>>4399278
According to snoyfags you should be able to casually carry a gigantic tele lens that weighs a few kilos and hold and shoot it with only 2 fingers without any problems (if you have problems with this you should see a doctor)

>>4399278
This is where micro four turds comes into its own. My trannysonic G9 and Leica 100-400mm have the same reach as a massive 800mm lens on a full frame, while being compact and light enough to walk around with and shoot handheld all day.

>>4399278
You’re being a wimp. Attach the strap to the lens so it points down.

>>4399286
>noticeably worse pictures
>muh grams
Wiiiimp. mft should stick to being camcorders.

File: 4x5.jpg (32 KB, 474x375)

32 KB JPG

>>4399278

quit being a Nancy Boy and get the telephoto lens, swear every time one of you leftoid limp-wristed fags comes on here complaining about weight never held a man-rated camera in their lives.

grow some balls and suffer for your art

>>4399286

This guy gets a pass, only if he posts photos taken with it and they make foolframe elitists seethe

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:

Image-Specific Properties:

File: PANA0887.jpg (3.21 MB, 4336x5776)

3.21 MB JPG

>>4399278
>size, weight and of course price
telephoto is m43's biggest selling point imo

>>4399286
have the same setup with g9ii, never use a tripod

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment Make	Panasonic
Camera Model	DC-G9M2
Camera Software	Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 13.3 (Windows)
Photographer	JACK CORY
Maximum Lens Aperture	f/6.3
Sensing Method	One-Chip Color Area
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)	800 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution	240 dpi
Vertical Resolution	240 dpi
Image Created	2024:10:03 17:55:50
Exposure Time	1/250 sec
F-Number	f/6.3
Exposure Program	Manual
ISO Speed Rating	3200
Lens Aperture	f/6.3
Exposure Bias	0 EV
Metering Mode	Pattern
Light Source	Unknown
Flash	No Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length	400.00 mm
Color Space Information	sRGB
Rendering	Normal
Exposure Mode	Manual
White Balance	Auto
Scene Capture Type	Standard
Gain Control	High Gain Up
Contrast	Normal
Saturation	Normal
Sharpness	Normal

File: 2024-10-31T14-29-40-Z8N_4237.jpg (1.04 MB, 3400x2267)

1.04 MB JPG

>>4399278
the 180-600 really is well balanced with good ergonomics and internal zoom, but it's undeniably heavy compared to APS-C equivalents

if Fuji could just get their act together and provide R5 level AF, I'd go back to the XF 100-400 in a heartbeat... I've also been totally underwhelmed with the stab on the Z8 desu

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment Make	NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model	NIKON Z 8
Camera Software	Capture One Macintosh
Sensing Method	One-Chip Color Area
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)	600 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution	300 dpi
Vertical Resolution	300 dpi
Exposure Time	1/1000 sec
F-Number	f/6.3
Exposure Program	Manual
ISO Speed Rating	900
Lens Aperture	f/6.3
Exposure Bias	1 EV
Metering Mode	Pattern
Light Source	Unknown
Flash	No Flash
Focal Length	600.00 mm
Image Width	3400
Image Height	2267
Rendering	Custom
Exposure Mode	Manual
White Balance	Auto
Scene Capture Type	Standard
Gain Control	Low Gain Up
Contrast	Normal
Saturation	Normal
Sharpness	Normal
Subject Distance Range	Unknown

>>4399310
>biggest selling point
All you've sold me on is fullframe with that noise and lack of detail.

>>4399366
>lack of detail
no, anon achieved critical focus
the lighting is just flat dummy so there's no much pop
they were in a fucking forest though shooting an owl so no wonder it might be difficult to get perfect light

>>4399367
Its lacking detail. Looks like diffraction smearing.

>>4399367
>no
Blind retard lmfao there's also motion blur
Imagine paying over $3k and that's your photo quality hahahaha. No wonder some anons always compare mft to cellphone quality.
D500 + 200-500 would easily btfo this for half the cost. Hell could get a z7 used and 180-600 for less. You truly have to be a limp-wristed and blind to go mft + 100-400.

