>>4378980
tripod

>>4378980
Lol. It was their ethos not a strict rule.

this is proof that large format faggots have always been insufferable

>>4379024
Do you prefer pictorialism? It seems like the majority of images posted on pee are actually quite in line with their idea of "straight photography" or the documentation of reality.

>>4379062
I am. I get shit for my "soft" and "flawed" images all the time. The real subject of my shots is the feeling it evokes. I am rarely photographing the subject for the sake of the subject, the objects in frame are incidental and subordinate to the emotional content

>>4379066
>I get shit for my "soft" and "flawed" images all the time
Some people are gearheads and watch for technically good images despite not being very attractive, artfags look to justify the shit they produce and rarely try to get better.
You are a victim from the middle road, f/64 and pictorialism can co-exist but their genre denizens are still insufferable.
>No subject as protagonist, they are subordinate to the emotional content
So i suppose your pictures are atmospheric-heavy or stylistically strong, that is pretty valuable.

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>>4379070
>Some people are gearheads and watch for technically good images despite not being very attractive
It feels like this is most other photographers I encounter. It seems like they are obsessed with high fidelity reproduction of a scene more than anything else and as long as the photo is sharp, in focus and detailed it is a good photo.

>So i suppose your pictures are atmospheric-heavy or stylistically strong, that is pretty valuable
I'd like to think so anyway. I tend to gravitate towards atmosphere.

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>>4378980
I think you could change the shutter speed on those old cameras, not sure, mine does it all for me.

>>4379073
Not bad, but I have to ask if the green and purple noise was left intentionally?

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>>4379077
I shot it on purpose like that, yes. That is the high iso noise foveon's produce, I really like it's effect. I regret selling mine.

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>>4379073
There's atmospheric images and then there's pictures that suffer massive amounts of banding like yours. The Foveon gets AIDS after ISO400 so there's two ways about it, a tripod or B&W conversion/nasty amounts of editing to look like a glitchcore dawn landscape, or something colorful to mask the sensor getting raped.
>as long as the photo is sharp, in focus and detailed it is a good photo.
Weedingfag and pixelpeep mentality, i understand it because the former live under constant stress to get those results and the latter justify their spending with it.
A hobby photographer doesn't need either ideas but stylistically he does need a clear message as art is a medium with a language, the more concise and clear the better.

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>>4379079
>There's atmospheric images and then there's pictures that suffer massive amounts of banding like yours.
I like the banding. I think it is necessary for the image to work, it also show that the image is not black and white, which is important to me.

>>4379080
I like it, but also dislike it. Not a bad thing

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>>4379081
looking through those makes me really want to get one again, it's hard to get that same gloomy vibe out of other cameras. Maybe I need to pick one up again.

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>>4379080
>show that the image is not black and white, which is important to me
I see, at least there's something visually that can be worked although "culturally" it's hard to pull because most photographers identify it with pushing a sensor too hard.
>>4379082
>gloomy vibe out of other cameras.
Shoot at ISO 6400 at minimum, at night go for 12800 or 25600. I recall my Nikon having the same effects at those ranges. Perhaps a diffusion filter might work to get the gloomy artificial light.

>>4379084
>although "culturally" it's hard to pull because most photographers identify it with pushing a sensor too hard.
Yeah, most people don't like it and that's fine. I am in a minority.

>Shoot at ISO 6400 at minimum, at night go for 12800 or 25600
I've tried and it seems like even at high iso most other cameras wither turn to mush or look fine. I haven't tried using the K-1 at 25600, but maybe it's worth a shot.

>Perhaps a diffusion filter might work to get the gloomy artificial light.
iirc those were shot with diffusion filters on the foveon, I really think they help digital sensors a lot.

Now that winter is coming I actually have some film stocks to try and replicate the that dark brooding vibe with. I think I'm thinking of underexposing Harmon Phoenix by 2 stops then pushing it to make the grain really cook. I also have some 800t and some kodak 3200.

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>>4379089
forgot pic

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>>4379073
Kinda remind me of some of my old pics.

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These are always fun to take.

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Last. Now I'm a filthy sheet film user. There's a ton of potential for pictorialism with large format, especially when considering alternative processes that require contact printing.

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>>4379094
This one feels like the whole thing is soft and I really like the effect. There is also eerie figure in the trees and the foggy docks beyond. Very cool. I like also that the hair looks like a lightning bolt.
>>4379095
This one is a bit messy with the branches, but the lights really sell it for me. I like the way they guide me through the image.

I really like these and I appreciate the lack of cleanup, I think it is nice. What film stock was this?

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>>4379101
Thanks! All of your images are quite nice as well. They definitely capture a mood, and I always appreciate a simple image that's executed well.

I know it's pushed trix developed in hc110, but I dont remember how much I pushed it.

