what separates the people on /p/ and r/photography?
>>4388748You literally cannot post photos on r/photography
snoy
>>4388750one can't the other won't...
>>4388757>photography discordsNow i am puzzled, how does that even work
>>4388768There are public discords, some of them are about photography.
>>4388757>somewhat normal peoplelets not kid ourselves either
I haven’t used reddit in years, but I imagine the main difference is that you’ll get honest feedback here. Anons will tell you if you take shitty pictures. Redditors will, more than likely, sugarcoat the criticism, blow smoke up your ass, or just downvote/ignore without any meaningful discussion. As shitty as the chan is these days, at the very least you can be somewhat confident that the people posting on the slower boards are real people with real experiences and opinions and not bots. I have never used discord and I never will, that shit’s gay as fuck. Pic unrelated.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeAppleCamera ModeliPhone SE (2nd generation)Camera Software16.6.1Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaFocal Length (35mm Equiv)28 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationRight-Hand, TopHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2024:10:12 08:14:30Exposure Time1/349 secF-Numberf/1.8Exposure ProgramNormal ProgramISO Speed Rating20Lens Aperturef/1.8Brightness7.4 EVExposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length3.99 mmColor Space InformationUncalibratedImage Width4032Image Height3024Exposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandard
>>4388772your shit is gay and retarded, clean your toy dumb itoddler
>>4388754>salt waterwow that retard didn't learn anything from it lol
>>4388777Checked and kek’d. This is what I’m talking about. For the record, I actually took real pictures of this scene on a real camera, this was taken so I could show friends and family what the campsite looked like before I got the film scans. The lens was clean, that’s smoke from a fire behind me. At least I’m actually posting photos. I’m sure yours are much better though.
>>4388754This. It's that word that encapsulates it. "Snoy". /p/ has all these absolutely hysterical gear faggots spamming brand war memes that broder on nonsense and it's driven most of the actual photo posters away except for>fe2fuckerBrandfag gear faggot and awful photographer>sugarBrandfag gear faggot and awful photographerAnd the film and digishit threads, the former of which is absolutely infested by dog fuckers and the latter of which is mostly underage and trans.On reddit this shit would have been nipped in the bud before you could say cannot POS R and every involved poster would have received months long bans. In fact, that's EXACTLY why redditors drag their inferior "culture" and preferences here! They're just here because reddit banned them, and 4chan can't ban anyone with a triple digit IQ and dedication.
>>4388789>>fe2fucker>Brandfag gear faggot and awful photographer>>sugar>Brandfag gear faggot and awful photographerWell said, my chum! May I also add that sugar is a faggot tranny and fe2fucker is yet to take a non-rock-or-stick photo!
>>4388757>I can't call people a retarded niggerfaggot for even daring to have a different opinion.If you keep getting banned, maybe you are the problem.
>>4388802>make up a story>make up the characters>get mad about it>dunk on my newly astral-projected imaginary opponentIf you must know, retard, I was banned for asking why all photography women are ugly. Let me guess, you're going to tell me Micro Four Nerds is a gorgeous queen while you fantasize about sucking abandoned chippies from her cheesy rolls?
>>4388801>>4388789kinda unfair towards fe2, he actually has some pretty good photos
>>4388809He had a few ok ones and the he spent $2k on leica and embraced being a living joke. The good photo flow stopped sometime before the leica faggotry. Like he wasnt improving as a serious photographer so he just bought a toy camera and instead of giving up normally and turning into a vacation snapping boomer, actively started trying not to take good photos, as a cope. Perhaps its depression manifesting as self destructive retail therapy. Doom spending? Ive seen it in photographers before where they dump their good kit and buy micro four thirds or a leica or g9x or something as a symbolic quitting act, a shoddy cathartic change, a purchased excuse. Once they stop being as depressed they usually go back to their usual camera (or quit photography entirely). Amazing how gear fagging just kills some people. They dig their own ruts.
>>4388803>why are women in a masculine hobby (gear fagging) ugly?Because ugly women are excessively masculine and that masculinization goes down to the brain. See many svelte 11/10 wasp waisted fertility goddesses doing serious carpentry and talking about chisel steel? No only block headed babushkas. All the hot photography girls are non gearfags who may know their way around a camera but start audibly groaning when some troll like micro four nerds starts babbling about equivalence and bringing up p2p charts, starting an argument with a man or another uggo. You will also find most gearfag men are a bit ugly because its aspergers.
