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This is such a damn chore to use, What's a paid alt that doesn't use cloud servers?
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>>4390569
Lightroom with GenP, it's free. Has way less features than darktable and doesn't run as well but its good for quick edits.
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>>4390569
The manufacturer’s recommended program. They’re free. They don’t work on linux, but fuck shitnux lol
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>>4390585
Even to a retard it's completely obvious that there's no beauty in complexity. There's beauty in simplicity.
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>>4390569
Capture One
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>>4390569
>i want to pay but not with my data
Yeah, good luck with that... that's not how things work anymore. There's Affinity but it isn't great for RAW editing.

Might as well just stick with FOSS, on a FOSS OS while you're at it, such as Raw Therapee on Mint. Keep it simple. There's beauty in simplicity.
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>>4390569
>easiest program to use
>/p/: it's so hecking hard
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>>4390569
Dxo
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>>4390575
This
Nikon's CaptureNX is awesome.
Sony's whatever it's called is decent.
Noy sure about modern Canon software but the older versions kinda sucked when I used them 10 years ago.
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Darktable became easy and not hard when I:
- Added a style that disables filmic and enables sigmoid with contrast set to 2.0, as well as some other modules (color balance rgb standard preset, chromatic aberrations, lens corrections, diffuse and sharpen antialiasing preset)
- Completely reorganize the quick access panel to only have a few settings: monochrome (I mostly shoot in color but I check exposure with this), sigmoid (contrast, skew, target black sliders), color balance rgb (global vibrance and saturation sliders), exposure. I also have crop and rotate/perspective but only have these here so I can click the "go to the full version" button.
My workflow is:
- Apply the preset to everything
- Go into darktable, enable monochrome and mess with exposure, sigmoid contrast and skew sliders until it looks right. On a rare basis I'll go into tone equalizer to adjust shadows and highlights.
- Disable monochrome, adjust colors if needed (usually not necessary beyond saturation/vibrance tweaks). If there's a cast I'll correct in color calibration but my camera produces decent WB so it's generally not an issue.
- At this point I'll pixel peep: maybe apply another diffuse and sharpen (denoise if needed), tweak chromatic aberrations settings. Depends on the photo
Done. Sigmoid is way more ergonomic than filmic and I like my results a lot better with it.

I spend more time taking each shot than editing it. If that weren't the case and I was snapping a lot I'd get a camera with good jpeg settings. I just don't need to optimize this part of my workflow beyond 2 minutes or so per photo.
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>>4390625
>Noy sure about modern Canon software but the older versions kinda sucked when I used them 10 years ago.
I had to ditch it for DXO because of how laggy and clunky it felt. Sure one can use it, but it gets tiresome to wait for any small change you make because it doesn't know how to take advantage of the GPU. Seems like it is just badly coded.
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>>4390625
>Nikon's CaptureNX is awesome
Works great in Linux too.
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>>4390624
I second Photolab but it needs to connect to their servers every time you need a camera/lens profile
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>>4390635
NX Studio is the same otherwise I’d use it more often instead of the odd photo here and there. Has nice results though.
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>>4390569
What are you finding difficult about it, specifically? I've never had a problem with Darktable.

>>4390575
>fuck shitnux
Said the retard who isn't computer-literate enough to click buttons in a different layout than what he's used to.
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>>4390664
Everything is a chore to learn, even masking is unintuative. Not to mention it loads every change so slowley. Currently using rawtherapee and it seems to do better bring back colours
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>>4390592
looks like shit
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>>4390569
Affinity but it's painfully slow for workflow. may as well learn gimp.
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>>4390592
https://gofile.io/d/94qTxo
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>>4390664
Its so sad how every single computer nerd gearfag is the neckbeard stereotype without fail. Not particularly smart, not accomplished, and probably an incel, just a huge ego. They’ve been like this since the beginning of computers.
>not smart enuff to plug in new RAM bro? im very smart -sent from my moms basement
>im a genius i pirated photoshop you paypigs are just too stupid to do this
>lmao using a STOCK canon 5diii? i installed chdk bro im actually smart enough to unlike you, pleb, you cant figure this shit out which is the real reason you havent opted for the superior option. i bet you even bought your lenses new because you’re too dumb to win at ebay.
>using CAPTURE LIGHTROOM? what, too stupid to use darktable? are you fucking illiterate? you norm DRONES are so inferior to us wizards. oooh ai masking, you are sending your data to globohomo and you are a cuck slave to proprietary devs. i looked at my sourcecode. and you are too stupid to know what i just said.
>now my photos of anime dolls will be free from the jews
>wtf where is my boyfriend free girlfriend (male) (anime) (anthro fox) >:(
-every. nerd. ever.

>>4390626
This is the sad reality of using nerd software. Imagine having to trudge through this op ed columns worth of bullshit just to get to the point you’re already at when you open Nikon’s NX studio. Absolutely incompetent software.

