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Hi boys. I want to ask a question about adapting M mount lenses to my X-T4 and noticed there was no /fag/ thread.
Does anyone use the Leica M to FX adaptor?
I'm also planning on using a 28mm and want the best yet most compact lense I can find.

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>>4383822
>28mm
>most compact
I'm using Voigtlander 27mm f2, it's a tiny dedicated X-mount pancake and it's doing a great job given its dimensions. Not sure how leica compares, but it could be one thing to consider if you've missed this one. Here's some random stuff taken with this lens.

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Might sound dumb, but I struggled to enjoy the way camera handles lens corrections, so I taped the connectors out, hence no f-stop report in exif. Got this lens with X-T1 that didn't support the lens at all, loved it, then switched to X-T2, then I had a period of not liking this lens very much due to tons of extra noise in corners at high ISO (aggressive vingette correction). In the end I just taped it out and called it a job well done. It's subjective, but as far as I'm concerned, disabling lens corrections was a proper improvement.

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I got my sister a used XT3 and gave her my 18-55 to learn about the camera, she now wants to shoot macro for product photography, mainly pastries.
Is the new XF30mm macro good enough for such a use case? I can get it brand new for $580, the 80mm costs twice as much brand new and $700 for used. 60mm is also available used for $450 but has 2:1 scale, which I don't know if it makes a difference or not for this kind of use case.
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>>4383822
Wait, that's actually a good landscape. Is fuji... good?
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>>4384136
I was not aware of this lens. Will check it out. Worth the £380 you think?

>>4384282
I don't have a clue what I'm doing with landscapes.

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>>4383822
the xf 27mms have probably the best quality to size ratio. if you're coming from m mount , you might not mind the long minimum focus distance

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>>4384325
>Worth the £380 you think?
I personally love it, it sits on my camera 90% the time. Sharp in the center, sharp in edges above f2, minimum focus distance is relatively low, feels good in hand, and focus ends on infinity instead of going way beyond it - so when you see something cool more than 3m away, you just slam the focus ring all the way into infinity and then you can get a good shot even at f2 (correct me if i'm wrong, but I consider it a massive win, from all of my manual lenses this is the only one that does that). And in purely subjective terms, it does nice things to colors and sharpness in my opinion, feels like it kinda pretends to be somewhat vintage despite being sharp. No nasty chromatic aberration, no extremely blurry edges, the only two optical downsides are serious coma and vignette, I don't mind vignette and I can live with coma.

All things considered, I don't even consider it overpriced. It's expensive for what it looks like at a glance, but it's the only fuji native lens I can think of that does the things this lens does, at the size it is.

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>>4384351
It is a lovely lens but it makes me angry Fuji themselves are not trying to make pancake sized F2 lenses because these bastards know it will eat into their x100 sales. There should be a 18,23,27 and 40 mm F2 auto focus pancakes for this system almost all other systems have it apart from us.
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>>4384362
I feel you on this one, I'm annoyed by fuji's disregard for compact size in general
>official pancakes are not bright
>bodies keep growing larger and larger every generation, except for the new X-M5 but this one doesn't have manual dials
>small fuji bodies don't have dual display mode that helps with manual focus, it's a basic software quirk and there's literally no reason to not include it for those who want to use it on a smaller EVF
>35mm f1.4 is famous for subjective niceness, but objectively speaking it suffers from chromatic aberrations and it's just not horribly performant for modern standards, so fuji replaced it with 33mm f1.4 that's optically perfect, but it grew up twice in length in result
>meanwhile, leica has a 35mm f1.4 lens that's full frame and it's still shorter even compared to fuji 35mm f1.4. Of course leica can provide just about anything that's physically possible given their price, but still, they prove it's doable, and I bet many would appreciate a compact bright lens even if it's less than perfect, not to mention that aps-c should shrink it down further

I fully realize that size is a limiting factor for lens optics quality, but eh, I wish they would've played the lightweight card a bit more than they do. I'd kill for an x-t30 sized camera with a dual display mode, or a for a 33mm f1.4 in 35mm f1.4 form factor, but apparently they'd rather participate in optical quality rat race at the cost of practicality.
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I'm just waiting for the XT6 announcement. I'm very curious to see what that will be like. I'd be very interested if it's pretty much the same, but with a stacked sensor.
Would be cool to run a lean and mean dual camera setup with the x100vi and XT6.
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>>4383822
bitcoin is doing well. I wonder if I keep holding to afford my 50R or if I should buy a XT4 instead? what do you think?