>>4388801>>4388789>>4388809Obvious troll is obvious but I am definitely not a brandfag I shoot Nikon, Canon and Snoy mirrorless all FF, hell I'm picking up a m4/3 Panasonic tomorrow for max conceal carry I do not brandfag
>>4388815>im not a brand fag im an EVERY brand fagbehold, king of gearthis guy is so off track his photos actually suffer because he has autistic wants to use certain gear first and comes up with the photos second. hes always fucking up because hes not familiar with any one camera. once he could only bring one camera and his favorite lens (of course, a fuckhuge ultra sharp fast prime) and thought his photography was starting to get better… and the next thing from the trailer of sugar was news of another gear acquisition. sad.
>>4388815>Listing brands owned instead of posting photos takenNot exactly a good retort even if that anon is trolling
>>4388815What do you mean troll? I like some of your ideas like the underwater shoot but you have to admit most of your photos are ass. Taste is subjective but I do appreciate fe2's photos
>>4388815>hell I'm picking up a m4/3 Panasonic tomorrowI'm curiousWhat did you take?[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakePanasonicCamera ModelDMC-GX8Camera Softwaredarktable 4.8.1Maximum Lens Aperturef/1.7Focal Length (35mm Equiv)30 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image OrientationTop, Left-HandImage Created2024:11:28 22:28:08Exposure Time1/160 secF-Numberf/1.7Exposure ProgramManualISO Speed Rating6400Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length15.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width1351Image Height1800Exposure ModeManualImage QualityUnknownWhite BalanceAutoFocus ModeUnknownSpot ModeUnknownImage StabilizerUnknownMacro ModeNormalShooting ModeManualAudioNoFlash Bias0.00 EV
>>4388819I had a continuous Sugar thread for like 4 years and was published twice in the /p/ book, sit down clown. For the record I am posting from my brand new (to me) Xeon-powered editing machine I just bought yesterday and haven't loaded or migrated any software over to yet.>>4388820Brandfagging, I know most of my photos suck I'm just trying to find my genre and I think I found it with underwater stuff. I just need to get out a little more. I did shoot a couple days ago in Ginnie Springs and got some very good stuff I still have to load all my editing stuff onto this machine.
>>4388821GF2 I just want something I can stash in my pocket that handles noise a little better than an S95
>>4388824You’re always too busy buying cameras and making sure mt. ewaste gets climbed at least once a month to take a good photoStop. Gearfagging. Get rid of it all. You have a hoarding disorder.
>>4388824>I'm a clown for pointing out your response to a gearfagging accusation was to say "actually I use all the gear"Jeez man get a clue
>>4388825nice and small
It feels like there's about 20 or less people that post on here, and at least 25% of those posters are schizo. I wonder if reddit has more posters and if they are more or less mentally ill than us.
>>4388827>>4388826>Buys D4 and 70-200 VR2 combo>Hurr sugar you're a fag>muh ewasteI'm sorry you're poor and don't have that kind of discretionary spending available, maybe if you git gud at life and go make some real money you can have nice shit like me and waste it on vacation snapshits. Faggot
>>4388824glad to hear you are going for more underwater stuff! grind that shit please, I would love to see some good ones and I know you would too
>>4388831Oh wow a d4 and 70-200 vr2 congrats on spending >d4 - $399 from e-recycling-mart>af-s 70-200 f2.8 if g ed vr ii - $432 from roberts cameraLess than a single prosumer mirrorless lens, and 1/40th of my unused credit allowance :/This is your flex sans photo?
>>4388831>im fucking rich u failures. i just blew $800!>ewaste? uh excuse me its e-REUSABLES
>>4388831Ah yes the classic >you must be poor! in response to pointing out the irony of replying to someone saying you're a brandfag by listing the brands you own. I'm sure your next response will be to accuse me of having gender dysphoria or perhaps of being from a shithole country. Or maybe you'll be too busy making your day stacks and being good at life to respond? Anyway, here's a phone snapshit I took this morning on my walk. Will you please show me the power of your massive disposable income which must certainly multiply your photographic ability?[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeGoogleCamera ModelPixel 7 ProCamera SoftwareHDR+ 1.0.540104767zdhMaximum Lens Aperturef/3.5Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaFocal Length (35mm Equiv)117 mmImage-Specific Properties:Image Width4032Image Height2268Image OrientationTop, Left-HandHorizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2024:11:29 09:48:28Exposure Time6367/1000000 secF-Numberf/3.5Exposure ProgramNormal ProgramISO Speed Rating16Lens Aperturef/3.5Brightness8.6 EVExposure Bias0 EVSubject Distance3.92 mMetering ModeCenter Weighted AverageFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length19.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBImage Width4032Image Height2268RenderingCustomExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoDigital Zoom Ratio1.0Scene Capture TypeStandardContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSubject Distance RangeDistant View
>>4388837If he has a photo on hand it is surely one of his growing mountain of gearIts up to what, 9 cameras?