Anyone who fancies themselves more intelligent for spending time on shit so trite and meaningless is the worst kind of idiot. is not a skill that requires intelligence. Just wasted free time and a wiki.

NX studio, canon DPP, silkypix, and imaging edge cost zero dollars and fulfill the purpose of shooting raw the same as any program with less work and just as much meaningful creative control. You only need paid software if you need automatic masking and better noise reduction. You only need nerd software if you’re alone in a basement on a friday night and you’re doing nofap.
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>>4390736
inb4 a nerd gets mad because the 5diii runs ml not chdk
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>>4390592
>e900
based heron schizo

pic looks pretty good
blur at the bottom if you peep though
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>>4390626
>Added a style that disables filmic and enables sigmoid
There is a global setting for starting with sigmoid, filmic or base curve
Also rather than having a style you apply manually it would probably speed up your workflow if you re-made it as per-module presets set to auto-apply (which happens when you open the neg in the darkroom for the first time or reset the history)

Personally I set it up to be as close as possible to the standard sooc jpg, this takes just the default filmic setting, color balance with global sat turned up some more from the vibrant preset, and slightly tweaking exposure from the auto mode starting point in 99% of cases. It also automatically applies noise and lens correction.
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>>4390736
>mom's basement
Are you a journalist from 2011?
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>>4390759
>darktable users reading the full dnd manual and lore while rearranging ui panels just to get close to sooc jpeg
>open up nx studio/dpp/sony ie
>its literally the sooc jpeg but with more sophisticated live adjustments
lol
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>>4390786
Nah, NX studio kinda sucks dick. It only has very basic options.
One thing darktable does really well is value adjustment, offering the standard linear adjustment, very fine adjustment (picrel), and write in value.
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>>4390792
oh how the rtfmers have fallen
https://nikonimglib.com/nxstdo/onlinehelp/en/the_levels_and_tone_curves_tool_29.html
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>>4390805
Are you retarded? Can you not read?
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>>4390806
shutup shitwizard nobody likes you
i take that back that's pretty cool
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real pros don't have this problem as they only shoot jpeg and deliver in exchange of a fat paycheck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tH_DwpZvKY
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>>4390736
The fact that you think darktable is some kind of wizard shit says pretty much everything we need to know. You're doing a lot of projecting over some shit that's really trivial.
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>noooo i imported a picture to darktable and I looks flat i cant be expected to incrrase the saturation and exposure this is unusable!!!
just shoot jpeg
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kek I bet OP is the same guy from this >>4390006 thread
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>>4390875
I'm >>4390792 but I'm going to readily admit that most of the couple dozen ways you can set up dt are retarded, including the default ones and many of the nice things are not obvious or easy to figure out. And it's not always just a question of changing the right slider, some setups are just bad and you won't be able to fix some things by fucking with sliders.
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>>4390816
He didnt say it was wizard shit

He was making fun of you for acting like only a wizard could untie the tangled shoelaces of a kid with downs because thats what setting up darktable is. The useless aspie dev doesnt know shit about photos, just math, so he shoves every equation (tool) in and insists you sort the tangled mess for him. It does not take any intelligence to do this, just misplaced patience.

>>4390875
>compile usable color science from source
>i am very smart for wasting time -every computer nerd ever. real iq 98, claimed iq 130 cuz i installed gentoo (following the wiki)
So many cases. Many, many cases. Also see: android home screen customization geeks.
>what not smart enough to get these cool hackerman themes? lol itoddlers, phones for dumb people t. mcdonalds employee
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>>4390806
Are you? Do you not understand what you are doing here? That the silly sloped lines are just a decoration? This is literally just a worse curves tool locked to the luminance channel you actual tard. There’s a reason capture one has colors+luminance curves not this.
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>>4390923
Worse. Its actually an unholy combination of a shitty sharpening method with the curves tool.

No one asked for it, it’s not missed by anyone, and offers no new functionality that cant be achieved elsewhere, but the aspie programmer thought it would be a fun programming challenge.
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Hey guys, I heard you had some problems.
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>>4390569
dark table is literally just sliders i dong understand how that would he hard to use
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>>4390929
>raw pee
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>>4390922
>can't even install darktable
that bad huh? yeah stick to taking pictures with your iPad
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>>4391064
nerd npc program on repeat
>well i bet you couldnt do (menial, time wasting computer/gaming task)!
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I have never seen an actual good edit, or a good photo, from these “super smart computer wizards” that possess the immense intellect required to spend an hour following a how to set up darktable tutorial so I’m going to just assume either they dont exist, darktable is not capable of producing good colors or landing on good noise reduction settings in a reasonable amount of time, or they do exist and darktable could theoretically work fine but anyone so inclined to waste that much time on an editor is a terrible photographer and even worse at editing.
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>>4390981
>Darktable? No thanks, I'd
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>>4391068
kek



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