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Canon EF is the best lens mount in existence and I regret not buying into it sooner
>a wide variety of well made and budget lenses with many unique and interesting lenses to suit any use case
>Good to excellent digital stills cameras
>top tier film cameras
>Lots of top tier video cameras
Really the only downside is that you will have to tolerate being associated with all the dickheads that shoot canon
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On Dexter, the serial killer main character shoots niggon while doing crime scene photography, and he kills a man he meets on a beach just for being a canon shooter mogging him with his BWL (Big White Lens) doing candid photography.
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>>4376408
please tell me that's actually true
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>>4376411
Season 3 Episode 3, my friend.

Dexter's a macrofag with a crazy flash rig paid for by the police precinct and he saw the telephoto chad taking a photo of his family and just couldn't take it.

>Verification not required.
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>>4376426
>with a crazy flash rig
Wasn't it just a Nikon R1C1?
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>>4376397
>Wide selection
>Niche film-era shit if you want to do fancy shit like soft-focus, or want a 17mm or 1200mm prime for whatever fucking reason
>Full compatibility with every Canon camera made in the last 40+ years incl. mirrorless cameras.
>Autofocus, IBIS, electronic controls all work
>BIG.WHITE.LENS
>Cheap as fuck, even pro-level stuff

Oh yeah, I'm thinking based
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>>4376453
They even work great on my Nikon Zf
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>>4376453
>Full compatibility with every Canon camera made in the last 40+ years
Wrong.
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>>4376465
NTA, isn't it just like the 10D and 1Ds or something that doesn't play nice with some lenses or some shit?
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>>4376474
>>4376465
All digitals work as they should with the exception of EF-S not mounting on the D30, D60 and 10D.
Those bodies and the 1Ds also have a microswitch inside the mount that generates an error code if it is engaged and the lens isn't equipped with compatible electrical contacts (all EF optics are).
The Mk III extenders won't work with film bodies aside from the last generation (1V, 3).
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I prefer Nikon lenses.
I don't like lenses that feel like stacked festival cups.
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>>4376397
Absolutely this. And with the exception of some very old 3rd party glass, they work perfectly on RF. EF/RF is the place to be.
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>>4376465
All Canon glass will work. Some older 3rd party glass doesn't play nice with newer bodies. Though strange, some new Tamron SP lenses also won't play nice with old film bodies. That and EF-S on the first crop bodies >>4376486 are the exceptions.

The Tamron SP issue is a bit of a bummer for me because I have four but on my EOS 3 only one fully works, one will let me shoot wide open, and the other two throw error codes. No issues on my digital bodies. Still, EF has the widest range of compatibility. Adapting old Minolta or Nikon AF glass on later Sony/Nikon bodies absolutely sucks.
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>>4376426
okay, I've watched part of the episode. This show is trash. The acting is bad, the writing is bad, the plot is stupid and the characters are all annoying and melodramatic. I can't believe I used to hear people talking about it constantly.
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>>4376611
>Wow so subtle and nuanced. He has difficulty in social situations just like me!
>No he's just misunderstood and he has a certain set of morals so it's perfectly fine being a psychopath
>"Surprise Motherfucker" haha lmao
It's like 5/10 at best
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>>4376617
I do really feel like the 'wow he's over analyzing social interactions because he's so calculating' is why people like it. It allows them to turn their social retardation into a literally me power fantasy where people should be afraid of you instead of you being afraid of other people
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>>4376611
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>>4376453
But I can't use the obsolete manual focus selection from the 1960s!
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>>4376678
EF flange distance is the second shortest of any DSLR system (Only OG 4/3 is shorter) meaning it's very easy to adapt other mounts to it
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>>4376502
>Adapting old Minolta glass on later Sony bodies absolutely sucks.
What makes you say that? There are some limitations with the very newest bodies like not being able to shoot at 20fps or whatever with adapted lenses, maybe missing certain video AF modes (whocares), and obviously you're dealing with screw drive instead of built in focus motors for some lenses so they won't be as fast, but other than that it's good.
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>>4376620
Doakes should have just clocked Dexter in the fuckin jaw like the CHAD he is. Or maybe not kill him off so early so there would be some kind of interesting "normalisation" of the MC over time. You know, character growth? Which Dexter never had? Yeah, it's kind of garbo.
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>>4376684
>20fps or whatever
I've always wondered why are the new cameras crippled fps wise with (((unsupported))) glass?
Is there an actual real technical reason behind this?
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>>4376695
It could be a focus speed thing, maybe they let you do full speed in single AF or MF. No point taking 20fps when half of them will be out of focus as the lens tries to keep up.
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>>4376695
>>4376707
my guess is aperture cycle speed
ever since in-body aperture control became a thing, aperture is re-set for every shutter release
sounds like a lot of extra wear but it's probably necessary for AF or something
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>>4376712
>necessary for AF
Yes, DSLRs require no narrower than f/5.6 (iirc) to AF correctly. Some bodies / lenses will even start to lose their outer AF points as you keep stopping down. If your aperture actually sat at say f/11, you'd never be able to AF without your blades cycling
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>>4376678
It's works better with Pre-AI Nikkors than Nikon does.
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>>4376714
I'm quite aware thanks
I meant why would it be necessary even if AF wasn't active between shots
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The milf brand
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>despise canon cameras
>love EF lenses
anyone else living in limbo?
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>>4376684
>What makes you say that?
With Sony you have to choose the right adapter and then lose animal butthole AF along with other features because the adapter handles AF, might as well just buy an old DSLR to use with those lenses. With Nikon some won't work at all, some partially work, the newest lenses that are all electronic can work OK.

