much later, it's a A7RII on a Minolta body, IBIS included like the K1.
Nikon D850 is the most balanced, high MP and D5-tier functionality but lacks some tools the D780/K1/99II have and not as robust as flagships or older models like even the D700.
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>>4377041
>Pentax K1 is the undisputed best DSLR for photos
what use is a body without lenses?
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>>4377047
I agree but if you are one of those loonies who say two lenses are enough then yeah, it can be used. It has the f2.8 zooms and a couple of decent enough primes, so there's a selection of at least 5 lenses :)
Nikon has several dozen good lenses but no body with IBIS, quite mediocre OVFs compared to film-era or Canon's and no in-body processing tools like pixel shift, focus stack into single image or film scanning although the D780 does have it due to Z6 software.

Nikon never released a D880 because no one in the system would've bought a mirrorless body, even the D6 is crippled.
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>>4371925
who knew Fujifilm was so wholesome?
really the best photography company

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>>4376842
what's better about D3S? There's an "inoperable" one I see on eBay I would love to resurrect, even if just to give to a friend. I thought it just had higher ISO settings nobody should use anyway.
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>>4377060
You buy all your shit used. You only support ebay and mbp ya virtue signaling softboy with a gambling problem.
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>>4377172
Yeah thats also how vegans and other whiners think because they’re narcissistic and overly concerned with meaningless struggles about meaningless things.
Its a western feminine thing, virtue signaling. Inept and inert. It changes nothing about the workd but it makes you feel warm and fuzzy and lets you narcissistically brag to the gurrrrrlz like the stuff almost doing princess you are.

Or you could do something real like missionary work. Converting people to traditional family values - how’s that for DEI? Who cares who made the camera, you didnt pay them, you paid klaus alhamadoob from facebook marketplace. Go volunteer for a church. Or a wodalist black metal band that hands out reindeer fur coats and elder futharks to impoverished children if thats your thing.
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>>4377172
This is a nice photo, just save some saturation for the rest of us. What is with nikon shooters and color?
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>>4377193
Idiot to english translation:
You are correct, I can not justify the purchase of a used camera based on the political leanings of the company that made it. BUT, gearfag hit a creative wall and thinks a new toy will help, so i’m going to consoom and consider applying for welfare.
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>>4377265
a shame he just sold that perfectly usable camera to gamble on dogecoin so he can shitpost with a crop medium format just as he was starting to put some practice time in

let us pray he was lying to troll
>its the guy that went through a pen f and a panasonic in a month, he probably wasnt
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>>4377265
I think it has to do with the photo looking different in Lightroom than it looks in a browser. Anybody know how to fix this issue?
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>>4377315
check to make sure you accidentally didnt export in argb
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>>4377327
I'll check when I get home. Thanks.
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>>4377274
Now was that so hard? Omitting the buzzwords and angry ranting.
Thank you.
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>>4377363
>nooo you cant speak with passion. it offends people. you called me princess and compared me to a vegan. mean.
Longhoused. White?
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>>4377327
yup you were right.
I am on a Dell XPS (decent screen) but was editing and exporting in Pro Photo RGB. changed to sRGB and now the export looks like my edit. Thanks agian

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>>4377371
well never mind.
guess there is still a problem

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>>4377373
Ok seemed to have something to do with Windows HD Color. I don't know how that works but I guess it has to be on.

Fingers crossed this one looks correct.

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Well wtf?
Opera on the Left, Firefox on the right.

Opera looks. Firefox is now de-saturated.
I was using Firefox in all the screenshots up till now.

Any things to check out?

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>>4377379
*opera looks right is what I meant to type.
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>>4377379
I also have this issue, I mainly use Firefox and the colors looks weird. No problem whatsoever when viewed with IrfanView, the results are the same as in LR, but everything goes to shit with firefox. I've tried fiddling with various color management options in about:config, no luck so far.

I have a decent Dell monitor too, calibrated and shit. I'm interested if you get any explanation.
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what think d500?
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>>4377404
For what?
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I use a D200 and a D800. This is kind of my secondary, more casual setup. My only lens between the two is a 50mm 1.8 AF-D.

What are two lenses I could get secondhand that would be good focal lengths for both - ideally one wide and one telephoto? I was thinking of the 16-35 f4 and some variant of the 70-200 or 70-300.

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>>4377379
this is fucked and would be reason enough for me to stop using FF. I'm on Chrome and the colors match Opera. Browsers should not be rendering images differently, ffs.
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>>4377423
I know right. I just did some browsing around /p/ and holy shit, the /rpt/ actually has some nice looking things in there. This while Time Firefox was fucking me over in addition to the Windows HD color/Dell/Adobe color management mismatch that I have now apparently fixed. But trouble shooting while Using Firefox was just wasting my time.

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>>4377426
looks like there are still issues
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>>4377426
What was this color management issue? I'd like to check if I also have it, I'm the other anon having the color problem with FF
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>>4377431
Export in lightroom was wrong (set to ProPhoto RGB)
Windows HD color HDR was set to off. (that somehow breaks Adobe's handling of color profiles during export.
And Firefox was ignoring everything/ maybe even substituting it's own color profile and desaturating everything.