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>>4384370
The Dual Display really pisses me off because even my fucking XT1 can do it but not my XPRO 2 so it’s 1000% an artificial software limitation
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>>4384392
The pros don't have it because you can do the same, but better, with OVF + ERF
It's an EVF size limitation
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>>4384376
Anything less than a GFX100II is a cope camera, sensorlet.
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>>4384422
I'm sure it's a good camera, but what's the point in medium format if you don't make large prints? Medium formats seems like a very specific tool to me.
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>TOKYO, November 12, 2024 – FUJIFILM Corporation announces that it is currently in the process of developing its first-ever filmmaking camera, the “FUJIFILM GFX ETERNA” (GFX ETERNA), with plans for a release in 2025. The “GFX ETERNA” will feature a large format sensor, “GFX 102MP CMOS II HS”, which is approximately 1.7 times larger than a 35mm sensor, and the high-speed image processing engine “X-Processor 5”, enabling filmmakers to capture rich, true to life visuals and have enhanced flexibility in post-production. Both the “GFX 102MP CMOS II HS” sensor and “X-Processor 5” are the latest technologies featured in the mirrorless digital camera “FUJIFILM GFX100 II”, which delivers extraordinarily high image quality with its 102 million pixels.

>Fujifilm will showcase the “GFX ETERNA” as a reference exhibit at the comprehensive media event “InterBEE 2024”, which will be held from November 13th to 15th 2024.
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>>4384521
35mm is now officially small format
APS-C downgraded to micro four thirds
Micro four thirds downgraded to “phone/webcam”
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>>4384436
the medium format look, duh
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I think I’m addicted bros

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>>4384521
ok but when are they going to announce xpro4 with rangefinder patch and no rear display?
also, i've been thinking for a few days that long rectangle shape of film mf slrs is a form factor fuji should try for gfx rather than the thin rectangle of digital mirrorless. the space on the non-grip side of the body is wasted. and making a body thin does nothing but add heat management stress when the lenses are giant bazookas and there's a big grip adding a ton of depth anyways. i realized the other day that my little camera bag that can very awkwardly fit an xt3 with the 35/1.4 and is pushed to the limit fitting a 50R with the 50/3.5 very handily holds a bronica sq with standard normal lens. the same bag also easily fits two m bodies with pancakes i find myself quite taken with the packing-efficient shapes of this long block of medium format slr and the thin bricks of rangefinders
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>>4384771
>also, i've been thinking for a few days that long rectangle shape of film mf slrs is a form factor fuji should try for gfx rather than the thin rectangle of digital mirrorless.
hassleblyat did this and no one bought the stupid MF cube. they all went for the faux rangefinder body
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any yall niggas use a Fringer adapter? worth it? considering getting the Nikon F one but I'm such a cheap ass
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>>4384771
Efficient to pack, awful to use for anything but building corners.
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>>4384771
The box form factor is horrible unless you shoot street and building corners with your neck craned over all day. For anything more creative it becomes a hinderance fast, and then you put the grip and prism on.
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>>4383822
what film simulation is this? Looks nice
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Converted my friend to the church of Fooj :)
He's going on a long holiday soon and his old DSLR isn't up to the task + he uses some A7 for his work as videomaker for a big webshop. Borrowed him my old X-T2 with the 18-55 kitlens to test it out first and within a week he completely dove into the rabbit hole, already seems to know more menu options than I do and other tricks. Love to see it
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>>4384370
>>4384362
It's because the market in general demands beefier stuff. Small size only appeals to a small group of people while all those boomers who pre-order new stuff care about grip size and clinical sharpness
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>>4384351
>(correct me if i'm wrong, but I consider it a massive win, from all of my manual lenses this is the only one that does that).
You're not wrong at all and this is exactly why I never walk around with my LingLing manuals
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>>4385482
that's fine since building corners are the ultimate subject and only can be appropriately captured by a format larger than ff
>>4385496
you're not thinking big enough. there's no reason a mirrorless camera would be limited to the top down vf or giant clunky prism finders of the film slrs. you could have a swiveling evf, a tilting display on top or back or side...
>>4385482
i've used it for portraits with no issues
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>>4386085
The WLVF is awful if you ever want to shoot OVER something. There’s a reason basically all cameras essentially have both now. The sideways rectangle is more compatible with human hands. Ergonomically the modernized box (907x) is a shitshow. And also poorly made. I was excited, then mine didnt fucking work so i spent the 10k on a new hot tub.
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>>4385871
It's a slightly adjusted Kodachrome 64 recipe from fujix weekly I think.
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Anyone still using the X-E2? I'd like something smaller and wondering if it's long in the tooth nowadays. Does it have Classic Chrome?
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>>4386192
I have X-T1 with the same sensor and hopefully same software. It has classic chrome, but you have to use latest firmware, it gets a bit old both in UI speed and in sensor noise at high ISO, but it's not exactly a tragic situation, just don't expect a particularly amazing responsiveness. On the flipside, auto white balance sets nice, pleasant, warm tones that I like. I've been using X-T1 on AWB all the time, then I switched to X-T2 and I hated colors, for quite a long time I thought it's this meme sensor magic, finally I've realized it's just AWB being trash on x-trans 3. Still pulling X-T1 out of my drawer every now and then, it's more than enough for casual photography and if it'd have sensor mapping (to reduce nasty uneven high iso noise), I'd probably still use X-T1.