>>4399375
>d500
Hey, lets not go that far. D750 at least.

M43 is just camcorders. Flagship snoy video codecs at 1/2 quality.

>>4399377
>g9ii is comparable to d750
said no one except (You) ever kek

>>4399380
>24mp vs 25mp
>meh ovf af vs meh * detect af
>superior camera vs superior camcorder

>>4399383
>meh ovf af
oh you're a pseudo benchracer

>>4399384
The d750 has AF in the OVF.
it’s about as "meh” for hit rate as the g9iis autofocus, meaning shooting bursts and culling later is the only way af-c will ever work on something moving
This is just a fact

Micro four thirds has finally caught up with the usability of a dslr from 2013, but optics and sensor size remain crippling to people who appreciate rendering (maybe mtf chart and computer measured edge sharpness vignette falloff wankers prefer m43)

>>4399385
still benchracing I see

>>4399386
I bought and returned a g9ii. Its not better for anything but video codec wank than a d750 at all. The photos were so gross i deleted them. It felt like paying $2000 for an em1ii.

>>4399387
based mft-returner

File: DSF1092-crop.jpg (1.85 MB, 2360x1573)

1.85 MB JPG

I'm genuinely curious as to your reference point, could you post an example pic that's sharp 'enough'

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment Make	FUJIFILM
Camera Model	X-T3
Camera Software	Capture One 22 Windows
Maximum Lens Aperture	f/2.0
Sensing Method	One-Chip Color Area
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)	135 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution	300 dpi
Vertical Resolution	300 dpi
Exposure Time	1/60 sec
F-Number	f/2.0
Exposure Program	Manual
ISO Speed Rating	640
Lens Aperture	f/2.0
Brightness	-7/100 EV
Exposure Bias	0 EV
Metering Mode	Pattern
Light Source	Unknown
Flash	No Flash
Focal Length	90.00 mm
Image Width	2360
Image Height	1573
Rendering	Normal
Exposure Mode	Manual
White Balance	Auto
Scene Capture Type	Standard
Sharpness	Normal
Subject Distance Range	Unknown

>>4399394
>sharp 'enough'
No such thing. There are only sharp photos and unsharp photos. Either you have it (eyes) or you don't.

File: grimace.jpg (177 KB, 1920x1080)

177 KB JPG

>>4399395
well there must be some criteria for the dichotomy, so just post a sharp photo then

>>4399396
Why don't you post a photo of what you think is "sharp" since you seem greatly puzzled by the subject.

>>4399278
The Nikkor pf lenses aren't that heavy, but they're kinda pricey. Honestly just get a monopod and the wimberly monogimbal thingy. There's monopods that collapse to the ground too, useful for wildlife. Even a 600mm f/4 isn't a lot to carry around on your back, it's just unwieldy to use. I don't pixel peep or print big so I'm happy with my mft gear which is all easy to handhold.
For Nikon Z the go-to is the 180-600. But keep in mind also that your Z7ii is not good for action or wildlife. Consider a Z8 if you're serious about wildlife. Shit's expensive though.

>but carrying one around sounds like a huge pain in the ass

It fucking is. 200-500 + Tele on a D850 weighs a ton, and then if you add other lenses to the set, you start to feel like you're piggy backing a midget with heavy shopping.

>>4399416
limp-wristed tripfag spotted

>>4399418
Come back when you own one, shorty.

>>4399416
nice arthritis

did you realize you like your camera more if its fit to a cane yet, gramps?

>>4399426
I said come back when you can afford a lens. Whats the matter, your ears full of your daddies spunk?

>>4399422
>7lbs is HEAVY
>come back wen u own 1
lmfao you are a sissy

File: nappy.jpg (60 KB, 1314x552)

60 KB JPG

>>4399433
Ah sorry still cant see your camera or lenses anywhere...