So I still don't really know what best practices are. My Laptop screen it's self has a color profile driver from Dell and going through the calibration process I didn't have to change much It was already pretty good.

If I turn off Windows HD color then I can't see the saturation problem other people were seeing.

TDLR; I actually had 2 issues that were compounded the over saturation issue. I was doing my editing under the conditions of those problems and then when I posted them and viewed them in firefox, It's desaturation issue dialed it back to a point that still look dark and over saturated to me but I can see how (KEN ROCKWELL TM) it looks now that I'm viewing in Opera.

Why the actual fuck is this so difficult?
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https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-ecosystem-cloud-based-discussions/windows-10-hdr-mode-breaks-lightroom-desktop/td-p/11996955
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Go to about:config in firefox. search for gfx.color.
double click the one I highlighted. this fixed the desaturation issue
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ok I think I'm getting closer to getting things right.

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>>4377450

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>>4377450
>ok I think I'm getting closer to getting things right.
>the leaves are purple
anon I...
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>>4377435
>>4377439
Thank you anon. I did check the LR export setting, but it could be a multi monitor issue too as I'm always connected to my tv which is HDR-capable, while my main screen isn't.
I've never seen anyone recommending the native_srgb flag, no idea of what it does.

Some webpages can help detecting issues with color profile management
https://webkit.org/blog-files/color-gamut/
Weirdly enough I find no noticeable difference between the first two images, but they appear in the following ones.
FF's color management seems to be a clusterfuck anyway
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1488619

I also have two monitor profiles, one for the day and one for night, so I have to remember that I need to use the correct one when editing pictures. This could influence whether I make correct edits, but shouldn't cause different rendering between programs.
By the way if you know software that automatically switches monitor profiles after sunset that would be quite nice. f.lux could work but I'm not sure. I used it for a different purpose some time ago but uninstalled it, could be worth trying again.

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>>4377537
Well fug that seems to be working okay, but I guess it was also me using the wrong monitor profile in pp since >>4373885 still looks different
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>>4377422
>I was thinking of the 16-35 f4 and some variant of the 70-200 or 70-300
I'd say you're right on the money with that if you're going for zooms. The first gen 70-200 f/2.8 has some AF-S motor issues though, if you'd prefer to not roll the dice, the 70-200 f/4 or the 80-200 f/2.8 AF-D are good picks too. Or just a later gen 70-200 f/2.8.
Decent prime options are a 20 or 24mm and a 105 or 135mm
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>>4377565
I feel like I need to go for a zoom on the wide end to make the focal length work on DX and FX. I would be fine with a 20mm prime on FX, but that works out to 35mm on DX which is not particularly wide.
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>>4377565
>>4377720
Or the 180, if you fancy the size and weight, which is about equal to the 70-300.
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>>4371616
CCDs are magical.
Global shutter is better than porn, it's a shame we abandoned it.

>>4371844
>>4371845
>sooc
Sorry bub, these aren't really valid comparisons.
Well if you're shooting JPEGs maybe they are but at that point you're simply admitting that you like the software on the D200 better.

>new camera
>different JPEGs
>wow I like the old(or newer) one better!
This confuses noobs endlessly.
This is also why every phone has different looking JPEGs, they all know if they went for an accurate faithful rendering people would realize most phones perform similarly and they wouldn't be endlessly buying new ones every year to try the new camera presets.

Shoot RAW and this all mostly stops being a problem.
All that said, the D200 is an ISO100 body while the D300 is ISO200. In good lighting the D200 should be superior and provide much cleaner images. Due to it being a CCD, it probably has better colors too. Early CMOS were noisy and cross talk could hurt color purity.
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>>4378146
rolling shutter artifacts are cancer
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This lens still worth it?

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 300mm F/4D IF-ED Black
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>>4378130
>CCD's are magical
They 'aight.
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>>4378494
Yes, always. It's one of the best lenses ever made. Don't be afraid to get the older one either, you're already not getting VR.
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>>4378494
I would try to get the 300 f/4 PF instead. It’s much smaller and lighter. That being said I took a borrowed 300 f/4 AF-D to China and it was a great decision, even as relatively bulky as it was.
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>>4378529
Just my opinion, but I tried it out and it's too light and short for a 300mm so really needs that VR most of the time. Very twitchy even when just adjusting it in the hand, kind of dumb especially in low light. A bit more weight and length really lends itself to stability and control, even more so in the wind with the hood on. I have steady hands but man, a slightly heavier and longer lens makes fine motor control so much more accurate. I think Nikon missed the mark with this one by focusing too much on size and weight to make headlines.
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>>4378494
>>4378521
>>4378529
Why in the shit doesn't that have VR?
Makes no sense. The 70-200 has VR. The fucking 105 macro has VR.
In my opinion, even the 85mm should come with VR.
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>>4378553
Because it's old. They released a VR version.
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>>4378553
It's just old. Nikon's first lens with VR (80-400) came out the same year, 2000.
It was also replaced with a VR model over a decade ago.
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>>4378571
>80-400
Yeah, the one with the sluggish AF. Had that and also got the AF-S for my wife. It's one of the sharpest lenses I've ever seen.
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>>4378578
Which one's the sharper one? It's not clear from the way you wrote your post. I assume the AF-S, but if you could clarify.
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>>4379405
The AF-S. I'm not sure if we just got really lucky with our copy but I compared it to 2 samples of the 200-500 and the 80-400 was sharper through the entire range. It appears that the 200-500 is a lot cheaper for a reason, it's not just the smaller zoom range.
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>>4379405
ESL, no one to blame but yourself and lack of English comprehension
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give me some choice f-mount primes. so far i have