X-E2 should be the exact same thing, except EVF is smaller and there's no dual display mode.
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Am I the only one who doesn't really like classic chrome? I find Reala Ace way better, but it looks like almost everyone are using classic chrome or some variant of it
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Which 23mm to buy? Except the latest one as that's too pricey for me. I just need it as a travel lens and not too picky about weather sealing.
Are my only options the Viltrox, Fuji f2 or Fujif1.4?
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>>4386435
I had 23mm f1.4 and chromatic aberration was very painful to me, to the point where I sold the lens after some time. It was a nice lens otherwise, and it had nicest electronic focus ring I've ever felt in my life - but if I'd want another 23mm now on a budget, I'd probably go for an used 23mm f2. Even though I never had one, I know from 50mm f2 ownership that F2 trio delivers some really decent performance for what it is, so I'd expect good things from that, plus it's dirt cheap used.
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>>4386439
Were you having issues with the original 1.4 R or updated WR version?
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>>4386435
New WR version is worth it, big improvement.
f2 is on par or even better than the old f1.4 when stopped down, just worse at f2.
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>>4386443
Original R. As far as I know, all R LM WR updated ones are nearly optically perfect with no major issues in any category, it's just that they're big and so I never got to buy one.

"having issues" is pretty subjective here though, I personally hate CA, but depending on your style, tastes, and subjects, it might be different for you. Big downside was that if I remember right, chromatic aberration wasn't exactly going away even when stopped down - but other than that, it was sharp, and it had really nice colors, so I don't want to bash on it all the way through even though personally I really disliked this thing.
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>>4386448
>fuji lenses
>optically perfect
lol
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>>4386459
So true, can we see some of your shots with some optically perfect lenses?
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>>4386459
Nothing is perfect, and you know exactly what I meant. No big points of offense, no major downsides, nothing to ruin your photo just because lens didn't perform as expected and failed to correct some specific optical flaw.
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>>4386462
The great joke is, they are as flawed as the smaller lenses from sony and canon despite being nearly GM sized, and maybe marginally faster but its like f2.1 vs f2.8 in “equivalence” (nothing important then). The size and price simply dont reflect this middling performance.