I have an 11x14 print of the tree/docks one and it is really nice to look at with all the grain and stuff.
The dust/hair is not intentional, but it is kinda funny that it sorta works. Dirty negatives are a major trigger for lots of people on here. I say it's just low hanging fruit to complain about!

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>"Pictorialism" is the current excuse for having scratched negatives
I hate this board so much

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>>4378980
Stop sucking the dick faggot/64, pleb. They had done NOTHING NEW. Fundamentals of photography were there since mid 19th century.

>Carleton E. Watkins, Sugar Loaf Island, Farallons, 1868-1869

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>>4379119
>>Carleton E. Watkins, Yosemite National Park, California, 1878

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>>4379121
>Carleton E. Watkins, Cape Horn near Celilo, 1867

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>>4379122
>Eadweard J. Muybridge - Valley of the Yosemite, from Rocky Ford, 1872

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>>4379124
>Eadweard J. Muybridge - Yosemite Falls, 1868

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>>4379125
>William Henry Jackson, Bridger Canyon, near Fort Ellis. Gallatin County, Montana, 1872

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>>4379126
>William Henry Jackson, Great Salt Lake City. Salt Lake County, Utah, 1869

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>>4379127
>William Henry Jackson, Keppler's Cascade, Fire Hole River, Yellowstone National Park, 1878

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>>4379130
>Timothy H. O'Sullivan, SOUTH SIDE OF INSCRIPTION ROCK, NEW MEXICO, 1873

>>4379122
absolutely love this composition, the blown sky creating negative space and the perception of infinite depth. thanks for posting anon

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>>4379131
>Timothy H. O'Sullivan, CANYON DE CHELLE, ARIZONA, 1873

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>>4379133
>Timothy O'Sullivan, White House Ruins, Canyon de Chelly National Monument, 1873

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>>4379132
No problem anon.

People need to STOP sucking the dick of faggot/64.
People need to STOP pretending like faggot/64 created photography.
People need to STOP thinking like they were the most important group.

>>4379134
I recall debating you in good faith months ago but now i realize you are just a fervent anti-f/64 gearhead.
O'Sullivan was a boss but Adams was simply better and wrote the books explaining the know-how, you can now seethe about it.

>>4379145
>wrote books
kek, that's what faggot burnt out hacks do you want to make more money.
>but Adams was simply better
kill yourself faggot/64.

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>>4379150
>No arguments
>Doesn't understand technique being theorized is high IQ
Seethe, Adams was better.

>>4379152
and what arguments do you have other saying "adams was just better".

>>Doesn't understand technique being theorized is high IQ
he was a good craftsman but a retarded artist? okay, i guess

>>4379135
Who hurt you?
Recognising the work of dedicated professional artists that have had an enduring mark on the craft isn't a problem.
It seems like they're only "the most important group" in your mind.
They were all esteemed artists in their own right, their work as a group was to espouse photography as art in its own right, as distinct from being a branch of painting, or an imitation of it.
That was actually entirely valid and constructive work at the time.
>fox news trained brainlets can't understand nuanced viewpoints, or the idea that liking one thing is not the same as hating another thing

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>Who hurt you?

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>>4379130
Good for them they were first arrivers, yet Ansel still BTFO's them hard with his composition. Nice snapshits you posted tho

>>4379180
You shill for that marketer retard because that's the only photographer you learned about in your primary school, kill yourself.

>>4379181
sure thing lil bro
Are you the same faggot who did the Curtis thread? Same lowbro energy

>>4379183
>sure thing lil bro
Go back to shitagram zoomer faggot

>>4379186
So it is you. whats your opinion on the joos?

>>4379187
Zoomers can't be saved. I am sorry for your fucked up brain.

f/64 was based and anyone who disagrees probably slurps cum in a West Memphis back alley.

>>4379188
Retard, you must be zoomer with all this projecting

>>4379200
>anyone who disagrees probably slurps cum in a West Memphis back alley.
literally me. now kill yourself illiterate pleb.

>>4379204
I am a 29 year old boomer. How's collage going?

>>4379250
Stay alive

>>4379150
Stay alive

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>>4379111
mmm, based???

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>>4379276
Nice jizz stains.

>>4379275
I am a rape victim you sick fuck. I am not a fan of life.

>>4379066
That might not be a terrible approach, but you need to beware of the feeling you want to get across being overshadowed by the feeling of strained eyes.

>>4379279
do something about it then
maybe learn to love again idiot

>>4379073
It’s like an old Nikon and last gen Panasonic mft camera had a lovebaby while drinking and smoking

>>4379082
incredible shot

>>4383330
thanks! I'm glad you like it

>>4379145
Adams would leave a child to drown in floodwaters if it made "a great shot"

>>4383646
Pure projection.

>>4379082
why the FUCK is nothing sharp in that photo?