I'll be using mine with these weak sissy wrists while you... aren't I guess? aww.
Don't feed the trolls I know, I know.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Image-Specific Properties:
Image Orientation	Top, Left-Hand

>>4399437
7 lbs is 7 lbs twink

File: Brown Squirrel 2.jpg (4.45 MB, 3027x4541)

4.45 MB JPG

>>4399404
>But keep in mind also that your Z7ii is not good for action or wildlife.

I know. This is my first serious Camera, previous ones being a D3200 and some 4x Olympus back in 2004. I got it because it's light and small, but still has the Z8-Z9 sensor. I knew the downsides, but since I just got back into it the past year I'm still learning so there is room for improvement or me to get something better later on. I've got some great wildlife shots with my MC 105 and Zii already just by practicing.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment Make	NIKON CORPORATION
Camera Model	NIKON Z 7_2
Camera Software	Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 13.5.1 (Windows)
Sensing Method	One-Chip Color Area
Color Filter Array Pattern	890
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)	105 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Horizontal Resolution	240 dpi
Vertical Resolution	240 dpi
Image Created	2024:09:07 09:54:06
Exposure Time	1/125 sec
F-Number	f/3.0
Exposure Program	Aperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating	500
Lens Aperture	f/3.0
Exposure Bias	0 EV
Metering Mode	Pattern
Light Source	Unknown
Flash	No Flash
Focal Length	105.00 mm
Color Space Information	sRGB
Rendering	Custom
Exposure Mode	Auto
White Balance	Auto
Scene Capture Type	Standard
Gain Control	None
Contrast	Normal
Saturation	Normal
Sharpness	Hard
Subject Distance Range	Unknown

>>4399530
Nice douglas squirrel. A sharp prime like that macro lens with a high MP would give you lots of croppability, but definitely look into getting a real supertele if you enjoy this. Nothing wrong with using that body for wildlife, it's just not what it's made for. It's still better than anything anyone had 20 years ago.

Just rent one OP and see how you like it. Rent a couple with different weights to see how they feel. Long lenses are annoying regardless of weight, doubly so ones that extend when zooming. Or just buy one and return it if you don't like how it feels.

File: _DSC5991.jpg (667 KB, 1949x2118)

667 KB JPG

>superteles are too big and heavy
Sounds like a you problem

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment Make	SONY
Camera Model	DSC-RX100M4
Camera Software	DSC-RX100M4 v2.00
Maximum Lens Aperture	f/2.8
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)	45 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image Orientation	Top, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution	350 dpi
Vertical Resolution	350 dpi
Image Created	2024:06:11 20:53:29
White Point Chromaticity	0.3
Exposure Time	1/50 sec
F-Number	f/2.8
Exposure Program	Aperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating	5000
Brightness	-1.3 EV
Exposure Bias	0 EV
Metering Mode	Pattern
Light Source	Unknown
Flash	No Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length	16.39 mm
Color Space Information	Uncalibrated
Image Width	1949
Image Height	2118
Rendering	Normal
Exposure Mode	Auto
White Balance	Auto
Scene Capture Type	Standard
Contrast	Normal
Saturation	Normal
Sharpness	Normal

>>4399530
what lenses do you have for the d3200?

>>4399387
>i bought this camera i hate and returned it
>no i wont post any photos i took on it cause they were all so bad i deleted them
least obvious larper, do you even own a telephoto lens?

>>4399561
Is that an AF mirror lens? Got any pics taken with it? I genuinely have never seen a mirror lens pic that didn't look dogshit.

File: 53986276118_8a5a96b4f5_o.jpg (4.47 MB, 2880x3840)

4.47 MB JPG

>>4399397

>>4399598
>sony colors

>>4399644
try again

>>4399644
There's no vignette so it's not Sony. The colours are either gross cus it's Nikon or poorly edited Canon/Lumix.