>>4388835If you can find me a good condition D4 under 50k exposures for 399 I'll take back everything I said. I paid 700 for mine with 34k clicks.I actually visited Robert's in person a month ago and saw that exact lens, it's been through hell and high water and there's a reason it costs that much. I was looking for a beat up 70-200 VR1 to grab the hood collar mount from and they brought it out and I walked away from it, I did grab some film from them though. If you ever get the chance to go to Indy stop by they have a lot of cool shit inside they don't list on their ebay store. They have a battery bin, a filter bin, camera bag bin, strap bin they got some cool stuff, give them a visit.>show me the powerWhy not.[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakeNIKON CORPORATIONCamera ModelNIKON D800Camera SoftwareAdobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 8.2.1 (Windows)Photographerphot0synthesisMaximum Lens Aperturef/2.8Sensing MethodOne-Chip Color AreaColor Filter Array Pattern872Focal Length (35mm Equiv)14 mmImage-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution72 dpiVertical Resolution72 dpiImage Created2024:11:29 15:28:03Exposure Time1/800 secF-Numberf/8.0Exposure ProgramAperture PriorityISO Speed Rating800Lens Aperturef/8.0Exposure Bias0 EVMetering ModePatternLight SourceUnknownFlashNo Flash, CompulsoryFocal Length14.00 mmColor Space InformationsRGBRenderingNormalExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandardGain ControlLow Gain UpContrastNormalSaturationNormalSharpnessNormalSubject Distance RangeUnknown
>>4388839Ehy on earth would you buy a D4?A D800 is way better, at just 300 bucks
>>4388839>Uh, ACTUALLY, I spent $1300!Oh wow you matched my 35mm gm good job richie rich. Do you not understand that you are not in a position to wealth flexI’m not either. Wealth flexing begins, in its mildest degree, with fuji MF digital and taking LF film seriously (apartment cucks dont got space to spare for a full darkroom let alone the budget for 4x5 e100)
>>4388839See, if you had just posted a picture we could have avoided this entire inane exchange. Cool photo!
>>4388839You took an underwater photo with the 70-200mm?>doubt x
This is a bait thread, but I'll answer honestly. Redditors are either midwits or bad photographers, /p/ users are either the worst photographers you've ever seen, or some of the best. People here genuinely care about photogaphy, despite the immense amount of gear threads. Redditors care about getting approval for their choice of brand.I'll say that I think /p/ is the best photographic online community I've been in, as it hits the sweet spot of enough talented people, while not being filled with boomers, and not withholding criticism out of politeness.
>>4388837he's a communist trucker tripfag it's best to ignore his inane ramblings
>>4388841AF supremacy. I can't believe how ridiculous the AF is on the D4 it will find shit in a completely pitch black room, it actually tracks moving stuff unlike the 800 and it's insanely fast. Low light performance is excellent. 10 fps was nice doing hair flips in the springs a couple days ago.I own both they are both good, I like the 800 for landscapes and anything I want the extra real estate for and the D4 for sports and shit that moves.>>4388844<3>>4388842I'll be real, not trolling, I do need to take 4x5 seriously I have a decent set of kit with Nikkor and Schneider lenses and I just don't think I'm good enough for it yet
>>4388857>I can't believe how ridiculous the AF is on the D4 it will find shit in a completely pitch black room, it actually tracks moving stuff unlike the 800 and it's insanely fasThere is no meaningful difference in autofocus speed or accuracy. What makes you believe this?>Low light performance is excellent.No, it isn't. Not on the D800 or the D4. Noise is very noticeable from ISO 800 and up.>10 fps was niceSure. That is significantly faster than the D800's 4 FPS.>I want the extra real estate for and the D4 for sports and shit that movesI mean, it's fast, but at 16MP...What's even the point of an excellent lens like the 70-200mm VR2 on 16MP?Also, if you're going for speed, the modern mirrorless systems are just ridiculously incomparable. Like 200 FPS incomparable.I feel like the D4 (and D5, D6) filled a niche that simply doesn't exist anymore. There's no real reason to get one in this day and age.