>50 1.4 AIS
>28 2.8 AIS
>105 2.5 AI
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>>4380299
That's a pretty healthy lineup as is. Perhaps a 180mm f/2.8 or a 200mm f/4. A 20mm f/2.8 could fit in nicely too
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>>4380299
I would do a telephoto zoom since you're covered on the shorter end.

The 70-300 VR is not too expensive. or 80-200 2.8
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>>4380310
Reading comprehension needs work
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>>4380329
he doesn't need another prime with those unless he's just collecting
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>>4380348
If anyone wanted your shit take they would have asked for it instead of the specific question presented
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>>4380386
Yet you keep commenting.
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>>4380405
Yes, and?
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The 50 1.4 AF-D might be the cheapest feeling piece of shit lens I own, down there with some M43 pancakes. I bought it because I was given an N80 and it can't meter with my manual lenses. The AF-Ds aren't all plastic junk, right? I like having an aperture ring.
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>>4380670
>The AF-Ds aren't all plastic junk, right?
Definitely not. I own the 85mm f/1.4 AF-D and the 180mm f/2.8 AF-D and they're both metal and very well-built.
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>>4380670
>The AF-Ds aren't all plastic junk, right?
Huh. My 50mm 1.4 AF is very similar to my other AF/AF-D primes. The really plasticky one is the 50 1.8. Both are perfectly ok 50's though.
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New to photography, impulse bought a used Nikon D3200 with a Nikkor 18-55 lens.
Give me some tips.
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>>4382694
Shoot in RAW+ JPG
Download NX Studio (free Nikon image editing software) and play around with the Picture Control Settings until you find something you like and change your camera settings to match
Learn exposure triangle, play with aperture and shutter speeds
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>>4374609

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Someone is selling a couple d850's for $1100 each locally. All I've ever known is Sony apsc, I'm quite satisfied with my a6700 and a6400 for video but I'm kinda itching to try ff for photography. I can't really afford ff mirrorless lenses though, but ff dslr lenses seem more doable. Should I go all in on the dslr goat or would I be happy with something even older like a d750?
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>>4382729
d850 too expensive
d750 too old
d780's just right
In your case though the price seems right. You can always acquire lenses later and since it's F mount you have decades of affordable glass to choose from.
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>>4382729
Get the D800 for 300 usd, Anon. It is 90% of a D850.
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>>4382729
Buy a K1 instead and thank me later
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>>4380670
What's your definition of cheap feeling? My 50 1.4 AF with no D isn't that plasticky. Sure it ain't no Nikkor Ai but it feels solid for what it is so maybe that's an option?

Other than that, the only hefty af-d lens i can think of is the 70-210 4-5.6 af-d which has a metal barrel if I remember right.
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>>4382696
Thank you, anon.
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>>4382816
He's probably just comparing it to AI lenses.
Some of my AF/AF-D lenses, including 50mm 1.4 AF, you can actually hear something rattling around inside it if you shake it. But this doesn't seem to affect the ability to focus.
I don't use the 50 1.4 as much as the 50 1.8 because that extra 2/3 stop of speed isn't so critical for me, and my 1.8 is an AF-D.
I dunno about other bodies but on a d750, "highlight priority" meter mode requires an AF-D or AF-S lens for reasons that I fail to understand. It won't do it with AI, AIs, AF non-D.
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>>4382729
Get the D800/e/d810 like the other anon said. More megapixels than the a7iii. Lens selection is much cheaper. If you're paying $1100, you might as well get a used sony FF so that you can share your lenses and stick to one platform.
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>>4371596
Surprisingly Lifetouch that school photography company that comes to school to take yearbook photos and uses the Nikon DX2 in quite a few branches for senior studio photography. A "prosumer camera" from 2004 with 12mp, AFC (wild), with a 24-70 kit lens is good enough to take photos in a studio with and parents buy it not noticing it was taken on something so old. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Although for their yearbook photos they use newer cameras such as the Lumix GH5 for the dual card slots and use the Leica 12-60mm lens with a one light setup.
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What's the best (ultra)wide zoom for F mount that takes a circular filter? I've been experimenting with the AFS 16-35 f4 I got off ebay and I find the image quality to be disappointing so far. I can't compromise on being able to use a circular polarizer.



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