>>4399567
The shitty kit lens. 24-70 5.6 or something like that. It’s packed away so I can’t check.

>>4399647
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ricopfirstinger/53986276118/in/pool-fujifilm-gfx100ii/

>>4399649
Huh, I was thinking there's no way that's even full frame let alone 645. I guess xtrans MF really is equivalent to CMOS apsc

>>4399598
I too think that is sharp without being overly sharpened.

File: 53211697589_7b853bbab8_o.jpg (3.91 MB, 8104x5403)

3.91 MB JPG

>>4399652
idk I think its pretty sharp

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment Make	Hasselblad
Camera Model	X2D 100C
Camera Software	Adobe Photoshop Lightroom Classic 12.5 (Macintosh)
Maximum Lens Aperture	f/4.0
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)	16 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image Orientation	Top, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution	240 dpi
Vertical Resolution	240 dpi
Image Created	2023:09:23 14:27:03
Exposure Time	1/180 sec
F-Number	f/4.8
Exposure Program	Aperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating	64
Lens Aperture	f/4.8
Exposure Bias	1 EV
Subject Distance	655.35 m
Metering Mode	Center Weighted Average
Flash	No Flash
Focal Length	21.00 mm
Color Space Information	sRGB
Image Width	8104
Image Height	5403
Scene Capture Type	Standard
Unique Image ID	000000000000585401408A46000002A7

>>4399647
I actually did think it was sony. The rendering looks a lot like an a7rv and it has the same yellow greens. Sony lenses also dont vignette much, less than canon more than nikon, so its easily erased in post. Vignetting being an issue is a very filmfag mindset. Its only a slight issue on 3 stop vignette lenses like the nikon 26mm f2.8 and canon 50mm f1.2 when shooting wide open at high ISOs or trying to recovery landscape DR wide open for some reason.

File: _DSC9766.jpg (1.44 MB, 6480x2160)

1.44 MB JPG

>>4399597
Yep, the only AF full frame mirror lens (Minolta also made one for a crop film format). That's the reason I got it, as a "collector's piece", rather than to use. I've only taken a a few photos to test it, here's a comparison with the Sigma on the right also at 500mm and f/8. It's not as bad as I was expecting it to be and could actually be usable.

[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]

Camera-Specific Properties:
Equipment Make	SONY
Camera Model	ILCE-7RM3
Camera Software	ILCE-7RM3 v3.10
Maximum Lens Aperture	f/8.0
Focal Length (35mm Equiv)	496 mm
Image-Specific Properties:
Image Orientation	Top, Left-Hand
Horizontal Resolution	350 dpi
Vertical Resolution	350 dpi
Image Created	2024:06:15 15:18:08
White Point Chromaticity	0.3
Exposure Time	1/500 sec
F-Number	f/8.0
Exposure Program	Aperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating	1250
Brightness	6.5 EV
Exposure Bias	0 EV
Metering Mode	Pattern
Light Source	Unknown
Flash	No Flash, Compulsory
Focal Length	496.00 mm
Color Space Information	Uncalibrated
Image Width	6480
Image Height	2160
Rendering	Normal
Exposure Mode	Auto
White Balance	Auto
Scene Capture Type	Standard
Contrast	Normal
Saturation	Normal
Sharpness	Normal

File: closeup bird.jpg (1.11 MB, 2232x1464)

1.11 MB JPG

>>4399561
>>4399696
neat, I have the manual focus version of this that I use on my 200/201.

File: daylamp.jpg (4.89 MB, 5000x3345)

4.89 MB JPG

>>4399779
it can produce some reasonable images imo, even handheld. I also use it with a 2x teleconverter quite often.

>>4399663
Sony vignettes more than EF, FD, FL, or RF, so not sure where you heard this but it's wrong.

File: bam.jpg (31 KB, 501x372)

31 KB JPG

>me trying to organize my camera bag so I can easily grab my camera with a Z 70-200 mounted