The tragedy of trying to pretend aps-c is viable outside of "character" (blurry photo) gear. Fuji done goofed.
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>>4386448
The 18 f1.4, 23 f1.4 wr, 30 f2.8, and 90 f2 are the optically perfect ones of the system for me
Never once felt a need for improvement on them optically, and never once felt like I was missing out on anything compared to "better" FF glass I also use
The 33 f1.4 is close, but could be a tad sharper with less CA at f1.4
>>4386464
So when can you post some of your examples using that glass?
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>>4386466
Why do i have to waste money on garbage to say it is garbage? This is the information age. Everything is tested and the results published. Lenses are not personal things. There is no magic or wonder. They are not crafted. They are soulless objects designed by algorithms and copied en masse by machines, then 9000 bugmen test them on all the charts, cats, corners, ugly people, sunsets, and hills in the world before putting it up on ebay at -30%$ for my consideration.

Get a grip. Gear is nothing but consumer products that spill from a factory at 1/4th the rate of some toxic sludge. I will dismiss it all on test photos alone if i so please and continue waiting for my x100six preorder.
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>>4386468
apparently having the same look as a mediocre full frame lens on apsc is a big deal or something (but we bought apsc for it to be apsc not sharper full frame????)
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>>4386468
>Why do i have to waste money on garbage
You misread, I was asking for examples from the optically perfect glass you use.
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who owns the 27mm pancake and likes it?
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>>4386548
Two anons on top of the thread, apparently
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>>4386480
When did I say I used perfect lenses? They definitely exist. Its easy to find out what they look like (not like anything fuji makes desu). That’s why I don’t use them. Duh! Grow a brain moran
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>>4386548
Waited like 6mo for mine and always disappointed when using it. Optics are fine, but slower AF, f2.8 kinda sucks, not internal focusing. I just stick with the 35 f2 for small size.
Voigt 27 f2 seems great though.
>>4386551
I just assumed since you made a fuss about Fuji glass, but thank you for confirming you are just another nophoto. Unless of course you want to contribute and share some examples of that glass you like and use, that looks nothing like Fuji.
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Just upgraded from the T1 to T4 and trying out the 35f1.4 as well. I'm liking the film styles more, and I'm still being lazy about colour correcting myself. Took these shots a few days ago, appreciate any feedback. (Positive and negative)
>>4384376
I was caught between getting a H2s, T4, or maybe switching to Nikon, but in the end I just went with what seemed the best increase in features/price. It's hard not to go full gearfag though and buy the best you can afford. If it's just about that med format style then get what makes you happy. It is a hobby after all.

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>>4386579
Overlooking Lake Ashi.

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>>4386583
Last one, definitely need to stop-down more often I think. I like Fuji's bleached film for seeing Fuji.

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>>4386579
>appreciate any feedback. (Positive and negative)
I think you'd benefit greatly from avoiding clutter in your frame, or from putting more effort into leading the eye towards the subject. I won't complain about center framing because I think it's intentional and you're doing some work to make it right (like framing subject with bushes in second and third photo), but I must say, it took me quite a while to even notice the mountain in third picture, or gate in the second one. Kinda like pic related, I think it's easier without attention-grabbing cars - and then it'd be even easier without the aireal tramway, but I don't want to remove it from your photo because I bet you like it and it also makes it an extremely basic landscape of a mountain with only some minor bushes to distinct it from every other mount fuji photo.

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I also struggled to find the gate here despite having it dead in the middle, but I'm not sure what could be done to make it better. Maybe postprocessing/film simulation thingy that emphasizes of red? It's cheesy, but it helps with knowing what's where, so that's one idea.

I don't think second photo is a bad one though, I like the colors and this odd feeling of scale on those mountains. My mspaint crops and gimp edits are probably not very striking, but I'm trying to somehow visualize the idea of having less things that distract you from the subject.
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>>4386659
Funny you say that because I took a second shot without the cars or the aireal, but it looked too simple and I didn't like it. Probably could have edited it similar to what you have here, and I agree it looks better without the cars. Hakone was super busy that day.
>>4386660
I'm with you that it kind of blends, but I really like the muted colors and how it affects the mountains like you said. These are more luck than skill I think, but I was trying to get the center framing with blurred foreground because I enjoy the feeling. The blurred lantern in the first one for example. The lake one was just a spur of the moment shot that I ended up liking. I don't know why the water feels so firm(?) but I like that as well.
Thank you for the feedback.
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>finally got my x100vi as my compact daily camera
>sudden thoughts of trading it in for a Nikon zF
oh lord



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