With Canon EF they all just work, even most 3rd party just work. Worst that might happen is you lose some fps because the aperture can't keep up, but that happened on the fastest DSLRs too (not all lenses could shoot max fps on the 1DX bodies).
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>>4376714
>Yes, DSLRs require no narrower than f/5.6 (iirc) to AF correctly
Upper tier models could do f/8 in the center. Canon mirrorless still wants full aperture for AF, at least in mech shutter mode. Not sure why, although in really low light it makes sense.
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>>4376954
>Upper tier models could do f/8 in the center
Not necessarily upper tier, they just had to have a high density (45 point+) AF array.
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>>4376952
The laea5 keeps butthole autofocus with screw drive lenses

The catch is only the newest bodies fully support it, excluding the a7c, because sony only hates its customers a little less than nikon.
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>>4376952
You need either an LA-EA3 for lenses with a focus motor or an LA-EA4 with a monster adapter conversion for screw drive lenses, and both retain eye AF (animal and human) and the majority of other functions (I think you lose certain AF modes in video or some shit, but who gives a fuck about that). Or if you have one of the newest bodies then an LA-EA5.
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>>4376962
>>4376979
>5 different adapters
>need a chart to figure out what works and what doesn't
Like I said, adapting old Minolta glass and old Nikon F-mount glass sucks. Fuck, Canon added features for adapted lenses (IBIS cooperation; drop in filter adapter).
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>>4376408
Olympsissies, not like this...
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>>4376985
It's really not that complicated. If you're a consumer with one of the latest bodies then get a 5. If you have an earlier body then get the 3, the 4 if you want to use screw drive lenses. The other two adapters are irrelevant because they're crop. If you can't figure that out then finding out which old lenses are actually decent and worth getting is probably beyond you so it doesn't matter anyway.
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>>4376979
LA-EA5 isn't monster size and does screwdrive.
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>>4376989
Is that the fucking 8080? The "compact" with a 1/2.3" sensor that is as big as a d70? Oh yeah that's exactly what a psycho would use.
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>>4376995
It's the E-330 with the 50mm f/2 Macro.
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>>4376998
muhbad, looks very similar. I wasn't aware every olympus from that era looked like a retarded blob
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>>4377003
syggh
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>>4376994
True, but it only works on the A6600, A7 IV, A7R IV/V, and A1, which is unfortunate. A monster adapter converted LA-EA4 has pretty much the same functionality on older bodies (it actually has the advantage of being able to use the majority of the focus points with the 500mm f/8 mirror lens, while the 5 is centre point only).
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>>4377004
actually aesthetic as fuck
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>>4377004
That's a cool looking camera. It's so space efficient, the room on the other side of a lens is wasted and ergonomic, since you normally grip the lens, I'm not sure why basically only Pentax has figured this out
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>>4376993
>nooo it's totally simply just follow this questionnaire
I think I'll just stick with EF since Canon knows how to adapt lenses, manufacture weather sealing, AND produce gorgeous color.
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>>4377015
Ah I see, you're a simpleton. I'm surprised you actually know how to remove and mount a lens.
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>>4377083
>nooo if you don't want the challenges of sony adapters you're a simpleton
What level of cope is this?
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>>4377083
>I'd rather have a straightforward and effective solution
>"noooooo, you're a moron, you just need to follow this chart to work out which features you want to use, but you can't have them all, that's not allowed"
Christ, take the L mang. Snoyboys just cant stop getting btfo'd
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>>4377085
>>4377090
Like I said, if you find that a challenge them I am surprised you're not just using a fixed lens camera. I'm guessing you just use auto too.
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How bad is the 24-105/4 L, really?
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>>4377095
it has minor drawbacks. vignetting is noticable and ugly but correctable in software. bokeh is shit, DoF separation even at max apreture is disappointing for me. the biggest strength for hobbyist, is that it does most of the things you throw at it good enough to make you shut the fuck up about more glass and go take pictures (for cost of 2-3 okey-ish canon used primes)