>>4388824Is there a way to fin those /p/books somewhere?
>>4388859nvm I found them all a part from the 2nd
I will say from my time on discord servers and subreddits is that everyone on them are so vapid and superficial, they desperately try to fit into a clique and often gatekeep new users. Whenever I posted photos there, I'd be lucky to get any feedback, and what I did get just felt hollow. When I switched over to here, I got a lot more, and the critisms and advice I got was not only of higher value, but that is also it came from the heart. When you remove any trace of identity, people have nothing to gain or lose. Though you may get people who act completely insane or troll, you also get people who are more honest without any fear of repercussions or anyone to impress, which is why with all of its downsides, I will still post on /p/
Reddit photography is dry and sterile commercial style photography board,its just how to make money from photography. That is their goal and thats what they all stick to./p/ is the underground, just people literally photographing anything who dont care at all about the mainstream concepts of photography or marketing. If you are not solely only trying to make money or impress people, suddenly you have an entire world of things to photograph and can end up with pretty much anything. That being said, you also end up with tons of garbage here too as people dont care so just go and walk around the block and photograph any nonsense they see like the corner of a building or some rocks and leaves. I prefer /p/ since its far more creative and unexpected. I also dont care about making money from photography as I already have a job for money and photography is something I do for fun only.
>>4388858Yes is worse sports camera than alpha seven three of sony corportationOn the other hand is cheap ewaste hardened by survivorship bias, meaning it is a well made copy that has already proven it will take abuse. good for broke trucker who thinks he is spending the big bucks when shopping trip totals to 800 american dollar. sergei decide: old nikon DSLR is honorary soviet camera. da.
>>4388824>yap yap yap im so well known herewhy has no one seen you post a decent photo then?
>>4388839>spent 700>exclusively takes photos you could take with an iphone
>>4388891That's extremely based.
>>4388892It's also extremely retarded, if you're buying used gear, you're not rich.
>>4388893Yeah, he's a based retard, retard.
>>4388895Seems like an important thing to leave out. Maybe you should hang yourself.
does r/photoshits have the kind of retardation like what I unfortunately wasted the last 10 minutes reading ITT?
>>4388896The only hanging I will be doing is hanging with your mother. Im going to seduce her and post her nudes on /p/ so I can finally be a yesphoto.
>>4388893>>4388874>>4388842>>4388835>>4388831All this rich/poor yapping makes you sound like retarded Leicacucks.The price of the gear is not the main deciding factor when it comes to quality and features.That said, D4 is just a dumb choice when D800 exists, and at a cheaper price point.
>>4388934It literally doesn't matter, just buy whatever the first camera is that you find for cheap, anything past 2005 and full frame is fine. There's plenty of shit that isn't full frame that works great too, but I finder newer than 05 and full frame basically guarantees that if you can't take good stills with the system, it's your fault.
>>4388748propensity to call others niggers and faggots. not much more. oh, and critique you get here is honest.
>>4388947Having no permanent points scoring system or unique identifiers makes feedback honest. There's no repercussions for being blunt, and honestly that's the best part. As long as people aren't just being cunts for the sake of it, I'd rather hear my shit is whack and learn how to fix it. Provided the people critiquing it actually have valid input.
Made a thread about how to score vintage lenses for cheap on reddit. Instantly got accusations about scamming people, bragging, not being considerate and understanding etc. All sorts of nonsense. Made a similar thread here and almost everybody understood what I meant.
>>4388969t. flipper
>>4388972More like a collector with common sense, which on reddit is non-existent. Too me it highlighted that redditors are less willing to take risks and thinks in terms of "if it is too good to be true..", that everybody is out to scam them, bringing morality into it etc. Complete and utter idiocy. 4channers on the other hand to a larger degree seem to understand that it is possible to get lucky and that dedication pays off.
>>4388972>redditor mad at flippers for raising prices on worthless old shitLol get a job if floppy disc mavicas getting expensive is le bad
>>4389004Its because they're doing the same shit and now you're eating into THEIR profits somehow.
>>4388748You can post ang quality photo you want here. Granted you will be called shit no matter how good or bad the photo isYou cant do that on r/photography
>>4388768discords are almost never about what they claim
>>4389027Updooted, they're always full of groomer furries.
>>4388748No idea since I don't browse reddit
>>4388969>>4388988I got myself a pristine F80 for just 30 bucks last week.I'm so happy with it.Scoring good deals is satisfying.
>>4389035Good job, son. I'm proud of you.
>>4389044Thanks, dad