>>4386525
Panasonic S5

Don't listen to the DSLR tards, they just want to offload their ewaste on you.

>>4386526
Thanks, I'll research about it

>>4386525
5DII
>inb4 old and shitty
Okay, 6DII
>inb4 dslrnosaur
Canon RP
>inb4 DR fags
Fine, Canon R8
>inb4 cripplehammer
Get an R6II
>inb4 poorfag
Alright, go start at the top again.

>>4386535
It doesn't need to be Canon tho.

>>4386525
>What's the cheapest full-frame camera I can get for wildlife?
D810 if you value IQ, for cheapness you can get a Canon 5D II or Nikon D610 for i lean more to the former.

>>4386526
Sad nigger take

>>4386535
>>4386537
fuck off old man

>>4386539
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T USE A PRO BODY
>IT'S NOT FAAAAAAIR, ONLY 300 BUCKAROOS AND BEATS MY CANON HARD R
>OH MAH GAAAWD ALL THE LENSES ARE JUST A CHEAP
Shave my nuts jigaboo, real pros are in this thread now

>>4386535
Ok, how about the R6 mark 1?
I'd ask about the R, but I don't wanna buy a failed prototype.

>>4386525
You would probably get better results for wildlife with an APS-C thanks to the crop factor. The most expensive part of the gear is the lenses by far anyway

>>4386544
Literally every canon is bad

Buy a nikon or sony instead

>>4386544
>how about the R6 mark 1?
Unrelated to the thread's topic

>>4386536
Correct, but I'm a canon shill with mostly canon knowledge. Not trying to suggest Canon is superior in any way (they are), but that's a decent rundown of what different price brackets get you.
>>4386539
I'm 28 cheers.
>>4386544
Definitely a good camera. A used R6 is a valid alternative to a new R8, price-wise. Less megapickles and a slightly older sensor isn't going to affect the vast majority of use cases, really. HOWEVER, it certainly isn't what I'd consider a poorfag buy. My initial list was just to spread out options and for cheap I'd stop at the RP.

My 5dmkii still takes great images, so I'd recommend that. I bought mine back when it was new and have used it all these years. Had to get the shutter changed one time after I wore it out, but it's been solid again ever since.
Yeah there's new and better stuff, but it's still just a great camera.
I know it's old, but it still blows my mind how cheap you can get it these days.

On the Nikon side from cheapest to cheaper
>d700
>d600/610
>d750
>d800/810

>>4386525
>picks the one use case where a crop sensor is probably a better option
>it HAAS TO BE A FOOL FRAME!!!1!
>obvious bait post, many such cases
>inb4 300 seething replies

>>4386535
>>4386544
>>4386649
>>4386695
like fucking clockwork, the dslr boomers trying to sell their ewaste

>>4386701
Why does everything always have to be a fight...

>>4386701
the only actual ewaste is the broken panasonic you can't do anything with when it won't fucking turn on a year from now

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i mean now we gotta know what you consider noisy because my xt2 outperformed my d700 by a long shot when it came to high iso performance

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>>4386696
A crop sensor is never better

Cheaper, but get a job pothead
Smaller, but worse, also hit the gym sissy
Better? Hell no. “A honda scooter is better than a car” lmao at what, cutting in line and getting ran over

>>4386752
>not being a sissy pothead neet
Sorry I thought this was 4chan

>>4386525
D800 is amazing and cheap now. F-mount glass is also very cheap.

>>4386752
>projection
>projection
>bizarre scooter analogy
And full frame (35mm) will never be as good as 8x10. What? You don't want to lump around a 50kg view camera set up around the forest to take snapshits of Tasmanian tigers at first light? Surely you just need to get good nigger.

>>4386785
>around a 50kg view camera set up around the forest to take snapshits of Tasmanian tigers at first light? Surely you just need to get good nigger.
this but unironically

>>4386535
>>4386525
Second this, I shoot professionally with a 5D mark 2. Good camera. Dynamic range is pretty average so if you need heaps of dynamic range or need to pull heaps of shadows, get something else. Will do fine for dynamic range if you bracket your shots, but obviously that means no moving subjects.

>>4386709
>bnw
>photoshop
Fake and gay namefag

>>4386785
You’re right. I’m not a 500 IQ 8ft nephilim chad who can shoot wildlife on 8x10. And that’s a bad thing.

But at least I’m an average white man so i can handle full frame and digital medium format

>>4386812
>at least I’m an average white man
>bragging about carrying a 2kg camera
That would be more impressive if you were a 40kg Japanese girl.

>>4386849
lets see you carrying a dual tripod monorail body with a 3000mm lens and a vacuum back big boy

>>4386859
>3000mm lens.
Would that not be the size of a T-62 turret Canon?

>>4386525
>I don't want anything smaller than full-frame because I value image quality and don't want noisy pics.
Any analog camera with adjustable manual settings.