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>>4377092
It's not that it's a challenge, it's that there are objectively simpler and more effective solutions to the problem. And the solution is to not shoot a snoy.
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>>4377114
Thanks anon. Is there any reason to splurge for the Mark II version of this lens?
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>>4376707
>>4376712
The problem is aperture/lens shit should be irrelevant for burst photography.
I should be able to set a focus point and burst with any fucking lens I want at max FPS, at least in a certain mode. I don't expect subject tracking to be continually tracking something when bursting at obscene FPS but having to have gimped FPS just so that it can try to do that is fucking retarded.

Just let my lens be passive and have my shutter clap away. It's not hard, but apparently too much to ask for.
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>>4377158
It IS hard to autofocus stopped down. Nikon bodies before the z8,9,f,6iii couldnt autofocus if f5.6 or over with flash enabled.

Most bodies cycle the aperture for AF. Play with the DOF preview switch on an SLR to find out why.
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>>4377163
Yes but here's the thing.
Once you're focused you no longer need to focus. So, limiting FPS based on the lens is retarded.
Also this "workaround" isn't removed in light abundant scenarios, so it literally has nothing to do with a lack of light or anything. It's just utter nonsense all around.

If they limit FPS while using active focusing between shots that's fine. Limiting FPS for pre-focused shots where you just want a "dumb" lens should be illegal.
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>>4377167
Anon if shit moves you need to refocus

I wonder if nikons engineers are as dumb as you
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>>4377168
Not everything that moves will be jumping out of the focal plane, refocusing for every shot is not always needed.
Very subject dependent.
There are many situations that benefit from pre-focused bursts where no focusing between shots is needed. Limiting the burst rate just to ensure autofocus can work is retarded. In manual focus there should never be such a limit.
You cannot give any reason why it should. None exist. Not a single thing.
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>>4377169
No one shoots bursts on static subjects. No one.

Also, viewfinding is done wide open as well which means the aperture still needs to cycle.
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>>4376397
This is true. You finally discovered the truth. Canon absolutely mogs competition, whether with EF-mount cameras or RF. Older glass works just perfectly with new mirrorless bodies and is cheap.
t. a dickhead that shoots canon
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>>4377152
idk didn't test it, online they say that difference is marginal. given the diffrence in price (in my local marketplace almost twice as much lol) I'd say grab the old one. pros keep switching to RF mount and RF narive lenses so you can get decent deals on decent condition gear
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>>4377116
If the "problem" is being able to use Minolta/Sony A mount lenses on a mirrorless body then what I've mentioned is the only solution. If that's not the "problem" that you're talking about then what I've mentioned is merely an option, one that you only get with Sony.
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>>4377092
>hurr it's so simple
Sony has a god damn chart to try and explain all the differences and help you figure out which you need based on body/lens, and when you tried to simplify it someone had to jump in and write paragraphs correcting you because "it's so simple" that you got it wrong. It's fucking retarded which brings us back to: shooting old Minolta and Sony SLR glass on E mount sucks.

>>4377116
>it's that there are objectively simpler and more effective solutions to the problem. And the solution is to not shoot a snoy.
Bingo

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>>4377387
I didn't get anything wrong. 3 is for lenses with a built in focus motor, 4 is for screw drive, 5 is an improved version that does both but only works with the newest bodies. 1 and 2 are the crop version of 3 and 4. Pretty fucking simple bud, if you can't understand that then I'm surprised you can operate a camera outside of auto mode.
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>>4377181
nayrt but you're an idiot
moving only in focal plane =/= static
it is a limited use case (mostly train & aviation fags and psychos that manually focus during burst) but it sucks it's not even an option
>>4377014
pentax cameras still have grip space on that side of the lens



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